A collection of QuadraSynth-related messages from CompuServe (MIDI/MUSIC FORUM)

#: 439449 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
11-Aug-95  14:23:11
Sb: #Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337
To: All

Would I be right in thinking that in a quadrasynth mix,each sound MUST
be set to a separate midi channel and there is no way of using splits
and layers on say for instance channel 1? I' ve tried the freeware
Quadrasynth editor but no go.

Would anyone know Alesis's web page( not the quadrasynth home page - been
there etc.

TIA

Peter 

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#: 439497 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
11-Aug-95  20:38:45
Sb: #439449-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337 (X)

You are right, each sound must be set to different channels. But don't
forget that each sound can use up to four voices, so you can edit the
sound to your liking, split, layer,etc. then use it in your mix.

There is no Alesis Web page, you can email them though,
ALECORP@Alesis1.usa.com

Les

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#: 440301 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
17-Aug-95  02:33:47
Sb: #439497-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Hi,

Although it's only really information about their products, there is
an Alesis WWW page.  The address is:

http://mozart.mw3.com:80/alesis/

I found this on a list of links called Synth Zone, which is well worth
looking at.  The address for that is:  http://www.rain.org/~nigelsp/

Check it out,

Jon.

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#: 440403 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
17-Aug-95  17:53:46
Sb: #440301-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

Thanks, Jon, I will check it out.

I've heard something about the SoundBridge software will be released
for Windows, so finally I'll be able to add my own samples to my QS
library. Also, there will be a new version of QuadraSynth out in
october, called QS6. Price under $1000.

Les

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#: 440811 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Aug-95  07:39:12
Sb: #440403-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les

What are the differences between the new QS and the current one?  How
does the soundbridge software work?

Jon.

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#: 440856 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Aug-95  13:16:38
Sb: #440811-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

Here are some of the new features of the QuadraSynth Plus Piano:

It has 5 banks (instead of 2 on the original QS) and now you can switch banks
via MIDI. (Controller 0), and it gives you access to 640 sounds and 500 mixes.
With an optional 8 MB card you'll get 1664 sounds and 1300 mixes.

The 16 MB ROM now increased to 24 MB with the new Piano samples.

The four Quad-knobs can be assigned to real time controls, and they can send
and receive controller messages via MIDI.

They organized the sounds into groups, and you can compare different versions
easily.

One of the five banks is "real GM".

It can transmit and receive volume and pan control messages.

New samples and effects added.

You can add your own samples using the free SoundBridge software.
(Unfortunately it's for MAC, so I couldn't figure out how it works,
the manual is on the disk) Hope Alesis will release the PC version
soon. I understand, that SoundBridge can transfer AIFF, SDII and
Sample Cell samples to a PCMCIA Sound Card, which can be inserted into
the QS Plus.

Les

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#: 441447 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
24-Aug-95  06:48:02
Sb: #440856-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

I don't suppose a upgrade for the original Quardrasynth is possible?.
Do you know any places where I might be able to get hold of more QS patches,
I have downloaded the ones in this forum.

Jon.

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#: 441577 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
25-Aug-95  00:14:23
Sb: #441447-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

You can upgrade your original QuadraSynth to QuadraSynth Plus Piano
for $299. Call Alesis for the nearest authorized service center.
(1-800-5ALESIS) The upgrade will give you more memory, more samples,
drums and effects, and you'll get 5 banks stuffed with great sounds
(640 of them) so your new-patch problems will be over. I don't know
any more available patches, I uploaded them all to the Library. If
after the upgrade you still want more patches, you can buy the Alesis
ROM cards. They come in different flavors, like Pop/Rock, Orchestral,
Ethnic, Techno, etc.

Les

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#: 441602 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
25-Aug-95  07:15:00
Sb: #441577-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Seems silly, upgrading the old QS to the QS+piano is cheaper than buying the
QS+piano in the first place!.

I live in the UK but I'll be able to contact Sound Technology  (Alesis's UK
distributor) to get info on where I can get my QS upgraded.


I was looking a getting the Dance PCMCIA expansion when it is released,  do
you think I'd be better off getting the upgrade instead as I can't afford both
at the moment?

TIA

Jon.

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#: 441693 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
25-Aug-95  20:17:58
Sb: #441602-Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

Get the upgrade first, it's like getting a new synth...You'll be amazed.
I'm just checking out my new Pop/Rock card, it's really great, but a
card gives you only 1 bank of sounds(128) the upgrade on the other
hand comes with 5 banks, and lots of useful improvements.

Les

#: 441733 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
26-Aug-95  05:16:44
Sb: #441447-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: JOHN FISHER 76654,1761
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

Can you if possible tell me how and what patches you retrieved as I bought the
QS + Piano and would be interested in retrieving more sounds. The synth you
have - did it come with Sound Bridge? (An apple creation for Alesis.) Do you
load patches on your HD or a Ram card?
Thank you in advance
John Fisher
Washington D.C.

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#: 441835 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
26-Aug-95  23:40:53
Sb: #441733-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: JOHN FISHER 76654,1761 (X)

Hi John,

If you're looking for QuadraSynth patches, I uploaded 8 banks of
patches to the Library, you can find them in section 9 (Patches
/samples). They are in sysex format, you need a sequencer (like
Cakewalk) or a sysex editor to dump them from your computer to the
keyboard. From the keyboard you can save them to a RAM card if you
want. (I assume your QS+ is connected to your PC via MIDI)

The SoundBridge software comes with the QS+ free, soon it will be
available for PC. In order to take advantage of this feature, you have
to get a PCMCIA flash card. You can download samples in AIFF or
Samplecell format from the Internet, WWW and AOL, and using
SoundBridge convert them to QS+ format.

If you have any questions, just email me,

Les

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#: 441848 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
27-Aug-95  02:07:36
Sb: #441835-Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: H. J Kallman 71740,2566
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Also, the soundbridge software is supposed to be available for the PC within a
couple of months.  The word I hear is that it may exceed the MAC version in
capabilities, although I have no details.  Jay

#: 442708 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
31-Aug-95  07:44:17
Sb: #441835-Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: JOHN FISHER 76654,1761
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,
Thank you for the assistance, I am connected to a Mac using performer.
Roland RD300s ( controller )
QS + Piano
Kawia K1m ( A true dinosaur )
Roland TR 626 Drum machine.

I look forward to your assistance as I am learning MIDI thanks to folks such
as yourself.MANY MANY THANKS !
Is this stuff way cool or what ?
John Fisher

#: 440789 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Aug-95  03:31:18
Sb: #439449-#Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: Matthias Gleichmann 100740,1774
To: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337 (X)

Hi Peter ! I think it is possible to split on one channel ! You have to
prepare a programm  as a splitted, then you can use it in the mix ! Or am I
not understanding your question ? Please write a message to me so we can
discuss that problem ! I also have some questions on the quadrasynth. Would be
nice to read from you !
Bye, Mzz

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#: 440823 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Aug-95  08:53:42
Sb: #440789-Quadrasynth mix editing
Fm: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337
To: Matthias Gleichmann 100740,1774

Hi Mzz, My original problem stems from the fact that I have poor keyboard
playing skills,and use a Roland GI-10 Midi Guitar Interface,Cubase 1.02.,and a
Korg 05R/W.I have WFW's set up for the Korg serial interface,but Cubase set up
for 16 channels on the Korg,and 16 channels of MPU for the Quadrasynth.( A
very cheap way of obtaining 32 Midi Channels! ). However, because the Roland
only outputs on 1channel at a time,and Cubase (even in Multi-Record) only
records on 4 channels at a time, I cant't access most of the really nice BIG
mixes on the Quad in realtime.Ideally,I would like to use the time honoured
method of just re-assigning Midi channels on the Quad, but there you go!
If I can help You with any of the above let me know.

PS Windows'95 in it's present state (i.e. Build 490) only supports the Korg
driver if you upgrade over your present WFW 3.11 set up and then won't allow
split Midi.

Peter
in a very sunny Scotland.


#: 446536 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Sep-95  21:02:32
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Mark C. Damia 74727,534
To: All

Could some kind soul explain how I program my Quadrasynth for General Midi?
I'm using a Windows sequencer and can't figure out how to pick up the correct
mapping.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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#: 446569 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]

21-Sep-95  01:35:40
Sb: #446536-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Mark C. Damia 74727,534 (X)

If you have the original QuadraSynth, it's a good idea to get the Plus
upgrade, which makes the QS fully GM-compatible, and a much better
synth. Second option: I uploaded the QuadraSynth patches to the Forum
Library, if your sequencer can handle sysex dumps, just load the GM
bank into the QS. Then select mix 0, and change channel 10 to patch
78, and you're all set. You may want to save your user bank first. Let
me know if you need any help,

Les

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#: 446581 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
21-Sep-95  04:57:28
Sb: #446569-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Mark C. Damia 74727,534
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Thanks very much.  I'm planning on getting the upgrade (heard great things
about it) as soon as the budget permits.

>> load the GM bank into the QS. Then select mix 0, and change channel 10 to
patch 78, and you're all set.

I'm using a cheap Windows-based sequencer but will be getting a new one soon.
In regard to the above; Does the SYSEX dump replace mix 0 (User Mix, I
assume)?  Why the change on channel 10 to patch 78?

Also, does this mean that I don't have to set the Alesis to receive Program
Messages (MIDI PRG SEL option)?

Thanks again for your help.

Regards

Mark Damia

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#: 446702 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
21-Sep-95  19:16:45
Sb: #446581-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Mark C. Damia 74727,534 (X)

The GM bank is only a substitute, not real GM, so you have to set the
drums yourself. And since the drum patch number is 78 (preset not user
! ) and the GM drum channel is 10, the change is necessary. GM midi
files don't know that your drums are at patch number 78,  in GM
everything on channel 10 is drums.

>Also, does this mean that I don't have to set the Alesis to receive
>Program Messages (MIDI PRG SEL option)?

The GM sysex dump replaces all your user patches and mixes with the GM
type sounds, so you should save your user bank before the dump. The
patch numbers are the same as the GM numbers, (except for the drums)
so you can use mix 0, and leave MIDI PRG SEL on. The only problem is,
every time you play a GM midi file, you have to set the drums to 78.

The QS Plus has a dedicated GM bank, it can be turned on by a system
common message (GM - on) from the sequencer, and it acts like a Roland
SoundCanvas (only sounds better)

If you need more info, let me know

Les

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#: 446705 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
21-Sep-95  19:46:27
Sb: #446702-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Mark C. Damia 74727,534
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les;

>>The GM bank is only a substitute, not real GM, so you have to set
>>the drums yourself. And since the drum patch number is 78 (preset
>>not user ! ) and the GM drum channel is 10, the change is necessary.
>>GM midi files don't know that your drums are at patch number 78,  in
>>GM everything on channel 10 is drums.

In regard to the above.....Will the "Plus" upgrade get me pretty close to the
vanilla Q-Plus including GM?  Obiously, it wouldn't include physical keyboard
enhancements.  I'm not as concerned with those.  I'll go to my acoustic for
the physical stimulation (ar! ar!)

Thanks very much for all the helpful info.  I'll let you know how I make out.

#: 447449 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
26-Sep-95  01:52:56
Sb: #446536-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Jerry Castaldo 73061,2442
To: Mark C. Damia 74727,534

Mark,
How do you like the Quadrasynth? How much is it?
Thanks.
Jerry

#: 451978 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
19-Oct-95  21:16:19
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: James R. Northcott 103013,100
To: All

Can anyone give me any info on the Quadrasynth Plus Piano upgrade for the
Quadrasynth master keyboard?

I know the specs, I was wondering if anyone could help me decide whether it's
worth the money.  I would also be interested in gettoing some opinions on the
Quadrasynth in general - is it as good as I think it is?

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#: 452150 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Oct-95  13:35:44
Sb: #451978-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Axel Parkop 100436,3267
To: James R. Northcott 103013,100

James,
I own the quadrasynth S4 and I'm also planning an upgrade.I heard the
new piano sounds - pretty good- but the main reason for upgrading is
th GM-compatibility and the possibilty of direct access to all sounds
(patches) in the internal ram and rom and !!! to the PCMCIA card
without loading them into internal ram !!! also the effects are now of
a better quality ( Leslie !) so we ( the hole band) are thinking its
worth the money (even it is more expencive in germany than in the
states). Before upgrade (that can only be done in the factory or by
the distributor) you should contact them and arrange a short "out of
reach-time" for your quadrasynth. Look also in the library of this
forum.there is a really good windows-based editor for the quadrasynth.

I hope ,this helps you in your decision. Axel 

#: 446882 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
22-Sep-95  17:01:01
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth S4+
Fm: Marla Blow 102647,353
To: Any and Everybody


I don't know if this subject has been discussed already in this forum,
(probably has, I probably missed it)  but I'm planning ong buying the S4+ soon
and I am looking for opinions on it.

How much should I expect to pay for it?  How do you like the sounds?  I
personally love them, but I'd just like to know what other people think?  Does
Alesis make good products?

I'll just be using the S4+ for my own personal enjoyment.

Any input is greatly appreciated,  Thanks,  Marla

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#: 447249 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
25-Sep-95  01:36:26
Sb: #446882-#Alesis Quadrasynth S4+
Fm: H. J Kallman 71740,2566
To: Marla Blow 102647,353 (X)

Maria:  I have alot of Roland (e.g., JV-90 and XP-50) and Alesis products.  I
was disappointed with the initial S4 and its subsequent revised sounds and
thought the Roland products had much better sounds.  However, I recently had
my S4 upgraded to the S4-plus and think its quite an improvement and at least
approaches being competitive with the roland sounds.  Also, I purchased the
Pop/Rock expansion card and like it alot.  As to price, I usually figure
around 25% off retail on Alesis products (sometimes 30) although it depends on
where you are and have competitive the market is.  I believe the S4 plus
retails for $1099, although I'm not sure.  I paid $169 for the expansion card.
If you are in the L.A area by chance, I can give you the name of a relatively
unknown store that has  very good prices (they don't do mail order though, as
far as I know).  Good luck.  Jay 

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#: 447325 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
25-Sep-95  11:33:31
Sb: #447249-#Alesis Quadrasynth S4+
Fm: Marla Blow 102647,353
To: H. J Kallman 71740,2566 (X)

Sam Ash is selling it for $649.

I think I'm going to go for it.

Thanks for the input, Marla

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#: 447572 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
26-Sep-95  16:36:43
Sb: #447325-#Alesis Quadrasynth S4+
Fm: Kent Kingery 70476,1403
To: Marla Blow 102647,353 (X)

Marla:

> Sam Ash is selling it for $649.

Make sure that it is indeed an S4 Plus that you're getting for that price.
The price locally in Dallas seems to be around $800.

Kent

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#: 447802 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
27-Sep-95  19:09:21
Sb: #447572-Alesis Quadrasynth S4+
Fm: Marla Blow 102647,353
To: Kent Kingery 70476,1403 (X)

> Sam Ash is selling it for $649.

> Make sure that it is indeed an S4 Plus that you're getting for that price.
> The price locally in Dallas seems to be around $800.

You were right Kent.  It was the S4 selling at $649, the S4+ is $895.  I went
ahead and bought it yesterday.

I've been finding out since yesterday, that I could have gotten it cheaper
from a few other places and saved myself $125.  Right now I'm trying to decide
whether to take it back and get the extra cash or not.

It's like, on the one hand, taking it back and getting another one would be a
hassle, but OTOH, $125 is $125.

What do you think?  What does everyone else think?

Thanks for all your help and input, Marla

#: 448457 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
01-Oct-95  10:43:39
Sb: #QuadraSynth+ Opinions?
Fm: Roger Baird 71336,1200
To: [F] @All

Hello All!

I'm interested in learning how to play keyboard instruments (piano/synth) and,
so far, have had only a few months of "lessons" (I took a college piano
course).  I am looking for a synth with strong acoustic sounds (grand piano,
in particular), at least 76 keys, and a strong MIDI implementation (amongst
other things).  The price is also an important factor. 

In my search, I have more-or-less settled on Alesis' QuadraSynth Plus Piano.
It appears to meet the requirements mentioned above.  However, I hesitate to
make the purchase.  That is where this message comes in:

I would greatly appreciate any and all comments and opinions (good or bad)
regarding the QuadraSynth Plus Piano.

Thanks in advance!

.. Roger.

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#: 448522 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
01-Oct-95  18:35:39
Sb: #448457-#QuadraSynth+ Opinions?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Roger Baird 71336,1200 (X)

>...In my search, I have more-or-less settled on Alesis' QuadraSynth
>Plus Piano.  It appears to meet the requirements mentioned above.
>However, I hesitate to make the purchase.

Don't hesitate, you picked the winner. In the affordable category, the
QS+ is unbeatable. If you want to play with both hands, you need at
least 76 keys, so the 61-key synths are not for you (or me). And none
of the 76-key boards give you 64 voice polyphony, 24 MB of great
sounds, General MIDI, and all those cool drums and effects. Go and get
it, and have fun.

Les

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#: 448565 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
01-Oct-95  23:04:00

Sb: #448522-#QuadraSynth+ Opinions?
Fm: Roger Baird 71336,1200
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Hi Les,

<< Don't hesitate, you picked the winner. >>

Just what I wanted to hear! :-)  After not receiving any replies to my
original message a week ago, I was beginning to wonder.

<< Go and get it, and have fun. >>

I am seriously considering the purchase.  After a few more sessions with it, I
will probably make my decision (one way or the other).  I have a few
complaints about the QS+ but I am, overall, very impressed with it.

From your message, I assume that you own a QS+ ... Do you use it with a
computer?  If so, are you aware of a PC version of the SoundBridge software?

Thanks for the reply!

.. Roger.

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#: 448759 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
02-Oct-95  18:29:26
Sb: #448565-QuadraSynth+ Opinions?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Roger Baird 71336,1200 (X)

>I am seriously considering the purchase.  After a few more sessions
>with it, I will probably make my decision (one way or the other).  I
>have a few complaints about the QS+ but I am, overall, very impressed
>with it.

Wrong. Here is how I bought the QS :
Sunday 1:00 PM : See ad in Keyboard Magazine
Sunday 1:05 PM : Call Alto Music (they are open sundays) ask price -
Sunday 1:06 PM : Answer- sorry we can't tell you the price, but it's under
$1200
Sunday 1:07 PM : Find my life time savings ($1199 + tax) in cookie jar
Sunday 2:00 PM : Arrive to the store, make purchase without even trying the
synth and live happily ever after....

Decisions, decisions... If you try it at home for a week and don't
like it, they take it back anyway, so what's the risk? Some mail order
companies give you a month.

>From your message, I assume that you own a QS+ ... Do you use it with
>a computer? If so, are you aware of a PC version of the SoundBridge
>software?

Yes, I use it with a PC, I've heard about the SoundBridge, I just have
to find out how to get it. Also using that involves more spending : a
PCMCIA flash card, which goes for around $300+ .   Later..

Les


#: 449723 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
08-Oct-95  22:51:35
Sb: #448565-QuadraSynth+ Opinions?
Fm: H. J Kallman 71740,2566
To: Roger Baird 71336,1200 (X)

In talking to Alesis a month or so ago, they told me the Soundbridge software
for the PC was still in development but would be out soon.  I haven't checked
recently, but I suspect its close to being available from Alesis.  Jay

#: 450596 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
13-Oct-95  02:37:22
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth sysex
Fm: Axel Parkop 100436,3267
To: all

Hello, I hope that one of you is able to help me!?  I need for the
Alesis Quadrasynth a table of all available commands (MIDI)  the
SYSEX commands.) Does someone know where to get this or has one of you
a list of the commands? thanks    AXEL

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#: 451408 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
17-Oct-95  08:20:17
Sb: #450596-Alesis Quadrasynth sysex
Fm: Allan R Metts 70413,3531
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267

Send Alesis your request for Quadrasynth Sysex information over the Internet.
They were pretty prompt about getting back with me.

Their address is ALECORP@Alesis1.usa.com


#: 452147 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
20-Oct-95  13:14:39
Sb: #451408-#Alesis Quadrasynth sysex
Fm: Axel Parkop 100436,3267
To: Allan R Metts 70413,3531 (X)

thanks for the info,
cause I could not get connection to alesis1.usa.com I contacted
the german distributer and they sent me the complete papers.
Axel

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#: 452431 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
22-Oct-95  07:42:22
Sb: #452147-Alesis Quadrasynth sysex
Fm: Allan R Metts 70413,3531
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267 (X)

Glad you got the info you needed.

Should you ever need to contact Alesis in the future, I think the Internet
address I gave you is case-sensitive. Alesis apparently departed from
convention by using upper case in their address.

Send the message through Internet Email as ALECORP@Alesis1.usa.com

I can send such a message through CompuServe mail by putting INTERNET> before
the address.

AMetts -- Atlanta, USA

#: 430210 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
22-Jun-95  14:26:46
Sb: #QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337
To: all

Can anyone help me find a good Windows Alesis QuadraSynth editor?
TIA
Peter

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#: 430270 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
22-Jun-95  19:53:14
Sb: #430210-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337 (X)

>Can anyone help me find a good Windows Alesis QuadraSynth editor?

There is only one Windows Quadrasynth editor, I uploaded it to the
library a while ago, then later it mysteriously disappeared. It is
available at the Quadrasynth Home Page on the WWW.  The file name is
QE11.zip. It works very well for me, (and others) and it's a freeware
program. If you can't find it, let me know, I may upload it again,
hope they will not throw it out again. It's a little tricky to install

if someone never seen a computer before, or lacking common sense, but
once you installed it's really good.

Les

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#: 430567 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
24-Jun-95  04:02:50
Sb: #430270-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Do you have the address of the Quadrasynth Home page.  I would like to
get a copy of the Quadrasynth editor?

Ripley

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#: 430654 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
24-Jun-95  16:30:03
Sb: #430567-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113 (X)

>Do you have the address of the Quadrasynth Home page.  I would like
>to get a copy of the Quadrasynth editor?

Here is the WWW address:

http://coos.dartmouth.edu/~djb/qs/qs_index.html

Les

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#: 430811 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
25-Jun-95  16:30:06
Sb: #430654-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Thanks for the Quadrasynth WWW address. I downloded the Quadrasynth
editor and it worked fine. It did give me an error that it could not
save vbrun300.dll in the windows\system directory. When I looked,
there was already a vbrunn300.dll in that directory, so I removed it
and the installation went fine. Any idea what that file is for. I'm
leary of removing a file from windows when I don't know why it was
there in the first place.

Ripley

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#: 430814 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
25-Jun-95  16:55:59
Sb: #430811-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113 (X)

You can remove vbrun300.dll , no problem, the Editor will install it
anyway, so you'll get it back. The author should have left it out,
since everyone has it, most Windows programs need it. I put my
vbrun300.dll in a backup directory, just in case, but never needed it
again.

Les

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#: 430860 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
25-Jun-95  20:54:53
Sb: #430814-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

I also downloaded some Quadrasynth files from the Quadrasynth home
page that you gave me.

They have a .mid extension. Do you know how I can transmit them to the
Quadrasynth? 

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#: 430896 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
25-Jun-95  23:33:19
Sb: #430860-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113 (X)

>I also downloaded some Quadrasynth files from the Quadrasynth home
>page that you gave me. They have a .mid extension. Do you know how I
>can transmit them to the Quadrasynth?

If you use Cakewalk,  just load them like any other .mid file,  but
don't play them. Go to Sysex View, and there they are! Instead of
sending them by the bankload, you can send them one patch at a time.
If you don't have Cakewalk, send them to me, I can turn them into .syx
files for you. It's also possible, that other sequencer programs can
handle it, I just don't know about them....

Les

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#: 431083 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
26-Jun-95  20:05:44
Sb: #430896-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

> If you don't have Cakewalk, send them  to me, I can turn them into .syx
> files for you.

> It's also possible, that other sequencer
> programs can handle it, I just don't know about them....

Les,

I am using Voyetra Sequencer Plus Gold. I don't think it can handle
.mid or .syx files for the Quadrasynth. I purchased the sequencer a
few years ago. If I send you the files I'm still not sure that I can
transmit them to the Quadrasynth.

I downloaded the Quadrasynth syx files that are on this bulletin board
and also downloaded a system exclusive data manager, sysex I beleive,
and was sucessful in transmitting these files to the Quadrasynth. The
only problem is, I did this a few months ago and have forgotten how I
did it.   I wish I could get in the habit of of writing these things
down.

Thanks for your help.

Ripley

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#: 431114 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
26-Jun-95  22:08:51
Sb: #431083-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113 (X)

>I downloaded the Quadrasynth syx files that are on this bulletin
>board and also downloaded a system exclusive data manager, sysex I
>beleive, and was sucessful in transmitting these files  to the
>Quadrasynth. The only problem is, I did this a few months ago and
>have forgotten how I  did it.   I wish I could get in the habit of of
>writing these things down.

Have you tried the Quadrasynth Editor ? It can transmit .syx files to
and from the QS. The  .mid files (now I remember) contain the same
patches as the .syx files, just in different format, for Cakewalk
users, so you don't need them.

Les

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#: 431658 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
28-Jun-95  21:12:03
Sb: #431114-QuadraSynth editor (Win)

Fm: Ripley Newcomb 72704,113
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

> Have you tried the Quadrasynth Editor ? It can transmit .syx files to and
> from the  QS.

Les,

I tried the QS editor but it won't load these files for some reason. I
checked the byte length for the files off the bulletin board and they are
77776 bytes long. The QS editor saves files that are 79119 bytes long. I don't
know if this is a problem or not.

The files that  I would like to load on theQadrasynth came form the bulletin
board address you gave me and are:
qs_vc1.mid
qs_vc2.mid
qs_vc3.mid

If you have a copy of these and could convert them to a file that the QS
editor can handle that would be great. If not I could send them to you but I'm
not sure I know how to do that. I'm also thinking I might get a copy of
Cakewalk. Sounds like it would make life a lot easier.

Thanks for your help

Ripley

#: 430571 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
24-Jun-95  04:46:33
Sb: #430210-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: graham owen 100334,2150
To: PETER LANGAN 100616,1337 (X)

I think Midi Quest Version 5 supports it.

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#: 430715 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
25-Jun-95  00:27:13
Sb: #430571-#QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: H. J Kallman 71740,2566
To: graham owen 100334,2150 (X)

The last I heard about MIDI Quest was that they would have the Quadrasynth
Editor for their Version 5 in about a month.  That was probably two weeks ago
so it should be out shortly if not already.  Jay

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#: 431254 S7/IBM/PC Compatible  [MIDIFOR]
27-Jun-95  12:30:24
Sb: #430715-QuadraSynth editor (Win)
Fm: graham owen 100334,2150
To: H. J Kallman 71740,2566 (X)

I have Version 5 and have been using it for about 3 weeks, I've just checked
the install disks and the Quadra is not on there yet, I thought I'd seen it
when I installed the SW but was wrong.

Graham

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#: 451543 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Oct-95  18:43:04
Sb: #anyone hear Alesis QS6?
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: all

I;m looking for a synth. the roland xp-50 has been given rave reviews. HAS
anyone heard the qs6. i want lots of sounds and lots of polyphony.


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#: 451575 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Oct-95  22:19:22
Sb: #451543-#anyone hear Alesis QS6?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337 (X)

 >I;m looking for a synth. the roland xp-50 has been given rave reviews.
>HAS anyone heard the qs6. i want lots of sounds and lots of polyphony.

With the QS6 you get 64 voice polyphony, 640 on-board sounds, 500 mixes, and a
PCMCIA
card slot for more sounds or your own custom samples. Comes with built in
serial interface
for PC or Mac. Free sequencing software and a CD-ROM with extra sounds and
sequences.
Plus the Sound Bridge software for creating samples for the QS6. Costs a lot
less than the XP-50.
Good deal, check it out.

Les

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#: 451740 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Oct-95  19:25:36
Sb: #451575-anyone hear Alesis QS6?
Fm: Tim Clarke 74732,544
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

How much does the Q6 sell for, mail order?

#: 452969 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    24-Oct-95  18:56:24
Sb: #451575-anyone hear Alesis QS6?
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

sounds good. they dont seem to push alesis products here in Montreal. And
Alesis phones are always busy.. so their stuff must be good.
i hope their patches are as 'fat' as the xp-50.

#: 453347 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    26-Oct-95  09:31:34
Sb: #452969-anyone hear Alesis QS6?
Fm: Bob Puff [Atari] 76702,1076
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337 (X)

 >> Alesis phones are always busy.. so their stuff must be good.

Phones being always busy doesn't mean the products are good!  They could be
busy because:

  1. Everyone is having problems with their Alesis equipment.
  2. They have one customer service representative.
  3. They took all the phones off the hook and went home.
  4. None of the above
  5. All of the above

#: 451747 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Oct-95  19:45:01
Sb: #451740-anyone hear ALESIS QS6?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Tim Clarke 74732,544

 >How much does the Q6 sell for, mail order?

 Around $800 (?) Call them for current prices.

#: 452226 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    21-Oct-95  02:07:27
Sb: #Alesis QS+Piano Samples
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: all

I'm looking for an accessible collection of quality samples to download into
my QuadraSynth Piano Plus synthesizer.  They can be in any of the common
formats, e.g. WAV, AIF, SampleCell, MOD, etc.  Does anyone know of a good
source on CServe or the internet?  I keep batting "zero" except for a few drum

or loop-type samples.

Thanks!


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#: 453188 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    25-Oct-95  15:54:57
Sb: #452226-#Alesis QS+Piano Samples
Fm: Axel Parkop 100436,3267
To: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137 (X)

I'm interested in how you can download samples into a quadrasynth.
can you tell me ,how u do this??
regards   AXEL

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#: 453236 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    25-Oct-95  20:43:26
Sb: #453188-Alesis QS+Piano Samples
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267 (X)

Alesis now produces a program called "Sound Bridge" for the PC and MAC that
dumps samples to the synth.  I haven't used it yet, but supposedly it will
translate .WAV, AIFF, and Sample Cell format sound files into QuadraSynth
Piano Plus format.  It sends the info through the MIDI cable into a sample RAM
card.
- Kevin

#: 453410 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    26-Oct-95  13:43:01
Sb: #452226-Alesis QS+Piano Samples
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137

Kevin,

I do hope you have secured a PCMCIA RAM card for your QS+Piano and have a MAC
to run your Macintosh version fo Sound Bridge software on it.  You mention
many different sound file formats but you must also have the sound type
conversion tools to use for purposes of preparing a SampleCell format file for
the MAC to load onto your RAM PCMCIA card.  I also have a QS+Piano but am
waiting for Alesis to release their Windows version of Sound Bridge software
before purchasing a 4 or 8 meg PCMCIA RAM card.  I have many sound files and
the ability to convert to the various compatible file formats.  I have secured
them from the Public Domain file areas on the Internet.  They include AIFF,
WAV, KRZ (Kurzweil) EPS (Ensonic), etc.  I would not ever use the 8-bit sound
samples contained in MOD files and stay strictly with 16-bit, quality samples
that are long enough to set good loop points.  Some interesting challenges
ahead in the sample areas on the QS+Piano...

Craig Knouf

#: 453469 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    26-Oct-95  18:14:59
Sb: #453410-#Alesis QS+Piano Samples
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

>I also have a QS+Piano but am waiting for Alesis to release their Windows
version of Sound Bridge >software before purchasing a 4 or 8 meg PCMCIA RAM
card.

Wait no longer, the SoundBridge for Windows is here. I will upload it to the
Library in a few minutes.
It should be available for download tomorrow.

Les

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#: 453478 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    26-Oct-95  18:58:22
Sb: #453469-Alesis QS+Piano Samples
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Yes!  Fantastic!  Thanks, Les.
- Kevin

#: 452383 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    21-Oct-95  21:42:04
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: James R. Northcott 103013,100
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267 (X)

Thanks.
I got the editor, but it won't acknowledge the existence of my S4.
Just wondering, if the editor works for you what system do you have?
Mine is 1.03 - maybe too old??

-James

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#: 453187 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    25-Oct-95  15:37:47
Sb: #452383-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Axel Parkop 100436,3267
To: James R. Northcott 103013,100

the editor has Version 1.1
but anyhow,there should not be a problem ...
possibly you have the problem I had:
the adaptor-cable from the soundcard to midi.It should be equipped
correctly with the driver an optocoupler for current-loop (thats part of
midi-standard !).some music-shops or computer-shops sell simple
cables for a high price,making you think,that its a correct built cable.
the alesis quadrasynth accepts fast arriving data and also sends them very
fast (no pause between packets).the errorfree transmission can
only be provided by above mentioned adaptors.
look at the top right corner of the editor: it shows you in-  and outgoing
midi-traffic.
be also shure to set your quadrasynth to receive sysex-data and
do this on channnel 1

good luck      AXEL
.
If you have problems , maybe there is chance to contact
Peter Feldbaumer , E-Mail:  field@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at
who hase done the changes from prior versions to 1.1
or Paul Swennenhuis,E-Mail p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl
who has written the program.

#: 453479 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    26-Oct-95  19:03:16
Sb: #453187-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Olu Odulate 100013,530
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267 (X)

Axel,

 I seem to have very similar problems with my Quadrasynth. However, I went
through the QS manual from front to back without finding out how to put it to
receive sys-ex data on a specific channel, as you describe. How it this done?

 Searching for an answer,

 Olu Odulate
 Sweden

  -Olu Odulate


#: 454237 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    30-Oct-95  15:15:42
Sb: #453187-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: James R. Northcott 103013,100
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267 (X)

>the editor has Version 1.1
>but anyhow,there should not be a problem ...

>possibly you have the problem I had:
>the adaptor-cable from the soundcard to midi.It should be equipped
>correctly with the driver an optocoupler for current-loop (thats part of
midi-standard >!).some

Thanks.

Actually, the problem was that my MPU-401 was set to "running status". It

works now.

-James

#: 468643 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    11-Jan-96  00:06:56
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: All

I was wondering if anyone out there was familiar with the Alesis Quadrasynth
Plus keyboard - I have been investigating in that price range and it looks to
be the best value.  One thing I am new to however is sampling - the
quadrasynth does have sampling capabilities onto PCMCIA ram cards, as well as
a multitude of effects.  What I was wondering is how it might compare to a top
end sampling keyboard, such as the Kurzweil K2X00 series, of which I seem to
hear no end of praise.  I originally looked into those as well, but being a
dedicated keyboar st I require more polyphany and more keys (76 vs. 61).  In
any case, any opinion s or experiences with these units would be appreciated.
Maybe then I can figure out how to properly space these compuserve messages :]

        Ian Kelk

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#: 468847 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    11-Jan-96  20:54:44
Sb: #468643-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Ian

You can't find a better value than the QS+, I suggest buy it, and if you don't
like it
just send it over to me, I can always use another one. If you have unlimited
funds available,
then you may want to look at the new K2500 keyboards, they are almost as good
as the QS.
The QS+ comes loaded with useful sounds, and you can always expand it using
factory ROM
cards, or your own custom PCMCIA RAM. Later you can add a sound module or a
sampler
if you want. So if the keyboard feels good, there is no reason not to buy it.

Les

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#: 468872 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    11-Jan-96  22:46:09
Sb: #468847-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Thanks for the info - as it happens I just got back from purchasing it :].
Unfortunately, the store ran out of documentation for it (it was shipped
without it) and so I am sitting here goofing around with it... I am impressed
with its sound though.  The K2500 was waaay out of my price range - I am in
Toronto and the last I heard of the 88 key version was around $5000... which I
find a little high... Later

Ian

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#: 469054 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    12-Jan-96  19:31:03
Sb: #468872-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

>Thanks for the info - as it happens I just got back from purchasing it :].
Unfortunately, the store
>ran out of documentation for it (it was shipped without it) and so I am
sitting here goofing around
>with it... I am impressed with its sound though.

It sure sounds good. If you need even more sounds, you can find them right
here in the Library.
The QuadraSynth is very easy to use, you can figure it out without ever
reading the manual
(I did). If you need any help, just email me, or leave a message here.

> The K2500 was waaay out of my price range - I am in Toronto and the last I
heard of the 88
>key version was around $5000... which I find a little high... Later

It can cost a lot more if you want some of the options, ROM and RAM upgrades
etc.
I wouldn't call it affordable.

Have fun with your new QS+,

Les




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#: 469093 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    12-Jan-96  22:58:56
Sb: #469054-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

> It sure sounds good. If you need even more sounds, you can find them right
here in the Library. > The QuadraSynth is very easy to use, you can figure it
out without ever reading the manual

        One thing I am a little hesitant right now (I'll have the manual by
tomorrow) is the factory presets - I have read that they are modifyable and I
don't want to lose them until I really know what I'm doing.  I have seen a
file in the libraries that is supposed to return the original qs to its
settings - how might that affect the plus?

Ian

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#: 469313 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    13-Jan-96  21:30:21
Sb: #469093-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

> One thing I am a little hesitant right now (I'll have the manual by
tomorrow) is the factory presets
> I have read that they are modifyable and I don't want to lose them until I
really know what I'm
> doing.  I have seen a file in the libraries that is supposed to return the
original qs to its settings -
> how might that affect the plus?

I just searched the Library, and couldn't find that file you mentioned.
What you should do is backup your user bank. If your keyboard is connected to
your
computer via MIDI, and you have a good sequencer program (like Cakewalk Pro)

or a
sysex-dump utility, backing up banks or individual patches is easy.
Let me know more about your setup, and I can tell you how to do it. Until
then, stay
away from the STORE button, chances are if you touch it, you'll overwrite
something.

Les

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#: 469352 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    14-Jan-96  00:31:20
Sb: #469313-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

>  I just searched the Library, and couldn't find that file you mentioned.
What you should do is backup your user bank. If your keyboard is connected to
your computer via MIDI, and you have a good sequencer program (like Cakewalk
Pro) or sysex-dump utility, backing up banks or individual patches is easy.
Let me know more about your setup, and I can tell you how

The filename was QSYNTH.SIT - I'm not sure what library but it was in this
forum - do a scan for quadrasynth.  It seems to work with MidiEx, but I have
not tried it with the synth yet - I probably won't just in case. The setup I
have is with a 486/100 based pc with 32 meg ram yada yada.. I am using a
Roland Rap-10 card as a midi card (it has 2 ports).  I imagine the only way I
can use the two together is if I get some kind of mixing board which sadly is
not cost-feasible at the moment.  I am using Cakewalk Pro 3.0 - unfortunately
I bought it used without a registration card and I don't yet have v3.01,
whatever the difference may be.  I'll poke around in CPW tonite and see if I
can figure out any of the sysex stuff ( which I am quite unfamiliar with).

Ian

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#: 469503 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    14-Jan-96  13:52:28
Sb: #469352-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Ian,

Here's how to save your User Bank with Cakewalk:

1. Start Cakewalk, from the VIEW menu select SYSX
2. Click on RECEIVE, and from the list select ALESIS QUADRASYNTH ALL DATA
3. If your QS is turned on and properly connected, you should see the data
being
    transferred now.
4. After it finished with the transfer (it should show : 79479 bytes
transferred) click on
    DONE, and SAVE BANK (choose a file name and save it)
    The file name extension will be  .syx. Cakewalk recognizes these files,
and lets you
    load and transfer them to and from synths.
5. In case you need it you can simply LOAD this bank from the disk, and SEND
it to
    the QS+.
You can save individual patches or mixes too.
Since you're a Cakewalk user, you may want to download the Instrument
Definition file
for the QS+ , it's in the Forum Library.

Les
  

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#: 469533 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    14-Jan-96  16:11:51
Sb: #469503-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

>  You can save individual patches or mixes too. Since you're a Cakewalk user,
you may want to download the Instrument Definition file for the QS+ , it's in
the Forum Library.

Thanks for the directions - I had no problems.. what I'm wondering now is what
all the other buffers are - the efx, mix, and prg buffers as welll as the
singles - does it receive whatever patch the qs+ is currently set to? is I am
assuming the user bank is the only place to put personallized patches -
  BTW, is the volume wheel assignable?  I can't figure out why else they'd make
it so large.


Ian

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#: 469628 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  03:35:05
Sb: #469533-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

 > Thanks for the directions - I had no problems.. what I'm wondering now is
what all the other
 > buffers are - the efx, mix, and prg buffers as welll as the singles - does
it receive whatever
 > patch the qs+ is currently set to? is I am assuming the user bank is the
only place to put
 > personallized patches -

When you edit a patch or mix, it goes to the edit buffer. You can send it to
the computer,
or store it at a user bank location. If you don't store it the next time you
change patches it
will go away. You can edit the preset programs, you just have to save them to
the user bank,
or the computer. It's handy when you come up with some great sound, and don't
want to mix
up your user bank, just send it to the computer, deal with it later.
When you dump a sound from the computer, it goes to the edit buffer too.

 > BTW, is the volume wheel assignable?  I can't figure out why else they'd
make it so large

 I don't know why Alesis didn't make that wheel assignable, it would be fun.
Well, you can't
have everything....

Les
 

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#: 469810 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  15:47:07
Sb: #469628-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

One small thing thats bugging me is about volume - it seems when I use
speakers instead of earphones I need to turn the wheel to about three-quarters
of the way around - as well when I use global mode and change the vel velocity

settings (both sensitivity and curve) the point where it says "Maximum" the
keys are much louder than I can strick them in "weighted" or "plastic"
mode..is this normal?

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#: 469874 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  20:53:05
Sb: #469810-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

>One small thing thats bugging me is about volume - it seems when I use
speakers instead of
>earphones I need to turn the wheel to about three-quarters of the way around
- as well when I
>use global mode and change the vel velocity settings (both sensitivity and
curve) the point where
>it says "Maximum" the keys are much louder than I can strick them in
"weighted" or "plastic"
>mode..is this normal?


It's normal, the higher you set the sensitivity level, the louder the keys
get.
If you use speakers instead of headphones, you need higher volume settings,
that's normal too.


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#: 469910 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  22:34:16
Sb: #469874-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

>  If you use speakers instead of headphones, you need higher volume settings,
that's normal too.

Ok, good - I was worried about having the volume too loud for extended periods
of time.  Out of curiousity, what sort of equipment and applications do you
use your midi equipment for? (terrible sentence :)

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#: 469932 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Jan-96  03:12:15
Sb: #469910-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

 > Out of curiousity, what sort of equipment and applications do you use ...

I have a little home studio, strictly for fun. I change my equipment
regularly, here is my
current setup: Pentium PC with 2 soundcards, MIDI patchbay, MIDI merger,
QuadraSynth Plus,
K2000, Proteus2, Oberheim Drummer, SR-16, M160 mixer, MEQ230 equalizer,
QuadraVerb2,
RA100 amp, Monitor One speakers, ADAT recorder. I use Cakewalk Pro for
sequencing.
What I need is lots of money to buy more toys, and lots of time to play with
them....

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#: 470080 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Jan-96  17:53:54
Sb: #469932-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

QuadraSynth Plus, K2000, Proteus2, Oberheim Drummer, SR-16, M160 mixer, MEQ230
equalizer, QuadraVerb2, RA100 amp, Monitor One speakers, ADAT recorder. I use
Cakewalk Pro for sequencing. What I need is lots of money to buy more toys,
and lots of time to play with them....

:) seems like you already have a lot of toys....  my setup is much more basic
- just the RAP-10, Quadrasynth and some stero speakers I actually found in
someones garbage two years ago - they seem to work fine, just cosmetically
damaged (the cloth cover is missing on one of them).  One problem I'm having
right now is using the QS+ with midi - I have it working fine in GM mode, but
I have problems telling it to use the other banks... how did you set up your
Cakewalk instrument settings?

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#: 470332 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  19:42:01
Sb: #470080-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

 > :) seems like you already have a lot of toys....  my setup is much more
basic....

I never buy anything new, (waste of money), I got all my stuff used, from the
Internet market.
If you buy new gear, and you don't like it any more, you have to take a
substantial loss when
you sell it. If you get it used, at a reasonable price, you can sell it later
for the same price, or
very little less. I have a limited budget, but this way I could try most of
the synths and other
goodies, I just can't keep them all, if I want something "new", I have to sell
something old....

 > One problem I'm having right now is using the QS+ with midi - I have it
working fine in GM
> mode, but I have problems telling it to use the other banks... how did you
set up your Cakewalk
> instrument settings?

If you are in GM mode, you can't change banks. First you have to switch GM off
(in Global Mode)
When GM is turned off, you can select banks, and patches (did you find my .INS
file in the
Library?) If you want to switch between GM - ON and GM - OFF from Cakewalk,
you have to
send a sysex message to the keyboard. You can build this message into your
sequences, so
it will go automatically. Another way to do it is saving your GLOBAL data in
SYSX View of
Cakewalk. First turn GM off manually, then select Receive - Alesis QS Global
Data, and save
it as a sysex file, ie. gm_off.syx. Later, when you need it, you can place
that sysex message
in your files, so they will run in normal mode.
Other easy way to do it, go to SYSX View, click on EDIT BYTES, and type in
exactly the
following data :         F0 7E 7F 09 02 F7
Click on OK, and save it as gm_off.syx
Then go back to the same EDIT window, and change the number 2 to 1, so it will

look like
this:                         F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7
Save this one as gm_on.syx, and now you have these two short files that can
turn GM on
and off from Cakewalk, or from any MIDI file.

Let me know if you need any help

Les
  

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#: 470364 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  22:55:22
Sb: #470332-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

I never buy anything new, (waste of money), I got all my stuff used, from the
Internet market.

How much of a discount do you get when buying used?

>  look like this:                         F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7 Save this one as
gm_on.syx, and now you have these two short files that can turn GM on and off
from Cakewalk, or from any MIDI file.


Thanks for all that - I did receive the manual and discovered the GM mode
switch - I seems though that the only way I can access all the sounds for
playback is when I am in MIX 00 of Pre4.  How is this mix able to receive any
instruction when the others can't?  BTW, I did get the QS_PLUS.ins file.

Ian

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#: 470380 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Jan-96  00:11:32
Sb: #470364-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

 > How much of a discount do you get when buying used?

Depending on the age and condition, an average 30-50%. Can be more or less.

>Thanks for all that - I did receive the manual and discovered the GM mode
switch - I seems
>though that the only way I can access all the sounds for playback is when I
am in MIX 00 of
>Pre4.  How is this mix able to receive any instruction when the others can't?
BTW, I did get the
> QS_PLUS.ins file.

There are two types of mixes on the QS. One is where all the patches sound
together, it's
a kind of layering and splitting. You have ie. bass in the left hand and
piano+strings together
in the right hand. This type of mix uses only 2 to 6 channels, and disables
the rest of them.
The other kind of mix is for sequencing, it receives MIDI data on all 16
channels, like the
GM mix 0. You have the option to create either type of mixes, you just have to
edit them.
This includes the ENABLING of channels. You can select on each channel the
following
options: MIDI IN, MIDI OUT, KEYBOARD (In mix mode hit the SELECT button,
ENABLE the
channel, then go to RANGE, PAGE 2, and select MIDI IN) You have to do that
with each channel.
Or you can simply copy the GM mix to a user bank location.  If you check the
GM 00 mix, you
can see that all channels are set to MIDI IN, so they can receive data from
the sequencer.
I usually turn on KEYBOARD for channel 1, so I can play along, and record
stuff.
After you altered the mix of your choice, don't forget to store it, so you can
use it later.
The first type of mix sounds better when you select NORMAL from GLOBAL MODE
PAGE 2.
The second type is better with channel solo mode.

To make things a bit more complicated, you also have the option to select
mixes and effects
from the sequencer. From GLOBAL, PAGE 6, you can assign a channel that will
receive mix
change messages instead of patch change.  And each mix can be edited, so it
can receive
effect changes on a selected channel.

Now is this fun or what?

Les





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#: 470538 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Jan-96  17:26:21
Sb: #470380-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

> Now is this fun or what?


Whew - that's a real mouthful.  I'll have to check it out- thanks.

Ian

#: 470247 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  11:55:33
Sb: #469810-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Ian,

I believe your Quadrasynth manual recommends that you turn the volume dial all
the way up.  You will get the best quality sound that way based on what they
say.  Then you would use your mixer or amplifier to control the actual volume
coming out of your speakers.

Craig Knouf

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#: 470283 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  15:37:33
Sb: #470247-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

>  I believe your Quadrasynth manual recommends that you turn the volume dial
all the way up.  You will get the best quality sound that way based on what
they

I believe you are correct - at the time I did not have a manual - apparently
Alesis had a shortage of manuals sent here (Toronto) and I had to wait a week
for it.  It does say that the highest volume gives best quality - makes me
wonder why they'd bother with a volume control :).  The only time I turn it
down is for headphone use.

Ian

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#: 470310 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  17:13:50
Sb: #470283-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Yes lan, I still find myself turning the volume down instead of leaving it at
the highest volume.  It would have been great if Alesis, as someone else

suggested, had allowed you to program that big dial as a controller of your
choice.  Just the next thing for a QS ROM upgrade.  

Criag Knouf

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#: 470335 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  19:51:44
Sb: #470310-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

 > Yes lan, I still find myself turning the volume down instead of leaving it
at the highest volume.
>  It would have been great if Alesis, as someone else suggested, had allowed
you to program
> that big dial as a controller of your choice.  Just the next thing for a QS
ROM upgrade.  

I don't think they get the message at Alesis. I remember the first review in
Keyboard Magazine,
they were complaining about the waste of this nice big, fun-to-touch dial as a
useless volume
control. Alesis didn't change it with the Plus upgrade, when they had the
chance to do it. I doubt
they ever will...  It's a good place to put your drink though...

Les

#: 471345 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Jan-96  14:39:11
Sb: #470283-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Robert "Robby" Wachtel 100023,2335
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

That's normal for every synth around ...

Robby

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#: 471374 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Jan-96  16:19:43
Sb: #471345-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Robert "Robby" Wachtel 100023,2335 (X)

> That's normal for every synth around ...

I believe you are replying to an older message - what were you refering to?

Ian

#: 469518 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    14-Jan-96  15:23:36
Sb: #469352-#Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Bob Puff [Atari] 76702,1076
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Hi Ian,

  Saw that you were using a Roland RAP-10 also.  Have you used any DOS-based
sysex or sequencer programs with the RAP?  Was wondering if there was a
special driver or something that had to be used.

Bob

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#: 469535 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    14-Jan-96  16:15:21
Sb: #469518-Alesis Quadrasynth
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Bob Puff [Atari] 76702,1076

>  Saw that you were using a Roland RAP-10 also.  Have you used any DOS-based
sysex or sequencer programs with the RAP?  Was wondering if there was a
special driver or something that had to be used.

Nope, I've stuck to windows.  I don't believe that a dos driver even exists
for the rap.  Maybe if you used win95 and ran it in dos shell ?  that seems to
work with me in some old shareware midiplayers I had. I've pretty much stuck
with Cakewalk pro 3.0 and finale 3.0.  Both seem to fulfill all needs I have
(for now).

Ian

#: 454950 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    03-Nov-95  06:24:39
Sb: #Alesis QuadraSynth Plus!
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: all

For Alesis QuadraSynth Plus - Users:

The Sound Bridge software (PC Windows version) is available for downloads
at the Forum Library (1) / New Uploads

Les

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#: 455412 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Nov-95  22:18:14
Sb: #454950-#Alesis QuadraSynth Plus!
Fm: Patrick E. Vaughn 75477,2646
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Any ideas on where I could find a Windows 3.1 driver for the Alesis
Quadrasynth (needed to run SoundBridge)?  Does Alesis have a BBS, or is there
somewhere on Compuserve or the Internet where I could find it?  Thanks!

Patrick

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#: 455577 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Nov-95  19:41:09
Sb: #455412-#Alesis QuadraSynth Plus!
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Patrick E. Vaughn 75477,2646 (X)

>Any ideas on where I could find a Windows 3.1 driver for the Alesis
Quadrasynth (needed to run
>SoundBridge)?  Does Alesis have a BBS, or is there somewhere on Compuserve or
the Internet
>where I could find it?  Thanks

You don't need any specific driver. If your PC has Windows 3.1 installed, and
you have a Windows
compatible MIDI interface connected to the QuadraSynth Plus, you can use Sound
Bridge. If you
want to transfer and store the samples, you have to get a PCMCIA Card, the
type description is
in the Sound Bridge  Help file.

Les

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#: 455600 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Nov-95  21:48:30
Sb: #455577-Alesis QuadraSynth Plus!
Fm: Patrick E. Vaughn 75477,2646
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Thanks for the help, I think I've got it figured out now.

Patrick

#: 455700 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    07-Nov-95  11:19:28
Sb: #QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

I've noticed that the piano samples in the QuadraSynth Plus Piano have some
slight, fast-decaying harmonics mid-range on the keyboard.  For instance, the
D above middle C has a harmonic of F# about three octaves higher.  Have you
noticed this on yours?  Do you know if this is a characteristic of the grand
piano they sampled (e.g. sympathetic vibration between strings), or a fault in
the sample/design of the electronics?

Thanks,
- Kevin

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#: 455777 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]

    07-Nov-95  19:02:37
Sb: #455700-#QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137 (X)

>I've noticed that the piano samples in the QuadraSynth Plus Piano have some
slight, fast-decaying >harmonics mid-range on the keyboard.  For instance, the
D above middle C has a harmonic of F# about >three octaves higher.  Have you
noticed this on yours?  Do you know if this is a characteristic of the >grand
piano they sampled (e.g. sympathetic vibration between strings), or a fault in
the sample/design of >the electronics?

Most 'real' pianos have some sort of slight imprfections, that makes them
unique. If they are not
terribly annoying, forget about them, playing is so much fun, don't waste time
on hardly noticeable
nuances.

Les

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#: 455898 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Nov-95  10:27:32
Sb: #455777-#QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Robert Pernett 76702,1772
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

>>Most 'real' pianos have some sort of slight imprfections, that makes them
unique. If they are not terribly annoying, forget about them, playing is so
much fun, don't waste time on hardly noticeable nuances.<<

Melody lines in the middle range of the QS+ are less than satisfying as a
result of this nuances. Give me an old It-deosn't-really-sound-like-a-piano
Roland Digital Piano (MKS-20, RD-1000, P 330) anyday.

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#: 455910 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Nov-95  11:19:41
Sb: #455898-#QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: FRANK JOHNSON 71420,570
To: Robert Pernett 76702,1772 (X)

Have you tried a little touch of the old EQ? A 31 band might give you just the
notch filtering you need to trim those offensive harmonics.

Have you also checked to make sure that what you are hearing is not a matter
of a resonance or peak in some other part of the system? Granted it's a little
high, but, I don't know, maybe ringing in your tweeters????

I don't know the QS at all, so I can't suggest any real solutions for that
particular instrument. On some others, I have disguised elements of samples I
didn't love by layering another component, tweaking envelopes, and sneaking
some filtering on.

-F

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#: 455947 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Nov-95  15:19:27
Sb: #455910-QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Robert Pernett 76702,1772
To: FRANK JOHNSON 71420,570 (X)

Frank,

In the message originally left by Les...I thought the whole issue was the
"Fast Decaying" harmonics in the QS+ piano sample. It brings to mind the old
theological question we used to ponder concerning the differences and benefits
between additive and subtractive sythesis.

Until you start getting into layered sounds the core of most sample based
instruments is subtractive. You can filter out unwanted harmonics IF they
happend to be near or at the very top of the frequency sprectrum. My problem
with the piano sample is not with the presence of the harmonics but the fact
that it cuts out so quickly. There is too much information in the sample.

I would want to sustain high level of mid-frequency harmonic content for a
slightly longer period of time at higher velocity values, not just raise the
overall level of the existing harmonics. I get the vibe that they sampled the
piano without ever getting to past the middle-of-the-road key velocity (or
whatever term you would use for a traditional piano). I can't get any of the
piano patches to really "reach" for emphasis. Thats why I am most uninspired
by the Alesis Piano card...but it does sound fine in a mix.

Robert




#: 455962 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Nov-95  17:16:16
Sb: #455898-#QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Robert Pernett 76702,1772 (X)


>Melody lines in the middle range of the QS+ are less than satisfying as a
result of this nuances.
>Give me an old It-deosn't-really-sound-like-a-piano Roland Digital Piano
(MKS-20, RD-1000, P 330) >anyday.

Whatever you like... I don't believe an inexpensive synth has to be perfect.
And I'm more interested
in WHO plays the piano and HOW, than what kind of piano he plays.

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#: 456054 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    09-Nov-95  00:23:07
Sb: #455962-QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Robert Pernett 76702,1772
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,
>>And I'm more interested in WHO plays the piano and HOW, than what kind of
piano he plays.<<

Thats right.

Rob

#: 456035 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Nov-95  23:10:33
Sb: QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: FRANK JOHNSON 71420,570 (X)

>Have you also checked to make sure that what you are hearing is not a matter
of >a resonance or peak in some other part of the system? Granted it's a
little high, >but, I don't know, maybe ringing in your tweeters????

I've played the QS+P through several monitoring systems, including a good set
of headphones.  The harmonics are definitely coming from the synth.  I haven't

tried using EQ to notch out the harmonics (haven't purchased an EQ...)

I guess I would feel better knowing that the harmonics have their origin in
the piano Alesis used to generate the sample and not as a result of improper
sampling, imperfections in the electronics, etc.  Call me a purist...!
Perhaps I'll send an e-mail to Alesis and see what they have to say about it.

I'd have to say that the QS+P is a great-sounding synth and I've certainly
been having a lot of fun playing it for the two weeks I've had it.  I'd agree
with Les on that point -- "just enjoy playing it!".

Honestly, the QS+P is an awesome synth, in my opinion;  it has plenty of great
patches, and the piano does sound great -- with that one exception.

#: 456058 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    09-Nov-95  00:36:16
Sb: #456035-QS+P: piano harmonics
Fm: FRANK JOHNSON 71420,570
To: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137 (X)

It doesn't matter whether the harmonics that bug you have their origin in the
actual piano or (as you put it) "as a result of improper sampling,
imperfections in the electronics, etc." If they bug you, they bug you.

I suggest mayonnaise.

Hellman's works best ... under NO circumstances use Miracle Whip.

Take a goodly quantity and s-p-r-e-a-d it evenly on the keyboard of the
Alesis. Let it set overnight, so that it can ooze down in between the keys.

This will not affect the harmonics that you are hearing, but the action of the
key mechanism may acquire a feel (and, yes, quite possibly an odor) which will
discourage you from playing the thing. Thus the harmonics will not trouble you
as much.

It's just a thought.

-F

(should I switch to decaf?)

#: 456382 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    10-Nov-95  15:45:45
Sb: #Quadrasynth/Sound Bridge
Fm: Axel Parkop 100436,3267
To: all

Hi,
I downloaded the SoundBridge software ,but I have a problem with it !
When doing the MIDI TEST I/O , it does not find my S4.
I found,that it sends out a sysex-message with following pattern:
F0 7E 7F 06 01 F7
Whats this...??
Because of ALESIS' manufacturer ID it should look like:
F0 00 00 0E  ..... F7
Who can help on this?
Axel Parkop

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#: 456443 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    10-Nov-95  23:01:50
Sb: #456382-Quadrasynth/Sound Bridge
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Axel Parkop 100436,3267 (X)

 > I downloaded the SoundBridge software ,but I have a problem with it !
 > When doing the MIDI TEST I/O , it does not find my S4.

Did you check the MIDI SETUP window? If you selected the proper MIDI in and
out ports,
and the connections are ok. it should work.
Do you have an S4 or an S4 Plus?  SoundBridge is for the Plus (2.00) version
only.

#: 457541 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Nov-95  17:34:18
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth+Piano
Fm: Gerald E. Forman 71613,3707
To:  74766,2154 (X)

Dear Dom
       I'd like to find out about a keyboard; the Alesis Quadrasynth plus
Piano. I couldn't find an Alesis section in any of the 4 vendors (a-d) and,
since you seem to be one of the longest running sysops around, I'm asking you.
If you have any personal knowledge of this board, I'd appreciate if you'd pass
it on; if not, perhaps you could direct me to the right spot. Actually, if
Keyboard or Electronic Musician has reviewed it, perhaps you can tell me if I
can download the review? Thanks again, Dom. Jerry Forman


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#: 457564 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Nov-95  18:35:17
Sb: #457541-Alesis Quadrasynth+Piano
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Gerald E. Forman 71613,3707 (X)

Hi Gerald,

If you have any questions about the QuadraSynth or QuadraSynth Plus Piano, let
me know.
I uploaded some info and a few files you can use if you own a QS. Also there
is a "therad
capture" in the new uploads section of the Library about the subject. Keyboard
Magazine has it's own
web page where you can find reviews about the QS.  Alesis has no online
presence, not on
CompuServe or anywhere else. You can email them if you want.

Les

#: 457623 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Nov-95  23:38:24
Sb: #457541-Alesis Quadrasynth+Piano
Fm: Dominick Fontana -Sysop 74766,2154
To: Gerald E. Forman 71613,3707 (X)

Hi, Jerry.

      I checked through a bunch of my old magazines, thinking maybe I could
direct you to a review of the unit, but I couldn't find one. I am also not
aware if there is a review online. Sorry.

   I guess your best bet would be to call Alesis and ask them to send you the
literature.

   Good luck, Jerry.

 Dom Fontana


#: 458217 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Nov-95  22:05:41
Sb: #457541-Alesis Quadrasynth+Piano
Fm: Karl  J. Sandin 103211,3706
To: Gerald E. Forman 71613,3707

I own the version of the QS before the QS+ update and it is one hell of a work
horse. I went to the Audio Engineering Society convention this past October
out in NYC and checked out the QS+ hands-on and talked with a rep about it.
I'm definitely going to upgrade mine once I get the $$$. The QS+ has 640

patches and includes the 8 meg of stereo grand piano and lots lots more. I
really like the QS for its ease of operation, a nice big display, very
intuitive, and the manual makes sense too. If your serious about buying one
check one out for yourself and don't pay any more than $1300 for it I've seen
it for less, and I haven't seen another keyboard that keeps up with the QS for
the money.

#: 458745 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Nov-95  11:57:59
Sb: #457541-Alesis Quadrasynth+Piano
Fm: Jim W. Dusoe 76043,2252
To: Gerald E. Forman 71613,3707

Jerry,

There are some reviews for the QS back from last year in Keyboard magazine.
I'll check back issues and see if I can locate for you.  I just purchased the
QS+Piano about a month ago myself - best buy I've ever made in my opinion.
Had to do a quick and dirty project last weekend - some ambient sound
effects/electric piano stuff for a presentation at a school here.  It was my
first opportunity to dig into the innards and deal with some of the
programming/editing capabilities.  Was able to set up, learn all the editing
functions I needed and finish recording in less than six hours.  I would
recommend it to anyone - nothing else can touch it for the price.

I also had the opportunity to "A-B" it with a friends Korg O1/W.  For my
tastes, there wasn't much difference in capabilities between the two keybaords
as far as sound goes.

If you haven't bought one yet - I'd say go for it!!  Good Luck!!

Jim D.

#: 458246 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Nov-95  23:52:58
Sb: Alesis Quadrasynth+Piano
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: Gerald E. Forman 71613,3707

I purchased the QS+ just last month and have been having a blast with it.
There are a few drawbacks (e.g. some slight "ringing" harmonics mid-range on
the sampled piano) but for the most part, in my opinion, it is a wonderful

synth for the price.  I do most of my playing on a church worship team but
also enjoy recording some of my own music (strictly for fun) on a multi-track
recorder.  The sounds on this synth are very "full" -- and sound great in my
applications.  I certainly give it my recommendation.

- Kevin

#: 457647 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Nov-95  03:07:38
Sb: #QuadraSynth volume ctrl
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: all

Fellow QuadraSynth Plus Piano Users:

I'm looking for a simple way to simultaneously control the local master volume
of the QuadraSynth and to send the master volume change to my sequencing
software when recording a sequence.   I realize that the synthesizer's master
volume control only adjusts volume locally and will not send a MIDI signal, so
I tried to get one of the Quad knobs to do this in Program and Mix play modes
-- without success.  I may be doing it incorrectly.   Has anyone else tried
this?  What about using a volume pedal fed into Pedal #1 input?  Does this do
what I'm looking for?

Thanks in advance,
- Kevin

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#: 457680 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Nov-95  09:19:20
Sb: #457647-QuadraSynth volume ctrl
Fm: James Chandler Jr.-Sysop 71333,2651
To: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137 (X)

>>What about using a volume pedal fed into Pedal #1 input?  Does this do what
I'm looking for?

Hi, Kevin. I dunno anything about QuadraSynth, but most keyboards will by
default send controller 7, volume, when you wiggle an attached continuous
pedal (not on/off pedal).

I think that's what you are looking for.

When you were experimenting with the Quad knobs, were you assigning the knob
to send Controller 7?

#: 458094 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Nov-95  02:55:04
Sb: #QuadraSynth volume ctrl
Fm: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137
To: James Chandler Jr.-Sysop 71333,2651 (X)

James,

Thanks for the feedback.  Yes, I did set the knob to send Controller #7 -- but
it didn't do the trick for me.  I sent an e-mail to Alesis;  maybe they can
explain why it's not working for me.

I went ahead and picked up a Roland EV-5 expression pedal, which is working
pretty well for me now.  It does control local as well as MIDI volume.

Thanks again,
- Kevin

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#: 458126 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Nov-95  11:39:22
Sb: #458094-QuadraSynth volume ctrl
Fm: James Chandler Jr.-Sysop 71333,2651
To: Kevin W. Culp 73551,3137 (X)

>>I went ahead and picked up a Roland EV-5 expression pedal, which is working
pretty well for me now.  It does control local as well as MIDI volume.


Great to hear its working.

#: 460762 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    04-Dec-95  04:14:24
Sb: #Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: SYSOP (X)

Hi,

I have downloaded the various QS user patch banks available on this forum.
What I would like to do is to  take my favorite patches from each of  the
banks and compile them into a new bank.  What would be the easiest way to do
this ?. I have Cakewalk Pro 3 and the Quadrasynth Editor.

Jon

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#: 460935 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    04-Dec-95  20:13:58
Sb: #460762-#Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

>I have downloaded the various QS user patch banks available on this forum.
What I would like to
>do is to  take my favorite patches from each of  the banks and compile them
into a new bank.
>What would be the easiest way to do this ?. I have Cakewalk Pro 3 and the
Quadrasynth Editor.

Jon,

Use Cakewalk's Sysex utility, it allows you to dump complete banks or
individual patches
to and from the QS. You can organize your favorite patches in sysex view by
loading them to the
locations of your choice, 0-127, and then send them all back at once.
You can customize your Cakewalk Instrument Definition file (to include the new
banks).
Instead of typing in all the names, use the QS Editor to retrieve the patch
names and save them into
a text file, and then simply copy them into the Cakewalk .ins file.
Let me know if you need more detailed info.

Les

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#: 461002 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Dec-95  03:21:09
Sb: #460935-#Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Thanks again,  I was dreading the thought of typing in all those patch names
!!!.  I have used the sysex view facility so I'll see if I can work it all
out.

Will the effects patches have to be dealt with seperately?.

Jon.

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#: 461231 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Dec-95  23:27:34
Sb: #461002-Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

>Will the effects patches have to be dealt with seperately?.

Jon,

Yes, it's a good idea to save the effects too. In Cakewalk's SYSX view you
have 256 "banks", so
I'd suggest to save the patches to the first 128 locations, and the effects to
the next. This way
you can dump the whole thing at once, and then back to Cakewalk as one
complete bank.

Les

#: 461141 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Dec-95  16:29:12
Sb: #460935-#Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Hmm,

Yes I have had a look and will need more detail on how to sort my patches and
their individual effects into one bank.
Thanks,

Jon

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#: 461229 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Dec-95  23:27:32
Sb: #461141-#Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

>Yes I have had a look and will need more detail on how to sort my patches and
their individual
>effects into one bank.

Here's how to do it:

1. Start Cakewalk, open SYSX view.
2. Click on LOAD BANK, and load one bank of QS patches, then SEND it to the
QS.
3. Check out the sounds, and if you like ie. patch #10, and want to save it as
patch #13,
just highlight bank 13 in SYSX view, select RECEIVE - ALESIS QUADRASYNTH
SINGLE PROGRAM -
and enter the patch number you want to save. (ie. 10)
4. After receiving the data, click on NAME , and enter the name of the patch,
(so you wont forget it later)
5. Now you have your patch #10 loaded into bank 13 of Cakewalk SYSX. The
problem is, that the
patch data still has the original number (10) so if you want to change that
you have to change some
bytes using EDIT BYTES option in SYSX view. Be careful, and remember, those
are hexadecimal
numbers. You have to change the 7 th byte, (that's the patch number) It will
look like this:
    F0 00 00 0E 0E 00 0A
0A is 10 in hex, you want to change it to 13, so replace 0A with 0D and it's
done.

Much easier, if you just fill the SYSX banks with your patches, 0 to 127, and
when it's ready, renumber
the whole bank in 2 seconds using my little utility program, and forget the
byte editing.

6. Load your patches to SYSX view one by one to the location of your choice,
0-127.
7. Load each effect to banks 128-256 in the same order. (So patch #13 is in
bank #13, and
effect #13 is in bank # 127+13 = 140) Later the effects will be renumbered
too.
8. When all patches and effects are in place, and renumbered, you just click
on SEND ALL, and
the new reorganized bank will be sent to the Quadra. Save your file, open a
new one, and from
SYSX view now click on RECEIVE-ALESIS QUADRASYNTH ALL DATA .
9. After receiving the bank, click on SAVE BANK, and save it to disk as a
sysex (.syx) file.
If you need the renumbering utility, I'll email it to you.

Even better solution: Since I have all the QS banks (I'm the one who uploaded
them) you just
write down the names of the patches in the order you like, and send them to
me, I will create
the bank, and the Cakewalk Instrument definition file to go with it, and email
it to you. I think
it's much easier to do it, than to explain how. I suggest go with this option,
and have your new
bank ready in no time.

Les

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#: 461259 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Dec-95  04:23:40
Sb: #461229-#Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314

To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

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Les,

A thousand thank yous,  if you could do this it would be great.  I'll still
have a pop at it myself so I get the general idea (I have to learn these
things) but to create a whole bank will probably take me days .  I'll mail
the patches I want to you shortly.

One question,  when do you ever get time to do anything for yourself!

Thanks Again

Jon

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#: 461401 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Dec-95  23:38:08
Sb: #461259-Quadrasynth bank help
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

>A thousand thank yous,  if you could do this it would be great.  I'll still
have a pop at it myself so I get the >general idea (I have to learn these
things) but to create a whole bank will probably take me days .  I'll >mail
the patches I want to you shortly

Jon,

Just send them to me, I'll take care of the rest.

>One question,  when do you ever get time to do anything for yourself!

Since I discovered that sleeping is not necessary, I have plenty of time.

Les


#: 460776 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    04-Dec-95  06:58:15
Sb: #QuadSynth & Sound Bridge
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: SYSOP (X)

Hi,

Will the Sound Bridge software work on an original Quadrasynth fitted witha
PCMCIA flash RAM card?.

Regards,

Jon Hill.

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#: 460930 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    04-Dec-95  19:34:45
Sb: #460776-#QuadSynth & Sound Bridge
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

>Will the Sound Bridge software work on an original Quadrasynth fitted witha
PCMCIA flash RAM card?.

No. You have to get the PLUS upgrade for your QuadraSynth if you want to use
SoundBridge.

Les

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#: 461001 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Dec-95  03:17:33
Sb: #460930-#QuadSynth & Sound Bridge
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Hi Les

That is a a shame.

Sound Technology (The UK Alesis distributor) didn't know anything about the
QS+ upgrade.  I have faxed them the QS thread file from the Library to
enlighten them.

I WANT TO UPGRADE !!! 

Perhaps you can help me on another point.   Is it possible on the QS to
control envelope and oscillator parameters via midi in real time?.  In the
global settings I see there are four assignable controlers how do these work?

Thanks,

Jon.


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#: 461230 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Dec-95  23:27:33
Sb: #461001-#QuadSynth & Sound Bridge
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Jon Hill 70000,1314 (X)

>Perhaps you can help me on another point.   Is it possible on the QS to
control envelope and oscillator >parameters via midi in real time?.  In the
global settings I see there are four assignable controlers how
>do these work?

Hi Jon,

You can assign controllers A to D (Quad-knobs) to four unused MIDI controller
numbers (ie. 12-15)
 in Global mode. Select a program, and in Edit mode choose controllers A-D as
"modulation source
1-4" and then pick a modulation destination for each of them. (There are 32
destinations, like
envelope, filter, LFO, pitch, portamento rate, effect send, etc.)
To control these parameters from Cakewalk, use  controllers 12-15. I have
those controllers assigned
to faders (in Faders view) for easy real-time operation.
If you need help, or step-by-step instructions, just let me know.

Les




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#: 461260 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Dec-95  04:24:43
Sb: #461230-QuadSynth & Sound Bridge
Fm: Jon Hill 70000,1314
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Thanks again les,  I'll have a go,  you can be sure I'll let you know if I
need more help.

Jon.

#: 461961 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    09-Dec-95  21:15:41
Sb: #Alesis Quadrasynth?
Fm: adam w. loomis 102261,2740
To: all

I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me if the Alesis Quadra Synth Plus
is a good synth....Please e-mail me at 102261,2740

thanks


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#: 462114 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    10-Dec-95  16:45:58
Sb: #461961-Alesis Quadrasynth?
Fm: Frank Marousek -Sysop 75300,2403
To: adam w. loomis 102261,2740

Hi Adam,

You might be interested in downloading the following file from the forumlibraries:

FILENAME     LIB  SIZE UPL DATE  DESCRIPTION
------------ --- ----- --------- ------------------------------------------
QUADSYNT.ZIP   2   13K 01-Nov-95 Thread capture on the Alesis Quadrasynth

#: 462135 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    10-Dec-95  17:42:34
Sb: #461961-Alesis Quadrasynth?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: adam w. loomis 102261,2740

>I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me if the Alesis Quadra Synth Plus
is a good synth...

It is. My all time favorite. Get one and have fun.

Les

#: 462067 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]

    10-Dec-95  12:40:24
Sb: SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: sysop (X)

i just bought an alesis qs6, a file on the forum (soundbridge) says it
requires a ram card to transfer data. cant samples be loaded into the unit (if
i dont yet hae a card?)
thanks

#: 463297 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Dec-95  13:24:22
Sb: #SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: [F] @All

i just bought an alesis qs6, a file on the forum (soundbridge) says it
requires a ram card to transfer data. cant samples be loaded into the unit (if
i dont yet hae a card?)
thanks

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#: 463320 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Dec-95  15:40:59
Sb: #463297-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Frank Marousek -Sysop 75300,2403
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337 (X)

Hi Stephen,

Your message was about to scroll off the forum without having received any
replies, so I forwarded it around to the front of the message base which will
give any other QS6 users here some additional time to hopefully reply.

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#: 463991 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Dec-95  18:18:27
Sb: #463320-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: Frank Marousek -Sysop 75300,2403 (X)

thanks

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#: 464414 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    21-Dec-95  12:56:17
Sb: #463991-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337 (X)

I recently bought a QS6 also, and my understanding is that you must use an
expansion card for downloading samples. Existing programs/mixes can be edited,
but downloading a new sound required a card. If you find otherwise, please
pass along to me.

Thanks,

Bill Draper

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#: 464892 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    23-Dec-95  15:06:28
Sb: #464414-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: Bill Draper 73672,216

no thats about it. Alesis says any PC compatible flash or sram card should
work.. although, type 1 cards are not easy to find. If i may keep your name on
file just in case i get stuck.. i would appreciate it. I am using midisoft
studio as a sequencer.
its a killer synth for the price though .! I REALLY wanted a roland xp-50, but
its $2500 taxes included (here in montreal).
have fun

#: 466087 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    29-Dec-95  15:03:22
Sb: #464892-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337

It's good to have others to talk to about equipment like this. I haven't
explored everything this keyboard has to offer, but I'm exploring some areas
quite a bit. I'm sure I'll have questions as I get stuck in new areas, and am
glad to share what I have learned. I'm still happy with it, and please keep my
name on file for questions/info.

thanks,

Bill Draper

#: 463687 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Dec-95  10:25:23
Sb: #463297-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337 (X)

Stephen,

Yes, it does require a PCMCIA RAM based card, per the specs in your QS6 manual
to load in new samples.  New patches can either be loaded into the User bank
(Does the QS6 have this bank as is in my QS+ Piano?) or onto a PCMCIA RAM
card.  I will also need to check my QS+ manual at home but I believe you
cannot install patch files and new samples on the PCMCIA RAM card at the same
time.  I wil need to verify for myself and you.  I need to get off my rear and
go through my extensive set of sample files and get some QS specific ones
created for the folks who have purchased a PCMCIA RAM card.  Other MIDI
projects have kept me very busy recently.

Craig Knouf

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#: 463994 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Dec-95  18:21:29
Sb: #463687-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

thanks craig. my synth is only 1 week old and i've just finished auditioning
the 400 odd patches. what a headache. now, i'll dig into the manual.
:)

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#: 464085 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Dec-95  05:33:42
Sb: #463994-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337 (X)

Stephen,

I have had my QS+ for 4 months and I still thoroughly enjoy auditioning my 508
patches (not to forget the GM bank) and 400 mixes.  The sounds are so clean
and the effects so helpful in conveying the musical meaning that I can only
say positive things about my current choice in keyboard synth.  Continue to
enjoy and in time you will get to the more complex aspects of your instrument.


Craig Knouf

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#: 464169 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Dec-95  14:15:33
Sb: #464085-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

>I have had my QS+ for 4 months and I still thoroughly enjoy auditioning my
508 >patches (not to forget the GM bank) and 400 mixes.

There should be 540 patches and 500 mixes in the QS+. And you can download

more from the Forum Library.

Les

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#: 464185 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Dec-95  15:30:32
Sb: #464169-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

I can't count can I.  With PRE 1 thru 4 plus the the User and the Mixes your
number correct.  Thanks for updating me.  I didnt swing chair around this
morning and turn
on my QS+ to get the correct count.  I'd like to see more patches made
available for the QS+, S4 and QS6.  Hopefully, there will be more activity out
on the Web if not here.

Craig Knouf

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#: 464890 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    23-Dec-95  15:02:26
Sb: #464185-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

thats interesting., maybe we must start a forum section of patches.,, or a web
site with links to patches for all instruments (whoa.... big job....). I'd be
interested in finding out where i could get the latest patches to download in.
!

#: 467481 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    05-Jan-96  19:50:41
Sb: #SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: Bill Draper 73672,216 (X)

thanks bill, i've just completed the first pass of the manual. It looks like
i'll be pulling out a few hairs on the effects setting. like how to add a
little reverb to a mix. Each program in a mix has its own effects settings and
it looks like you have to find your way around in the spaghetti-like caverns
of multi-heirarchical levels of settings to achieve anything.
I hear the dance card is super (if you into that stuff). Have you auditioned
any of the compatable quadrasynth cards ?
steve

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#: 468770 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    11-Jan-96  13:09:31
Sb: #467481-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337

Sorry for the late response, I usually check this forum about twice a week,
but have been so busy at work... I haven't checked into any of the cards, I
don't have a dealer in town. I have the opportunity to play with QS6 in bursts
it seems; I won't touch it for a few days, then I'll have a few hours that I
just don't get up from it. I've mostly been experimenting with MIDI and PC
interaction, but am interested in trying more of the effects and stuff. Let me
know if you come across anything interesting.

Thanks,

Bill Draper

#: 469153 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    13-Jan-96  08:46:12
Sb: #468770-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Bill Draper 73672,216 (X)

Bill and Stephen,

At least on my QS+ Piano, it has some problems in playing GM sequences, when
it is asked to set up the GM patches.  This is also noticable if a patch
change occurs within a sequence.  In fact, I believe it will not change to the
next patch while a sequence is playing.  I have not been able to determine
whether this is just bogging down in the MIDI pipeline on my system or
actually a response problem on my QS+.  I would like to hear from some other
QS+, QS6 and S4 users to see if they have similar problems.  On the quality
side of the sounds and the versatility of my QS+, I have absolutely no
negative comments.

Craig Knouf

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#: 469317 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    13-Jan-96  21:50:35
Sb: #469153-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

Craig,

I don't have any problems playing GM files, (good ones). If something sounds
funny, check
the MIDI file, you may find a lot of mistakes in there. If you want I can send
you a GM file that's
professionally sequenced, and sounds fine on my QS+, and you can check your
setup with it.

Les

#: 469683 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  08:31:40
Sb: #469153-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

While I don't have a large selection of MIDI files (mostly ones I've created
myself - strictly amateur), I've not had problems with my QS6 correctly
playing back the sequence. I will look for some of the things you've mentioned
and let you know if I come across any problems.

Bill Draper

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#: 469735 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  10:37:27
Sb: #469683-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Bill Draper 73672,216 (X)

Bill,

As I indicated to Les, I will send you also one or more of the offending GM
sequences via email.  Let me know how it works for you.

Thanks,
Craig Knouf

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#: 469963 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Jan-96  07:35:19
Sb: #469735-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

I'll try it tonight Craig & let you know.

Bill

#: 469733 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  10:35:18
Sb: #SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Though I have many hundreds of good or better, semi-professional or
professional GM sequences to deal with, it would be good to do a direct

comparison with the one you are talking about.  My criteria for problem
causing sequence types are the following:

        1.  A sequence, that the first event on multiple channels is a program
change.
        2.  A sequence that has a patch change in it, occurring somewhere
after the beginning measures.

In return, I will send you one of the offending, quality GM sequences I have.
I would like to report a clean bill of health here and blame the sequences but
at this point, my QS+ has the problems I mentioned.  My Korg O5R/W, K2000
(sold recently), and Multisound (Proteus 1XR) perform these sequences without
a hitch.

Please send me the sequence via email and I will send on via the same route.

Thanks,
Craig Knouf

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#: 469882 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Jan-96  21:04:22
Sb: #469733-#SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Craig Knouf 70003,1750 (X)

Craig,

The most common problem is the timing of MIDI events, if you open up the
offending files,
you'll probably see too many events jammed together. Patch changes, control
messages,
notes etc. I will email you a file that has all sorts of events, and still
works perfectly. Please
send me a trouble-maker, so I can look at it, and possibly fix it.

Les

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#: 469968 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Jan-96  08:03:30
Sb: #469882-SoundBridge to QS6
Fm: Craig Knouf 70003,1750
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Les,

Main point I need to make is that  the QS+ just does not react as quickly to
MIDI events as some other devices, I suspect.

Craig Knouf

#: 462136 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    10-Dec-95  17:47:32
Sb: #462067-soundbridge to QS6
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337

>i just bought an alesis qs6, a file on the forum (soundbridge) says it
requires a ram card to transfer data
>cant samples be loaded into the unit (if i dont yet hae a card?)

You need a card to store the samples. 

#: 463109 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    15-Dec-95  09:19:01
Sb: #462977-Alesis QS6
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Frederick Barthelme 76010,3602 (X)

I haven't looked for the patches yet, but good to know - thanks. Comes with
software for loading via sysex - have only used the sequencing software
(Cubase Lite) though. I don't have a PCMCIA card yet - maybe after Christmas
is paid off!!  No RCA audio inputs - the only inputs are MIDI and PC/Mac
serial.
My next purchases have to be amp. and speakers for it, so the PCMCIA cards
will probably have to wait.

Bill Draper

#: 463280 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Dec-95  11:21:09
Sb: #462977-Alesis QS6
Fm: Patrick E. Vaughn 75477,2646
To: Frederick Barthelme 76010,3602 (X)

The QS6 can accept any PCMCIA card that fits the stated specifications (can be
purchased from Alesis or from any 3rd party source).  No RCA input, and I
haven't tried out the patches yet.

Patrick

#: 463568 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Dec-95  22:16:31
Sb: #QS6/KT88/PC88
Fm: d ananda 103235,3067
To: All

I'm looking at the Alesis QS+ as a possible keyboard for my budding interest
in playing piano.  I've read the string of messages on the QS, and I'm
impressed.  I'm also looking at the Ensoniq KT88, but it is much more
expensive and includes a sequencer (though it's a bear to program) and the
Kurzweil PC88.  I'm looking for some quick opinions on these three
synthesizers--sound, feel, durability, flexibility, etc.  If you can, please
convince me to get the cheaper one. 

D 

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#: 463581 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Dec-95  23:19:41
Sb: #463568-QS6/KT88/PC88
Fm: Jeff Winston YC/Kurzweil 76464,215
To: d ananda 103235,3067 (X)

Depends - if you want a fully programmabel synthesizer, the PC-88 wasn't quite
meant for that (check our our new K2500, however).  However, for sounds
(strings, pianos, etc etc) and a REALLY good feeling keyboard, in a unit that
doesn't weigh that much - the PC-88 can't be beat - you can buy the base unit
and add a plypohny-doubler (with General Midi) card later, and it's a heck of
an excellent controller - we've really sold quite a lot of them
/j

#: 463583 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Dec-95  23:36:06
Sb: #463568-QS6/KT88/PC88
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: d ananda 103235,3067 (X)

D,

You just have to try them yourself. If you need piano-like keyboard action, go
with the PC-88, if you want great sounds, get the QS+. The best of both
worlds:
buy a used PC-88 and a used QS+ module. (around $1500 for both)

Les

#: 464748 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Dec-95  22:38:12
Sb: #463583-QS6/KT88/PC88
Fm: d ananda 103235,3067
To: Les 75671,2530

I'm still looking.  Thanks for the response.  And (to all of you out there
reading this), let me know if you hear of any used equipment.

D

#: 464639 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Dec-95  11:59:53
Sb: #Alesis QS6 - WOW!
Fm: Craig S Hanesworth 71043,1161

To: All

I went in the store and test drove the QS6 yesterday, and all I can say is
WOW.  For the price of $799, I don't know if there is a better bargain for the
buck out there.


Craig

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#: 464660 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Dec-95  14:00:20
Sb: #464639-Alesis QS6 - WOW!
Fm: Patrick E. Vaughn 75477,2646
To: Craig S Hanesworth 71043,1161 (X)

I recently bought one, and have nothing but good things to say about it.
Sounds great, well made, expandable, computer-friendly, etc. etc.

Patrick

#: 468010 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Jan-96  16:08:29
Sb: #QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: BOB CHADWICK 70411,112
To: ALL

would someone be so kind as to upload the Quadrasynth Plus User banks(mix and
program)? In foooling around with it when I first got it, I didn't realize
that patches sent from the Mac editor (Unisyn) were IMMEDIATELY written to
memory rather than the edit buffer as in most other synths.  Unisyn format
would be most helpful.

Thanks

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#: 468615 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    10-Jan-96  22:02:21
Sb: #468010-QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: BOB CHADWICK 70411,112

>would someone be so kind as to upload the Quadrasynth Plus User banks(mix and
program)?
>In foooling around with it when I first got it, I didn't realize that patches
sent from the Mac editor
>(Unisyn) were IMMEDIATELY written to memory rather than the edit buffer as in
most other
>synths.  Unisyn format would be most helpful.

 I use a PC, so if  sysex (.syx) or MIDI (.mid) format is ok, I can upload it
for you.

Les

#: 470083 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    16-Jan-96  18:05:31
Sb: #468615-QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652
To: Les 75671,2530

There is an Alesis Home Page on the Internet - I don't know the URL off hand
but you can find it using the Lycos search engine (http://www.lycos.com). I
used the keywords 'S4 alesis patches' and found it without too much trouble.
These are S4 module patches in .mid format so I am not sure whether they will
work on the Quadrasynth Plus!   There are about half a dozen including the
factory defaults.   Hope this is helpful.

#: 470336 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    17-Jan-96  19:58:54
Sb: #470083-#QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652 (X)

Thanks Dave, but I'm not the one who needs them, I'm the one who uploaded most
of the
available QuadraSynth patches (8 banks) right here to the Library. I have no
knowledge of any
more floating around the Net. Looks like there's already too many sounds
available, so no one
takes the trouble to create new ones.


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#: 470557 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Jan-96  19:02:12
Sb: #470336-#QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Cheers Les.  Judging by info on the Net, Alesis aren't interested inreleasing
any patches.
Incidentally, I have just downloaded Soundbridge which was programmed by
Alesis themselves (libraian/patch editor). However, it is for the Plus series
and I have a plain old S4.
Do you know of a librarian/patch editor for the S4 (other than Alesis
Quadrasynth V1.1 by Paul Swennenhuis (which I already have)?
Thanks.

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#: 470634 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Jan-96  01:53:58
Sb: #470557-#QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652 (X)

Hi David,

The only QuadraSynth Editor I know of is UNISYN, a commercial release
universal editor.
It costs around $200, so I haven't tried it yet. Check the MOTU section of the
vendor
forums, you may find someone who uses it.
You can upgrade your S4 to S4 Plus for a reasonable price. You get more wave
samples,
more banks, more and better sounds, GM, and the use of SoundBridge for
sampling.

Les


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#: 470766 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Jan-96  19:10:40
Sb: #470634-#QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Many thanks!

How do I go about upgrading?

David

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#: 470792 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Jan-96  21:53:12
Sb: #470766-#QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652 (X)

> How do I go about upgrading?

Call your local Alesis dealer (or authorized service center) and ask them
about availability,
then make an appointment and take or send it in. If you don't know any
dealers, email to Alesis
for info ( alecorp@alesis1.usa.com ) The PLUS upgrade for the S4 costs $199,
it includes
installation, (parts and labor) a new Manual, and the SoundBridge software. I
think it's worth
every penny.
Let me know if you need any more info

Les

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#: 470869 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Jan-96  10:24:48
Sb: #470792-QuadSynth + banks wanted
Fm: DAVID C M. SKELTON 100654,652
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)


Many thanks

I'll see what I can do.

David
 
#: 470504 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Jan-96  15:03:51
Sb: #QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613
To: all

The Alesis QS6 is a relatively new synthesizer. It's hard to get information
about it, but so far to me, it seems to have good sounds, a good keyboard, and
it can play samples uplaoded via the PC-interface. But in this forum there is
nearly no discussion about it. So I'd like to know, is it worth buying it or
not?

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#: 470517 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Jan-96  16:08:09
Sb: #470504-#QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Frank Marousek -Sysop 75300,2403
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

Hi Wolfgang,

I think there has been a lot of discussion recently here about the QS6.  If
you are visiting the forum for the first time, you may have just missed it. I
think some of the "SoundBridge to QS6" thread is still on the forum if you'd
care to try to retrieve it.

In any case, I'm sure the QS6 users here will jump in shortly.

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#: 471663 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    23-Jan-96  18:16:50
Sb: #470517-QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Stephen s. Rudolph 74363,2337
To: [F] Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

well, i'm jumping in now. just bought one after selling my yamaha sy55. The 64
voice polyphony makes a difference when you are using a sequencer. My first
composition is using 17 tracks. and i still don't get cut off notes... now
only if I could figure out that EFFECT processing. a bit confusing. Adding a
little reverb to a program in a hurry is not suggested. !

#: 470535 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    18-Jan-96  17:04:52
Sb: #470504-#QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

Wolfgang,

Alesis synthesizers are in the "Best Buy" category, they offer the most
features for the least
amount of money. If you like the sounds and the feel of the keyboard, there is
no reason not
to buy it. I haven't heard any QS6 owners complaining so far, they are quite
happy with their
synths. I use the 76 key version, (QS+) and I have a lot of fun playing it.
If you need any specific info, just ask

Les

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#: 470892 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Jan-96  12:08:42
Sb: #470535-#QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Hi Les,
thanks for your input
>. I use the 76 key version, (QS+) <
Les, the QS+ seems to be not available over here (Germany). Is the extended
keyboard the only difference?

Wolfgang Kirchhoff

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#: 470928 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Jan-96  15:59:12
Sb: #470892-QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Les 75671,2530
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

>Les, the QS+ seems to be not available over here (Germany). Is the extended
keyboard the
>only difference?

Hi Wolfgang,

There are more control knobs on the QS+, but I believe it's the same inside
(sounds, FX, etc)
If you can't get the QS+, the QS6 is a good substitute, and a lot cheaper.

Les

#: 470897 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Jan-96  12:19:52
Sb: #470535-#QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613
To: Les 75671,2530 (X)

Hi Les,
thanks for your input
>. I use the 76 key version, (QS+) <
Les, the QS+ seems to be not available over here (Germany). Is the extended
keyboard the only difference?

Wolfgang Kirchhoff

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#: 471344 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Jan-96  14:39:04
Sb: #470897-QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Robert "Robby" Wachtel 100023,2335
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

I think the QS+ Les mentioned is the QuadraSynth Plus (Piano). It's also
available here in Germany, of course.

I just bought the QS6 2 weeks ago for home use and it's great to work out
ideas.

Robby

#: 470689 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Jan-96  09:28:34
Sb: #470504-#QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

Hey, I'm a QS6 owner & here's my input: You get a lot of keyboard for the
money, the keys have a better than average feel for synths in this price
range, sounds are about as good as any keyboard in this range (some sounds are
better, some not as good - true with all of them), it's expandable (many in
this price range are not), it comes with pretty good software (many do not).

I shopped for keyboards in this range for quite some time and looked/listened
to ALL of them. I bought this one. There is no clear runaway winner in this
price range, however there are several very good keyboards that all have their
strong and weak points. So it really does matter what your
needs/desires/tastes are. While I love music, I'm not an accomplished
musician. I came at my decision from more of a techno-toy standpoint. If this
is your interest, this keyboard is hard to beat. If you're more of a musical
purist, give up some features and consider something else (like a good MIDI

controller,etc.).

Hope this helps. Also, there is a growing number of QS6 owners in this forum.

Bill Draper

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#: 470891 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    20-Jan-96  12:08:37
Sb: #470689-#QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613
To: Bill Draper 73672,216 (X)

Hi Bill,
thanks for your following statement
>. I came at my decision from more of a techno-toy standpoint. If this is your
interest, this keyboard is hard to beat. If you're more of a musical purist,
give up some features and consider something else (like a good MIDI
controller,etc.).<
In deed techno is not my interest and I'm at least sort of musical purist
rather. So, what's wrong with QS6 and musical purists? - if you might help me
with this?
Wolfgang Kirchhoff

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#: 471282 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    22-Jan-96  09:12:18
Sb: #470891-QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Bill Draper 73672,216
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)

Not being a musician, I may be missing some disadvantages or I just may be off
base altogether, but here's my perception: The keys are not true weighted keys
(they call it semi-weighted, which is better than most!). To get a real piano
feel, I think you have to go to a separate keyboard controller and a separate
synth module. This is true of all the 'integrated' synths in this price range.
The QS6 has a high quantity of sounds and effects, but a more specialized
synth can have better sounds in certain areas (such as string, brass, etc.)
while maybe not having as many sound capabilities. I still think they're all
(in this price range anyway) a trade-off - one may have better piano sounds
but inferior strings, etc. These can be subjective areas though, so you need
to listen to them all very carefully. Overall I don't think there's anything
fundamentally wrong with the QS6 and musical purity, but it seems as though
the QS6 is trying to appeal to more of a broad market rather than to, say
someone looking for the best piano sounds and feel over all else. To say I'm
not a musical purist does not imply I'm not demanding of quality of sound
though, it just means that I'm willing to make tradeoffs in certain areas to
get some features that are important to me and my uses.

Hope some of these ramplings help.

Bill Draper

#: 470692 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    19-Jan-96  09:32:49
Sb: #470504-QS6 - worth it's money?
Fm: Patrick E. Vaughn 75477,2646
To: Wolfgang Kirchhoff 100440,613 (X)


Wolfgang,

I've had my QS6 for about 2 months, and I'm thrilled with it.  Great sounds,
good semi-weighted keyboard, very computer-friendly, expandable via plug-in
cards, 64-voice polyphony, comes with CD-ROM full of useful software, solid
all-metal construction, good user manual, and great price.  I'm sure you'll
hear similar comments from the other QS6 owners that I've seen on this forum
from time to time.  While the Korg X5 is comparable in price and sound quality
(and is a nice synth), it has fewer sounds, no keyboard weighting, 32-voice
polyphony, and is not as solidly constructed (though this makes it a little
more portable).  Highest praise for the QS6!

Patrick

#: 474889 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Feb-96  03:19:03
Sb: #Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8
Fm: Greg White 76116,3717
To: All

I was pretty set to dump some change on the QS+ synth, then read about the
*All New* QS8  in a NAMM report.

Does anyone have any details on this great new synth?

It supposedly retails for $1995.00

Greg

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#: 474956 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Feb-96  10:23:28
Sb: #474889-#Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8
Fm: Doug Silvermaster 103433,3233
To: Greg White 76116,3717 (X)

Greg,

I have seen the spec sheet on the QS8 as well as talked to someone who was at
NAMM and saw the board.  They said it is more like the QS6 then the
Quadrasynth Plus. (in features and patch sets)  So if your looking for
something kind of in-between the QS and the QS6, sounds like the QS8 is your
piece.

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#: 475034 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    06-Feb-96  17:06:53
Sb: #474956-#Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Doug Silvermaster 103433,3233 (X)

>I have seen the spec sheet on the QS8 as well as talked to someone who was
at NAMM and saw the board.  They said it is more like the QS6 then the
Quadrasynth Plus. (in features and patch sets)  So if your looking for
something kind of in-between the QS and the QS6, sounds like the QS8 is your
piece.<

The only differences I understand between the QS+ and the QS6 are the number
of keys, controllers (the four quad knobs), and the size of the rom block of
samples onboard - (24 meg on the QS+, 8 meg on the QS6).  Do these
differences hold true for the new QS8?  (ie, the only difference being the
number of keys on the QS6 v. QS8?)

Ian

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#: 475139 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    07-Feb-96  02:01:56
Sb: #475034-Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8

Fm: Greg White 76116,3717
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

I'm going to visit my local store tomorrow, (probably get *something*) - I'll
let you know if I get any more info on the wide-ranging QS line.

Greg

#: 475276 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    07-Feb-96  17:21:51
Sb: #475034-#Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8
Fm: Doug Silvermaster 103433,3233
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Ian,

You might be right there.  I have to say tho, when I played the QS6 it didnt
seem to have the "presence" of my QS+.   THe patches didnt feel as warm or
rich.  Could be psychological!  Wouldnt be the first time.  Going to be
talking to Alesis today (about the ADAT), will ask them to list differences
and will post for you if no one has by then.


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#: 475476 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Feb-96  13:45:31
Sb: #475276-#Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8
Fm: Ian Kelk 73750,1307
To: Doug Silvermaster 103433,3233 (X)

> You might be right there.  I have to say tho, when I played the QS6 it
didnt seem to have the "presence" of my QS+.   THe patches didnt feel as warm
or rich.  Could be psychological!  Wouldnt be the first time.  Going to be

The patches probably do not have the same richness - I have not actually
heard the QS6 but I do know it has 8 megs of ROM compared to 24 on the QS+
(although 8 of those 24 megs contain the Stereo Grand Piano).  So as far as
other patches (effects, drums, other instrumments, as well as the synth
sounds) probably sound more "full" than those on the QS6.  I don't know
anything about the QS6's effects, but the QS+ basically contains a quadraverb
2 effect processor (the QS6 may too - I don't know).  In any case, I prefer
the QS+ for the keyboard and controllers, as well as the great piano sound.

Ian

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#: 475495 S2/Synths/Samplers  [MIDIFOR]
    08-Feb-96  15:09:29
Sb: #475476-Alesis QS+/QS6/QS8
Fm: Doug Silvermaster 103433,3233
To: Ian Kelk 73750,1307 (X)

Ian,

For the money, I dont think there is any other choice. (Although my Trinity
has it beat!)  But I still find myself going back to the QA+ for the Piano
and some of the strings and percussion stuff.  Mix mode is wonderful as well!
Question tho:  I havent been able to use the QS+ as a controller for my
Trinity.  I think I have the Trinity set up properly, but I cant seem to
figure out to send on the right channels from the QS+. ANd I have already
RTFM !   It was late last night tho, maybe that was it!