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I want to do something which I thought should be relatively simple.
Using Performer, I want to use my Mac to bring up specific programs or
mixes.
Now you would think that you simply had to send the sysex for either a
program or mix
mode, then send the bank select and program change info and you'd be all
set.
I'm trying to determine if what I want to do is even possible without
having to actually
edit global data via sysex.

I have to set the Global MIDI-Prog value to MIDI-MIX-SEL:(some channel) to
get the QS to respond to the
mix that I want to use via midi.  All fine and dandy.

Now when I send the sysex down to change to program mode, the QS will
change modes,
but won't respond to the bank or patch change messages.

If I turn the Global MIDI-PROG value to MIDI-PROG-SEL:ON, then the programs
can be selected via controller 0
and a patch change, but I can no longer select the mix I want.

The manual on pg. 117 seems to indicate that if you are changing mixes via
midi, you can't do
normal patch changes and vice versa.

If this is the case then I'm going to have to send midi edit commands via
sysex to change the
global MIDI parameters before I go to a mix or program so I can select the
appropriate mix or
patch.  

Please tell me I'm just missing something obvious and there is a simple way
to do this.

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I think I stumbled across a workaround for my problem.
By just totally ignoring the program mode and using ONLY mix mode.
I changed one of the user mixes to only use 1 midi channel.  I set the
mix-select channel to 16
and sent the bank and mix select down channel 16. This selected the bank
and mix I wanted.  Then, I sent a 
bank and patch change down channel 1 to pull up the bank/patch I wanted
from the program banks.  I set the effects
channel and modes to use the programs effects.
Sounds pretty much the same as just picking the straight program patch.

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From drdav3@teleport.com  Tue Apr  1 10:14:10 1997
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Hello....

Last month I wrote asking for help with a peculiar MIDI echo problem I was
having with my QS6 and my Mac-based sequencer.  I was getting a severe
phase distortion, especially on MIDI sequenced mixes.

Someone recommended that I set my global keyboard mode to OUT 1.  This
worked like a charm.  Thank you.


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From ppp067c@main.citynet.net  Tue Apr  1 11:40:48 1997
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Greg Stritmater wrote:

>	Does anyone know if there's a way to write samples to a RAM card
>directly from a PC (either laptop or desktop with a PCMCIA drive)? I'd
>love to be able to grab samples off my sampler via scsi to my computer and
>throw them right onto the RAM card instead of dealing with slow serial
>transfers (I know it's better than midi, but I'm impatient) So how about
>it, could this be possible, or not really worth the trouble? 

I know that on the MAC, the Soundbridge software allows you to create an 
"image" file that saves the sample data in standard Motorola ram card 
image format.  I would think that with the proper software and burner, 
that you could write the image directly to the card via the computer.

Just my 2 cents.....

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From jperser@airmail.net  Tue Apr  1 12:33:37 1997
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Anyone use a worm drive in your PC to write audio CDs?
If so do you have brand recommendations?
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From james@innocon.com  Tue Apr  1 14:51:59 1997
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I recently bought a QS7.  (As people here who advised me may remember,
I also considered the QS8, but didn't want to carry it everywhere.)
So far I'm thrilled with the sound -- especially the piano!  It looks
like I will be able to do everything I need in just this one keyboard.

My girlfriend and employer aren't so thrilled that I'm not giving them
the proper attention....

I'm a little concerned about the keys themselves.  As other QS owners
have written, a few keys rattle when I hit them too hard.  This is
distracting and makes me worry about durability.  I cranked the global
keyboard sensitivity setting from 68 (I think) to 90 so I wouldn't
need to hit them so hard.  I guess this will make quiet passages even
harder to render than they are now.  Wasn't there a discussion a while
back about how to change the program to get softer attacks at low
velocities?  I wish I'd paid attention.

I assume there's a good reason the QS7 factory default was "weighted"
rather than "plastic," so I didn't mess with that parameter too much.
The manual's description of this setting seemed vague to me -- could
someone elaborate?  We should put this kinda stuff in the FAQ.

I've never played an aftertouch keyboard before, but I'm having a hard
time getting smooth transitions from it.  The amount of modulation
seems to jump as I apply pressure gradually.  Also, I'm not sure how
much pressure it's safe to apply.

The CD-ROM is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

The CD jacket refers to MiBac music instruction software (for PC and
Mac) which I didn't find on the disk with my PC.

As far as I can tell, two sequencers were provided: demo versions of
CuBase and Rhythm Brainz.  This is all new to me, so bear with me.
Rhythm Brainz seems best suited to repeating patterns like drums.  We
have a real drummer, so learning this program is on the back burner
for now.

For my immediate applications I'd like to work with a sequencer that
displays sheet music.  CuBase does, but it attempts to display an
entire track on one staff rather than a grand staff with bass clef and
treble clef.  You get a zillion ledger lines when you play with two
hands.  Anyone know a fix for this?  

Is it cheating to use sequences during live performances?
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From ranand@almaden.ibm.com  Tue Apr  1 19:18:12 1997
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> I assume there's a good reason the QS7 factory default was "weighted"
> rather than "plastic," so I didn't mess with that parameter too much.

I changed this parameter so many times, but somehow I don't find any
perceptible difference when I play piano. Comments ???

> The CD-ROM is a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

Well it was projected to be the selling point by at least the
salesperson that sold me this keyboard.

> For my immediate applications I'd like to work with a sequencer that
> displays sheet music.  CuBase does, but it attempts to display an
> entire track on one staff rather than a grand staff with bass clef and
> treble clef.  You get a zillion ledger lines when you play with two
> hands.  Anyone know a fix for this?

In Score view chose split and set the split to a key that falls between
the left and right hand notes. Now the Score view will have a grand
staff.. you can also set the Key signature and time signature by
clicking on the clef symbols...

> Is it cheating to use sequences during live performances?

In my opinion, it's alright to use the sequences live, as long as they
are written by you and the audience does not believe that they are
listening to something recorded..

Rajiv
ranand@usa.net
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From rds@zk3.dec.com  Wed Apr  2 09:01:36 1997
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Nat,

   Once you have sorted through the responses, would you mind posting a
summary to the list?  I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in the
advice
you've collected...

	Rick


Nat Wisdom wrote:
> 
> I want to thank everyone who responded, either through the mailing 
> list or in private E-mail, to my post regarding a live performance audio 
> system for the QS8.
> 
> I'll be answering each response individually over the next week or so.  
> In the meantime, thanks again--I'm glad I took the opportunity to subscribe 
> to the QS list.
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> Regards,
> 
> Nat
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From jperser@airmail.net  Wed Apr  2 11:38:12 1997
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Well somehow (evidently a small child came in contact with it) my volume
knob has a problem.  Instead of being the nice flat planar rotation when I
turn it, it wobbles on it's axis.  I'm wondering if anyone knows the inner
workings of these things well enough to tell me if I've got a problem I can
live with for a while or whether the things not going to last a week.  

My guess is the pot mount inside is broken letting it wiggle around.
Is this a 'user' repairable item?


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From james@innocon.com  Wed Apr  2 12:36:24 1997
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(Thanks for the advice, Rajiv.)

New QS7 discoveries:

If you add a (user) program to a mix, then change the program, the
changes aren't reflected in the mix unless you "relink" the program to
the mix (edit the mix again and select the same program).  I haven't
read the whole QS7/8 manual yet, but I thought I read it was the other
way around in the S4+ manual.  

I appear to have run out of polyphony already!  Last night I noticed
bass notes disappeared and the metronome click sometimes dropped out
after adding a big stack of FourHorns, TrumpetEns, piano, and organ
chord hits.  I'm using a mix with six programs... if each program had
four "sounds" that should still be only 24 voices (worst case, not
counting any overlap), right?  24 goes into 64 more than twice, and I
don't think I have that much overlap in the sequence.  Maybe I'm
running into a CuBase or SoundBlaster16 limitation.

The brass programs above are great, but I'm missing "BrassPows" from
the S4+ (and QS+).  I loved the way those horns slid off at slightly
different times.

Simple program and mix editing isn't TOO bad on the tiny display.  The
S4+ had a better display, but the QS7 has all those buttons to switch
pages more easily.  

As Paul warned, the demo version of QE on the CD-ROM seems to have
some trouble with the QS7.
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From ranand@almaden.ibm.com  Wed Apr  2 14:03:46 1997
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Hi All,

Is there a way to have a metronome on QS7... It's such a pain to switch
on my computer, lauch the sequencer, everytime I want to play/practice
my piano lessons...

any ideas guys ??

Rajiv

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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Wed Apr  2 16:12:18 1997
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At 12:36 PM 4/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>(Thanks for the advice, Rajiv.)
>
Snipped...

>I appear to have run out of polyphony already!  Last night I noticed
>bass notes disappeared and the metronome click sometimes dropped out
>after adding a big stack of FourHorns, TrumpetEns, piano, and organ
>chord hits.  I'm using a mix with six programs... if each program had
>four "sounds" that should still be only 24 voices (worst case, not
>counting any overlap), right?  24 goes into 64 more than twice, and I
>don't think I have that much overlap in the sequence.

Snipped s'more.

James, 

You were right as far as you went, but the 24 voice worst case figure from
your calculation is PER FINGER!

The magic word is chord hits - if you play the hit with two hands (even
assuming an octave spread in the left, which is my own weakness), then that
one hit, assuming 6 notes on a 6 program mix, would use a minimum of 36
single voices [at six per finger - 6x6x1]. 

But if what you're playing is actually a layered hit - say even just a four
note cluster - on six programs in a mix using four each, that would be 4
(notes) x 6 (programs) x4 ("sounds") = 96 voices used.  No wonder the bass
gets robbed!

So if each finger down on a six instrument mix reduces your polyphony by
between 6 and 24 voices, you can easily see how a thick hit (or an
accidental overlap) would leave you with nothing left to play the remaining
tracks in your sequence.

Welcome to remedial math.  :]  (sometimes you just can't win)

Now for the good news.  From what you say, the voice-robbing is not too
terrible, so the sequence is probably not too thick, and the programs
average less than 4/per.  And on the bright side, you now know where the
too-thick portions are - some event editing or revoicing that mix might free
up enough polyphony to get through with with full chord voicings.

You might try using the GM voices, since they are not as resource hogging as
the "custom" programs in the other banks.

Good Luck,

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From vincents@harbornet.com  Wed Apr  2 16:21:31 1997
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I'm sure you know about this already, but you might possibly have a midi
feedback loop happening, triggering the same sounds twice... just a thot.
Steve

At 12:36 PM 4/2/97 -0500, "Michael D. James" <james@innocon.com> wrote:

>I appear to have run out of polyphony already!  Last night I noticed
>bass notes disappeared and the metronome click sometimes dropped out
>after adding a big stack of FourHorns, TrumpetEns, piano, and organ
>chord hits.  I'm using a mix with six programs... if each program had
>four "sounds" that should still be only 24 voices (worst case, not
>counting any overlap), right?  24 goes into 64 more than twice, and I
>don't think I have that much overlap in the sequence.  Maybe I'm
>running into a CuBase or SoundBlaster16 limitation.


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From james@innocon.com  Wed Apr  2 17:01:23 1997
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Bill wrote:
>
> You were right as far as you went, but the 24 voice worst case figure from
> your calculation is PER FINGER!
>
[clip]

Ooops, you're right.  You guys are great.  It's just like me to forget
that I have more than one finger.

Guess I'll have to throttle back a little to do the whole sequence on
one synthesizer.
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I hooked up my new QS8 serial port to my PC, loaded the driver on the
CD-ROM, and tried to start Cakewalk Pro Audio 4.5.

Severe crash and burn!

This driver version is dated 9/6/96 and there is a version on the web dated
a month later which I haven't got yet.
Has anyone had this problem or does anyone know if the later version works?

I checked for IRQ and I/O conflicts and found none.

Any ideas?

Other than this problem, I'm in love with my new machine.  But I haven't
tried the sysex stuff yet (obviously), and I can sometimes get dependant on
sysex just for some cheap Friday night thrills.

Ted Hyatt

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From senip@j51.com  Wed Apr  2 19:57:51 1997
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> 
> I know that on the MAC, the Soundbridge software allows you to create an 
> "image" file that saves the sample data in standard Motorola ram card 
> image format.  I would think that with the proper software and burner, 
> that you could write the image directly to the card via the computer.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.....
> 
> -------------------------     
>       Kurt Knopp
> mailto:kknopp@citynet.net
> ------------------------- 
> 

	Thanks for the info. I haven't gotten my QS8 yet, but I WILL have
one before April is over! That is if there's one availible in my area ;)
Seriously, I can't wait to get it, and actually put the sampler I have to
use. Maybe my first project will be sampling the Fender Rhodes that I
can't fit in my room. (or else I'd play that instead) 

					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
> Yes.  The envelopes have four modes:  Normal, Reset, Freerun, and
> Reset-Freerun.
> Consult yer manual for specifics.
  These modes relate to keyed triggering,
> though...if you want non-keyed retriggering, that too is possible, but a
> touch more difficult, depending on the application.

Does anyone know how to do non-keyed re-triggering? I don't think the
envelope trigger
is a destination for any modulation source, so I can't see how. 
  The closest thing is the strummed mandolin and the helicopter. But the
mandolin has a looped envelope built in to the sample, and the
helicopter uses LFO's, but it's not a re-trigger, just the envelope of
the LFO's. in other words, if you want a more complex envelope than a
square, sawtooth, triangle, or sine, this won't work.
  i think I'll have to always do it with a midi file or somehow edit the
samples
to loop them. 
  Does anyone have any other ideas?

Thanks, Omar Bose

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From Ksandin@aol.com  Wed Apr  2 23:44:04 1997
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In a message dated 97-04-01 16:18:46 EST, you write:

<< I'm a little concerned about the keys themselves.  As other QS owners
 have written, a few keys rattle when I hit them too hard.
 I cranked the global
keyboard sensitivity setting from 68 (I think) to 90 so I wouldn't
need to hit them so hard >>

Rattle?Like a spring kind of sound? That would be an indication of the
springs not being seated correctly or worn from heavy usage, I believe. And
an indication of the keyboard using Fatar action. That is what's going on
with my classic Quadrasynth upgraded Plus Piano, but only after a few years
and sleepless nights pounding out sequences. Even the "other" brands of
keyboards that get used a lot at my place of employment,GC, do this.
As far as the sensitivity goes, I have spent lots of time with it. There must
be some magical trick that dB hasn't told us yet. I thought the QS8 would be
different with the weighted action but it wasn't. Give us graphical
representation of velocity curves and the display off of the QSR. Whoever
came up with the little specs to represent MIDI channels should be
__________, IMO. Fill in the blank to your liking.
Aftertouch sensitivity can be changed within the program editing of the
LFO's, which ever one PLFO,FLFO, or ALFO is being used. It is kind of tricky
at first to get the feel of aftertouch. "The Feel of Aftertouch" wow, a new
song/album title! 

Kman
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In a message dated 97-04-02 13:02:07 EST, you write:

<< My guess is the pot mount inside is broken letting it wiggle around.
 Is this a 'user' repairable item? >>
Don't you just love that BIG volume knob? I thought it was a turntable
scratch controller at first glance.
Let me ask you, Did you ever take apart electronics devices as a younger
person? If so it might be OK, as long as you think you know what your doing
and don't mind giving up your warranty, if still applicable. If not then you
might want to contact your local service center. I would contact them for
advise on what not to do when you have the keyboard apart if you plan on
doing the work.

Kman

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From donovan@kcstar.com  Thu Apr  3 00:58:38 1997
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>Is there a way to have a metronome on QS7
>any ideas guys ??

Buy one and set it on top?

Sorry, but I've been sequencing drum tracks all day long.  As you can see,
my brain is fried.

D

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From y94emala@und.ida.liu.se  Thu Apr  3 01:23:17 1997
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Hi!

I once heard a K2000 seller say:
"I have run out of polophony on every synth I tried but never on the 
K2000."
Sure, I thought.

Some days ago I talked to a salesman on the general agency.
He said that QS7 had some way to never run out of polophony.
It have 64 voice polophony but somehow notes would never disappear if 
you use more than that. They will still sounding.

Is this just bullshit to convince buyers or is there something part 
of it that is true?

The general agency allso said they don't sell QS7 anymore. Only QS6 
and QS8. Is the QS7 no longer manufactured?

/ Em
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl  Thu Apr  3 07:00:34 1997
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# Datum verzending: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:25:29 -0500 (EST)
# Does anyone know how to do non-keyed re-triggering? I don't think the
# envelope trigger
# is a destination for any modulation source, so I can't see how.
#   The closest thing is the strummed mandolin and the helicopter. But the
# mandolin has a looped envelope built in to the sample, and the
# helicopter uses LFO's, but it's not a re-trigger, just the envelope of
# the LFO's. in other words, if you want a more complex envelope than a
# square, sawtooth, triangle, or sine, this won't work.
#   i think I'll have to always do it with a midi file or somehow edit the
# samples
# to loop them.
#   Does anyone have any other ideas?

Omar,

I see two ways, though neither of them can be called truely retriggering
(therefore the samples themselves should have configurable trigger points)

1. Map the tracking generator to the destination you want to trigger (I'd
suggest one of Amp, Filter or Pitch) and set the Tracking Points to
alternating low and high points, to your liking.

2. Use the technique described in my tutorial that comes with QE 2.0:
- set one of the controllers A thru D to a MIDI controller number you don't
use for other purposes, eg 2. I assume you know how to do this.
- map this controller to Amp, Filter or Pitch in the modulation matrix
- use your sequencer (Cubase, Cakewalk, whatever) to draw controller events
for this controller in a separate track
- let this track loop
- play!

I hope this helps

Paul


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From rds@zk3.dec.com  Thu Apr  3 07:15:56 1997
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I'm not clear on exactly what you want to do, but it sounds like you
may be able to use the Tracking Generator to handle your triggering
and re-triggering for you.

Check out the Master Class page on the Alesis website. It discussed
the Tracking Generator as an arpeggiator, but you may be able to apply
some of the concepts to your problem.

http://www.alesis.com/alesis/services/notes/Keyboard/qsmaster.html

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From etra@icsa.com.pe  Thu Apr  3 09:23:00 1997
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Hi, I have a QS6 but I would like to buy another keyboard. Does anybody
could tell me how many presets and mixes have the QS7 and QS8?. Some of them
have the same problem of only one efect for the entire mix. How about the S4+?.
Thanks

Stuart.

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From waara@ess.mc.xerox.com  Thu Apr  3 09:37:44 1997
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On  2 Apr 97 Ted had this to say about Serial Port Driver Crashing 
Cakewal:

>I hooked up my new QS8 serial port to my PC, loaded the driver on the
>CD-ROM, and tried to start Cakewalk Pro Audio 4.5.
>
>Severe crash and burn!
>
>This driver version is dated 9/6/96 and there is a version on the web dated
>a month later which I haven't got yet.
>Has anyone had this problem or does anyone know if the later version works?
>

I used the serial driver from the CD in Cakewalk 3.01 without any 
problem.  You didn't say exactly what happened.  Did you not get any 
response?  Did Cakewalk GPF?  Did Windows crash?  BTW, is this with 
Win 95 or 3.1?

One thing to check is the global setting 'Input/Output Mode'.  If 
you're using the serial driver, you have to set it to either "PC 
38.4kbaud" or "PC 31.25kbaud" depending on the speed of your serial 
port.  

Personally, I ended up using the MIDI setting and connecting it to my 
MOTU Midi Express PC Notebook for ease of routing.  I might use the 
serial interface if I start getting into sample creation with 
Soundbridge.
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Thu Apr  3 12:02:41 1997
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In a message dated 4/3/97 1:15:17 AM, y94emala@und.ida.liu.se (Emanuel
Larsson) wrote:

<<I once heard a K2000 seller say:
"I have run out of polophony on every synth I tried but never on the 
K2000.">>
As a former Kurzweil employee, this is nothing short of complete nonsense.
 The K200 is a 24 voice synth, and is almost always stacked three layers
deep, which makes it an 8 voice.  You can run out of polyphony with two
chords on one patch.

<<Some days ago I talked to a salesman on the general agency.
He said that QS7 had some way to never run out of polophony.
It have 64 voice polophony but somehow notes would never disappear if 
you use more than that. They will still sounding.  Is this just bullshit to
convince buyers or is there something part of it that is true?>>
This is also a bit exaggerated....nothing *never* runs out of polyphony.
 However, we do have a parameter called Sound Overlap (per layer) that lets
the user control how the unit steals notes, and it makes it very difficult to
hear notes stealing.  I find it to be the best synth engine I've ever worked
with in that respect.  I'm hardly objective, though.

<<The general agency allso said they don't sell QS7 anymore. Only QS6 
and QS8. Is the QS7 no longer manufactured?>>
*Who* told you this?  QS7 is certainly not discontinued, nor will it be for
quite some time.  Please forward me the name, and I'll be glad to straighten
them out.

dB
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Alesis Synthesizers


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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Thu Apr  3 12:04:14 1997
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In a message dated 4/3/97 8:11:53 AM, etra@icsa.com.pe (Etramsa) wrote:

<<Does anybody
could tell me how many presets and mixes have the QS7 and QS8?>>
Same as the 6 - 640 programs, 500 mixes.  Double the sound ROM and outputs,
though...plus dig. out, 4 sliders, and two cards slots....and another pedal
jack.

<< Some of them
have the same problem of only one efect for the entire mix.>>
Sigh...it's not one effect, it's one effect *algorithm*...you can use up to 8
effects across 4 discrete buses per mix.  Takes some work to master, but it's
pretty easy once you get it.

<< How about the S4+?.>>
S4+, besides being identical in architecture to the QS6, 7, and 8 has been
discontinued.  We now have QSR, which is the exact same as QS7/8.

dB
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From akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr  Thu Apr  3 12:38:37 1997
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Hello,

I've Just added an S4 Plus to my setup. I will not share any thoughts
on it since that is not the intent of this message.
Here is the problem I have:

I want to use my Quadrasynth (v1.03) as a controler so I made a sillent
mix with 16 full range layers for this purpose. The thought was that
if I control one S4+ program then it will respond to only one channel and
all the rest will go to "null", if I control an S4+ two channel mix only
the two programs will play, etc.

The silent mix has all the programs disabled, while "Midi in" and "Keyboard"
are off for all channels. Only "Midi out" is activated in all 16 layers.

The problem is that when I use this arragement on the Quadrasynth to
play a single program on the S4+ I face voice robing, while on the other
hand, there is no such problem when using program mode on the Quadrasynth.

I am lead to believe that allthough there should be no polyphony issue
on the Quadrasynth since no sound is playing, it considers midi messages
to be eating up voices, so when the "note on" messages exceed 64 it starts
robbing. 
I can't rule out the possibility that I am not seting properly the S4+ but
I am new to the machine and I cannot be sure about anything.

Is there anything I can do to make this work properly, or is there something
I am overseeing here? If not, is this a v1.03 bug, or is it a Quadrasynth
feature in general?

Any ideas?

Kind Regards,

Thanos
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From linar@task.mcst.ru  Thu Apr  3 12:41:04 1997
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> << How about the S4+?.>>
> S4+, besides being identical in architecture to the QS6, 7, and 8 has been
> discontinued.  We now have QSR, which is the exact same as QS7/8.
> 
 Is QSR have exactly the sample sounds as QS7/8?
 AFAIK, QS7/8 have not 8M stereo grand piano (correct me, please,
 if i made a mistake). So, only 8M in QSR memory dedicated to other
 instruments. It is not worth to make lowest and highest octave sounds good for
 synthezers without keyboard.

 Comment, please. 

   Linar.
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From vincents@harbornet.com  Thu Apr  3 12:53:32 1997
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I just want to express my THANKS to all who make this forum work.  I've been
(and still am) an active contributor to the Ensoniq forums (EPS Digest,
Transoniq Hacker), and I am finding the same degree of openness and sharing
of tips, suggestions, etc. here.  I am a new (since Oct.) owner of a QS7
which i love, and although i'm probably an "expert" synthesist and hacker, I
find the interface a bit kludgy and daunting (compared to the friendly
Ensoniq U.I.'s).  But the info I get here has already proven invaluable, and
without question increases the value of these great instruments!  just
today, the "news" that i'm not sentenced to "one effect across an entire
mix" is music to my ears, and will be immediately applied in my studio!

Thanks again, everyone.  
Steve

p.s. my $.02 worth regarding the QS CD-ROM:  this was a *major* selling
point to me.  I would not have purchased my QS7 (great as it sounds) without
the ability to load my own samples and play back sequences.  IMO it's not a
"bonus" but part of the synth.

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From alevin@mail.nj.com  Thu Apr  3 13:29:31 1997
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On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 4/3/97 1:15:17 AM, y94emala@und.ida.liu.se (Emanuel
> Larsson) wrote:
> <<I once heard a K2000 seller say:
> "I have run out of polophony on every synth I tried but never on the 
> K2000.">>
> As a former Kurzweil employee, this is nothing short of complete nonsense.
>  The K200 is a 24 voice synth, and is almost always stacked three layers
> deep, which makes it an 8 voice.  You can run out of polyphony with two
> chords on one patch.

Don't get too trigger happy, now.  I used to own a Korg X2 (32 note poly).
When I would play big chords in big combis (that's what they call mixes),
I would run out of poly.  You could tell, because the oldest note would
cut out, even if it was important.  If you hit a note repeatedly, you'd
hear it cut eventually.  

I got the QS8, and it's an amazing improvement.  It's got a very
intelligent algorithm that keep important notes, bass notes, and doesn't
cut out repeated notes.

I'll be honest, though:  the Kurzweil K2000 is just as good.  I've got a
three layer pipe organ that I play Bach on (six fingered chords in each
hand, folks).  Granted some notes are missing (obviously) when you hit a
big chord, but the voice stealing is almost perfect -- I've never heard an
ungainly steal.

I'd say the two synths are about equal as far as how they sound regarding
stealing, because it's much harder to get the QS8 to have to steal (64
voice, donchaknow).  

> <<The general agency allso said they don't sell QS7 anymore. Only QS6 
> and QS8. Is the QS7 no longer manufactured?>>
> *Who* told you this?  QS7 is certainly not discontinued, nor will it be for
> quite some time.  Please forward me the name, and I'll be glad to straighten
> them out.

Go get 'im, Dave!  :)



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In a message dated 4/2/97 10:53:48 PM, senip@j51.com (Greg Stritmater) wrote:

<<Maybe my first project will be sampling the Fender Rhodes that I
can't fit in my room. (or else I'd play that instead) 
>>

You may actually be surprised at the quality of the onboard Rhodes
programs...in addition, the Rhodes samples and programs on the Vintage Keys
card are pretty impressive - they're the first 15 programs on the card.

dB
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In a message dated 4/3/97 12:41:51 AM, donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
wrote:

<<Buy one and set it on top?>>

Funny...the same answer occured to me....

dB
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In a message dated 4/2/97 4:04:56 PM, wbaker@nkf.com (William Baker) wrote:

<<Now for the good news.  From what you say, the voice-robbing is not too
terrible, so the sequence is probably not too thick, and the programs
average less than 4/per.  And on the bright side, you now know where the
too-thick portions are - some event editing or revoicing that mix might free
up enough polyphony to get through with with full chord voicings.
>>

As a rule, the biggest villian in voice stealing is quantization.  Whenever
possible, either avoid doing this, or (if your sequencer allows this), only
quantize by a percentage other than 100%.  

My $.02

dB
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Thu Apr  3 14:08:58 1997
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In a message dated 4/3/97 11:22:15 AM, linar@task.mcst.ru (Linar Yusupov)
wrote:

<<> << How about the S4+?.>>
> S4+, besides being identical in architecture to the QS6, 7, and 8 has been
> discontinued.  We now have QSR, which is the exact same as QS7/8.>> <>>

 <<Is QSR have exactly the sample sounds as QS7/8?>>
AS I said above, the QSR's sound set is *exactly* the same as the
QS7/8...same exact sound ROM, same exact programs in the same exact
locations.  Hopefully, this is clearer than my last message.

 <<AFAIK, QS7/8 have not 8M stereo grand piano (correct me, please,
 if i made a mistake).>>
You have made two mistakes.
1)  The big true stereo Bosendorfer piano in the Quadrasynth plus Piano was
never 8 meg, it is slightly bigger than 7 meg.  There has been some confusion
because when this sample was originally released, it was on an 8 meg card for
the original Quadrasynth, and it contained other samples - so it was the 8
meg stereo piano *card*, not an 8 meg sample.  
2) The same sample definitely resides in the QS7/8 *and* the QSR, although
the sample playback rate was very slightly reduced so it would fit in these
units - it is now just a bit below 7 meg.
The S4+ *never* had the big Bosendorfer sample.

 <<It is not worth to make lowest and highest octave sounds good for
 synthezers without keyboard.>>
This is completely incorrect - suppose the person buying the QSR connects it
to an 88 key MIDI keyboard?  It would be foolish of us to assume what
configuration of keyboard potential end-users would be connecting to the QSR,
don't you think?

dB
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From james@innocon.com  Thu Apr  3 14:31:46 1997
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Kman wrote:
> Rattle?Like a spring kind of sound? That would be an indication of the

Yeah.  (Maybe I should sample the sound...)  But only when you hit the
suspect keys pretty hard.  All I know is my Roland piano could take
that kind of abuse without rattling.  I'd rather just whine about it
than send my beloved new toy to the shop.


Steve wrote:
> p.s. my $.02 worth regarding the QS CD-ROM:  this was a *major* selling
> point to me.  I would not have purchased my QS7 (great as it sounds) without
> the ability to load my own samples and play back sequences.  IMO it's not a
> "bonus" but part of the synth.

I agree that being able to load samples is important.  But the ability
to burn FlashCards predates the CD-ROM.  SoundBridge has been free on
the web since before I got my S4+.  (I think the demo QE is on the web
too.  Maybe even a newer version with QS7/8 fixes?)  Since I'm less
interested in sequencing (until now, perhaps) the CD wasn't a major
factor in my choice.


Adam wrote:
> I got the QS8, and it's an amazing improvement.  It's got a very
> intelligent algorithm that keep important notes, bass notes, and doesn't
> cut out repeated notes.

Then why did the QS7 steal my bass notes instead of the horn layers?
Or maybe it's already stealing more than I realize and only stole the
bass when it got really desperate....
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>  AFAIK, QS7/8 have not 8M stereo grand piano (correct me, please,
>  if i made a mistake). So, only 8M in QSR memory dedicated to other
>  instruments. It is not worth to make lowest and highest octave sounds
good for
>  synthezers without keyboard.

I think it's a 7 megabyte stereo grand piano sample... and the QS7, QS8,
and QSR all have it.

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From ChristmannM@mail.dec.com  Thu Apr  3 17:32:01 1997
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When I use my sequencer to record/play using for example, True Stereo,
the program doesn't sound quite as good as when playing the same program
without the use of the sequencer.  True Stereo sounds slightly
distorted, reminiscent of the midi feedback loop that is caused by
failing to set Keyboard Mode to OUT1, though not that severe.  

I'm using QS7, Freestyle 1.05 for Windows, AWE32 midi port.  Here are
the steps I take:

1. Set QS7 to User Mix 00
2. Start Freestyle, and open file with True Stereo as the piano
'player'.  This action will cause the QS7 keyboard mode to be switched
to OUT1.
3. At this point, I press the Page buttons and see that True Stereo is
on Channel1, and the Metronome sound is on channel 2.
4. Press Mix, Edit, Effect, change FX Midi Channel to 1, then press Mix
again.
5. Push Mod Wheel and slider A up to my liking.

At this point, it's close, but no cigar.  What am I failing to do?

As a get around, I've been using the above procedure to get things
sequenced, then when I want to record a piece to tape, I just set the
QS7 to Program P1 00 (True Stereo) instead of putting it in a Mix, then
start FreeStyle and TrueStereo sounds fine.  But obviously this way I
can't hear the metronome for sequencing purposes.

Mark Christmann
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> As a rule, the biggest villian in voice stealing is quantization. 
Whenever
> possible, either avoid doing this, or (if your sequencer allows this),
only
> quantize by a percentage other than 100%.  

How does that work?  If notes aren't quantized, how are voices conserved?

Tom
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From elson@westworld.com  Thu Apr  3 21:17:29 1997
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Wonder if any QS6/7/8 programming aces could help out.

I have my own collection of Hammond-B3-style patches on my QS6. I want to
use Aftertouch to act like a volume pedal, so when I press down on the
keys, it gets louder. Currently, I route one of the mods for each Sound set 
to have the Amplitude respond to aftertouch, but it has no effect. Though,
when I set the sensitivity level to "-99"
I get the opposite - The volume goes *down* as I press harder. I want it
the other way around, but setting it to "99"
has no effect on the sound. What could I do?

Thanks

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From zalkae@rs3.szif.hu  Fri Apr  4 01:20:27 1997
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Patrick J. Waara wrote:

> One thing to check is the global setting 'Input/Output Mode'.  If
> you're using the serial driver, you have to set it to either "PC
> 38.4kbaud" or "PC 31.25kbaud" depending on the speed of your serial
> port.

Don't forget to switch the "Mac/PC" switch to "PC". It's located
on the rear side of the QS6.

My QS6 was connected to a notebook via serial, the QS6 was
switched to "Mac" mode, and my Win95 didn't start!

I'm using Alesis Serial Driver downloaded from the web, and
I had never problems w/ it.

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From donovan@kcstar.com  Fri Apr  4 01:38:57 1997
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Tom asked,

>How does that work?  If notes aren't quantized, how are voices conserved?

I believe what Dave meant is that when you quantize, you end up layering
note upon note to be played at **exactly** the same time, which can result
in voice robbing.  When you record to a sequencer in real time, you'll
almost never hit 2 notes at exactly together.

I really need to jump into the fray here on the K2x00 thread, too.  Kurzweil
stuff is fine and the filters are great, but the machines are still 24
voices.  And the effects are very limited in comparison to the QS.  (And I
hate the ROM, though that's subjective.)  Sorry to any Kurzweil lovers out
there, but I somehow think that some users' slavish devotion to them is a
way to rationalize the fact that the gear costs so much more than the
competition.  Reminds me of the "nothing sounds like a 303" crowd.

AND as an Ensoniq ASR-10er, I like the QS+ interface about the best of any
synth I own.  I end up forgetting what's a command and what's an edit
parameter on the ASR.  Anyhoo...

Derek

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Elson Trinidad wrote:
 
> use Aftertouch to act like a volume pedal, so when I press down on the
> keys, it gets louder. Currently, I route one of the mods for each Sound set
> to have the Amplitude respond to aftertouch, but it has no effect. Though,
> when I set the sensitivity level to "-99"
> I get the opposite - The volume goes *down* as I press harder. I want it
> the other way around, but setting it to "99"
> has no effect on the sound. What could I do?

Maybe your Amplitude Level is on the max value: -99 can decrease it,
but +99 can't increase, because the max level is already reached.

Is it right?

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From linar@task.mcst.ru  Fri Apr  4 04:58:09 1997
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	Hi, Dave!

> 
>  <<Is QSR have exactly the sample sounds as QS7/8?>>
> AS I said above, the QSR's sound set is *exactly* the same as the
> QS7/8...same exact sound ROM, same exact programs in the same exact
> locations.  Hopefully, this is clearer than my last message.
> 
I am sorry. I could not suppose that you will get it so close
to your heart. Really sorry!

>  <<AFAIK, QS7/8 have not 8M stereo grand piano (correct me, please,
>  if i made a mistake).>>
> You have made two mistakes.
> 1)  The big true stereo Bosendorfer piano in the Quadrasynth plus Piano was
> never 8 meg, it is slightly bigger than 7 meg.  There has been some confusion
> because when this sample was originally released, it was on an 8 meg card for
> the original Quadrasynth, and it contained other samples - so it was the 8
> meg stereo piano *card*, not an 8 meg sample.  
> 2) The same sample definitely resides in the QS7/8 *and* the QSR, although
> the sample playback rate was very slightly reduced so it would fit in these
> units - it is now just a bit below 7 meg.
> The S4+ *never* had the big Bosendorfer sample.
> 
OK

>  <<It is not worth to make lowest and highest octave sounds good for
>  synthezers without keyboard.>>
> This is completely incorrect - suppose the person buying the QSR connects it
> to an 88 key MIDI keyboard?  It would be foolish of us to assume what
> configuration of keyboard potential end-users would be connecting to the QSR,
> don't you think?
> 
 
I said this as conclusion of the sentence "QS7/8 may be do not have 8MGP sample
-> QSR, as they say, have it ->  overall the QSR patch set may be reduced version of QS7/8 -> which way?: sampling rate? - no, waves modification? - no,
may be, 'good-sound-range' splitting?". I am glad, that I have mistaken.

But now, i still disappointed by this:

QS7/8,QSR have 16M onboard patches	= 7M piano + 9M of others
QuadraSynth Plus Piano, 	24M!	= 8M piano + 8M of others + 8M of what?
S4 Plus, 			20M 	= ?M piano + 8M of others + ?M of what?
QS6, 				8M 	= piano+others

And all they above have "640/500" patches/mix set! :-)

May be you will add you answer in your Web FAQ. For such novices as me.

	Regards!
	Linar.
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My description of Freestyle distorting the sound of True Stereo snipped.
>
>As a get around, I've been using the above procedure to get things
>sequenced, then when I want to record a piece to tape, I just set the
>QS7 to Program P1 00 (True Stereo) instead of putting it in a Mix, then
>start FreeStyle and TrueStereo sounds fine.  But obviously this way I
>can't hear the metronome for sequencing purposes.

For the record, this get-around doesn't work - I must have stayed up too
late.

Last night I found a get-around that does work - after I finish my
sequencing, from Freestyle I save the file as a .mid file, then use
Freeloader for playback.  Everything sounds great using Freeloader.  I
guess it's time for me to send this problem to Mark of the Unicorn.

Mark Christmann 

>
>
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On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Michael D. James wrote:
> Adam wrote:
> > I got the QS8, and it's an amazing improvement.  It's got a very
> > intelligent algorithm that keep important notes, bass notes, and doesn't
> > cut out repeated notes.
> Then why did the QS7 steal my bass notes instead of the horn layers?
> Or maybe it's already stealing more than I realize and only stole the
> bass when it got really desperate....

I don't know -- maybe you're right and it is stealing more than you
thought.  With four voices possible per program, it's easy to get carried
away and not realize how many sounds you are using total.

-Adam


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On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Derek Donovan wrote:
> I really need to jump into the fray here on the K2x00 thread, too.  Kurzweil
> stuff is fine and the filters are great, but the machines are still 24
> voices.  And the effects are very limited in comparison to the QS.  (And I
> hate the ROM, though that's subjective.)  Sorry to any Kurzweil lovers out
> there, but I somehow think that some users' slavish devotion to them is a
> way to rationalize the fact that the gear costs so much more than the
> competition.  Reminds me of the "nothing sounds like a 303" crowd.

I own a K2000RS.  I think the factory ROMs leave a lot to be desired.  I
also think they are a bit overpriced (I got mine on super-sale when the
K2500's came out, and it was much more reasonable).  The effects are, in a
word, terrible, especially compared to the QS quadraverb effects.  But,
I think that the third party sounds are some of the best sample stuff I've
ever heard, and the programmability can't be beat.  As I've said
previously, I've never noticed a difference in "only" having 24 voice
poly, because it's done intelligently.  Still, I wouldn't want to compose
symphonies on the thing.

> AND as an Ensoniq ASR-10er, I like the QS+ interface about the best of any
> synth I own.  I end up forgetting what's a command and what's an edit
> parameter on the ASR.  Anyhoo...

The QS series is one of the easiest synths I've ever used -- a very
intelligent layout.  The Kurzweil has one of the steepest learning curves
out there, but there's a list like this one, and plenty of web pages (like
our Quadrasynth pages!).  From what I've seen, Alesis and Kurzweil have
some of the best online support in their user communities, and Alesis'
online support from the company is barnone the best, IMHO.

-Adam


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Etramsa wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I've heard about a piano course on CD ROM of Herbie Hancock.
> Anybody know something?. Thanks.
> 
> Stuart.
> 
Saw the details of this CD-ROM in April 1997 issue of Keyboard magazine.
Thought you might like to know.

It's called 'Herbie Hancock presents Living Jazz'. This is a CD-ROM from
Graphix Zone and "features rare footage of an informal jam sesion with
Charlie Parker, a never-before-released performance by Art Tatum, a 1938
interview with Jelly Roll Morton and clips of Herbie Hancock, Carlos
Santana and Wayne Shorter. The disc also contains numerous interviews
with and performances by a Who's Who of jazz luminaries." Unquote
Keybpard Magazine.

I hope this is the same CD-ROM you are talking about.

Cheez
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From etra@icsa.com.pe  Fri Apr  4 11:39:57 1997
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Hi, thanks for answer my mail, but I think it's not the same CD ROM. A
friend of mine who lives in San Francisco told me that Herbie Hancock
teached piano in a CD ROM course. The kit included a basic electronic
keyboard and 5 or 6 CD ROM to learn how to play.
I've tried to find something by surfing the web, but nothing happened.
Anyone knows something?
Thanks,

Stuart.




At 23:16 4/04/97 +0800, you wrote:
>Etramsa wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I've heard about a piano course on CD ROM of Herbie Hancock.
>> Anybody know something?. Thanks.
>> 
>> Stuart.
>> 
>Saw the details of this CD-ROM in April 1997 issue of Keyboard magazine.
>Thought you might like to know.
>
>It's called 'Herbie Hancock presents Living Jazz'. This is a CD-ROM from
>Graphix Zone and "features rare footage of an informal jam sesion with
>Charlie Parker, a never-before-released performance by Art Tatum, a 1938
>interview with Jelly Roll Morton and clips of Herbie Hancock, Carlos
>Santana and Wayne Shorter. The disc also contains numerous interviews
>with and performances by a Who's Who of jazz luminaries." Unquote
>Keybpard Magazine.
>
>I hope this is the same CD-ROM you are talking about.
>
>Cheez
>

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Steve Vincent wrote:

    just
  today, the "news" that i'm not sentenced to "one effect across an
  entire
  mix" is music to my ears, and will be immediately applied in my
  studio!

This was the entire reason that I purchased my S4.  I had recently
bought a Roland M-GS64.  I foolishly believed that since my old U-110
could layer different sound on top of each other that the new Roland
would do the same.  NOT!  I was pretty upset when I saw that not only
could I not layer sounds like I wanted (being a guitarist, I am used to
the guitar multi-effects processors where layering of effects is the
whol purpose).  Not only that, but each patch had certain "Sub- patches"
and when I changes Patch 25 (for example) to use sub-patch #8 instead of
the normal patrch, it switched sub-patches on ALL sounds.  In fact,
EVERY setting that was changable on the unit was a GLOBAL setting.  That
REALy annoyed me.   The store where I bought the unit (Rhythm City in
Atlanta, Ga) refused to let me return the unit, even though it had only
been turned on twice.  They told me that I could return it the next week
providing that I had my reciept and ALL paperwork.  When I returned to
the store they refused to let me return (the offered me $200 for the
unit as a "used" unit when I had bought  there lass than two monthes
previously for over $500!).  I did a little research and found the the
Alesis S series would allow the layering of sounds to create new ones,
so I went out and bought that unit immediately.  The sounds are just as
good or better than the Roland, and there is MUCH more that I can do
with it.  The Roland does have much better "SFX" sounds than the Alesis
though.

Anyone want to buy a Roland M-GS64?  $400

Later,

Alex F

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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:

  You may actually be surprised at the quality of the onboard Rhodes
  programs...in addition, the Rhodes samples and programs on the
  Vintage Keys
  card are pretty impressive - they're the first 15 programs on the
  card.

Is there a text file somewhere that lists all of the cards, and what
sounds are on them?

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From waara@ess.mc.xerox.com  Fri Apr  4 13:33:07 1997
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I've been having fun playing with the various mixes on the QSR, and 
sometimes while doing so, I come up with some cool ideas that I would 
like to capture in my sequencer.  My question is, what settings do 
I need to capture in my sequencer to recall the mix automatically? 

For example, I know I need to have a sysex command that puts the QSR
in mix mode, and I will have to send messages to select the desired
bank and mix, but what else do I need? What global settings need to
be set, and do I have to download a sysex for all the settings, or
can each be altered via control messages? Is there anything else?

I'd like to create a template in Cakewalk with all the settings I 
need to quickly recall a mix.  Then I can open a new one of these, 
enter the bank and mix number, and press record.

On a similar note, does anyone know of a way to create an instrument 
definition in Cakewalk that references the mix names?  This question 
can be answered in private mail if it is not appropriate for this 
list.  (I didn't get a response from the Cakewalk list.)

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Herbie Hancock stars in a TV commercial
for the new version of the Miracle Piano
teaching system.

(I think he does advertising - no teaching.)

Go to www.jumpmusic.com 

Dave

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On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:24:01 -0500 (EST) Etramsa <etra@icsa.com.pe>
writes:
>Hi everyone, I've heard about a piano course on CD ROM of Herbie 
>Hancock.
>Anybody know something?. Thanks.
>
>Stuart.

The software is called "Piano Discovery Software" and is available with
or without a small midi keyboard. The software alone requires a midi
keyboard and a midi cable. If your local dealer can't find or get it for
less than $80, let me know. I can get it for about $80 plus shipping.
This is the same software that is advertised on TV with Herbie Hancock.
It is an expanded form of what used to be the Software Toolworks Miracle
Piano software.
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Fri Apr  4 15:02:06 1997
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I'm confused about the recent statements of Kurzweil K2000 polyphony
being 24.  I'm not familiar with the spec. of the K2000 but the K2500
has 48 note polyphony, presumably double that of the K2000?  At first
this sounds less than the 64 of the QS series but the K2500 has 4
oscillators per note ( a total of 192 oscillators!).  So only for the
simple case of no layering does the QS beat the Kurweil on polyphony.
If 2, 4 or 4 oscillators are layered then the Kurweil has more polyphony
than the QS.

Steve

P.S.  I own a QS8 not a K2500.
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  >Etramsa wrote:
  >>
  >> Hi everyone, I've heard about a piano course on CD ROM of Herbie
  Hancock.
  >> Anybody know something?. Thanks.
  >>
  >> Stuart.
  >>
  >Saw the details of this CD-ROM in April 1997 issue of Keyboard magazine.
  Thought you >might like to know.

  Or perhaps you are thinking of the beginner's piano course which Herbie
  Hancock
  demos on infomercials. Herbie Hancock didn't design the course nor does
  he appear
  in the CD. It's called Piano Discovery (www.jumpmusic.com). For a review
  see
  http://www.unm.edu/~loritaf/pnopdsr.html. The program is related to an
  earlier
  program "Miracle Piano System", that was described somewhat in Noah
  Adams' book Piano Lessons --- Music, Love, and True Adventures.



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> 
> You may actually be surprised at the quality of the onboard Rhodes
> programs...in addition, the Rhodes samples and programs on the Vintage Keys
> card are pretty impressive - they're the first 15 programs on the card.
> 
> dB
> Alesis

	Are the Vintage Keys and Vintage Synth cards out yet? I just may
have to have my music store order up a card or two along with my QS8. I'd
love to hear the Rhodes and Wurly's on the new card, I was quite happy
with the default Rhodes sound, but it lacked a little bit of extra bite
that the real thing has. 

					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From wmb3963@usl.edu  Fri Apr  4 15:29:03 1997
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Hi everybody!

I am having trouble getting Cubase to change banks on my QS6.
It will change patches, but not banks using the inspector.


I am using the synth in Multi-tam mix mode (User 00) and trying to assign
patches from  several different banks to the tracks.

Any suggestions?

PS. I am using Cubase light currently.

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From dave@beaux.atwc.teradyne.com  Fri Apr  4 17:32:33 1997
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I have been fooling around with the on-board samples, and I'm a little
puzzled by something.  Some samples have a quite noticable change in
sound as you move from one section of the keyboard to another.  For
example, the 'Guitar/SteelStrng' sample has a softer sound up to A#2,
and then at B2 it has more of a steel sound.  Another 'sound transition'
occurs from D#3 to E3.  Why is this?  I would have expected the same
sound throughout the entire range.


Dave Funk                        Internet: dave@atwc.teradyne.com
Teradyne, Inc.
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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Fri Apr  4 19:19:52 1997
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Etramsa wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I've heard about a piano course on CD ROM of Herbie Hancock.
> Anybody know something?. Thanks.

Stuart,
As others have said, i don't think HH teaches in the discovery system,
and it's for beginners.
He put out some CD's "living jazz", a history of jazz, but I've heard
they weren't very good (probably early cdrom tech).

If you already play, and want to learn more jazz, go to:

	http://www.ohio.net/~osvaths/

	This is Jenny's Jazz forum. It's great! Check out
	the jazz tip of the week archives. More than you could
	learn in a year!
	And the links have more!
Omar Bose


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From cheezie@pacific.net.sg  Fri Apr  4 22:59:08 1997
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Omar Bose wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: Herbie Hancock
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 05:19:48 -0700
> From: Omar Bose <obose@ix.netcom.com>
> To: Etramsa <etra@icsa.com.pe>
> References: <199703311829.KAA05579@icsaserver>
> 
> Etramsa wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, I've heard about a piano course on CD ROM of Herbie Hancock.
> > Anybody know something?. Thanks.
> 
> Stuart,
> As others have said, i don't think HH teaches in the discovery system,
> and it's for beginners.
> He put out some CD's "living jazz", a history of jazz, but I've heard
> they weren't very good (probably early cdrom tech).
> 
> If you already play, and want to learn more jazz, go to:
> 
>         http://www.ohio.net/~osvaths/
> 
>         This is Jenny's Jazz forum. It's great! Check out
>         the jazz tip of the week archives. More than you could
>         learn in a year!
>         And the links have more!
> Omar Bose
> 
>
While we're on this subject of learning to play jazz or any kind of
music or instrument, has anyone tried the Phil Woods Jazz Masterclass
CD-ROM? I've read good reviews about this CD-ROM and was wondering if
it's worth trying it out for about US$100 dollars. Or has anyone tried
the Dick Grove School of Music correspondence course? Thanks all.

Cheez
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Fri Apr  4 23:13:25 1997
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Dave sed:

>Some samples have a quite noticable change in
>sound as you move from one section of the keyboard to another.

This is the nature of sample-playback in general.  To grossly simplify,
let's say the folks at Alesis sampled a single instrument playing 4
different notes.  Then each of the four samples is assigned a finite range
on the keyboard.  The first sample plays back on notes from A0 to A2, and
sample 2 takes over from Bb2 to A4, etc.  This gives you a more accurate
sound across the whole range an instrument is capable of playing.  If you
sampled a piano at middle C, then just slowed this same sample down to give
you the C three octaves lower and sped it up for 3 octaves higher, it
wouldn't sound very realistic at all at these extremes.

Anyhow, to make it short, you're hearing the switch from the highest note
one sample plays to the lowest the next one plays.  Does that make sense at
all?  Smooth transitions between samples are really difficult for some
(most?) acoustic instruments.

D

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From ACaron7747@aol.com  Fri Apr  4 23:34:37 1997
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I think Rajiv asked about how to do a metronome on a QS (sorry I lost the
original message). It's easy:
Use the delay effect with  feedback at 99 (as brilliantly introduced by
Adrian Wagner in his patch Jazz<>Loop):
Set a portion of your keyboard (or even just the lowest or highest note) to a
drumstick sound, patch it to the delay and set the feedback to 99. Adjust the
speed by varying the delay time, voila!

Antoine W. Caron
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From gum!mwhe@zilog.com  Sat Apr  5 09:57:52 1997
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In regards to the current go around concerning the Kurzweil vs. the QS
series keyboards......Several years ago I was the proud owner of a K1000...
mostly I bought it because the of the realistic piano patches..but actually
found it pretty easy to work with once I got into the layering aspect of
things. I recently bought a QS6 , really for the same reason...I like to
have something I can carry that really sounds like a piano...and actually
found that the K1000 was more user friendly than the QS6...however, once I
got into the programing and figured it out, it wasn't that tough. I realize
this has nothing to do with the original question, but I just wanted to
throw in a few comments....by the way...getting all of this E-mail has
really been helpful. I've had my QS6 for about 3 weeks and so far I love
it...and have learned a ton of stuff from this forum....thanks.

                                   Mark Whetstine mwhe@zilog.com
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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr  5 10:11:06 1997
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I got a 256k ram card. I believe this doesn't have any samples on it,
is this true? Since I have a QS8, I would like to play with the
programs & mixes. 
Is there a way to find out what voices it was using on the Quad/s4,
so I can substitute S8 voices?

Thanks, Omar Bose

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From dlmoore@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr  5 11:17:07 1997
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Derek Donovan wrote:
> 
> Tom asked,
> 
> >How does that work?  If notes aren't quantized, how are voices conserved?
> 
> I believe what Dave meant is that when you quantize, you end up layering
> note upon note to be played at **exactly** the same time, which can result
> in voice robbing.

That does not work as an explanation either. However, I think
what Dave probably meant was that if you quantize out to (say)
crotchets then notes that were shorter than this, say semi-quavers,
would now be much longer and therefore you could end up with
too many notes-on at once.

This would mainly apply to short sounds, since expanding short
notes to long notes will make huge differences to how the piece
sounds.
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From dlmoore@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr  5 11:32:26 1997
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Dave Funk wrote:
> For
> example, the 'Guitar/SteelStrng' sample has a softer sound up to A#2,
> and then at B2 it has more of a steel sound.  Another 'sound transition'
> occurs from D#3 to E3.  Why is this?  

Oddly, enough, I was fooling around with this just last night. For some
reason the factory patch has some of the voice ranges limited. If
you go into edit and select AMP/range (80) you can change this yourself.
On the QS8, the transition somewhere round G4 is quite ugly (hey, there
had to be a trace of ugliness somewhere, so as not to offend God by
pretending to perfection, right?)
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From james@innocon.com  Sat Apr  5 17:25:38 1997
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Another key on my new QS7 is acting up.  This time it's not just an
occasional rattle, it's a high-pitched squeak nearly every time I hit
the C two octaves above middle-C.  I'm reluctant to send it in for
warranty repairs if these kinds of things are inherent in Fatar
keyboard mechanisms.  Has anyone else noticed squeaky keys?  Is there
anything *I* can do to lubricate it or whatever without voiding the
warranty?  It only started squeaking this morning -- maybe it will go
away....  It's such a shame because the piano sound is so gorgeous.
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From james@innocon.com  Sat Apr  5 18:00:19 1997
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(Don't mean to sound like a whiner, but the squeak is a high enough
frequency to cut through every other sound at a normal listening
level.  And this IS a musical instrument.)
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From nivek@pcez.com  Sat Apr  5 19:17:26 1997
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I've been using my QS+ with my desktop, and working great with Cakewalk, 
but when I tried doing it from a laptop, it didn't work.

Does anybody know why I get the "Audio device failed to initialize" error 
when trying to use Cakewalk Pro Audio 4.0 on a Winbook laptop, running 
Win95, which uses the ESS Audiodrive soundblaster compat card.....???

Is there some goofy driver I need to get, or would the problem be fixed 
in an upgrade of Cakewalk?

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-Chris
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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr  5 20:42:59 1997
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does anyone know how to move a voice sample from the QS8 to computer,
and what program I could use to edit it? I have stuff to edit "wav"
files.
Thanks
Omar Bose

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From ArtCore_1@msn.com  Sun Apr  6 15:09:34 1997
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Hey Chris.

It has been my experience that ESS audio systems rarely run any audio 
sequencers.  While these systems usually handle games and multimedia pretty 
well, audio sequencers seem to be too much for them to handle.  Sorry to break 
the bad news to you.  If you can get it to work please let us know.

Boris
Alesis

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I've been using my QS+ with my desktop, and working great with Cakewalk, 
but when I tried doing it from a laptop, it didn't work.

Does anybody know why I get the "Audio device failed to initialize" error 
when trying to use Cakewalk Pro Audio 4.0 on a Winbook laptop, running 
Win95, which uses the ESS Audiodrive soundblaster compat card.....???

Is there some goofy driver I need to get, or would the problem be fixed 
in an upgrade of Cakewalk?

Please reply via private email...
-Chris
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From ArtCore_1@msn.com  Sun Apr  6 15:38:00 1997
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I have been fooling around with the on-board samples, and I'm a little
puzzled by something.  Some samples have a quite noticable change in
sound as you move from one section of the keyboard to another.  For
example, the 'Guitar/SteelStrng' sample has a softer sound up to A#2,
and then at B2 it has more of a steel sound.  Another 'sound transition'
occurs from D#3 to E3.  Why is this?  I would have expected the same
sound throughout the entire range.


Dave Funk                        Internet: dave@atwc.teradyne.com
Teradyne, Inc.


Hey Dave.

The thing that causes these changes you hear is called multisampling.  When we 
sample a sound for a keyboard we sample several notes across the range of the 
keyboard.  If we just used one sample for the whole sound it would sound very 
unnatural in the higher and lower registers.  Acoustic instruments can have a 
very different overtone-structure in different ranges.  The change you hear is 
when the samples switch.
With current technology it is cost-prohibitive to sample every single note of 
an instrument (maybe next century).  A QS8 would need a sound ROM of appr. 200 
gigabytes as opposed to 16 megabytes.
While I believe that we have done an excellent job in masking those 
transitions you can never get a flawless transition from one sample to another 
(even if you sampled every note).  You might notice that while you can hear 
the change if you play the two notes at the break repeatedly, it is usually 
almost inaudible if play 'normal' music.  (OK guys!  Let's NOT start a 
discussion on what 'normal music' is .. :-) 

Hope that answers your question.

Cheers, 

Boris Wiedenfeld
Alesis Corp.
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From: "Boris Wiedenfeld" <ArtCore_1@msn.com>
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From: 	Patrick J. Waara
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I'd like to create a template in Cakewalk with all the settings I 
need to quickly recall a mix.  Then I can open a new one of these, 
enter the bank and mix number, and press record.

The template is already there.  The settings for "Alesis Quadrasynth" work 
perfectly for the QS6-7-8&R.  Just chose "get Mix Edit Buffer"

On a similar note, does anyone know of a way to create an instrument 
definition in Cakewalk that references the mix names?  This question 
can be answered in private mail if it is not appropriate for this 
list.  (I didn't get a response from the Cakewalk list.)

Settings - Assign Instruments - Define Instruments - New     you do the typing

Hopefully, I have made myself clear.
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Hope that helps.

Boris
Alesis
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 17:22:46 1997
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In a message dated 4/3/97 7:35:27 PM, tom@trends.ca (Tom Klepl) wrote:

<<How does that work?  If notes aren't quantized, how are voices conserved?>>

Because when a lot of voices hit at exactly the same millisecond, synths are
forced to make a choice.  When they're varied (even slightly), synths are
usually able to deal with them better.  Also, in a great many instances, the
attack portion of the sample is the most important part...if you get that in,
you're fine.  Try it - you may be surprised.

dB
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 18:09:03 1997
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In a message dated 4/4/97 10:24:05 AM, Brain21@brain21.net (Brain21) wrote:

<<Is there a text file somewhere that lists all of the cards, and what
sounds are on them?
>>

Unfortunately, no.

dB
Alesis
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 18:09:14 1997
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In a message dated 4/4/97 12:50:02 AM, elson@westworld.com (Elson Trinidad)
wrote:

<<Currently, I route one of the mods for each Sound set 
to have the Amplitude respond to aftertouch, but it has no effect.>>

Try setting Velocity value to minimum in the Amp/Range menu for each layer.
 That'll probably do it.

dB
ALESIS
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 18:09:17 1997
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In a message dated 4/4/97 4:00:09 AM, linar@task.mcst.ru (Linar Yusupov)
wrote:

<<I am sorry. I could not suppose that you will get it so close
to your heart. Really sorry!
>>

I didn't mean for it to sound as if I was offended...quite the opposite.  I
thought I had just been unclear...it is I who is sorry if I came off sounding
harsh.

<<QS7/8,QSR have 16M onboard patches	= 7M piano + 9M of others
QuadraSynth Plus Piano, 	24M!	= 8M piano + 8M of others + 8M of what?
S4 Plus, 			20M 	= ?M piano + 8M of others + ?M of what?
QS6, 				8M 	= piano+others>>
Don't be fooled by specs.  The plain truth of the matter is just that we've
gotten better with experience.  In the Quadrasynth, for example, there are
two or three tuba samples...not everyone might want this.  The most memory
our machines can support is 32 meg.  We felt it was more important to have
the two card slots on the QS7/8/R, so we carved 8 meg less sound ROM  to
allow a greater degree of cusomizeability.  Make sense?
As far as the # of programs (all of our machines having 640), it is in no way
related to the amount of memory used per program.  I can make 100 programs
from 1 meg of memory, using lots of short drum samples; or, 20 or 30 from 7
meg, like the piano sample.  
Hope that clarifies things.

dB
Alesis

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 18:09:35 1997
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In a message dated 4/4/97 4:08:18 PM, SMoorby@spherecom.com (Moorby, Stephen)
wrote:

<<I'm confused about the recent statements of Kurzweil K2000 polyphony
being 24.  I'm not familiar with the spec. of the K2000 but the K2500
has 48 note polyphony, presumably double that of the K2000?  At first
this sounds less than the 64 of the QS series but the K2500 has 4
oscillators per note ( a total of 192 oscillators!).  So only for the
simple case of no layering does the QS beat the Kurweil on polyphony.
If 2, 4 or 4 oscillators are layered then the Kurweil has more polyphony
than the QS.>>

Yes, a K2500 is basically a double K2000.  Yes, you can use four oscillators
per layer.  *However*, this is limited to basic waveforms (sine, square,
sawtooth, etc).  You *cannot* use four piano waves, guitar waves, etc.  So,
some might argue that this spec is misleading.

dB
Alesis
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 18:09:41 1997
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In a message dated 4/4/97 2:12:29 AM, zalkae@rs3.szif.hu (ERN0) wrote:

<<Maybe your Amplitude Level is on the max value: -99 can decrease it,
but +99 can't increase, because the max level is already reached.

Is it right?
>>

Bingo.  Absolutely correct. Velocity level must be set to minimum (Amp/Range
page).

dB
Alesis
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr  6 18:09:49 1997
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In a message dated 4/4/97 3:57:34 PM, senip@j51.com (Greg Stritmater) wrote:

<<Are the Vintage Keys and Vintage Synth cards out yet? >>

No.  Vintage keys is finished, and off being mass-produced.  They should ship
this month.  Vintage synths should be out around the end of May at the
latest.

dB
Alesis
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> 
> No.  Vintage keys is finished, and off being mass-produced.  They should ship
> this month.  Vintage synths should be out around the end of May at the
> latest.
> 
> dB
> Alesis

	I'll probably getting my QS8 around then anyway, so that means
I'll be buying at least one of them along with it. Thanks ALOT Dave! :)
Btw, I seem to be getting double messages from you, is anyone else getting
that too? 


					Greg Stritmater
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From mmariano@elogica.com.br  Mon Apr  7 06:17:42 1997
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How can I do to put, get and play sample (wave or raw data file) sounds in
Alesis 256K ram card? My keyboard is QS7.

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From sean.kerns@sdrc.com  Mon Apr  7 09:13:08 1997
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Hi all,

I have an S4+ and a QS7, both of which I like a lot; especially
love all the new and improved synth and organ voices on the 7.
Anyway, I have SoundBridge, and a digital I/O card on my PC,
and I've been busily scurrying around recording all those sounds
I always hear and think "That would make a cool keyboard voice".
I record to my DAT, then digital to the PC, and save it to a .wav
file.

I've already worked out sending the samples via SBridge to the
synth on the Flash card, and how to find and play those samples.
What I have questions on now is "how do I _use_ them, in a
practical sense?"; i.e., can I take the samples and make them into
"real" voices that I can dial up without re-init'ing the synth?
Are there good docs somewhere on how to do it, maybe even a
"step by step"? The SBridge docs kind of brush over it, but seem
to stop short of taking it to practical use, and the QS7 manual is
even sparser, which is apparently because it is, after all, the
QS7 manual, not the SBridge manual, and they can't assume everybody
who buys a QS synth will also use SBridge.

So, how to "bring these samples into the mainstream", so to
speak?
Any help is appreciated.
Oh, and I imagine I'll have the same question on sequences soon, too,
so any info there is also much appreciated. As you can probably tell,
this is my first foray into sampling.

Thanks in advance,

Sean

liquido@iglou.com

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At 09:04 AM 4/7/97 -0400, Dave Moore wrote:

>Oddly, enough, I was fooling around with this just last night... there
>had to be a trace of ugliness somewhere, so as not to offend God by
>pretending to perfection, right?

Dave,

Amen!  If you aren't afraid you're tempting lightning bolts by adjusting the
settings on your QS, more power (and Glory) to you.   That Wotan Jaweh-Allah
H. Christ guy can be an unforgiving S.O.G if you don't stay on his good
side.  And as Adam can tell you from sad experience, there is no such thing
as a small bite of the apple.
Anyway, if you do happen to stumble onto that "Lost Chord"  multi set-up, or
get that "Judgement Day" solo trumpet setting _just right_ please be sure to
send a copy of the settings to the QS-List before the plague of locusts
blots ot the sun.

BB   



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From CHRIS@scintilla.utwente.nl  Mon Apr  7 13:24:45 1997
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Hi all,

I'm using the QS6 for almost one year now and I've got a little 
problem. For example, in Mix-mode, when I use one of the channels 
(say chan.1) for drums and another channel (say 2) for some fancy 
sounds (extensively using filter-envelopes) at some moment the filter-
settings of the sounds in the second channel changes for a split-
second. It looks as if the filters are turned wide open. When channel 
1 is switched off, the problem disappears. It seems as if the 
channel interact with each other. Is there someone who's familiar with 
this problem ?

Thanks in advance,

Christiaan Prins
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From etra@icsa.com.pe  Mon Apr  7 13:40:47 1997
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Hi, like all you -I suposse- I receive lots of mails from different
newsgroups, but this is the only one when the subject doenst have an alias
before.
For example, I receive mails from a Newsgroup called MUSIC, so, the subject
allways look like:

MUSIC : What do u think about Oasis last CD? ..... bla, bla, bla.

The Newsgroup of Cakewalk says:

CWL - bla, bla, bla

So, one can know WHAT GROUP is coming that mail from. Could be possible the
subjects of this Newsgroup allways say something like 

ALESIS: bla, bla, bla
or
QUADRASYNTH: bla, bla, bla ?


I think it would be easier to order the mail. I just said so, thanks.
Stuart.


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From ranand@almaden.ibm.com  Mon Apr  7 14:54:02 1997
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> I think Rajiv asked about how to do a metronome on a QS (sorry I lost > the original message). It's easy:
> Use the delay effect with  feedback at 99 (as brilliantly introduced by
> Adrian Wagner in his patch Jazz<>Loop):
> Set a portion of your keyboard (or even just the lowest or highest note) to a
> drumstick sound, patch it to the delay and set the feedback to 99. Adjust the
> speed by varying the delay time, voila!

Thanks Antoine... at last there is one guy who understands the
question... I got all the dumb answers "Go buy one and set it on top!"..
very funny guys...

I am gonna try your advice
Rajiv

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From james@innocon.com  Mon Apr  7 15:29:07 1997
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> I think Rajiv asked about how to do a metronome on a QS (sorry I lost > the original message). It's easy:
> Use the delay effect with  feedback at 99 (as brilliantly introduced by
> Adrian Wagner in his patch Jazz<>Loop):
> Set a portion of your keyboard (or even just the lowest or highest note) to a
> drumstick sound, patch it to the delay and set the feedback to 99. Adjust the
> speed by varying the delay time, voila!

Seems like there aughta also be a way to do it without involving the
effects (which are set up differently from program to program), like
creating a program with an infinite release time using one of the drum
loop samples... but then could you change the BPM speed without
shifting the pitch of the drums?

Being able to layer a metronome on any other mix would be a handy way
to settle arguments in the band!
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>Being able to layer a metronome on any other mix would be a handy way
>to settle arguments in the band!

yeah, like the argument i "settled" with my band at our gig Friday, where i
swore, on evidence of my gtr tuner, that i was in tune and the rest of the
band was out of tune.  at saturday night's gig, i noticed my tuner was
calibrated to 442 instead of 440!!!  still picking those crow feathers out
of my teeth...

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From adrian@landfall-group.com  Mon Apr  7 16:21:55 1997
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I made one program, which I will try to upload, that I use to practice
with. It is a 2 ch mix with all of the keys except for the bottom two
set to the grand piano patch, and the lower two keys set to a drum
program...  ( tribal echo? ) ... the effects is taken from that program,
but only the reverb is used on the piano patch, you can adjust the speed
by using the controllers.
As for using a loop, there is no way to avoid a pitch shift, unless you
somehow modulate the change in pitch, as a sin wave, to fall only in the
'silent' parts of the loop. I suppose it would be possible, but would
take a while.
If you are interested in the mix, although you would need the programs
too, ill send it.
take care,
Adrian
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From sherwood@bright.net  Mon Apr  7 20:10:08 1997
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The MIX USER bank on my QS6 got over written.  Can I just hook it up to
another QS6 via midi cables and transfer that user bank to my user bank. 
If so how?  You use the send all midiout function but how do you send the
whole bank to my keyboard?  Also is there a way to make my keybaord
recognize the 4 meg flash ram card that I have.  The samples are on it but
I had to put them on my program user bank because i coundmn't access the
card through  the bank scroll buttons.  thanks in advance.

Ethan Petro
eatdin@africamail.com
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From ACaron7747@aol.com  Mon Apr  7 22:17:44 1997
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Todd wrote:
>Hi!  You had told me about a patch you wrote for the QS+ called
>"tracgenpia" (and mentioned a new one called "tracge2pia" available
>soon) that you thought would work in my QS8.  It is supposed to use the
>track generator to adjust the volume of the piano sounds for a better
>balance from top to bottom

Oops! I think there was a misunderstanding here. The purpose of "tracgenpia"
is to use the tracking generator to create a new velocity curve to control
the QSs
filter and amp envelope. The idea is to get a more natural, muted tone at
lower velocities. But you can certainly use the tracking generator the
control the volume balance across the keyboard too. Simply use "note number"
as input to the TRACGEN and, in the MOD section, set one of the sources to
TRACKGEN and its destination to AMP.  Go back to the TRACGEN page and set the
10 different points to appropriate values.

If you want to download "tracgenpia" anyways, try this on your mac:
Hold the ALT key while clicking on the file to download. This should bypass
the loading of the Netscape midi plug-in and open a dialog box for saving the
.mid file. Alternatively, I think Les put the .syx version of the file on his
page too. You will need a utility like BULKSYSEX to open it and send it to
yoyr QS8, though.
Hope this helps
Antoine

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From dgoyette@REMOVEMEpcisys.net  Mon Apr  7 23:36:15 1997
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Hi Stuart and all,

I think this is a GREAT idea, especially since my membership to mailing 
lists is growing as my visiting newsgroups is declining due to too much 
SPAM and junk.  It's not unusual for me to get 80-100 messages in e-mail 
these days, and it can be a real mess since most of them do not have a 
subject line prefix (such as QSL or CWL).  I'm sure this idea will catch on 
like wildfire as mailing lists get more participants.  Just my 2 cents 
worth <smile>.

-Don

(P.S. To reply to me personally, you must remove the anti-SPAM addition to 
my e-mail address.)

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Hi, like all you -I suposse- I receive lots of mails from different
newsgroups, but this is the only one when the subject doenst have an alias
before.
For example, I receive mails from a Newsgroup called MUSIC, so, the subject
allways look like:

MUSIC : What do u think about Oasis last CD? ..... bla, bla, bla.

The Newsgroup of Cakewalk says:

CWL - bla, bla, bla

So, one can know WHAT GROUP is coming that mail from. Could be possible the
subjects of this Newsgroup allways say something like

ALESIS: bla, bla, bla
or
QUADRASYNTH: bla, bla, bla ?


I think it would be easier to order the mail. I just said so, thanks.
Stuart.


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From pbadcock@cochlear.com.au  Tue Apr  8 00:21:23 1997
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Hi all, I haven't written to this list for a while, but I sure do read every 
message it sends me.  I encountered this problem of having too many emails in my
inbox ages ago and I solved it by having my email program (Lotus cc:Mail) 
automatically sort out messages into folders for me by recognising key words or 
authors in each email.  With this list it is easy, I just scan for the words 
"Quadrasynth Mailing List" which is present at the tail of every message.  It 
runs this set of rules on two occasions : i) on startup and ii) on receiving a 
new message.  I realise however that not everyone would have this as a feature 
of their mailer.

So personally I am in favour of leaving the subject fields as they are.
I guess however if there were enough people in favour of the idea then it would 
depend whether the automatic List Server could prepend the same relevant 
word(eg. ALESIS) to the start of each subject before it sends the message out to
everyone, since there's no way 100% of the subscribers will remember to do this 
100% of the time.

>Hi, like all you -I suposse- I receive lots of mails from different newsgroups,
>but this is the only one when the subject doenst have an alias before.

Secondly, this is a Mailing List, not a NewsGroup, there is a distinct 
difference between the two.


      regards
      
      Peter

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Tue Apr  8 09:01:25 1997
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In a message dated 4/8/97 5:29:27 AM, sherwood@mail.bright.net (Gary Petro)
wrote:

<<The MIX USER bank on my QS6 got over written.  Can I just hook it up to
another QS6 via midi cables and transfer that user bank to my user bank. >>
Yes.  Or, you can download it from the CD-ROM that you got with your synth
using the Unisyn application.
<<If so how?>>
In the Store menu, go to the page that says SEND ALL DATA TO MIDI. The
receiving synth automatically recognizes the data.

<<  Also is there a way to make my keybaord
recognize the 4 meg flash ram card that I have.  The samples are on it but
I had to put them on my program user bank because i coundmn't access the
card through  the bank scroll buttons. >>
If you go into program edit, and look under the voice edit menu, you should
find your samples have been added to the existing waveform ROM.

Hope that helps.

dB
Alesis


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From teemu@gim.net  Tue Apr  8 16:08:14 1997
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Where's the best place to get a QS6? I'd prefer a place where I can call
from Guitar Center so they can match the price, so I wouldn't have to deal
with mail order.

Dayve


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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Wed Apr  9 07:15:18 1997
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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 4/5/97 6:59:18 PM, you wrote:
> 
> <<does anyone know how to move a voice sample from the QS8 to computer,
> and what program I could use to edit it? >>
> 
> Samples cannot be exported from the QS synths, only imported.  Sorry.


	Thanks. that brings up another question- Don't the expander banks
	on the CD contain samples that could be separated & edited?
Omar Bose


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From etra@icsa.com.pe  Wed Apr  9 11:32:58 1997
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Hola, algun hispanoparlante por aqui?.
Stuart.

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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Wed Apr  9 12:03:28 1997
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> Hola, algun hispanoparlante por aqui?.

Si... Siii... Siii!! ... SIIIIIII!!!!! Al fin alguien que habla espa~nol 
en esta lista de correo!!!! Ya era hora...!!!
Bueno Un saludo... espero noticias tuyas eh?

	Angel.
	O:-)
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From naso@aguila.gda.itesm.mx  Wed Apr  9 14:40:23 1997
From: "Guillermo Rosado Ontiveros." <naso@aguila.gda.itesm.mx>
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Hola!
Soy Guillermo, de Mexico, y hay otro mas (alesis@aguila.gda.itesm.mx)
que tambien esta en la lista.

Saludos!

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From jcast@ntplx.net  Wed Apr  9 23:14:26 1997
From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@ntplx.net>
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Oh come on.  Speak English.  Todas las personas no comprenden Espanol.


Jason

On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, ..AngeL DomingueZ.. wrote:

> > Hola, algun hispanoparlante por aqui?.
> 
> Si... Siii... Siii!! ... SIIIIIII!!!!! Al fin alguien que habla espa~nol 
> en esta lista de correo!!!! Ya era hora...!!!
> Bueno Un saludo... espero noticias tuyas eh?
> 
> 	Angel.
> 	O:-)
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From Ksandin@aol.com  Wed Apr  9 23:43:16 1997
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In a message dated 97-04-09 01:57:02 EDT, you write:

<< Where's the best place to get a QS6? I'd prefer a place where I can call
 from Guitar Center so they can match the price, so I wouldn't have to deal
 with mail order.
  >>

Guitar Center is a great place to get it from, especially if they are close
to you. Think about it, a living human being, no shipping hassles, and their
there if you have questions or can direct you to who you need to talk to, you
can try the gear out before you buy and get hands on. Sure there might be
some small mail order outfit or internet place that might sell below GC
ocassionally, but will they be around for a lengthy time, are they an
authorized dealer(I'm sure you'd like to be covered on warranty), and if
something goes wrong and you want to return it shipping it back and forth is
a hassle, sure they might cover the costs of shipping but you are still out
the time.
Sure I know that everyone has their own experiences with GC, mail order, and
internet. There is good and bad. The big factor is finding someone who is
serious about their job(someone who has been around awhile) and willing to do
what it takes and knows the gear.
If you'd like to go with Guitar Center and live within fifty miles of one
e-mail or call me, I'll let you know who to talk to. If you live outside of
fifty miles of a Guitar Center store give me a call I'll be happy to help you
out, I work at the MN store. The fifty mile thing is set because we don't
want to compete with ourselves on mail orders,  if we do happen to have a
store in your state but you are outside fifty miles I can ship it to you but
you'll have to pay MN tax(6.5%). Obviously I'd like you to do business with
GC, but I understand if you find someone else you feel more comfortable with.
Just make sure you know the details upfront, ask a lot of questions.

Karl Sandin-Guitar Center Roseville MN 612-631-9420
Ksandin@aol.com

P.S. Please don't waste your time doggin any dealer, I don't go there,
besides we have better things to discuss on this list. I'm trying to make a
living just as much as the next one. I have great respect for those that
venture into retail sales, its a tough competitive world.
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From jakob.boije@mailbox.swipnet.se  Thu Apr 10 05:54:18 1997
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I finally received the eprom update for my Qs6. There were no
instructions on how to install it. Do I dare to open the Qs myself? I do
not worry about the guarantee I just wonder if it is possible for a
normally skilled person to find the place where to put the chip or if
you have to be some kind of Einstein.
If someone on the list has installed an eprom I'd be happy to share what
he/she knows. 

Thanks in advance,
Johan Boije
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Johan Boije wrote:
> 
> I finally received the eprom update for my Qs6. There were no
> instructions on how to install it. Do I dare to open the Qs myself? I do
> not worry about the guarantee I just wonder if it is possible for a
> normally skilled person to find the place where to put the chip or if
> you have to be some kind of Einstein.
> If someone on the list has installed an eprom I'd be happy to share what
> he/she knows.
> Thanks in advance,
> Johan Boije


I just got mine too. With the instructions. It looks pretty simple. Why
not give Alesis a call and have them fax you the instructions? I could
fax you a copy of mine...

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From sicma!enrique@un1.satlink.com  Thu Apr 10 09:56:16 1997
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it's OK. We can still get connected via E-mail. I agree with Jason we
shouldn't speak spanish here (though it's my native language), but it's
rather rude to let people out of the conversation.
Maybe we can make it bi-lingual!! 
See how it looks...

De acuerdo. Podramos conectarnos via E-mail. Coincido con Jason en que no
deberamos hablar espanol (A pesar de ser my lengua original), pero me
parece de mal gusto dejar a la gente fuera de la conversacion.
Y si lo hacemos en los dos idiomas?


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> From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@ntplx.net>
> To: ..AngeL DomingueZ.. <adominj@alboran.ualm.es>
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> Date: 10 Abril 1997 12:14 AM
> 
> Oh come on.  Speak English.  Todas las personas no comprenden Espanol.
> 
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, ..AngeL DomingueZ.. wrote:
> 
> > > Hola, algun hispanoparlante por aqui?.
> > 
> > Si... Siii... Siii!! ... SIIIIIII!!!!! Al fin alguien que habla
espa~nol 
> > en esta lista de correo!!!! Ya era hora...!!!
> > Bueno Un saludo... espero noticias tuyas eh?
> > 
> > 	Angel.
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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Thu Apr 10 10:16:33 1997
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On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Jason Castonguay wrote:

> Oh come on.  Speak English.  Todas las personas no comprenden Espanol.
> Jason

Jason... Spanish is one of the most important languages in the world... 
Same is happening with in the US of A, so I have the right to write in 
spanish ok? 
Greetings,

	Angel.
	O:-)

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From etra@icsa.com.pe  Thu Apr 10 11:00:36 1997
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Hey friends, don't fight, we're here to help each other and in some way both
of you are rigth. As the spanish friends in this list know, I thought there
was a great idea to know how many of us spoke spanish. There's no problem
about that, I think it's not necessary to create another list, just get the
address of the people who speaks our language and when we have a problem
that can't express correctly in English, send a private email in Spanish, if
nothing happens, send a public email in English to the list. That's all.
Be happy,
Stuart.






At 10:16 10/04/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Jason Castonguay wrote:
>
>> Oh come on.  Speak English.  Todas las personas no comprenden Espanol.
>> Jason
>
>Jason... Spanish is one of the most important languages in the world... 
>Same is happening with in the US of A, so I have the right to write in 
>spanish ok? 
>Greetings,
>
>	Angel.
>	O:-)

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Although this list may not be the appropriate place for this, I felt
complelled to respond to these messages.

In a message dated: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:08:14 -0400 (EDT)
Dayve <teemu@gim.net> wrote:

<< Where's the best place to get a QS6? I'd prefer a place where I can call
 from Guitar Center so they can match the price, so I wouldn't have to deal
 with mail order.>>

Dayve, as one who works for a "mail order dealer", I find it rather
offensive that someone would post a message like this. Although its fine for
people to shop dealers to try and get the best price they can, to just
announce that you're looking for a dealer so you can just waste their time
isn't really very professional, IMHO.

In a message dated: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:43:16 -0400 (EDT)
Karl Sandin - Ksandin@aol.com wrote:

<<Guitar Center is a great place to get it from, especially if they are close
to you. Think about it, a living human being, no shipping hassles, and their
there if you have questions or can direct you to who you need to talk to, you
can try the gear out before you buy and get hands on. Sure there might be
some small mail order outfit or internet place that might sell below GC
ocassionally, but will they be around for a lengthy time, are they an
authorized dealer(I'm sure you'd like to be covered on warranty), and if
something goes wrong and you want to return it shipping it back and forth is
a hassle, sure they might cover the costs of shipping but you are still out
the time.
Sure I know that everyone has their own experiences with GC, mail order, and
internet. There is good and bad. The big factor is finding someone who is
serious about their job(someone who has been around awhile) and willing to do
what it takes and knows the gear.>>

Again I question if this is an appropriate message to post here. I monitor
this list (and others, too) and occassionally participate in technical
issues. But if I want to try and make a sale, I do it privately.

And regarding the pros and cons of buying from a "local dealer" vs. "mail
order", I won't get into a shoving match. I think we've all had both good
and band experiences with buying gear both ways (I'm a musician too, and
before I started selling gear, I bought plenty). But I do take my job very
seriously, and the very fact that I don't have the gear sitting in front of
my customer, and that I'm not looking him in the eye, means that I have to
provide them with more than just a "price". If you talk to any of our
customers, they would tell you that our phone support doesn't stop until
they're satisfied, and should they end up up with something defective, that
we will bend over backwards to make them happy. We have to, otherwise we
won't be around too long.

<<If you'd like to go with Guitar Center and live within fifty miles of one
e-mail or call me, I'll let you know who to talk to. If you live outside of
fifty miles of a Guitar Center store give me a call I'll be happy to help you
out, I work at the MN store. The fifty mile thing is set because we don't
want to compete with ourselves on mail orders,  if we do happen to have a
store in your state but you are outside fifty miles I can ship it to you but
you'll have to pay MN tax(6.5%).>>

Well now you've become a mail order dealer, haven't you? There isn't a whole
lot of difference if someone orders it from you or me at this point - except
that if he does live in MN, or a state with a GC, he won't have to pay me
sales tax! 

<<P.S. Please don't waste your time doggin any dealer, I don't go there,
besides we have better things to discuss on this list. I'm trying to make a
living just as much as the next one. I have great respect for those that
venture into retail sales, its a tough competitive world.>>

Well here I agree with you completely. And it's too bad that there are some
lousy mail order companies, just like there are some lousy retail stores -
it makes our jobs that much harder. But let's have the customers decide
which is best for them, on their own terms.

Regards,

Brian
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Brian Marine
Sound Thinking, Inc.
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From rcrane@zerby.com  Thu Apr 10 11:28:45 1997
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 I sat down and made my first serious attempt at setting up a Mix on
 my QS6 the other day, with the help of Unisyn. I need help. The effects
 are overwhelming and confusing. What are the steps involved in tweaking
 the effects properly? Take for instance the situation I was in, which was
 having the effects come from the first program in the mix, which happened
 to have some sort of delay effect associated with it (ShineOn.) So, all
 the other programs in the Mix suddenly have the delay as well. Certainly
 not what I want. What do I do? 

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From Brain21@brain21.net  Thu Apr 10 11:52:46 1997
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I have an S4 (not S4Plus).  I called tech support about the upgrade.  I
was told that the upgrades to the S4Plus were no longer available
because the factory that was making them burned down (or something).  I
was also told that with software revision 1.07 I could burn cards, I
just needed to get the SoundBridge software.  Is this true?  My software
is 1.07 dated August 8, 1995 (or is that 1.7?).  If not, is there
ANYTHING ANYWHERE that will let me burn cards (w/o going out to buy a
new S4Plus)?

I have a lot of sounds that I would like to sample, but I need to be
able to burn the cards.

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From maciejk@hum.amu.edu.pl  Thu Apr 10 14:16:29 1997
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Hello!
Is there anyobody from Poland on this list? Or am I the only Pole who =
has the opportunity to play qs7 (previosly QS+Piano)?

Maciej
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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Thu Apr 10 14:21:25 1997
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> True, but you won't get the benefit of the help from those people who 
> do not speak Spanish.  It's up to you if that's important or not.

I agree... Maybe the best solution would be to send our messages in both 
languages...

	Angel.
	O:-)

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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Thu Apr 10 14:56:52 1997
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I was wondering if anyone knows of a librarian for the QS+ (freeware or
cheap).

I don't need a sound editor.  I just want to open a Sysex file,
rearrange the Programs and/or Mixes, and save or transmit the new table.

Hope someone can help!
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From E6637066@est.fib.upc.es  Fri Apr 11 14:03:35 1997
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Hi QuadraUsers !

    I hope finally has arrived to the list my report of the Alesis QS
presentation show at April 2th in Barcelona, Spain, made by Dave Bryce (what
a thorougly turned-on man!).

    My conclussion was the synths sound very very well, specially the
well-known Bossendorfer grand piano and other acoustic sounds, while synth
sounds were good, but unfotunately I din't heard as much as I would liked to.

    After hearing the synths  ( good demo and better sound ) I'd like to
make some additional questions :

    Reading the specs ( dB -I know sound's what matters -:), I've seen
QuadraSynths haven't band-pass and high-pass filters, only low-pass filters.
Other synths like Roland's have them. Are they really useful or the most
used is low-pass filter ?

    I heard some synth bass sounds ( f.e. in QS6 demo ) which seemed to have
passed though ressonant filters, but QS doesn't have resonant filters. How
do QS synths imitate resonant filters ? Maybe by the DSP ? Maybe playing
with low-pass filter on samples with resonance ?

    I saw the new QSR module. It looked good. When is it going to be
available in Spain ? (May ?). 
    
    I liked the big LCD of QSR. My question is why QS have a so tiny LCD ?.
I've seen 100$ scientific calculators with much bigger LCDs

    Other question is the compatibility of flash ram pc-cards. I've heard so
much about this that I'm confused. Any Pc card works well with QS ? Only AMD
cards ? Only plastic cased cards for QS7/8 ? What I have to check when
purchasing a card ?

    Here goes the last one : Why are QS so expensive in europe ( specially
in Spain ) ? I've been said QS7 costs in stores more than 1700$ :-( 
    What is the usually price for QS7 in U.S. ? In this list I've heard
prices for QSRs like 650$. I don't know price for QSR in Spain, but I don't
expect less than 900$.

    My question is : Is possible to buy a synth in U.S. from Spain ? I know
that It's possible, but what I'd like to know is the REAL cost, when you add
the online or non-online store price of U.S. the shipping costs (not really
expensive less 70$) and the tariffs and taxes ?????? I'd specially be
grateful is someone who knows the REAL costs tells me.


    Well, I expect to join the 'Alesis owners club ' soon !

    " Un saludo a los hispano hablantes del mailing list "



    

    
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Alex, i was quoted $1325 for a QS7 by (i think) musician's friend "to my
door" a few months ago.  I opted instead to pay a couple hundred more and
bought it at my local music store, for which i'm glad, because only a couple
weeks into my new QS7, one of the keys broke, and i needed a replacement
board for a gig the next night, and my local store (American Music, Tacoma
-- thanks Phil!) came through for me big time.  But... that was the mail
order price!  I thought it was a great price myself.

At 02:03 PM 4/11/97 -0400, Alex Ballarin wrote:

>    What is the usually price for QS7 in U.S. ? In this list I've heard
>prices for QSRs like 650$. I don't know price for QSR in Spain, but I don't
>expect less than 900$.

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From y94emala@und.ida.liu.se  Fri Apr 11 17:59:23 1997
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among other things...  Alex wrote:
> Here goes the last one : Why are QS so expensive in europe
> ( specially in Spain ) ? I've been said QS7 costs in stores more 
> than 1700$ :-(

Not to mention Sweden...
The local store next to me (not regarded as a expensive store) sell a 
QS7 for 1950$. The same music store chain sell a used QS - 1550$,
a used QS6 - 1300$ and a used QS4 1050$.

/ Em
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Alex.....I just bought a QS6 at American Music in Caldwell Idaho for $745.00
I know the QS7's are about $500.00 more...at another music store here in
Idaho they were selling a QS7 for $1599.00. I think you can find some good
deals if you look...especially in bigger cities where there is more
competition.

                    
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From Ksandin@aol.com  Sat Apr 12 01:26:53 1997
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In a message dated 97-04-10 17:56:47 EDT, you write:

Ok, maybe I  was in the wrong about posting my pearls of GC wisdom to the
list, I had planned on sending it privately but thought that sending it to
the list might help others out in their quest for Alesis gear. My apologies
to all.
I think though that we are on the same page, that the consumer must make the
choice. Lucky for them there are choices such as GC , Mail order and Internet
outlets, it makes it easier to shop prices. My main concern is that they buy
from an authorized dealer and buy from someone that will be there for them
and that they feel comfortable with.

Karl Sandin
Guitar Center MN
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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr 12 09:17:44 1997
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For those of you who were talking about burning pcmcia cards outside
of the QS synths, this place has a reader they're blowing out at $59!
(It puts a slot in the back of your computer)

	http://www.leapfroglab.com

(best prices on other computer stuff, too!)
Omar Bose

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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr 12 11:05:51 1997
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I have a QS+ a Korg 01/W, and a sampler.  Can anyone recommend a good
resource for learning sound design?

I'm talking about being able to hear a sound and say "Okay...if I wanted
to make that sound I would start with this waveform and apply this
envelope...etc."

Trial and error is fun, but it would help to have a better knowledge
base to start from.

Thanks,
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From kalar@brainerd.net  Sat Apr 12 14:35:25 1997
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> >    What is the usually price for QS7 in U.S. ? In this list I've heard
> >prices for QSRs like 650$. I don't know price for QSR in Spain, but I don't
> >expect less than 900$.

I'd suggest bookmarking this URL:

<http://www.princeton.edu/~casey/newgear.html>    USA New Gear List

These are lowest *reported* US $$ prices on most new gear.

You might also want to see:
<http://www.synthcom.com/cgi-bin/gear>    Synthcom UsedPrices

-- Tony
<http://www.brainerd.net/~kalar/rocknmidi.html>
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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Mon Apr 14 11:00:04 1997
From: "..AngeL DomingueZ.." <adominj@alboran.ualm.es>
To: "Guillermo Rosado Ontiveros." <naso@aguila.gda.itesm.mx>
cc: alesis@aguila.gda.itesm.mx, etra@icsa.com.pe, jcast@ntplx.net,
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        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
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> Si al menos supiera hablar (o escribir) bien ingles el que no quiere
> hablar en nuestro idioma (Alex, e6637066@chooyu.upc.es) pudiera hacer
> ese tipo de sugerencias. Ya vieron la calidad de su ingles??
Desde luego se le entiende menos que a Darth Vader comiendo polvorones!!! 
La verdad es que si se pone a hablar en ingles, por lo menos que hable 
algo bien, ya que dice que no quiere hablar espa~nol... Bueno - no comment

Saludos a todos - Greetings...

	Angel.
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From E6637066@est.fib.upc.es  Mon Apr 14 10:57:10 1997
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Hi!

I'd like this message to reach the list much before (this was written on
April 3rd), but I had problems with sending messages to the list ( thanks a
lot Leo ).

So here I go ... 


===================================================================== April
3rd ==========

    Hi guys!

    This evening I have been to an Alesis QS series presentation show, for
those who interest it, here I go :

    ALESIS QS SERIES PRESENTATION SHOW AT BARCELONA (SPAIN), 2nd OF APRIL
    =====================================================================

    The show was played in a music school facilities called " L'Aula ", in
Barcelona (Spain), last Tuesday evening.

    The show star was one person who knows very well Alesis synthetizers,
because the 'showman' was one of their designors, Alesis' synth department
boss, David Bryce.

    The main point of the presentation were Alesis QS6,QS7 and QS8 synthetizers
although new Nano series ( Nanosynth, Nanobass, Nanopiano ) and QSR were also
presented.

    Before the show started, I had the opportunity of having a short chat with
Mr. Bryce, who was very very funny, but my short english didn't allow me to
ask him meny things.

    The show started when Dave Bryce ( very sympathetic and enthuthiastic all
the time ), went into the little auditorium stage and started to take out
cards, cards and more cards and shut on the synthetizers.

    Dave with the help of a translator ( who was as funny and thoroughly turned
on man as Dave ) started to show the people the patches of QS6, 7 and 8, which
i'll try to describe :

    Grand piano ( QS7/8 and Quadracard piano ) : A fantastic piano ( I have to
believe is a state-of-the-art emulation because I couldn't hear distinctions
between this and a real piano which Dave played a little after ) -near 7 megs.
for the piano, arg!!! -

    Some classical strings and brass : Very good ( Dave emphasized on how real
those sounds are, how you can feel the piano's hammer when you strike hard the
keys, etc... )

    Some sinth sounds : Moogs from Mr. Keith 'money-grubbing' Emerson,
Oberheims (the expander sounded REALLY good!), but Dave hadn't time to play
with filters and LFOs, etc...

    Processed clavicembal : A clavicembal processed like a distortion of a
electric guitar, sounded really really GREAT GREAT and GREAT. Mr. Bryce
declared it's passion for this particular sound ( like me! )

    Bass : Well, not very present at the show ( some hidden by the massive
secuences ) so I can't decide.

    Well, all the sounds had great quality, but obviously Mr. Bryce couldn't
play all them in order not to sleep us ;)

    At the end he introduced the non QS series gear ( nano things and QSR ),
and attended people's questions ( I tried to ask for breaking the ice ) but
the people dind't make many questions (worse for them, you can't question to
a synth designer all the days!!!).

    The worse of the presentation is when they raffled a QS6. Unfortunately I
didn't win it, but for making things worse, a guy who seemed me a 'silly guitar
player'  (I like guitar players, but not those who don't know anything but the
guitar ) who said : 'What I have win ? ... a synth ... well ' with a face who
would have looked the same if he had win a bubble-gum. :(,,, buaaa!

    Well, I hope I haven't been too much boring, but I felt quite excited and
I thought some of you could be interested...


                                                        Alex

PS : Dave, you reflect the american mentality ( a synth demonstrator from Spain
would played the synth but almost never encourage people to ask the most the
better and be so much sympathetic and entuthiastic ), thank you very much, next
time you come to Barcelona don't doubt to email me! :)





============================================================================
 Alex Ballarin, Student of Computer Engineering at FIB, UPC, Spain

 email : e6637066@est.fib.upc.es

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From Brain21@brain21.net  Mon Apr 14 12:27:45 1997
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Omar Bose wrote:
> 
> For those of you who were talking about burning pcmcia cards outside
> of the QS synths, this place has a reader they're blowing out at $59!
> (It puts a slot in the back of your computer)
> 
>         http://www.leapfroglab.com
> 

I'm gonna check it out, but let me ask a possibly dumb question...  What
good does a reader do me?  Can it write as well?  If it is a
reader/writer then I'll buy it.  Will it write to the format needed for
the cards?  Will SoundBridge support it?  Please someone let me know. 
If someone at Alesis knows if this device will in fact allow me to
read/write cards on the PC and then use them on the Alesis I would very
much appreciate it!!!  It sounds like what I need.  If it works like
this Alesis might think of OEMing it.

Thanks,

Brain21


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From Brain21@brain21.net  Mon Apr 14 12:40:07 1997
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Omar Bose wrote:
> 
> For those of you who were talking about burning pcmcia cards outside
> of the QS synths, this place has a reader they're blowing out at $59!
> (It puts a slot in the back of your computer)
> 

This is more for the Alesis techies on the list (hardware people in
particular).  Here are the specs on the card.  Can I write stuff to them
using SoundBridge?  Please advise because if the answer is yes, I'm
going to buy one of these.

ActionTec
PC260 PCMCIA Card Reader
Product Number   27ATPC260
Interface Standards    ISA 16-bit bus; PCMCIA 2.1; JEIDA 4.1
PCMCIA Type Support    PCMCIA Type I, II, and III
Operating System Compatibility    DOS, Windows, Windows for Workgroups,
Windows 95, OS/2
Data Transfer    10.7 MB/sec (max. burst)
Simultanceous Card Support    Left Slot: One Type I or II
Right Slot: One Type I or II
OR
Left Slot Only: One Type III
PCMCIA Card Support
ATA hard drives 
solid state storage cards 
flash memory card 
fax/modem cards 
ethernet cards 
sound cards 
SCSI adapters 
CD-ROM interfaces 
Others

Brain21

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From rcrane@scc.mi.org  Mon Apr 14 16:06:15 1997
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On Thu, Apr 10, 1997 at 11:28:45AM -0400, Ray Crane wrote:
>  I sat down and made my first serious attempt at setting up a Mix on
>  my QS6 the other day, with the help of Unisyn. I need help. The effects
>  are overwhelming and confusing. What are the steps involved in tweaking
>  the effects properly? Take for instance the situation I was in, which was
>  having the effects come from the first program in the mix, which happened
>  to have some sort of delay effect associated with it (ShineOn.) So, all
>  the other programs in the Mix suddenly have the delay as well. Certainly
>  not what I want. What do I do? 

 Anybody care to field this one? I sent it 4 days ago and haven't recieved
 any response at all... help! ;)

/Ray
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From jcast@ntplx.net  Mon Apr 14 16:18:44 1997
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Hi there everyone.  Is there anyone who would be willing to teach me how
to use/operate the QS Plus?  I need a "tutor" who'd be willing to drive
down to my house and explain everything out to me and, if he/she would
like, demonstrate things to me.  I live in Connecticut around the Hartford
area.

If anyone lives around here and would be interested, or if anyone could
recomend someone else, I'd be greatful.  Thank you.  Please contact me
personally to discuss this.


Jason

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Mon Apr 14 19:38:03 1997
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In a message dated 4/14/97 10:13:38 PM, rcrane@scc.mi.org (Ray Crane) wrote:

<<Anybody care to field this one? >>

Ray,
Getting a handle on the effects processor takes a bit of work.  In Mix mode,
you need to understand that one channel's program controls the effects
configuration in each Mix.  What this usually means is that one program
(which doesn't even need to be making sound) is going to get edited and saved
to a user location, and you'll need to change that program every time you
want to edit the effects for the mix.

<<Take for instance the situation I was in, which was
>  having the effects come from the first program in the mix, which happened
>  to have some sort of delay effect associated with it (ShineOn.) So, all
>  the other programs in the Mix suddenly have the delay as well. >>
For each channel, you can set FX level and Bus.  If you leave them set to
PROG, they will do what they're supposed to do in their respective programs
(as far as bus assignment goes, anyway...).
As I said above, this is a bit of a steep curve to learn.  I recommend using
the Unisyn profile on the CD-ROM that came with your synth...it helps to get
a more visual perspective on editing the whole synth, not just the effects.

dB
Alesis
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From andremadog@mail.telepac.pt  Mon Apr 14 19:55:03 1997
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Hi!

I've downloaded the S4+ Manual, which comes in Acrobat Reader format
(.pdf), from the Alesis site, and noticed that some characters don't
display as they should (instead of that little back and white star icon, I
get a capital J, for example).
Does this happen to anyone of you?
I suspect that the problem is in the Palatino-Roman Font (por_____.pfb),
which I don't have, and the document seems to use it! If this is the
problem, can anyone send me, or tell me where to find this font? (I think
the filename of this font is por_____.pfb)

Thanks (and sorry if this message doesn't have much QS subjects)
--
Andre Oliveira
Setubal, Portugal
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From frank.boon@lr.tudelft.nl  Tue Apr 15 05:59:01 1997
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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 4/14/97 10:13:38 PM, rcrane@scc.mi.org (Ray Crane) wrote:
> 
> <<Anybody care to field this one? >>
> 
> Ray,
> Getting a handle on the effects processor takes a bit of work.  In Mix mode,
> you need to understand that one channel's program controls the effects
> configuration in each Mix.  What this usually means is that one program
> (which doesn't even need to be making sound) is going to get edited and saved
> to a user location, and you'll need to change that program every time you
> want to edit the effects for the mix.
> 
> <<Take for instance the situation I was in, which was
> >  having the effects come from the first program in the mix, which happened
> >  to have some sort of delay effect associated with it (ShineOn.) So, all
> >  the other programs in the Mix suddenly have the delay as well. >>
> For each channel, you can set FX level and Bus.  If you leave them set to
> PROG, they will do what they're supposed to do in their respective programs
> (as far as bus assignment goes, anyway...).
> As I said above, this is a bit of a steep curve to learn.  I recommend using
> the Unisyn profile on the CD-ROM that came with your synth...it helps to get
> a more visual perspective on editing the whole synth, not just the effects.
> 
> dB
> Alesis


Hello Ray,

I just want to add a comment to the advise above: Some people were
disappointed when they first heard the "one effect patch in a
mix"-story, as this implied you have to tweak the effect patch
associated with the program you were inspired by.
However, from my experience almost all programs use only one out of the
four (or two) effect busses. Therefore, you only have to tweak the
remaining effect busses of the original program.
Furthermore, I always reset the effect configuration to 1 Reverb or a
Lezlie program since I tkae care of the EQ in my mixer.

Greetings,

Frank
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In a message dated 4/15/97 11:53:08 AM, frank.boon@lr.tudelft.nl (Frank Boon)
wrote:

<<However, from my experience almost all programs use only one out of the
four (or two) effect busses. Therefore, you only have to tweak the
remaining effect busses of the original program.>>

Very astute, and completely correct.

dB
Alesis
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	Hi everyone...

	I need a CakeWalk .INS file for the priginal QuadraSynth... Do 
you have one? Please Help me...

Thanx in advance,

	Angel.
	O:-)

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From e6637066@meiga.upc.es  Wed Apr 16 13:08:00 1997
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TEST; JUST A TEST... :)
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I warned you ( just a test )

Mails aren't reaching me !  (I hope this DO arrive me ! )
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From e6637066@meiga.upc.es  Thu Apr 17 10:05:01 1997
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Hello.

I haven't received any message from the list since day 12. What's the matter ?
Are you receiving messages ?

Bruno : If any message has been sent to the list since 12 (one about PC
PCMCIA cards reader ) the next ones don't reach me !!

Thanks
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From brain21@brain21.net  Thu Apr 17 13:18:27 1997
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Puppet wrote:
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> Hello.
> 
> I haven't received any message from the list since day 12. What's the matter ?
> Are you receiving messages ?

The list traffic seems to have taken a nose dive recently.  I know
(again) that this is not QS related, but maybe one of the Alesis people
can help me out...

Someone offered to sell me an old MMT-8 (Alesis) sequencer.  Unlike the
datadiskSQ it incorporates MTC.  Can anyone tell me more about this, and
other low cost sequencers?  I need something to play sequences created
in (for example) Cakewalk onstage, w/o having to lug a computer around. 
Pros?  Cons?  I need to spend $250 or less.

Someone enlighten me.

Brain21


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From maciejk@hum.amu.edu.pl  Thu Apr 17 14:13:51 1997
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For those who live in Europe:
There are several large Internet stores in Germany. I bought my QS7 for =
ca 2100 DM=20
at www.musicians-gear.com, but I noticed they pumped up the prices =
several weeks ago.=20
You can also try www.music-city.de, www.netzmarkt.de, =
www.musicstorekoeln.de.
Maciej
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From james@innocon.com  Thu Apr 17 19:50:01 1997
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Something matters with my head....

> The list traffic seems to have taken a nose dive recently.  

Maybe someone could post their impressions of the Vintage Keyboards
QCard?  (Has anyone received one yet?)

We're finding more and more ways to use the sounds in my new QS7.

That key is still squeaking.... that reminds me I need to call for a
repair authorization.  Alesis referred me to two repair centers in
Maryland (I'm in Northern Virginia).  One of them was backed up for at
least a week and expected to keep the keyboard until they could get to
it.  The other is backed up also, but offered to let me hang on to the
keyboard while waiting my turn, and possibly do the repair while I'm
there.  You can guess which shop I'd rather deal with!


> Someone offered to sell me an old MMT-8 (Alesis) sequencer.  Unlike the
> datadiskSQ it incorporates MTC.  Can anyone tell me more about this, and
> other low cost sequencers?  I need something to play sequences created
> in (for example) Cakewalk onstage, w/o having to lug a computer around. 
> Pros?  Cons?  I need to spend $250 or less.

If you have a QS6/7/8 you can download a limited number of sequences
from your computer into a PCMCIA card.  Sequences don't take up as
much memory as samples, so maybe you could get by with the cheapest
card.

Any tips on how to make a band (especially the drummer) stay
synchronized with sequenced parts?  Apparently I'm usually adjusting
to their tempo variations.  When I brought in a tape created from a
sequence they couldn't follow it very well.  This is despite having a
repeating bass line that hits most of the downbeats.
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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Thu Apr 17 22:22:09 1997
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Angel:
I don't know if this is what you need, but there is an ins file for the
Quadrasynth plus at:

	http://www.cakewalk.com/downloads/index.html
	click "instrument definitions"

and one for the S5+, and QS+piano at:

	http://www.isvr.soton.ac.uk/People/ccb/Cakewalk/

Good Luck!
Omar Bose




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>         Hi everyone...
> 
>         I need a CakeWalk .INS file for the priginal QuadraSynth... Do
> you have one? Please Help me...
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> 
>         Angel.
>         O:-)

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From tom@trends.ca  Thu Apr 17 23:13:08 1997
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While we're talking about Cakewalk INS files........

I'm getting my QS7 in less than 2 days (yippeee!!).  I've already
downloaded the Cakewalk QS7 file, but I noticed that it doesn't contain the
individual drum names in each drum kit.  (eg. kick drum, snare, tom,
hi-hat, etc.).  Instead, I get a set of piano keys as if the drum kit was a
regular instrument.

Is there a *complete* QS7 .INS file out there?  Or if anyone has gone
through the trouble of entering this information, could you please send it
to me?

In the worst case, I will enter the names manually... but where can I get
the names from?

Thank you.
TOM
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From vincents@harbornet.com  Fri Apr 18 01:21:35 1997
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>Any tips on how to make a band (especially the drummer) stay
>synchronized with sequenced parts?  Apparently I'm usually adjusting
>to their tempo variations.  When I brought in a tape created from a
>sequence they couldn't follow it very well.  This is despite having a
>repeating bass line that hits most of the downbeats.

After much experimenting, i ended up often sending a rudimentary drum track
to the drummer, who wore headphones, utilizing a completely separate aux
output just for this "tempo track".  Just using a quarter-note click track
sometimes didn't work, as the drummer sometimes lost the beat, and of course
chaos ensued.  But an actual "drum track" for the drummer to play along with
(hat, kick, snare) filled the bill.  Other tempo markers would be thrown in
depending on the song, perhaps a shaker on a latin tune, etc.  Basically,
*whatever it took* to make the drummer happy!  I would feed a quarter-note
click to my monitor, just to make sure the drummer was keeping on track!
The *drummer* has to keep the groove in sync with the sequence, and the band
must play to the drummer.  Good luck!

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Fri Apr 18 02:13:52 1997
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In a message dated 4/17/97 7:40:47 PM, brain21@brain21.net (Brain21) wrote:

<<Someone offered to sell me an old MMT-8 (Alesis) sequencer.  Unlike the
datadiskSQ it incorporates MTC.  Can anyone tell me more about this, and
other low cost sequencers?  I need something to play sequences created
in (for example) Cakewalk onstage, w/o having to lug a computer around. 
Pros?  Cons?  I need to spend $250 or less.
>>

MMT8 may not be a great idea...it has very little memory (if I remember
correctly, around 7700 events - basically one song), and; it has no disk
drive - it needs to be loaded via cassette.  No fun.
If you have a QS6, 7, 8 or R, they'll play sequences from a card.  If not,
you should  look for a used sequencer *with  a disk drive*, like an older
Roland MC-500, or maybe one of the old Yamaha QX series.  A Roland Sound
Brush or Alesis Data Disk or Yamaha MIDI file player (I forget the
model...MDF4, maybe?) will do playback only stuff of SMF format sequences as
well.
Hope that's helpful.

dB
Alesis
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In a message dated 4/18/97 3:58:10 AM, james@innocon.com (Michael D. James)
wrote:

<<Maybe someone could post their impressions of the Vintage Keyboards
QCard?  (Has anyone received one yet?)
>>

No one but me.  They won't ship for a few more weeks.  Sorry.
Lemme know if anyone has any questions.
Here's a basic outline of the programs:
00-24		Electric Pianos: Rhodes, Wurlitzer, RMI, CP80, etc.
25-39		Electric Pianos plus layers
40-49		Clavinets
50-59		Harpsichords
60-79		Hammonds (worth the card all by themselves)
80-89		Combo Organs: Farfisa, Vox, etc.
90-99		Mellotron: strings, choir, and flute 
100-109	Others: Fairlight Vox, Arp Omni Solina, and String Ensemble
110-119	Combinations
120-127	Eclectic programs

dB
Alesis

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From elson@westworld.com  Fri Apr 18 04:02:12 1997
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At 01.21 AM 4/18/1997 -0400, Steve Vincent wrote:
 >After much experimenting, i ended up often sending a rudimentary drum track
>to the drummer, who wore headphones, utilizing a completely separate aux
>output just for this "tempo track".  Just using a quarter-note click track
>sometimes didn't work, as the drummer sometimes lost the beat, and of course
>chaos ensued.  But an actual "drum track" for the drummer to play along with
>(hat, kick, snare) filled the bill.   

You're right, a quarter-note "tick-tock" is something drummers hate, and it
throws people off (i.e. mistakening the 4 for the 1, etc.)

I haven't had a drummer play to sequences lately, but in recording my
band's material, I have the drummer listen to a 1-bar conga pattern from a
drum machine; that way he can play *with* it, rather than *to* it. It keeps
it in time, but it also allows room to groove. 

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At 02.23 AM 4/18/1997 -0400, DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
 
 
>Here's a basic outline of the programs:
>00-24		Electric Pianos: Rhodes, Wurlitzer, RMI, CP80, etc.
>25-39		Electric Pianos plus layers
>40-49		Clavinets
>50-59		Harpsichords
>60-79		Hammonds (worth the card all by themselves)
>80-89		Combo Organs: Farfisa, Vox, etc.
>90-99		Mellotron: strings, choir, and flute 
>100-109	Others: Fairlight Vox, Arp Omni Solina, and String Ensemble
>110-119	Combinations
>120-127	Eclectic programs
 

*DROOL*

I play in an acid-jazz/funk band. This card sounds like heaven to me.
 
Would you mind telling us how the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer sounds differ
from the presets? I know they're different and better, but what sounds
different? In other words, what can I look forward to?

Elson
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Hi friends, I actually use Cakewalk 3.0 and have no problems making
sequences with an Alesis QS6.
I'm making some music with a friend and we record our songs in a Yamaha
multitrack tape recorder (don't remember the model, but i'ts a little old, I
think, because doesn't have equalization (hi,med,lo) per track) and, as all
of you know, the tape hiss is the worst fail of this devices.

So, what I would like to know -hope someone can help- is:

Digital recording with Cakewalk 5.0 using ONLY -for the first time, until I
get more money- the line in of my Sound Blaster audio card is better, equal
or worst than recording with a multitrack tape recorder?.

Please, help me to decide.

Thanks in advance,

Stuart.


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In a message dated 4/18/97 9:06:37 AM, elson@westworld.com (elson trinidad)
wrote:

<<Would you mind telling us how the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer sounds differ
from the presets? I know they're different and better, but what sounds
different? In other words, what can I look forward to?>>

Different, longer samples of multiple models of the pianos, e.g. Stage 73,
Suitcase 88, etc.  Different porgrams as well.
You're right to drool.  This is definitely my favorite of the six QCards
right now.

dB
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Hi. 

I have a QS+ and am beginning to write out my compositions by hand. I am
wondering if anyone out there has used FINALE (I think that is what it's
called) for music writing. I don't own a computer (but have one at the
office) and am beginning to think of installing Finale (or something) on it
so when I revise the piece, I don't have to erase and fill in the notes over
and over again. Cutting and Pasting with a mouse sounds wonderful right now. 

Keep in mind that the office's computer would not be hooked up to the QS+.
The software would be strictly for writing. What about printers? The office
has an HP Laserjet 4 Plus printer. Would this work?

If anyone could offer me suggestions on Finale or a different software, I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!
Sara Bancroft 

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From brain21@brain21.net  Fri Apr 18 13:10:05 1997
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> If you have a QS6/7/8 you can download a limited number of sequences
> from your computer into a PCMCIA card.  Sequences don't take up as
> much memory as samples, so maybe you could get by with the cheapest
> card.

I have an Alesis S4 sound module (BTW, never got an answer on my post. 
I have software revision 1.07 and someone at alesis tech support told me
that if I had the software revision that I could burn sample cards. 
Someone in parts said no.  Can anyone give me a correct answer?).  No
QS6, etc.  so I need an additional sequencer.  The guy selling it to me
said that it does not have much memory (like 50k max per sequence).  Can
I upgrade it?  How much memory does it have?  We have a song that is
about 11 minutes long that needs sequencing.  Also, does my drummer's
Alesis SR-16 support synching via MTC?  Does it have SPP support?  How
would I synch up the MTT-8 with an SR-16?  Are there memory upgrades
available for the SR-16?  THanks for any answers.

> 
> Any tips on how to make a band (especially the drummer) stay
> synchronized with sequenced parts?  Apparently I'm usually adjusting
> to their tempo variations.  When I brought in a tape created from a
> sequence they couldn't follow it very well.  This is despite having a
> repeating bass line that hits most of the downbeats.

If you can get the drummer to follow it the rest should fall into
place.  How are you guys listening to it?  Are you playing it over a PA
and playing along?  When we set up our drummer runs his SR-16 both
through the PA, and into a little amp that goes to headphones.  He plays
with the headphones on and cranked.  If this still doesn't help, then
either the drummer is not concentrating on the beat of the track and
concentrating more on what he is playing, or he just has poor meter.  If
the former is true tell him to play something real simple (good luck)
until he really gets the groove of the thing.  THen he should be able to
spruce it up a bit.  If worse comes to worse, stick a click track in
there and rerecord it.  Make him play to the click track.  If that still
doesn't help, tell him to practice to clicks more!  He might be
odffended by that, but hey, it's the truth.

I think the real key is for the drummer to concentrate on the track and
less on his fnacy playing.  Get it solid and tight before he goes and
adds cool stuff to it.  For that, sometimes you have to isolate that
beat for him so that he can concentrate.  That's where the headphones,
etc. comes in.

Hope this helps,

Brain21

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Item Subject: Finale Software
     I own Finale and have reservations about using it without a keyboard 
     hooked up.  It is easy to use and input notes with a keyboard.  It is 
     also very easy to edit and change notes without a keyboard.  However, 
     using a computer alone to input an entire piece from scratch might be 
     a bit painstaking - it depends on how much patience you have.  The 
     software has great flexibility on what you can place on the page and  
     the output will look very professional.  You will have no problem 
     printing with the HP Laserjet.
     
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Hi. 
     
I have a QS+ and am beginning to write out my compositions by hand. I am 
wondering if anyone out there has used FINALE (I think that is what it's 
called) for music writing. I don't own a computer (but have one at the 
office) and am beginning to think of installing Finale (or something) on it 
so when I revise the piece, I don't have to erase and fill in the notes over 
and over again. Cutting and Pasting with a mouse sounds wonderful right now. 
     
Keep in mind that the office's computer would not be hooked up to the QS+. 
The software would be strictly for writing. What about printers? The office 
has an HP Laserjet 4 Plus printer. Would this work?
     
If anyone could offer me suggestions on Finale or a different software, I 
would greatly appreciate it.
     
Thanks!
Sara Bancroft 
     
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Steve Vincent wrote:

> After much experimenting, i ended up often sending a rudimentary drum track
> to the drummer, who wore headphones, utilizing a completely separate aux
> output just for this "tempo track".  Just using a quarter-note click track
> sometimes didn't work, as the drummer sometimes lost the beat, and of course
> chaos ensued.  But an actual "drum track" for the drummer to play along with
> (hat, kick, snare) filled the bill.  Other tempo markers would be thrown in
> depending on the song, perhaps a shaker on a latin tune, etc.  Basically,
> *whatever it took* to make the drummer happy!  I would feed a quarter-note
> click to my monitor, just to make sure the drummer was keeping on track!
> The *drummer* has to keep the groove in sync with the sequence, and the band
> must play to the drummer.  Good luck!
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This is good advice.  Don't do it for too long though.  If the drummer
gets the beat that he's playing stuck in his head then it might be tough
for him to change once he hears the WHOLE sequence (which will
undoubtably change the feel or groove of the song from just a click
track!).  OR it is also possible that if the guitarist (or anyone in the
band really) gets used to a simpler beat, and then the drummer changes
his beat when he hears the whole sequence and plays along with it, the
guitarist may have a hard time changing the feel, tempo, whatever.  Just
make them listen to the whole sequence to begin with so they can get an
idea of where they are heading with the piece, and then introduce the
whole sequence to play along with as soon as you think the drummer can
handle it w/o having to concentrate on really listening to the sequence.

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In a message dated 4/18/97 6:25:19 PM, brain21@brain21.net (Brain21) wrote:

<<I have an Alesis S4 sound module (BTW, never got an answer on my post. 
I have software revision 1.07 and someone at alesis tech support told me
that if I had the software revision that I could burn sample cards. 
Someone in parts said no.  Can anyone give me a correct answer?>>

S4 cannot burn cards no matter what rev it is, unless it was upgraded to S4+.
  
dB
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From jesse@usckc.com  Fri Apr 18 15:49:04 1997
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Does anyone know where I might find some New Age sound effects (ocean,
wind, rain, etc)
in a patch or sample format? Thanks in advance.

Jl
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> Does anyone know where I might find some New Age sound effects (ocean,
> wind, rain, etc)
> in a patch or sample format? Thanks in advance.

I'd love to have these too.... from what I've seen there are no such
effects in the QS7.

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Does anybody know how I can get a catalog of the different cards available
for the QS series keyboards? Also when I bought my QS6 I bought a floor
model and didn't get the CD rom that is supposed to go with it. Can anybody
tell me how to get one? I sent in my warranty card a month or so ago, but
haven't recieved anything (like the chip that was being discussed earlier
that got sent out). Any information or help would be appreciated.  Thanks.~


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From sbancroft@molsci.com  Fri Apr 18 17:20:29 1997
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At 03:49 PM 4/18/97 -0400, Jesse wrote:

>Does anyone know where I might find some New Age sound effects (ocean,
>wind, rain, etc)
>in a patch or sample format? Thanks in advance.


Hi guys.
Since we're onto synth sounds, how's about an Eddie Van Halen-like synth
sound from the album, OU812?  I've got a QS+ and am wondering if anyone has
mimicked this sound before using Alesis products. I've found the 1984
album/sounds.

(Sorry Eric! I had to through it to the group!!! :)    )

Thanks,
Sara

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Stuart,

I haven't done any digital recording with my Cakewalk 5 prof., but I can
tell
you that what you can do with Cakewalk *after* the recording is so great
that
i wouldn't trade it for any multitrack, if I had to choose.
Of course, it eats up incredible disk space, so if you're not
sequencing, you
should probably stick with tape, even though you could get better
quality
using digital. Get studio quality tape and heads, or a digital tape
recorder
if you're doing hours of live recording.
But if you're into computers, nothing beats playing with a sequencer &
synth.
You can lay down parts perfectly on instruments you've never even seen!

Have fun!
Omar Bose




Stuart wrote: 
> So, what I would like to know -hope someone can help- is:
> 
> Digital recording with Cakewalk 5.0 using ONLY -for the first time, until I
> get more money- the line in of my Sound Blaster audio card is better, equal
> or worst than recording with a multitrack tape recorder?.

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Hi,
I own a Q7 synth and would like to know how many cards are available for
it and which are they ?

I've read Dave Byrce's response to Brain21 saying that QS 6, 7 and 8
could play sequences from a card. I would like to know the specs of the
latter and its lenght of memory  (number of songs or events). I
understand  this is a RAM card, to not confound with the others such as
"Sanctuary",  Vintage QCard, etc. 

I learned from the list that only the ceramic cards work with QSynths.
Is this true with RAM card also ?   Do RAM metallic cards also exist ?

Regards,
Yvan Meirelles
Bahia, Brazil 
yvan@quasar.com.br


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This Product is a Dealer Cost of $1065
Whereas the List is $1300+

Just keep in mind what the dealer pays for one if you get it.

BTW: I love my QS7

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> I've read Dave Byrce's response to Brain21 saying that QS 6, 7 and 8
> could play sequences from a card. I would like to know the specs of the
> latter and its lenght of memory  (number of songs or events). I
> understand  this is a RAM card, to not confound with the others such as
> "Sanctuary",  Vintage QCard, etc. 
> 
> I learned from the list that only the ceramic cards work with QSynths.
> Is this true with RAM card also ?   Do RAM metallic cards also exist ?

Try http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_crd.htm

Alot of info about the cards and about PCMCIA Ram.

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sat Apr 19 01:15:02 1997
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In a message dated 4/19/97 2:15:50 AM, yvan@quasar.com.br (Yvan Meirelles)
wrote:

<<I own a Q7 synth and would like to know how many cards are available for
it and which are they ?>>
6 are out:
Grand Piano
Sanctuary
Hip Hop
EuroDance
Classical
Rap/Techno/Dance

Vintage Keys is due out in a few weeks.

<<I've read Dave Bryce's response to Brain21 saying that QS 6, 7 and 8
could play sequences from a card. I would like to know the specs of the
latter and its lenght of memory  (number of songs or events). I
understand  this is a RAM card, to not confound with the others such as
"Sanctuary",  Vintage QCard, etc.>>
You're only limited by the size of the card you use.  Since the average
workstation uses 32 - 64k, if you have a two meg card, you can get a whole
lot more than the workstation can load at one time.  Also, the sequences play
instantly.  You are limited to 50 sequences per card. 
Since you have a QS7, you can have 100 sequences loaded up, because it has
two card slots.

<<I learned from the list that only the ceramic cards work with QSynths.
Is this true with RAM card also ?>>
The only cards that are a problem are 8 meg AMD D series cards - the metal
cased version of that card doesn't work in the synths with two card slots
(QS7/8/R).
AMD says they'll have this problem cleared up by the end of the summer.
All other AMD cards, regardless of whether or not they're metallic or plastic
work just fine.  This problem also only manifests itself in the double slot
synths...the Quadrasynth+ Piano, S4+ and QS6 can use the metal 8 meg cards
just fine.  
Hope that helps.

dB
Alesis


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Etramsa wrote:

> 
> Digital recording with Cakewalk 5.0 using ONLY -for the first time, until I
> get more money- the line in of my Sound Blaster audio card is better, equal
> or worst than recording with a multitrack tape recorder?.

I have been told (perhaps by a Sound Blaster third party site) that the
ADC on the AWE32 is only good for 12 bits. This would rule it out for
serious recording. 

Can anyone confirm this from personal experience? Also, what about 
distortion?
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From senip@j51.com  Sat Apr 19 20:45:05 1997
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> 
> Different, longer samples of multiple models of the pianos, e.g. Stage 73,
> Suitcase 88, etc.  Different porgrams as well.
> You're right to drool.  This is definitely my favorite of the six QCards
> right now.
> 
> dB
> Alesis


	Well, I went and did it. This afternoon, I finally got my Qs8!
I've been playing it for the last few hours, and can't get enough of it. I
think the impending release of the Vintage Keys Qcard pushed me over the
edge. I do have a question about the stock Rhodes sounds though. Is there
a way I can adjust the velocity threshold for the 'bark' on the presets? I
play a little hard, and seem to overload the sound a bit too easily. I'd
like to not have it bark unless I really bang on it. 

	I'm still waiting for my store to get the Vintage cards in, along
with my 2 tier stand, so I can plug in my Peavey DPM3 and have the choice
of weighted or non, or both.


				Finally a QS Owner,

					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From rdmg101@york.ac.uk  Sun Apr 20 11:17:18 1997
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On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Jesse wrote:

> Does anyone know where I might find some New Age sound effects (ocean,
> wind, rain, etc)
> in a patch or sample format? Thanks in advance.

There is a completely awesome patch in the "newpatches" bank for the
orginal s4, in the quadrasynth pages. Its called "ItsAbeach". It certainly
is. Makes ace use of the eq ing in the 1.05 OS release. Includes seagulls
with random pitch effects.


Dylan




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In a message dated 4/20/97 2:17:14 AM, senip@j51.com (Greg Stritmater) wrote:

<<Is there
a way I can adjust the velocity threshold for the 'bark' on the presets?>>

If I'm understanding what you're calling "bark" correctly, backing the
effects send off should help; or,  you can just reduce the amount of
distortion in the effects editor - that's what's responsible for the edge at
higher velocities on most of the Rhodes programs.  Give it a shot.

dB
Alesis
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From gum!mwhe@zilog.com  Sun Apr 20 13:01:11 1997
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This may be a stupid question, but I don't have anybody else to ask...so at
the risk of being thought less of...here goes...

I somehow replaced the midi piano sound on my QS6 with the grand piano
sound, and now have 2 grand piano sounds and no midi piano sound. Is there
anyway to get back the midi piano sound or will I have to live without it?

Thanks..........~


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From hytway@mindspring.com  Sun Apr 20 13:11:15 1997
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Is there a way of changing a QS8 program's Pitch Bend RANGE
from a computer?  Either a System Exclusive message or Continuous Controller?

Most of my songs use the standard RANGE of 2 semitones, but
several use the maximum of 12.

I guess this would be changing a Program parameter from a Mix, 
since I would be using a Mix mode while sequecing through a computer.
It also appears I would have to change each Sound within the Program also,
as Pitch Bend Range is associated at the Sound level only. (?)

Is there no Master Pitch Bend Range?

----
The QS8 sounds and feels great, but I've got a lot of computer
communications to sort out yet.

Great List,
Ted Hyatt


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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Sun Apr 20 13:39:51 1997
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Mark,
Go to the quadrasynth pages, written by the people who do this list,
and download the "user" bank for your qs6.
You'll have to do a little reading to learn how to transfer it to
your qs6. Unisyn is a pretty easy program to transfer it, unless
you have a better one like QE.

O. Bose




Mark_Whetstine wrote:
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> This may be a stupid question, but I don't have anybody else to ask...so at
> the risk of being thought less of...here goes...
> 
> I somehow replaced the midi piano sound on my QS6 with the grand piano
> sound, and now have 2 grand piano sounds and no midi piano sound. Is there
> anyway to get back the midi piano sound or will I have to live without it?

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Is there anyway to turn local=off on the QS6?  I guess it has to be done
from the computer?  Any tip here?

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr 20 14:26:15 1997
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In a message dated 4/20/97 5:19:19 PM, jesse@usckc.com wrote:

<<Does anyone know where I might find some New Age sound effects (ocean,
> wind, rain, etc)
> in a patch or sample format? Thanks in advance.>>
Sanctuary expansion card has wind, rain, storm flood, and thunder/earthquake.
And crickets.
Programs 120 - 125

dB
Alesis


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In a message dated 4/20/97 6:16:54 PM, hytway@mindspring.com (Ted) wrote:

<<Is there a way of changing a QS8 program's Pitch Bend RANGE
from a computer?  Either a System Exclusive message or Continuous Controller?

Most of my songs use the standard RANGE of 2 semitones, but
several use the maximum of 12.
>>

Here's a different idea.  In program edit mode, assign the pitch to one of
the control sliders using the mod matrix .  I believe a value of 72 will give
you an octave bend (Source: Slider x, dest: pitch, value: 72 for up, -72 for
down).  The sliders can certainly be controlled via MIDI, and then you won't
mess with the PB range of that instrument, or any of the others.

dB
Alesis

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr 20 14:34:39 1997
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In a message dated 4/20/97 6:47:12 PM, sigurdg@online.no (Sigurd Gulliksrud)
wrote:

<<Is there anyway to turn local=off on the QS6?  I guess it has to be done
from the computer?  Any tip here?
>>

Lots of ways. Page 6 of global edit mode contains 18 different KBD MODES,
most of which are local off.
Read yer manual...

dB
Alesis
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From wraith@lightspeed.net  Sun Apr 20 15:46:02 1997
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Hiya All.

Did you loose the original config of the QS7/8???
Here is a SySeX file that will save the day!

http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/~wraith/

just go there and retrieve the SYX file.
Save it somewhere and then load it up with FreeLoader from Alesis.
and press the play button.  BOOM... Alesis back to normal..
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From senip@j51.com  Sun Apr 20 19:00:40 1997
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> If I'm understanding what you're calling "bark" correctly, backing the
> effects send off should help; or,  you can just reduce the amount of
> distortion in the effects editor - that's what's responsible for the edge at
> higher velocities on most of the Rhodes programs.  Give it a shot.
> 
> dB
> Alesis

	Sorry for not being clearer, but I was still dizzy from
excitement. Anyway, the bark I'm refering to is the sharp, distinctly
different, attack that almost all of the Rhodes sounds (except Soft
Suitcase) have when you hit the key a tiny bit harder than normal. I just
wanted to be able (if possible) to set that threshold to a much higher
level. I went as far as to turn the distortion completely off, and that is
not the main part of the sound I'm talking about. If it helps, on a real
Rhodes, the "bark" is what happens when you hit the keys too hard, and the
hammer smacks the string in a way that it sort of cancels out the ringing
and creates a short, sometimes ugly, purcussive burst. On lower keys this
is also called a "fart", but I like to be a bit less crude :) Hope this
helps, I'm dying to hear the new card, but I'd like to do a little more
with what I have now.


					Greg Stritmater
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sun Apr 20 20:15:52 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 12:06:52 AM, senip@j51.com (Greg Stritmater)
wrote:

<<the bark I'm refering to is the sharp, distinctly
different, attack that almost all of the Rhodes sounds (except Soft
Suitcase) have when you hit the key a tiny bit harder than normal. I just
wanted to be able (if possible) to set that threshold to a much higher
level.>>

Oh.  Okay.  Try using a different velocity map for the layer that has the
distortion sample under Vel Curv (try 4of4FD); or, make one of your own using
the tracking generator:
Set Vel Curv to minimum in the amp range page
Track in: Velocity
Set points: 
0=0
1=0
2=0
3=0
4=0
5=0
6=0
7=0
8=33
9=66
10=100
These points can be set to taste...this is the way I do it to bring in a
layer at high velocities.
In the mod matrix, assign Source=TrackGen, Dest=Amplitude, and set level to
99.

That'll do it.

dB
Alesis
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From tom@trends.ca  Sun Apr 20 23:29:07 1997
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> Sanctuary expansion card has wind, rain, storm flood, and
thunder/earthquake.
> And crickets.
> Programs 120 - 125

I'd like to have these sound effects but I don't want the Sanctuary
expansion card :)  Is there any chance that these sound effects will be
posted on the web site?

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From tom@trends.ca  Sun Apr 20 23:45:14 1997
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Hey all!

I got my QS7 yesterday!  I LOVE THIS MACHINE!!  The sounds are excellent!

It didn't take me long to figure out how to set it up in multitimbral mode
and start composing.  I still haven't gotten into editing the effects, but
for now, I just choose an instrument whose effects I like, and set the mix
to use the effects of that program.  I will have to read the manual to
learn how to adjust the effect levels per channel, etc, but it doesn't seem
like a big deal.  The menu system is very good and I already know where a
lot of things are, and can get to them quickly.  The abbreviations on the
LCD are a bit annoying, but when I learn what they are, changing parameters
should be fast.

How long should I expect to wait for the CD-ROM?  I'm mailing the form on
Monday (21 April).

Just one comment - the demo sequences in the synth are a joke.. they
demonstrate the sounds alright but the songs sound amateurish.....:)  It
would have been nice to have some impressive ones.... but no big deal,
they're just demo songs :)

Any tips for a new QS7 owner?

Tom
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Mon Apr 21 00:41:34 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 1:24:30 AM, senip9@j51.com wrote:

<< I just
wanted to be able (if possible) to set that threshold to a much higher
level.>>

Oh yeah...one other easy fix - set the keyboard scaling on page 4 of global
edit to a lower value.  This makes all of the programs respond to a heavier
velocity curve.  The default is at 65...I prefer it around 35 myself.

dB
Alesis

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Mon Apr 21 00:45:39 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 4:51:51 AM, tom@trends.ca (Tom Klepl) wrote:

<<How long should I expect to wait for the CD-ROM?  I'm mailing the form on
Monday (21 April).>>
As soon as Gary Banner gets your form, he'll send the CD-ROM.  If you don't
have it in two weeks, please let me know, and I'll look into it for you.  If
you want to expedite it, call Gary at 1 (800) 5-ALESIS...you can fax him your
paperwork, and it'll probably speed up the process.

<<Just one comment - the demo sequences in the synth are a joke.. they
demonstrate the sounds alright but the songs sound amateurish.....:)  It
would have been nice to have some impressive ones.... but no big deal,
they're just demo songs :)>>
You don't like any of them?  Keith Emerson wrote and recorded the fourth one,
and I did the last one...
snif...my delicate ego...

dB
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Mon Apr 21 00:59:30 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 5:55:16 AM, tom@trends.ca (Tom Klepl) wrote:

<< Is there any chance that these sound effects will be
posted on the web site?
>>

We have no plans to do so at this time...doesn't mean we won't in the future,
mind you...

dB
Alesis
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From quinone@nol.net  Mon Apr 21 01:29:18 1997
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    Since we're kinda lingering on the topic, I was wondering if you great
guys at Alesis could find it in your heart to try and make available
some/most/all (hehe) of the sounds that come on the extra CD.  As a QS+
owner I'm estatic just being able to import waves and have gotten used to
the midi file problem (grrr ;), but still understand, after many attempts on
my own, that getting the perfect looping and envelopes for a sound really
isn't that easy at all.
    So, I thinking it would be really nice if there would be a way to get
some of these wave files from the web, ftp, etc., for those of us that can't
get the CD (which I completely understand with licensing problems).  Even if
not, what generally is on it? I've never seen an explicit post covering it,
and I'd like to see what I'm missing ;)

    Oh yah. For some great sound effects (a whole CD of them!), you can try
calling The Hollywood Edge at 1-800-292-3755 and ask for a demo CD.  It's a
full 99 tracks of lots of common and high-quality sounds (all forms of rain,
streams, marsh, jungle, etc, included) - I first heard a friend's 30 CD set
(ugh, what a library!) which includes practically EVERY sound in the WORLD
and saw the demo option.  It's also great because you can just digital copy
at full 44.1k! and it's all free/legal to sample! Ok, well, hope that helps,
and I'd still like to see some classic Alesis sounds ;) - keep up the good work!

Sincerely,
Eric Zavesky

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From frank.boon@lr.tudelft.nl  Mon Apr 21 05:56:51 1997
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Hi everybody,

Last weekend I was trying out the tracking generator as a sequencer
source. I found some strange results though. I'll sum up the parameters
I set briefly:

-first init a patch.
-Set a sample from the wave-block as an oscillator
-set the Pitch LFO as the tracking generator input
 -set point 0 to 3 of the trackgen to some value
-set PLFO type to UPSAW
-set the PLFO level to 40 to ensure 4 of the 11 points of the trackgen
are reached
-set the trigger option of the PLFO to KEYMONO
-set the steptrack as an modulator to the Pitch at a level of 99

All works OK, except the D-note under the middle C. Any other key played
results in a nice sequence of 4 notes. However, the D-note results in a
different sequence or no sequence depending on the sample used.

I have no clue whatsoever which could cause this discrepancy. Has
anybody else on this list encountered this problem? 

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From sigurdg@online.no  Mon Apr 21 09:24:31 1997
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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:

> Lots of ways. Page 6 of global edit mode contains 18 different KBD MODES,
> most of which are local off.
> Read yer manual...

Yeah yeah, but here's the thing:  I use the ch solo kbd. mode, and I
have to turn midi thru off in Cubase Score.  But I want to use midi thru
so that I can select my instruments, not only channels from Cubase.  If
I set the kbd. mode to "normal" I get that "double-sound-effect" because
I can't simply turn local=off.  Well, I see the out1 - 16 options, but I
really want to just turn it all off?!  Well I haven't read the manual
too much I guess, but.. hmm.

Anyway the QS6 suddenly starts to turn itself on and off now a days. 
The power button is correctly pressed in to the bottom, but suddenly it
just starts to turn itself on and off in rapid tempo - is this a know
"bug" or whatever one should call it?

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From rvroyen@wins.uva.nl  Mon Apr 21 09:45:16 1997
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Quoting Sigurd Gulliksrud,
> 
> DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Lots of ways. Page 6 of global edit mode contains 18 different KBD MODES,
> > most of which are local off.
> > Read yer manual...
> 
> Yeah yeah, but here's the thing:  I use the ch solo kbd. mode, and I
> have to turn midi thru off in Cubase Score.  But I want to use midi thru
> so that I can select my instruments, not only channels from Cubase.  If
> I set the kbd. mode to "normal" I get that "double-sound-effect" because
> I can't simply turn local=off.  Well, I see the out1 - 16 options, but I
> really want to just turn it all off?!  Well I haven't read the manual
> too much I guess, but.. hmm.
> 
Most of the options are ou11 - 16. Which means they SEND to channel
1..16, but are LOCAL-OFF. If you use one of these, your synth does n't
produce a sound, but the computer has to echo it.
Read yer manual...
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From brain21@brain21.net  Mon Apr 21 13:32:23 1997
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Yvan Meirelles wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I own a Q7 synth and would like to know how many cards are available for
> it and which are they ?
> 
> I've read Dave Byrce's response to Brain21 saying that QS 6, 7 and 8
> could play sequences from a card. I would like to know the specs of the
> latter and its lenght of memory  (number of songs or events). I
> understand  this is a RAM card, to not confound with the others such as
> "Sanctuary",  Vintage QCard, etc.
> 

Dave (and everyone else),

  This is like the second post i've seen of this nature to the list in
the past few days.  I asked earlier, and you said that it didn't exist,
so...

Would it be possible for someone at Alesis to create a list of all of
the cards, along with all of the patch titles, html it, and stick it up
on your web pages?  I think that this would be very useful.  Maybe even
put a .wav file up for each card that has some samples of the more
cryptically titled patches?

Just a thought,

Brain21


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From brain21@brain21.net  Mon Apr 21 14:03:04 1997
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If it helps, on a real
> Rhodes, the "bark" is what happens when you hit the keys too hard, and the
> hammer smacks the string in a way that it sort of cancels out the ringing
> and creates a short, sometimes ugly, purcussive burst. On lower keys this


Out of curiosity, is this like the beginning keys on Deep Purple's
"Hush?" (studio version)

curious,

Brain21

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From tom@trends.ca  Mon Apr 21 15:38:45 1997
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> Yeah yeah, but here's the thing:  I use the ch solo kbd. mode, and I
> have to turn midi thru off in Cubase Score.  But I want to use midi thru
> so that I can select my instruments, not only channels from Cubase.  If
> I set the kbd. mode to "normal" I get that "double-sound-effect" because
> I can't simply turn local=off.  Well, I see the out1 - 16 options, but I
> really want to just turn it all off?!  Well I haven't read the manual
> too much I guess, but.. hmm.

The manual will tell you exactly what to do.. I got my QS7 2 days ago and
just looking into the manual has allowed me to start writing songs already.
 Set the KBD mode to OUT1.  Your sequencer should be fine in its default
settings. I use Cakewalk and it will receive signals from the keyboard and
map them to whichever channel is selected in Cakewalk.  I can also select
patches and banks w/Cakewlk no problem.  Just make sure you have either the
serial midi cable connected, or a pair of MIDI cables for IN and OUT
signals.  Just one midi cable won't do the trick.  Hook the out of the
computer to the in of the QS6 and vice versa for the second cable.

Not sure how Cubase works for midi, but in Cakewalk, my MIDI Thru/Mapping
is set to Auto (default)

> Anyway the QS6 suddenly starts to turn itself on and off now a days. 
> The power button is correctly pressed in to the bottom, but suddenly it
> just starts to turn itself on and off in rapid tempo - is this a know
> "bug" or whatever one should call it?

Check your power outlet or power bar.. sounds like an intermittent
connection somewhere.  Also make sure your synth is plugged into a grounded
outlet.  If you are sure the problem is with the QS6, exchange it for a new
one.  Certainly isn't a bug.  I had my QS7 on constantly for about 15 hours
when I first got it :)

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From alesis@aguila.gda.itesm.mx  Mon Apr 21 15:59:49 1997
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No andaba muero, andaba de parranda!!!!!... jejeje

perdon por no haber aparecido, pero andaba medio atareado...

y por cierto, esta idea de escribir en espa~ol esta a toda madre!,
y si alguien se siente con nosotros, pues que se siente por aca, pa que
vea lo que es bueno... jejeje...

bueno compa~eros, echele muchas ganas,
toquense todo lo que se puedan tocar,
y no dejen de escribir como Dios manda...

un gran saludo, y seguimos en contacto...

hasta luego...


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From hytway@mindspring.com  Mon Apr 21 18:35:58 1997
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I have tried all sorts of Serial Port /COM configurations on my PC,
I install the Alesis driver, and as soon as I start Cakewalk Pro,
CRASH TO THE BONE!!

Yes, I have my QS8 Global setting to MIDI I/O=PC 38.4kb.
Set up the Serial Port 1 (9-pin?) for COM2, no IRQ/ address conflicts.

My only verdict, IT DOESN'T WORK (at least in Windows 3.11).

Guess I'll have to cough up MO' MONEY for a new multi-port MIDI interface. :(


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From wraith@lightspeed.net  Mon Apr 21 22:37:56 1997
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> From: Ted <hytway@mindspring.com>
> I have tried all sorts of Serial Port /COM configurations on my PC,
> I install the Alesis driver, and as soon as I start Cakewalk Pro,
> CRASH TO THE BONE!!
> 
> Yes, I have my QS8 Global setting to MIDI I/O=PC 38.4kb.
> Set up the Serial Port 1 (9-pin?) for COM2, no IRQ/ address conflicts.
> 
> My only verdict, IT DOESN'T WORK (at least in Windows 3.11).
> 
> Guess I'll have to cough up MO' MONEY for a new multi-port MIDI
interface. :(

First off, does your computer have 16550 serial ports??  if not, or if you
don't know...
go to the properties of the serial driver. Then click ADVANCED.  Hit the
"input persistence
button.  if it coughs up a "0" then you do have the 16550.  if not, your
computer has older
serial chips in it.  Try upgrading your serial card.  If you have that
built in to your computer,
go out and buy a serial card with "16550" chips and turn off the ones that
are built in.

I used to get lock ups all the time.  Got a new serial card.. and BOOM.. 
Problem fixed.

Also, if that input persistence is at a high number.  leave it and then try
it again.
One quick note..  COM2= 2F8 and IRQ=3.  
(just trying to cover everything..)

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From chris.hart@its.maynick.com.au  Mon Apr 21 23:07:23 1997
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I would add that it would be a great idea to have a small music demo wav
per card that 
showed off most, if not all, of the cards sounds. That way I could hear
the difference
in, say, the drum sounds from both the Techno and the Hip-Hop card.  

>Yvan Meirelles wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I own a Q7 synth and would like to know how many cards are available for
>> it and which are they ?
>> 
>> I've read Dave Byrce's response to Brain21 saying that QS 6, 7 and 8
>> could play sequences from a card. I would like to know the specs of the
>> latter and its lenght of memory  (number of songs or events). I
>> understand  this is a RAM card, to not confound with the others such as
>> "Sanctuary",  Vintage QCard, etc.
>> 
>
>Dave (and everyone else),
>
>  This is like the second post i've seen of this nature to the list in
>the past few days.  I asked earlier, and you said that it didn't exist,
>so...
>
>Would it be possible for someone at Alesis to create a list of all of
>the cards, along with all of the patch titles, html it, and stick it up
>on your web pages?  I think that this would be very useful.  Maybe even
>put a .wav file up for each card that has some samples of the more
>cryptically titled patches?
>
>Just a thought,
>
>Brain21
>
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From sigurdg@online.no  Tue Apr 22 03:01:55 1997
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Tom Klepl wrote:

> The manual will tell you exactly what to do.. I got my QS7 2 days ago and
> just looking into the manual has allowed me to start writing songs already.

I've made music since I got the QS6 at home.  Thats maybe one of the
reasons that I've yet to read the manual properly.  I can't figure out
the effect setup in mix mode eather - guess I'll have to read it soon.

> map them to whichever channel is selected in Cakewalk.  I can also select
> patches and banks w/Cakewlk no problem.  Just make sure you have either the

Btw, I can't select banks with Cubase.. anyone here who knows how to do
it?

> one.  Certainly isn't a bug.  I had my QS7 on constantly for about 15 hours
> when I first got it :)

Hmm, well when you've had your QS7 on for 15 hours I guess it can't be a
bug. ;)

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Tue Apr 22 08:47:21 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 6:26:03 AM, sigurdg@online.no (Sigurd Gulliksrud)
wrote:

<<Well, I see the out1 - 16 options, but I
really want to just turn it all off?! >>
Yes.  These options are *exactly* what you want.  Their purpose in life is
specifically to allow you to send a signal to the computer which is intended
to be sent thru the computer and back to the synth to be triggeered.

<<Anyway the QS6 suddenly starts to turn itself on and off now a days. 
The power button is correctly pressed in to the bottom, but suddenly it
just starts to turn itself on and off in rapid tempo - is this a know
"bug" or whatever one should call it?>>
Nope. Sounds like something may be funky with your power supply.  Consult
local repair facility/warranty station.

dB
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Tue Apr 22 08:58:33 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 1:35:27 PM, brain21@brain21.net (Brain21) wrote:

<<Would it be possible for someone at Alesis to create a list of all of
the cards, along with all of the patch titles, html it, and stick it up
on your web pages?  I think that this would be very useful.  Maybe even
put a .wav file up for each card that has some samples of the more
cryptically titled patches?>>

Probably not.  It's a time thing...right now, we're so far behind in where we
want to be that we just don't have the man-power to do something like this.
Sorry...

On the same subject, does anyone know an unbelievably talented yet unemployed
code writer living or looking to live in the LA area?



dB
Alesis
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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:
> 
>  Re: .WAV examples of QCards online
> 
> Probably not.  It's a time thing...right now, we're so far behind in 
> where we want to be that we just don't have the man-power to do 
> something like this.
> Sorry...
> 

   In a sincere desire to further the musical dreams of the members of
the QSlist and the sales goals of Alesis Corp., I hereby volunteer
to prepare the requested .WAV files to be published on the Alesis
home page.  I just need Dave to send me one of each of the QCards
on an open-ended loan basis as they become available.

   Despite the enormous personal sacrifice that this offer represents,
I want you all to know that I'm doing this for YOUR benefit.

	Your humble servant,

	Rick :-)

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From y94emala@und.ida.liu.se  Tue Apr 22 10:16:17 1997
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I don't know who wrote this:
> <<Would it be possible for someone at Alesis to create a list of all of
> the cards, along with all of the patch titles, html it, and stick it up
> on your web pages?  I think that this would be very useful.  Maybe even
> put a .wav file up for each card that has some samples of the more
> cryptically titled patches?>>

dB answered:
> Probably not.  It's a time thing...right now, we're so far behind in where we
> want to be that we just don't have the man-power to do something like this.
> Sorry...

Why can't we do it ourself?
Anyway the patch titles should be possible for us to fix.
I have word-dokuments for patch, mix and effects -titles of the 
original QS different software versions user banks. 
QS100, QS104, QS106, QS107. Allso the QS_GeneralMidi user bank and 
the three virtual composer banks 1-3.

I didn't wrote them all manually. I loaded the banks with QE1.1 and 
then looked in a .ini-file in the QE1.1-directory. It then contained 
the loaded patches, mixes and effects. Copy and paste it into word. 
Simple! 

Deal with that ini-file on your own responsibility. Don't blame me if 
you mess something up. Couldn't this be done with the QCards to?
There must be someone for every card that can do it. I could do it 
but I don't have the cards. I can send the dokuments to the 
quadrasynth page if you like, but I think I better wait until Les 
say it's OK. There will be some bytes. 

About that wav-samples I don't know. Some more work to do there I 
guess. I think the titles could get you some help.

Les will have some work to get it in html-format. 
I could do that if you send the lists to me. I will do it with one 
bank. I let you know when I done. Then I could maybe send the 
html-files to Les. 

Good idea or very bad?

Make sure you send them to ME!!! not to the whole list since I think 
that will cause some fire.

Regards
/ Emanuel
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From sigurdg@online.no  Tue Apr 22 12:34:21 1997
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DaveBryce9@aol.com wrote:

> Yes.  These options are *exactly* what you want.  Their purpose in life is
> specifically to allow you to send a signal to the computer which is intended
> to be sent thru the computer and back to the synth to be triggeered.

Thank you for your help - it worked just the way I wanted it when
setting the keyboard to mode 1.

> Nope. Sounds like something may be funky with your power supply.  Consult
> local repair facility/warranty station.

Could it be static electricity?  My modem suddenly does the same!  :)  
I smile at everything!

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From tom@trends.ca  Tue Apr 22 13:05:50 1997
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> I've made music since I got the QS6 at home.  Thats maybe one of the
> reasons that I've yet to read the manual properly.  I can't figure out
> the effect setup in mix mode eather - guess I'll have to read it soon.

Yep, read it.. but I'll give you some info anyway : the effects setup for a
mix is taken from a single program.  You choose which program that will be
using the FX MIDI CHAN option in the effects setup of the mix.  If you want
to change the effects, you modify the effects of that program... but if you
like the effects of one of the programs in your mix, just set the FX MIDI
CHAN to the channel of that program.  (If I'm wrong about anything anyone,
let me know :) )

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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Tue Apr 22 13:08:39 1997
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	Hi there...

	I saw your post in the list; I happened to read that you have 
config. files for the original QS... :) Could you send them to me? I 
specially use CakeWalk Pro Audio 5, so an INS file would be fine, or 
anything that would be necessary... Thanx in advance,

	Angel.
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From dhetric@ua.com  Tue Apr 22 13:21:29 1997
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Chris & Kelly Chenoweth wrote:
> 
> > From: Ted <hytway@mindspring.com>
> > I have tried all sorts of Serial Port /COM configurations on my PC,
> > I install the Alesis driver, and as soon as I start Cakewalk Pro,
> > CRASH TO THE BONE!!
> >

Solution: GET A MAC and tell Billy "GATES OF HELL" goodbye.

sorry
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From kev@op-mindc.foobar.co.uk  Tue Apr 22 17:48:25 1997
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On Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:35:58 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:

>I have tried all sorts of Serial Port /COM configurations on my PC,
>I install the Alesis driver, and as soon as I start Cakewalk Pro,
>CRASH TO THE BONE!!
>
>Yes, I have my QS8 Global setting to MIDI I/O=3DPC 38.4kb.
>Set up the Serial Port 1 (9-pin?) for COM2, no IRQ/ address conflicts.
>
>My only verdict, IT DOESN'T WORK (at least in Windows 3.11).
>
>Guess I'll have to cough up MO' MONEY for a new multi-port MIDI =
interface. :(

As other people have mentioned check your comm port chip.

Alternatively, you can try the Roland serial port driver. I use the
windows 95 Roland serial driver in place of the Alesis one as I had
some probs with it. It works fine for me with my QS6

Download from this page ...

http://www.rolandus.com/service/software/wdrivers.html#serial31

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Has anyone noticed that their QS+ is somewhat noisy when plugged into an =
amp?  I have both a QS+ and a D50, and the D50 is much quieter when =
plugged into the same amp.  I've tried switching channels and cords, but =
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Well, I made some progress by opening up my PC and changing
the plug from the 9-pin connector over to my COM2 board pins.

No more crashes, BUT now the driver doesn't detect my QS8.
Cakewalk actually recognizes the port but also verifies that
the synth is not detected.

Again, Global I/O set to PC 38.4kb, switch on back set to PC, etc.

Any other ideas?

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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Tue Apr 22 22:39:25 1997
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> Would it be possible for someone at Alesis to create a list of all of
> the cards, along with all of the patch titles, . . . .etc.


I would be willing to post the patch names on the Classical Q-card when
i get it-
its been on order quite a while.

If we can get volunteers for the other cards we'll be all set. Wav files
would
be nice, but its a large project. They should be short, representative
samples,
so you'd have to be well acquainted with each card. You would want to
give the
newcomer a fair idea of its content without robbing too much of his
lifespan
waiting for them to download!! :)

O Bose

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Omar Bose wrote:
 
 Tom Klepl wrote:
> Just one comment - the demo sequences in the synth are a joke.. they
> demonstrate the sounds alright but the songs sound amateurish.....:)  It
> would have been nice to have some impressive ones.... but no big deal,
> they're just demo songs :)
> 
 OK Tom, now you've painted yourself into a corner- we'll be expecting
 you to upload something better to the quadrasynth pages so we can all
hear!!
 
	http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth


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From donovan@kcstar.com  Wed Apr 23 00:12:48 1997
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Mitch asked:

>I have a QS+ a Korg 01/W, and a sampler.  Can anyone recommend a good
resource for learning sound design?
>I'm talking about being able to hear a sound and say "Okay...if I wanted
>to make that sound I would start with this waveform and apply this
>envelope...etc."

Far and away, the BEST (I'd say about the only) way to learn to program any
synthesizer well is to spend time with one that actually has sliders and/or
knobs for each parameter.  Doesn't matter what it is: a brand-spankin' new
Nord Lead or a $600,000 MiniMoog.  : )  I can only speak for myself, but I
got nowhere for a long time with digital synths until I finally got my hands
on some real sliders that let you hear your tweaks in real time while
associating something visual with it.  After that, you can really work with
menus a whole lot better (though it'll never be fun).

By the way--anyone used that Peavey PC1600 MIDI programmer with a
Quadrasynth?  Is it worth having?  I've been considering one for a while.

Derek

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Wed Apr 23 01:10:02 1997
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In a message dated 4/21/97 3:32:09 PM, brain21@brain21.net (Brain21) wrote:

<<Out of curiosity, is this like the beginning keys on Deep Purple's
"Hush?" (studio version)>>

Nope.  Hammond through a Fender guitar amp, I believe.

dB
Alesis
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From y94emala@und.ida.liu.se  Wed Apr 23 04:23:13 1997
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Hi!

Again then, somebody wrote:
> <<Would it be possible for someone at Alesis to create a list of all
> of the cards, along with all of the patch titles, html it, and stick
> it up on your web pages?  I think that this would be very useful. 
> Maybe even put a .wav file up for each card that has some samples of
> the more cryptically titled patches?>>
dB and his crew don't got enough time...
I thought: Then why can't we do it ourself?

I think the wav files are more work and disc-space
but I have started with the titles.

Take a look at:
http://www.edu.isy.liu.se/~y94emala/qcards.htm
What do ya think? 

Should we continue this?
I would then need some lists of the card sounds.

/ Emanuel
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From sigurdg@online.no  Wed Apr 23 05:10:26 1997
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Hi Tom!

> mix is taken from a single program.  You choose which program that will be
> using the FX MIDI CHAN option in the effects setup of the mix.  If you want
> to change the effects, you modify the effects of that program... but if you
> like the effects of one of the programs in your mix, just set the FX MIDI
> CHAN to the channel of that program.  (If I'm wrong about anything anyone,
> let me know :) )

Yup, thats the only thing I've found out about the effect setup in mix
mode too.  But, say if I want a delay on channel 1 and hmm, say reverb
on channel 2-9 and the rest simply dry.  What do I do?  (Read the
manual..buhh).
Thank you for answering anyway - I know I have to read the manual, but I
thought this list was made for people like me?  ;)

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> > Just one comment - the demo sequences in the synth are a joke.. they
> > demonstrate the sounds alright but the songs sound amateurish.....:)  It
> > would have been nice to have some impressive ones.... but no big deal,
> > they're just demo songs :)
> > 
>  OK Tom, now you've painted yourself into a corner- we'll be expecting
>  you to upload something better to the quadrasynth pages so we can all
> hear!!


Hey, I'd like to hear some QS7/8 demos you all have tucked away on your
hard drives.  Since many of us share the same sound set, we'd get around
the damned if you do/don't general midi limitations.  Might be fun!


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From gmope@neuman.interaccess.com  Wed Apr 23 05:34:11 1997
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At 05:11 AM 4/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Hey, I'd like to hear some QS7/8 demos you all have tucked away on your
>hard drives.  Since many of us share the same sound set, we'd get around
>the damned if you do/don't general midi limitations.  Might be fun!
>
>
>-- 
>  ~~~RICH~~~~    


Rich,

There are many sequences in QS7/8 format up at the unofficial Quadrasynth
site, you may want to consider checking them out.
To other list members, if you have native Quadrasynth, QS6, etc. sequences
you might want to consider this page as well.
Les is away right now but should be back in early June, in the meantime
I'd encorage you to listen and get ready to send some sequences to demonstrate
your composition and the synth's chops.
Please contact me before sending anything as it will end up routing to me.
Right now is a busy time but I should be able to get the sequences up on
the site in a week or two.
Also, I thought the demo sequences did a good job of demonstrating the
keyboard, which is what I think is the point to demo sequences.
A magnum opus may be fun to listen to but it doesn't tell you much about
the sounds found within the board. 
In other words, when I listen to demo sequences on a keyboard I'm not too
concerned with if I like the tune but how the tune sounds...

Bruce Satinover
bruno@midiworld.com
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From qsource@aimnet.com  Wed Apr 23 09:44:22 1997
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Qsynthers:

I am considering buying a QS8.  (I currently just have a QS4+.)  I've
wandered through all of the marketing literature and the manuals online at
Alesis and I can find nothing that mentions keyboard zones.

If anyone has the QS8 and can tell me if you can use the keyboard as a
controller on multiple channels via zones, let me know how it's done.

Thanks.


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From alevin@mail.nj.com  Wed Apr 23 10:06:12 1997
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On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Stan (Sawyer) Stewart wrote:
> Qsynthers:
> I am considering buying a QS8.  (I currently just have a QS4+.)  I've
> wandered through all of the marketing literature and the manuals online at
> Alesis and I can find nothing that mentions keyboard zones.
> If anyone has the QS8 and can tell me if you can use the keyboard as a
> controller on multiple channels via zones, let me know how it's done.

The QS7/8 supports up to 16 zones in its MIX mode as either splits or
layers (or velocity split/layers), and each zone can have a different MIDI
channel and can be set to either control internal sounds only, external
sounds only, both internal and external sounds, or be controlled only be
external signals coming in.

-Adam


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From dlmoore@ix.netcom.com  Wed Apr 23 11:07:20 1997
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Ted wrote:
> 
> Well, I made some progress by opening up my PC and changing
> the plug from the 9-pin connector over to my COM2 board pins.
> 
> No more crashes, BUT now the driver doesn't detect my QS8.
> Cakewalk actually recognizes the port but also verifies that
> the synth is not detected.
> 
> Again, Global I/O set to PC 38.4kb, switch on back set to PC, etc.

Woa, time out. You have two ports mapped to COM2? I don't understand
what you changed from where to where. I thought you said you were
using COM2 to start with.

Or did you switch COM1 and COM2? In that case, did you switch the
Alesis driver to look at com2 instead of com1? I think you said you
were still on 3.1. If you are on Windows 95, bring up the Multimedia
window from the control panel, select the Alesis driver and click
on the "Advanced" tab, then "properties" button. I don't know
how to do this on 3.1.
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From jcberne@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu  Wed Apr 23 14:03:40 1997
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	I have a general quick question.

I just read in the manual that the QS will receive bank messages using
controller #0.  Furthermore, typing in the value from 0 to 15 will select
the different banks.

I have Master Trax v 4 .   the patch lists in MTPro are merely text lists.
So my question is if i send a controller 0 message how can i select the
patch?   can i use the program change box or do i need to add another patch
change message after the controller message?

okay thanks

Joe Bernert



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From vincents@harbornet.com  Wed Apr 23 15:44:26 1997
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gotta love them PC's.
signed,
A Mac User
:)

At 11:07 AM 4/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Ted wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I made some progress by opening up my PC and changing
>> the plug from the 9-pin connector over to my COM2 board pins.
>> 
>> No more crashes, BUT now the driver doesn't detect my QS8.
>> Cakewalk actually recognizes the port but also verifies that
>> the synth is not detected.
>> 
>> Again, Global I/O set to PC 38.4kb, switch on back set to PC, etc.
>
>Woa, time out. You have two ports mapped to COM2? I don't understand
>what you changed from where to where. I thought you said you were
>using COM2 to start with.
>
>Or did you switch COM1 and COM2? In that case, did you switch the
>Alesis driver to look at com2 instead of com1? I think you said you
>were still on 3.1. If you are on Windows 95, bring up the Multimedia
>window from the control panel, select the Alesis driver and click
>on the "Advanced" tab, then "properties" button. I don't know
>how to do this on 3.1.
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Wed Apr 23 23:55:00 1997
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In a message dated 4/23/97 2:40:51 PM, jcberne@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu (Joe
Bernert) wrote:

<<I have Master Trax v 4 .   the patch lists in MTPro are merely text lists.
So my question is if i send a controller 0 message how can i select the
patch?   can i use the program change box or do i need to add another patch
change message after the controller message?
>>
Don't know MTPro, so I can't comment on the former, but the latter will
certainly work.  Leave about three ticks between the CC message and the patch
change.

dB
Alesis
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From martdawg@cal.net  Thu Apr 24 00:25:23 1997
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Is there any way to grab the sounds from the QS6 and save them as wav's?
I have tried this in SOUND BRIDGE... but it only sends samples to the
synth.. any ideas.. does QE do this?

Thanks..


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How do you QS+ owners switch the synth to GM mode from a sequencer with
sysex messages without setting the Keyboard Out Mode to channel solo??
Mode Out1 is preferred for my sequencer's (Cakewalk) auto thru function.
Can the Keyboard Out Mode be changed with sysex??

Any help appreciated, thanks

JT,  jsampson@pan-tex.net
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> Yup, thats the only thing I've found out about the effect setup in mix
> mode too.  But, say if I want a delay on channel 1 and hmm, say reverb
> on channel 2-9 and the rest simply dry.  What do I do?  (Read the
> manual..buhh).
> Thank you for answering anyway - I know I have to read the manual, but I
> thought this list was made for people like me?  ;)

Well, when you are in MIX mode, press the edit button and then press the 60
button to edit the levels of the currently selected channel... use the page
buttons to get to the pages that let you adjust the effects send level and
effects bus.  If you have set your effects channel to a channel that is set
up for a program with reverb and delay, you can adjust the send level and
bus for each channel.  By selecting different Buses you can get reverb,
delay, reverb AND delay, delay and chorus, or whatever the effects for that
program are set to.  If you want dry, you set the effects send level to
zero (useful for bass sounds).

Just experiment with the menus and see what changing parameters does to the
sound....

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From tom@trends.ca  Thu Apr 24 00:35:46 1997
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> Hey, I'd like to hear some QS7/8 demos you all have tucked away on your
> hard drives.  Since many of us share the same sound set, we'd get around
> the damned if you do/don't general midi limitations.  Might be fun!

Good idea... there aren't that many QS7/8 sequences on the Quadrasynth
pages actually ....

--- does anyone use Cakewalk?  I've figured out how to store the mix buffer
to sysex, but I want to include these sysex messages in the actual midi
file, so that my midi files will be compatible with other sequencers such
as cubase and logic.

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------- Bruce Satinover said: --------
> Also, I thought the demo sequences did a good job of demonstrating the
> keyboard, which is what I think is the point to demo sequences.

Well, don't get me wrong. .. I said that in my original message... the
demos go through an array of sounds... but  I would have liked to see demo
songs of various styles (jazz, classical, synth, drums, new age, rock, etc)
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>Is there any way to grab the sounds from the QS6 and save them as wav's?

Nope.  The samples in the QS are Alesis's bread and butter.  The only way to
get a version of them yourself is to sample and loop them manually.  But
then it's not going to be perfect, just close (it'll have gone through an
D/A and another A/D conversion, right?).  I suppose you could theoretically
do something with the digital output and various converters (which may or
may not exist), but that's an awful lot of trouble...

D

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IS it possible to play qs6 midis on a qs7 if u save the program edit data
via sysex... so when you play it on the qs7 it loads the correct patches?
Will it sound the same? Does the QS7 have the same patches (8 of the 16meg)
as the QS6 (which only has 8meg)? And last is there any option to upgrade
to a QS7 if you are a QS6 owner through Alesis? Thank you!

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Is there a way to set the QS7 so that it's in OUT1 keyboard mode when
Multitimbral Mix is selected, but in NORMAL keyboard mode when in Program
Mode?

Thanks
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In a message dated 97-04-25 23:36:29 EDT, you write:

<< Is there a way to set the QS7 so that it's in OUT1 keyboard mode when
 Multitimbral Mix is selected, but in NORMAL keyboard mode when in Program
 Mode? >>

Nope. Would be nice at times though.
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From obose@ix.netcom.com  Sat Apr 26 14:07:47 1997
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Here are the program names on the new Classical Qcard:
0 Welcome!
1 Mars*Holst
2 Sfz & Roll
3 Notre Dame
4 RedLttrDay
5 Dec. 25th
6 TublrChoir
7 ChimeStrng
8 The Bard
9 ThatCoyote
10 SoloString
11 Legato Vln
12 ArdoViolin
13 PizzViolin
14 Solo Viola
15 Deep Cello
16 Brite Cello
17 Bass&Cello
18 Lute Song
19 ConcrtHarp
20 Legato Str
21 SingingStrg
22 ChamberEns
23 Quartet
24 AgileStrgs
25 StringMass
26 CtlrAStrng
27 TremString
28 PizSection
29 Dyna Pizz
30 HummelTrpt
31 WarmCornet
32 SldrTbone
33 BriteTbone
34 Saw Tbone
35 SoloFrHorn
36 FH Consord
37 MellowCool
38 BaritnHorn
39 Big Tuba
40 Live Brass
41 Brassness
42 Orchy Brass
43 Soft Brass
44 SoftFHorns
45 LoudFHorns
46 2Trombones
47 Matador
48 BrsNsawmbl
49 Fat Brass
50 VibratoFlt
51 HiPiccolo
52 Recorder
53 RecFlutXfd
54 WoodyClrnt
55 BassClrnt
56 Solo Oboe
57 EnglishHrn
58 Oboe&EHorn
59 Bassoon
60 Wind Ens 1
61 Wind Ens 2
62 GoodWinds1
63 GoodWinds2
64 Reeds
65 SplitWinds
66 Nautilus
67 Anawind
68 5th Flute
69 Giddy-UpMW
70 Orch No.42
71 3rdMovemnt
72 Overture
73 OrchEnsmbl
74 Soft Orch
75 True Symph
76 Rich Orch
77 Velo Orch
78 Autumn Pad
79 Documentar
80 ClsclGrand
81 Martha Pno
82 Pno&BigStr
83 Harpsichrd
84 Harpsicut
85 2StopHrpsi
86 Celesta
87 Xylophone
88 Xylo&Marim
89 Anvil Tone
90 Positiv 1
91 Positiv 2
92 Positiv 3
93 Sanctuary
94 Ranks
95 OctavPipes
96 EasterSndy
97 PhantomOrg
98 ClearPipes
99 LiveChurch
100 MassChoir
101 Coed Choir
102 Sky Saw
103 ChoirStrng
104 Big Choir
105 Churchoir
106 Sistine
107 Sirens
108 North Sea
109 Vox'nTwine
110 Oxy"LAYER"
111 Xylo Pad
112 Twinkle Pad
113 Last Rung
114 New Sahara
115 Janglist
116 A/V Ensmbl
117 ScarletSun
118 Signals
119 PhaseStrng
120 Orch Perc
121 March Perc
122 PrcVeloEns
123 Timp&Glock
124 TubularHit
125 GongMWgnog
126 OrchHit MW
127 Wood & Hit

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From Hylander@Sprynet.com  Sat Apr 26 16:21:03 1997
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Thanks! Does this mean that you have one of these cards?  If so how do you
like it?

At 02:07 PM 4/26/97 -0400, Omar Bose wrote:
>Here are the program names on the new Classical Qcard:
>0 Welcome!
>1 Mars*Holst
>2 Sfz & Roll
>3 Notre Dame
>4 RedLttrDay
>5 Dec. 25th
>6 TublrChoir
>7 ChimeStrng
>8 The Bard
>9 ThatCoyote
>10 SoloString
>11 Legato Vln
>12 ArdoViolin
>13 PizzViolin
>14 Solo Viola
>15 Deep Cello
>16 Brite Cello
>17 Bass&Cello
>18 Lute Song
>19 ConcrtHarp
>20 Legato Str
>21 SingingStrg
>22 ChamberEns
>23 Quartet
>24 AgileStrgs
>25 StringMass
>26 CtlrAStrng
>27 TremString
>28 PizSection
>29 Dyna Pizz
>30 HummelTrpt
>31 WarmCornet
>32 SldrTbone
>33 BriteTbone
>34 Saw Tbone
>35 SoloFrHorn
>36 FH Consord
>37 MellowCool
>38 BaritnHorn
>39 Big Tuba
>40 Live Brass
>41 Brassness
>42 Orchy Brass
>43 Soft Brass
>44 SoftFHorns
>45 LoudFHorns
>46 2Trombones
>47 Matador
>48 BrsNsawmbl
>49 Fat Brass
>50 VibratoFlt
>51 HiPiccolo
>52 Recorder
>53 RecFlutXfd
>54 WoodyClrnt
>55 BassClrnt
>56 Solo Oboe
>57 EnglishHrn
>58 Oboe&EHorn
>59 Bassoon
>60 Wind Ens 1
>61 Wind Ens 2
>62 GoodWinds1
>63 GoodWinds2
>64 Reeds
>65 SplitWinds
>66 Nautilus
>67 Anawind
>68 5th Flute
>69 Giddy-UpMW
>70 Orch No.42
>71 3rdMovemnt
>72 Overture
>73 OrchEnsmbl
>74 Soft Orch
>75 True Symph
>76 Rich Orch
>77 Velo Orch
>78 Autumn Pad
>79 Documentar
>80 ClsclGrand
>81 Martha Pno
>82 Pno&BigStr
>83 Harpsichrd
>84 Harpsicut
>85 2StopHrpsi
>86 Celesta
>87 Xylophone
>88 Xylo&Marim
>89 Anvil Tone
>90 Positiv 1
>91 Positiv 2
>92 Positiv 3
>93 Sanctuary
>94 Ranks
>95 OctavPipes
>96 EasterSndy
>97 PhantomOrg
>98 ClearPipes
>99 LiveChurch
>100 MassChoir
>101 Coed Choir
>102 Sky Saw
>103 ChoirStrng
>104 Big Choir
>105 Churchoir
>106 Sistine
>107 Sirens
>108 North Sea
>109 Vox'nTwine
>110 Oxy"LAYER"
>111 Xylo Pad
>112 Twinkle Pad
>113 Last Rung
>114 New Sahara
>115 Janglist
>116 A/V Ensmbl
>117 ScarletSun
>118 Signals
>119 PhaseStrng
>120 Orch Perc
>121 March Perc
>122 PrcVeloEns
>123 Timp&Glock
>124 TubularHit
>125 GongMWgnog
>126 OrchHit MW
>127 Wood & Hit
>
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I finally got around to hooking up my QS7 directly to the serial port of my
laptop PC (Compaq 5100).  I have a mac/hayes modem cable, with an adapter to
convert the DB25 end to a DB9 female port.  Alesis Serial Driver (ver. 2.00)
is installed and recognized by Windows 95, but neither Sound Bridge nor the
Win 95 Multimedia Properties can "see" my QS7.  Is this the wrong cabling?
or is there a known problem with the driver?  What do you people use for
cables who are successful with the PC serial interface?

I have had no problems using sound bridge with my midi interface, but would
like to use my laptop when traveling out of town.  Any ideas?  Thanks........
Steve Vincent

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From dlmoore@ix.netcom.com  Sun Apr 27 12:06:24 1997
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Steve Vincent wrote:
> 
> I finally got around to hooking up my QS7 directly to the serial port of my
> laptop PC (Compaq 5100).  I have a mac/hayes modem cable, with an adapter to
> convert the DB25 end to a DB9 female port.  Alesis Serial Driver (ver. 2.00)
> is installed and recognized by Windows 95, but neither Sound Bridge nor the
> Win 95 Multimedia Properties can "see" my QS7.  Is this the wrong cabling?
> or is there a known problem with the driver?  What do you people use for
> cables who are successful with the PC serial interface?

Can your computer talk to the portable using this port and the port you
use
to hook up to the Alesis? If so, do you happen to know if the cable 
you use is "straight through" or "null modem". 

There are two types of device under rs232 - Data Terminal Ends and Data
Computer Ends.

Two units of opposite kinds are connected using a straight-through
cable. Units
of opposite kinds are connected using a "null modem" cable.

A null modem is a cable with pin 2 on one end connected to pin 3 on the
other 
and pin 3 connected to pin 2. 

If you have a volt-metre, you can determine the connections on your
cable that
connects the two computers. If it is a straight-through cable, then you
need a null-modem to hook up the laptop and the synth.

You also may have to worry about hand-shaking, but I don't believe the
Alesis hand-shaking is in any way weird, so this should be ok.

You can get a device known as a "break-out box" which will show you the
signals on an RS232c interface, but this is probably getting too
complicated
for the average user.
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> I finally got around to hooking up my QS7 directly to the serial port of
my
> laptop PC (Compaq 5100).  I have a mac/hayes modem cable, with an adapter
to
> convert the DB25 end to a DB9 female port.  Alesis Serial Driver (ver.
2.00)
> is installed and recognized by Windows 95, but neither Sound Bridge nor
the
> Win 95 Multimedia Properties can "see" my QS7.  Is this the wrong
cabling?
> or is there a known problem with the driver?  What do you people use for
> cables who are successful with the PC serial interface?
> 
> I have had no problems using sound bridge with my midi interface, but
would
> like to use my laptop when traveling out of town.  Any ideas? 
Thanks........
> Steve Vincent

Assuming the cables are correct,

Don't forget to go into the global settings of the QS, and go to page 15
where you need to change the input/output to PC38.4kbaud instead of MIDI. 
If that selection is not available, check the switch next to the serial
port and  make sure it's set to PC not MAC.  Then In windows 95, go to
control panel -> system -> device manager -> ports -> COM2 (or COM1,
whatever you use) -> properties -> port settings -> select 38400 bps.  As
for the other comport settings, I am not sure what is required for it to
work.. anyone?

I have not actually done this myself (I use a midi interface for now) but I
have experience in PC communications. :)

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From y94emala@und.ida.liu.se  Sun Apr 27 15:08:46 1997
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Thats it!

I=B4ve done! I have HTML:ed all the banks and samples I know or have 
names on. About 13 000 rows! Nowdays I just love Copy-Paste...
Look for your self. 

http://www.edu.isy.liu.se/~y94emala/qcards/qcards.htm

Doubt it could be very useful but thats the character of World Wide 
Web, isn't it? Awful lot of crap and maybe something that are useful 
to yourself.

If you think there's missing a lot of information about the QCards
then maybe you have a list of names of programs, effects, mixes or 
samples. Send it to me! Forget about the numbers infront. Just a 
list, one kolumn, with all the names.

I will send these dokuments to Les as soon as he's back.

/ Emanuel


Special thanks to:

Mum 'n Dad
QE1.1:s and QE2.0:s INI-files
My brothers, sister and friends supporting me
dB, always there answering
Omar Bose, the first one who sent a Qcard program list
My Coffee-maker for not struggling, even thou I don't drink coffee
My computer for not chrashing more than two times during work
Homemade applepie
Sunshine, it's a lovely hot spring out there
The one 'n only living God
;-)


Don't lighten fire-flame-throwers because of this mail,
just delete it!!!
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From wraith@lightspeed.net  Sun Apr 27 17:57:22 1997
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 > I finally got around to hooking up my QS7 directly to the serial port of
my
 > laptop PC (Compaq 5100).  I have a mac/hayes modem cable, with an
adapter to
 > convert the DB25 end to a DB9 female port.  Alesis Serial Driver (ver.
2.00)
 > is installed and recognized by Windows 95, but neither Sound Bridge nor
the
 > Win 95 Multimedia Properties can "see" my QS7.  Is this the wrong
cabling?
 > or is there a known problem with the driver?  What do you people use for
 > cables who are successful with the PC serial interface?

You know, I had much the same problems that you had. I went down to my
local electronic store and bought a RS232 Mini-Tester and watched it. 
Another problem seems to be when the same IRQ is used as another device. 
Now I have my modem on Com 1 and Alesis on Com 2 and put my mouse on a PS/2
port.  I have found problems with using the Modem on Com1 and the Alesis on
Com 3.  or The Mouse on Com1 And the Alesis on Com 3.

Another thing is the Serial Chips. The 16550 is the best serial chips for
they have a buffer to make sure no data is lost.  The Alesis Serial Driver
compensates for this in the Advanced settings by an Input persistence.  Be
sure to hit that button if you really don't know what type serial chips are
in your computer.  Also, that mini Tester works great for seeing the Data
Flow and it set me back $20. 

One more thing.  Make sure your Switch on the back is on PC..  (given) 
*smiles*

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From shenderson@intrustusa.com  Sun Apr 27 18:13:13 1997
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I have personally tried every null modem, gender changing, 9/25 pin,
male/female, com port setting permutation and I have good news :).

There is a very simple answer, and it is the only thing that has worked on
my laptop:  buy an Alesis or Roland cable (typically from a music store).

The MAC/Hayes cables don't work 
correctly (the pin outs are wrong for QuadraSynth, see Alesis' site for the
pinout or get it from Les Winter's site), Null modem or not.

The big problem I found with the computer-store cables (besides the
different pin-out) is that two of the pins get shorted together (the null
modem or cable does this intentionally).  This keeps you from running out
to Radio Shack, buying a jumper block, soldering kit, and a continuity
tester at 8:00PM on Saturday night to adapt the stuff you bought from
CompUsa along the way (believe me, I tried).

After $50 of Radio shack and $20 at CompUsa I simply went down to the music
store where I bought the QS7 from and found a cable from Roland which
worked ($35).  

I suggest you order the cable from Alesis ($20, I think).

By the way, I love the way it works.  When I got the right cable (I had to
by a 25/9 pin adapter too) everything just worked.

 ----
From: Steve Vincent <vincents@adrift.harbornet.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Date: Sunday, April 27, 1997 12:11 AM
Subject: PC serial port

I finally got around to hooking up my QS7 directly to the serial port of
my
laptop PC (Compaq 5100).  I have a mac/hayes modem cable, with an adapter
to
convert the DB25 end to a DB9 female port.  Alesis Serial Driver (ver.
2.00)
is installed and recognized by Windows 95, but neither Sound Bridge nor
the
Win 95 Multimedia Properties can "see" my QS7.  Is this the wrong cabling?
or is there a known problem with the driver?  What do you people use for
cables who are successful with the PC serial interface?

I have had no problems using sound bridge with my midi interface, but
would
like to use my laptop when traveling out of town.  Any ideas? 
Thanks........
Steve Vincent

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From Ksandin@aol.com  Sun Apr 27 22:14:23 1997
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In a message dated 97-04-27 18:18:48 EDT, you write:

<< There is a very simple answer, and it is the only thing that has worked on
 my laptop:  buy an Alesis or Roland cable (typically from a music store). >>

Hosa also makes a cable that will work for your Alesis to PC 9-pin. You'll be
able to get this from your music retailer, if they carry Hosa brand cables. I
know for a fact Guitar Center has these.

Karl
GC-MN
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From ArtCore_1@msn.com  Mon Apr 28 00:48:40 1997
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Nope.  You have to switch 'by hand' :)

Boris
Alesis

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Subject: 	Keyboard Modes

Is there a way to set the QS7 so that it's in OUT1 keyboard mode when
Multitimbral Mix is selected, but in NORMAL keyboard mode when in Program
Mode?

Thanks
Tom
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Many thanks to all of you who responded to my problems with my PC
serial/QS7 connection.  I will try your suggestions... stay tuned...
Steve


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From rcrane@scc.mi.org  Mon Apr 28 12:27:02 1997
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 I bought a 256k RAM card last night for my QS6. I set up a mix and attempted
 to save it to the card (STORE, select the bank and program # to store, then
 hit STORE again) but encountered an error message. The message said something
 along the lines of "This is not a QS+ Bank, please use Save to Card" ... 
 The message may be slightly different as I don't have the unit in front
 of me and I didn't write down the message yesterday, but I know the last 
 half is exactly correct "use save to card" ... What's the deal?

/Ray
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Mon Apr 28 23:35:39 1997
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In a message dated 4/28/97 2:44:14 PM, rcrane@scc.mi.org (Ray Crane) wrote:

<< The message said something
 along the lines of "This is not a QS+ Bank, please use Save to Card" ... 
 The message may be slightly different as I don't have the unit in front
 of me and I didn't write down the message yesterday, but I know the last 
 half is exactly correct "use save to card" ... What's the deal?
>>

The card probably needs formatting.  Try writing the whole User bank to it
before performing individual saves...use the page back buttons when you enter
the store menu to locate the [Load from Card] and [Save to Card] parameters.

dB
Alesis
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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Tue Apr 29 16:46:19 1997
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When I play live, I use Bank 1: preset 120...7' Grand for my stock piano
sound.
I just like the way it cuts through.  I am also running in MONO, so I
only use the Right Main Output of my QS+.

It seems that the piano is much stronger (louder) in the low end than
the high end.  Our sound man has asked me to try to alter the sound
first, and if that doesn't do it, we'll EQ at the board.

Where should I begin?  The QS+ is confusing to me.  Should I alter the
keyboard tracking in the Mod matrix?  Is there some other parameter that
controls what I want to do?  Does the fact that I'm running MONO have
anything to do with it?

Thanks for any help!

-- 
______________________________________________________________________
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From blainew@fox.nstn.ca  Wed Apr 30 03:05:28 1997
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hi there.. i just purchased my first synth - a QS7 - and i'm having what's
turning out to be an annoying problem getting my software all configured
properly. I just joined this mailing list, and i'm hoping someone out there
can help me out..

(note: i am a "newbie" so please forgive any improper terms i may use..
also, if it helps, i'm using a Mac)

ok, i have Galaxy recognizing my synth and am able to use StudioVision Pro
as my sequencer. however, when i "get the banks" from the QS7 into Galaxy,
it puts them ALL into one big list. so, when i fire up StudioVision and go
to choose my sound, i have a list of something like 600 different sounds.
i'd like to be able to break this up, so that (for example) QS7 1 - 4 have
one bank, 5-6 have another, and so on.. each with only 127 sounds. i've
been trying to figure out how to do this, but i just can't find a way to
break it down like that.. can anyone help me out with this?

as a second question, i have two quadracards, and i'd like to be able to
bring the banks from these into galaxy and be able to access them as well
in StudioVision.. can someone tell me how i would go about setting this up?

i hope i've made myself somewhat clear in what i wrote, and i really hope
someone out there knows how i can solve these two annoyances that i can't
seem to get past. thanks for taking the time to read this, and i appreciate
any letters i receive...

 cheers,
   blaine

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Wed Apr 30 03:33:51 1997
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In a message dated 4/29/97 8:42:30 PM, mitchb2@ix.netcom.com (Mitch) wrote:

<<I am also running in MONO, so I
only use the Right Main Output of my QS+.  It seems that the piano is much
stronger (louder) in the low end than the high end. 
(snip)
  Does the fact that I'm running MONO have anything to do with it?>>

Definitely.  The Bosendorfer sample was actually sampled in imaged stereo.
 It takes up two layers - one panned hard left and one panned hard right.  If
you're only using one side, you're only getting part of the sound.  Pan both
layers to the same side, or both to center.  That should help...

dB
Alesis
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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Wed Apr 30 09:00:43 1997
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At 04:46 PM 4/29/97 -0400, Mitch wrote:
>I am also running in MONO, so I only use the Right Main Output of my QS+.
>Does the fact that I'm running MONO have anything to do with it?
>
dB wrote: ...pan both sides to a single output...

Mitch,
A simpler (if somewhat costlier) solution would be to get a (small) mixer
that would allow you to send _both_ sides (L+R)in a pre-mixed mono signal
without reprogramming all the internal voices - 'cuz sure as Hell, dB and
the boys at Alesis have programmed more than one voice that has that same
configuration/stereo image - especially in the mixes.  If there's only one
channel available to you on the PA board, you need to send as much of your
sound as possible down that line... and somewhere along the line, if you're
as much of a gear-head as all the other keyboard players I've ever talked
to, you'll need a mixer just to be able to use all the gear you've acquired.
I'm currently sending both sides of 2 keyboards and a module + a guitar/FX
through the single PA channel designated as "mine" - and I'd like to add
another module and a drum machine.  Sure, it'd be nice to run direct with
every output and have a stereo output from the BIG speakers. 'Til we get
that 64 channel monster board tho', I'll have to wait.  Patiently.  Dammit!

BB
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From alevin@mail.nj.com  Wed Apr 30 09:40:55 1997
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On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, William Baker wrote:
> At 04:46 PM 4/29/97 -0400, Mitch wrote:
> >I am also running in MONO, so I only use the Right Main Output of my QS+.
> >Does the fact that I'm running MONO have anything to do with it?
> >
> dB wrote: ...pan both sides to a single output...
> 
> A simpler (if somewhat costlier) solution would be to get a (small) mixer
> that would allow you to send _both_ sides (L+R)in a pre-mixed mono signal

Erm, am I missing something?  I though if you *only* plug the one channel
(though I thought it was the LEFT, not the right) you'd get a mono signal
-- ie the *whole* signal will go out the one output.  Is this not correct,
or is it not possible in your setup, or what?

-Adam


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From jondiener@earthlink.net  Wed Apr 30 09:50:19 1997
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Gosh, I thought if you only plugged into the right OR left output of a
QS6/7/8, that you got a mono mix. When you plugged into both left AND
right, then you got stereo feeds. Or am I mistaken??

Jon Diener
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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Wed Apr 30 10:36:28 1997
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	Hi folks...

	Nice to write to you again... But this time it's a bad one...

Suddenly, when I load my sequencing software (which is CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO 
and/or CUBASE), everything's ok, execpt when I choose my MIDI Devices... 
I use a Sound Blaster 16, but the devices DO NOT APPEAR IN THE LIST!!!

The ones that are missing are: SB16 MIDI In, and SB16 MIDI Out... I tried 
to re-install the drivers but it didn't work... In fact, the SOUND 
BLASTER does not appear in the list of Sound Cards installed on my system!!!

Please help me out off this mess... A friend of  mine told me I had to 
install the sound card drivers that come into the Win95 installation 
CD... Is that true???

Thanx in advance,

	Angel.
	O:-)

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From brain21@brain21.net  Wed Apr 30 11:15:25 1997
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blaine wasylkiw wrote:
> 
> hi there.. i just purchased my first synth - a QS7 - and i'm having what's
> turning out to be an annoying problem getting my software all configured
> properly. I just joined this mailing list, and i'm hoping someone out there
> can help me out..

This brings about an idea (if it is not already incorporated, my unit is
kinda old so didn't come with this info).  Does Alesis, and if not they
should, give the mailing list address and instructions out with a new
unit?  I think it should maybe be in an appendix somewhere (incl. all
internet addresses like support emails, home pages, etc.).

Just a thought,

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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Wed Apr 30 11:38:47 1997
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At 09:50 AM 4/30/97 -0400, jon & adam wrote:
>I thought if you only plugged into the right OR left output of a
>QS6/7/8, that you got a mono mix.

Guys,
Yeah, but if you go Right to PA, Left to on-stage, you'd get the higher end
of the split and you'd think the sound guy was nuts. And if you're used to
playing the (combined) right only patch at rehearsals, you still wouldn't
hear the problem away from the stage.  Solution: Need to take a line out off
of the direct box that feeds the PA in order to "hear" what the PA's getting
- even then, depending on the overall EQ setting for the PA you might need
to roll of the channel bass EQ for the keys, especially if (as in my band)
the subs are boosted to get that CPR-simulating chest thump out of the bass
drum - if I play sustained left hand octaves the ceiling tiles start
"snowing" asbestos.

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From tom@trends.ca  Wed Apr 30 11:53:13 1997
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> Suddenly, when I load my sequencing software (which is CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO

> and/or CUBASE), everything's ok, execpt when I choose my MIDI Devices... 
> I use a Sound Blaster 16, but the devices DO NOT APPEAR IN THE LIST!!!
> 
> The ones that are missing are: SB16 MIDI In, and SB16 MIDI Out... I tried

> to re-install the drivers but it didn't work... In fact, the SOUND 
> BLASTER does not appear in the list of Sound Cards installed on my
system!!!
> 
> Please help me out off this mess... A friend of  mine told me I had to 
> install the sound card drivers that come into the Win95 installation 
> CD... Is that true???

Well, you DO have to re-install the drivers.  But make sure you are
re-installing the Windows 95 drivers and not Windows 3.1 drivers.  Go to
Creative Labs site www.creaf.com, there should be drivers available there.

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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Wed Apr 30 11:56:50 1997
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At 11:15 AM 4/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>blaine wasylkiw wrote:
>> 
>> hi there.. i just purchased my first synth - a QS7 - and i'm having what's
>> turning out to be an annoying problem...
>
>This brings about an idea (if it is not already incorporated, my unit is
>kinda old so didn't come with this info).  Does Alesis, and if not they
>should, give the mailing list address and instructions out with a new
>unit?  I think it should maybe be in an appendix somewhere (incl. all
>internet addresses like support emails, home pages, etc.).
>

J'Predict Alesis will answer with a "we can't" 'cuz of Internet volitility
and the ever sprouting number of sites - someone's bound to cry about not
being included - and after all, they do already list _their_ site on all
their adds.  A better solution might be to suggest that Alesis solicit and
add an Users-Links/Forum Page at their site for users to turn to for more
info, discussions, etc.   And, after all is said and done, Alesis isn't NPR.
They don't get paid for managing other folk's information about their
products, and it would be a herculean labor even to monitor or just check
periodically an "open market" list.  You've been on this list for a while
and you know that misinformation is as easy to get as opinion.  Perhaps if
they put in BOLD TYPE flashing neon banner at the top of every page - "The
opinions expressed are not necessarily those of Alesis..." 

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From ArtCore_1@msn.com  Wed Apr 30 12:10:09 1997
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Hey Angel.

In my opinion, what your friend suggested is not the best solution.  Here is 
what I would do.  Make sure that the entire driver is removed from your 
system. Delete the WINDRV subdirectory in your SB16 directory.  Point your WWW 
browser http://www.creaf.com and download the newest driver.  The driver on 
your Windows CD is not current.  Also it not full-duplex, meaning that it will 
not allow you to record and playback at the same time.  The driver at 
creaf.com is full duplex.

Cheers,

Boris
Alesis

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From: 	..AngeL DomingueZ..
Sent: 	Wednesday, April 30, 1997 10:36 AM
To: 	quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: 	Win95 TROUBLE... Heeeelp... O:~(

	Hi folks...

	Nice to write to you again... But this time it's a bad one...

Suddenly, when I load my sequencing software (which is CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO 
and/or CUBASE), everything's ok, execpt when I choose my MIDI Devices... 
I use a Sound Blaster 16, but the devices DO NOT APPEAR IN THE LIST!!!

The ones that are missing are: SB16 MIDI In, and SB16 MIDI Out... I tried 
to re-install the drivers but it didn't work... In fact, the SOUND 
BLASTER does not appear in the list of Sound Cards installed on my system!!!

Please help me out off this mess... A friend of  mine told me I had to 
install the sound card drivers that come into the Win95 installation 
CD... Is that true???

Thanx in advance,

	Angel.
	O:-)

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From adominj@alboran.ualm.es  Wed Apr 30 13:06:50 1997
From: "..AngeL DomingueZ.." <adominj@alboran.ualm.es>
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	Hi folks...

	Nice to write to you again... But this time it's a bad one...

Suddenly, when I load my sequencing software (which is CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO 
and/or CUBASE), everything's ok, execpt when I choose my MIDI Devices... 
I use a Sound Blaster 16, but the devices DO NOT APPEAR IN THE LIST!!!

The ones that are missing are: SB16 MIDI In, and SB16 MIDI Out... I tried 
to re-install the drivers but it didn't work... In fact, the SOUND 
BLASTER does not appear in the list of Sound Cards installed on my system!!!

Please help me out off this mess... A friend of  mine told me I had to 
install the sound card drivers that come into the Win95 installation 
CD... Is that true???

Thanx in advance,

	Angel.
	O:-)

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                                              _______----_______
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    our existence. "          _==============================================
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  <_______________________________-         ---------------------
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Wed Apr 30 15:51:42 1997
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>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Boris Wiedenfeld [SMTP:ArtCore_1@msn.com]
>Sent:	Wednesday, April 30, 1997 11:10 AM
>To:	..AngeL DomingueZ..
>Cc:	QuadrasynthList
>Subject:	RE: Win95 TROUBLE... Heeeelp... O:~(
>
>
>[Moorby, Stephen]  
>I have recently installed a soundblaster.  Initially I used the windows 95
>device drivers from the CD-ROM.  These appeared to work OK but every time I
>booted the machine it would ask for an updated device driver disk.  I
>eventually got rid of these messages by obtaining the latest device driver
>off the Creative Labs web site.  Every thing has been fine since then.  So...
> I guess what I'm saying is that I agree with Boris.
>
>Steve
>
>Hey Angel.
>
>In my opinion, what your friend suggested is not the best solution.  Here is 
>what I would do.  Make sure that the entire driver is removed from your 
>system. Delete the WINDRV subdirectory in your SB16 directory.  Point your
>WWW 
>browser http://www.creaf.com and download the newest driver.  The driver on 
>your Windows CD is not current.  Also it not full-duplex, meaning that it
>will 
>not allow you to record and playback at the same time.  The driver at 
>creaf.com is full duplex.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Boris
>Alesis
>
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From dlmoore@ix.netcom.com  Wed Apr 30 21:49:05 1997
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..AngeL DomingueZ.. wrote:
> 
>         Hi folks...
> 
>         Nice to write to you again... But this time it's a bad one...
> 
> Suddenly, when I load my sequencing software (which is CAKEWALK PRO AUDIO
> and/or CUBASE), everything's ok, execpt when I choose my MIDI Devices...
> I use a Sound Blaster 16, but the devices DO NOT APPEAR IN THE LIST!!!

Have you looked in the multimedia device list from the control panel? It
ought
to appear there as well. If not, try re-installing it with the
add/remove hardware
thingoid. If it is there, make sure "Use MIDI features" is enabled.

It should also appear on the list of devices for the midi mapper.

If you need to re-install drivers drivers you might look on the creatf
site for the latest.
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