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From ppp067c@main.citynet.net  Sun Oct 20 19:55:48 1996
Subject: Sound Bridge?
From: "Kurt K. Knopp" <kknopp@citynet.net>
To: "QuadraSynth List" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>


Just bought a QS6 and have not yet taken the plunge into purchasing a 
flash ram card.  How well does the Sound Bridge method of sample transfer 
work?  Any pointers?

Also were are the cheapest places to purchase the flash cards.  Anyone 
have any luck using cards made by others besides AMD?
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From demalta@embratel.net.br  Mon Oct 21 23:18:26 1996
From: "Pedro A." <demalta@embratel.net.br>
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Bank select messages on the QS+


Thank you Les, you were right!
Maybe some file sent a GM enable message, and as it was on Mix User bank i
didn't realize.
Very simple, but...........:-)

Bruce, i didn't understand what you meant ! I know how to insert
controllers on list windows, but what's the relation between mod whell and
program and bank changes? Anyway, thank you very much!


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From ricoflan@nextel.net  Mon Oct 21 23:46:04 1996
From: Rico Flan <ricoflan@nextel.net>
Organization: MegaFlan Worldwide (Ltd.)
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: aftertouch not recorded


O.K., I'm a moron. I'm using a QS6 w/Cakewalk Pro and I can't get CW to
record aftertouch. I have to go into the Controllers function and
manually insert aftertouch. It plays back fine, but I sure wd like to
save myself all the time, etc. How do I do this?

TIA,
--rico--
NOTE ADDRESS CHANGE: As of Nov. 1 my email will be: ricoflan@uriel.net
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Tue Oct 22 00:13:52 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: aftertouch not recorded


On 21 Oct 96 at 23:46, Rico Flan wrote:

> O.K., I'm a moron. I'm using a QS6 w/Cakewalk Pro and I can't get CW to
> record aftertouch. I have to go into the Controllers function and
> manually insert aftertouch. It plays back fine, but I sure wd like to
> save myself all the time, etc. How do I do this?

Hi Rico,

It's quite simple, Cakewalk doesn't record aftertouch by default. You can
change that, just open  RECORD FILTER from the  SETTINGS Menu,
and check the boxes for Aftertouch.

Since these (or any other) settings apply for the current file only, you may want 
to save it as a Template, and pick it from the new file list whenever you want
to record aftertouch, otherwise you have to change the settings every time you 
start a new file.

Les

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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Tue Oct 22 08:38:07 1996
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS+ and Cakewalk


I'm using Cakewalk Pro (Win 3.1) to drive all my gear, including my QS+.
The instrument file contains all the factory preset names for the QS+.

However, when I change the name of a program in the User bank, I would
like the new name to be reflected when I pull up the patch list in
Cakewalk.

Is there any way to get Cakewalk to "suck" the instrument definition
list out of a sysex dump?  The manuals and help files don't seem to
address this.

Thanks,
Mitch
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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Tue Oct 22 11:30:35 1996
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS+ and Cakewalk


"Jesse Winchester" <jwinch@login.net> wrote:
   

>Mitch,
>        No, Cakewalk can't do that - it would mean Cakewalk having to know the
>dump structure of every synth. What you *can* do is go into the master.ins
>file in your Cakewalk directory and change the patch names there. It's a
>text file, you can use Notepad.
>Jesse Winchester
>jwinch@login.net
>Visit the studio
>http://www.login.net/jwinch

Hmmm.  Sounds like a fun programming project :)

I'm currently learning C++ and Visual Basic.  Maybe I'll try to create
an app that can do this.

--Mitch
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Tue Oct 22 16:09:17 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS+ and Cakewalk


On 22 Oct 96 at 8:38, Mitch wrote:

> I'm using Cakewalk Pro (Win 3.1) to drive all my gear, including my QS+.
> The instrument file contains all the factory preset names for the QS+.
> 
> However, when I change the name of a program in the User bank, I would
> like the new name to be reflected when I pull up the patch list in
> Cakewalk.
> 
> Is there any way to get Cakewalk to "suck" the instrument definition
> list out of a sysex dump?  The manuals and help files don't seem to
> address this.

Mitch,

Cakewalk is not that smart. You can use the QuadraSynth Editor Librarian 
program for getting the patch names from the QS into a text file, and it's 
simple copy and paste from there into your Master.ins file. I used this
method when I wrote the QS+, QS7 and QS8 Instrument Definitions.
Sure beats typing...

The QuadraSynth Editor is available on the QS web pages, Software Library.
You can also use it to edit your patches and mixes, and to assemble banks
from your favorite patches. It's a lot easier with an editor.

Les
  
--
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New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From frank.boon@lr.tudelft.nl  Wed Oct 23 03:40:51 1996
Sender: frank@lr.tudelft.nl
From: Frank Boon <frank.boon@lr.tudelft.nl>
Organization: DEOS Delft University of Technology
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS6 Lock up


Hi,

I have an odd problem with my QS6 and I thought I'd share it with you.
Just to see if I'm the only one.

Whenever I have used Unisyn (the wonderfull QS6 editor that came with
the CDROM) my QS locks up when I hit the EDIT button. It then displays
#$.. INTER^% Now, I know you're not supposed to edit the synth directly
when you have Unisyn ;). But some things are faster with the button than
with a mouse.

When I switch the QS off and on, I can continue. But it's a nuisance

Regards,

Frank
-- 
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fax    : +31 15 278 5322  http://dutlru8.lr.tudelft.nl/~frank
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl  Wed Oct 23 04:26:17 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl>
Organization:  Rekencentrum RUG
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject:       Re: QS+ and Cakewalk
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl

# On 22 Oct 96 at 8:38, Mitch wrote:
#
# > I'm using Cakewalk Pro (Win 3.1) to drive all my gear, including my QS+.
# > The instrument file contains all the factory preset names for the QS+.
# >
# > However, when I change the name of a program in the User bank, I would
# > like the new name to be reflected when I pull up the patch list in
# > Cakewalk.
# >
# > Is there any way to get Cakewalk to "suck" the instrument definition
# > list out of a sysex dump?  The manuals and help files don't seem to
# > address this.
#
# Mitch,
#
# Cakewalk is not that smart. You can use the QuadraSynth Editor Librarian
# program for getting the patch names from the QS into a text file, and it's
# simple copy and paste from there into your Master.ins file. I used this
# method when I wrote the QS+, QS7 and QS8 Instrument Definitions.
# Sure beats typing...
#
# The QuadraSynth Editor is available on the QS web pages, Software Library.
# You can also use it to edit your patches and mixes, and to assemble banks
# from your favorite patches. It's a lot easier with an editor.
#
# Les

And I'd like to add that the Plus version of QE 2.0 will have an automated
'update MASTER.INS' feature to let QE do it for you.
So Mitch, no need for programming :-)

Paul
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From sladep@which.co.uk  Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 1996
From: sladep@which.co.uk
Subject: Re: drum machine


you wrote:
>>>
I am thinking about buying a dedicated drum machine to enhance my little
system since my S4+ is my only tone module. Ideally the thing would have
inputs for drum triggers and be tunable over a great range so I can do those
tricks like having the cymbals tuned way down to use for snares, things like
that. But mostly good drum sounds and full midi capabilties, and of course
cheap. Anyone out there know anything about the HR16 or the Kawai drum synth,
for instance? Any info would help.
Thanks in advance,
Dana
<<<

I've just sold my old HR-16 because a while back I bought a Q+Piano! IMO, the
drum sounds of the HR-16 are not as good, nor as varied as those available on
the S4+/Q+P.

There are no trigger ins on the HR-16, nor does it have any internal fx
processor, so you'd really need an outboard reverb too. The sounds are tunable
over a pretty good range though, and the basic sounds are good quality.

There's MIDI in and out, but (as far as I know) there's no way to dump
programmes, settings, etc to a computer. I think the DM4 or newer DM5 would be
more suitable for you, but it would cost more.

Hope that's of some use to you.

peter slade
london
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From johan.kindgren@orebro.mail.telia.com  Wed Oct 23 07:53:31 1996
From: Johan Kindgren <johan.kindgren@orebro.mail.telia.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: MIDI problem


Hi!

I've got a serious problem with my QS+Piano. Until a few weeks ago
everything worked just fine, but suddenly my QS wouldn't play incoming
MIDI. I've reinstalled Win95 and all programs that uses MIDI (Cubase and
QS Editor), but nothing seems to help. The synth sends MIDI and the
computer recieves and return them, but it won't play them.

A few days ago I discovered that if I pulled out the "OUT" cable on the
synth it played incoming MIDI. I've got the same problems in DOS. I
tested the synth and the cable on another computer and it worked just
fine.

Anyone got a clue of what to do?

Thanks in advance

Johan Kindgren
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From sladep@which.co.uk  Wed Oct 23 10:08:02 1996
From: sladep@which.co.uk
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Expression


Hi all,

Someone else asked about expression controller 11 a couple of days back.
Yesterday I wanted to do a bit of gate effecting using expression rather than
volume (then you can alter the overall volume, whilst maintaining the gate
effect intact.)

I was surprised to find that the QS+ didn't seem to respond to expression 
controller data from my sequencer. It's not the sequencer (Vision) cos I've
done this successfully many times before with my old keyboard.

Any ideas? Thanks!

peter slade
london
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Thu Oct 24 02:01:37 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Expression


Peter,

It's not as simple as on a SoundCanvas, or similar type of synths.
On the QS+, controller 11 is assigned to controller A (Quad-knob 1)
(You have the option to change that, but that's not important now.)
Controller A (controller 11) can be used as modulation source, and you
are free to choose any of the available modulation destinations for it,
(check the manual on modulation matrix). It means, that controller A
(or 11) is not necessarily used on all patches, it depends on the programmer,
and on the program. You can tell if controller A has a function, in the current
program, if A is between little arrows on the display, that means it has.
When you turn the knob, or change the values on controller 11 via MIDI
you should be able to hear the difference it makes.

One more thing : if in MIX mode, you may have the controllers turned off.
Press Select, and go to Range, page 3, and see if controllers are on or off.

BTW. I noticed, that on my QS7 controller A was used by the programmers
more intensively, you can hear a big difference in the sound when you change
the values of controller 11. 

-----------------------------------------------------------
On 23 Oct 96 at 10:08, sladep@which.co.uk wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Someone else asked about expression controller 11 a couple of days back.
> Yesterday I wanted to do a bit of gate effecting using expression rather than
> volume (then you can alter the overall volume, whilst maintaining the gate
> effect intact.)
> 
> I was surprised to find that the QS+ didn't seem to respond to expression
> controller data from my sequencer. It's not the sequencer (Vision) cos I've
> done this successfully many times before with my old keyboard.
> 
> Any ideas? Thanks!
> 
> peter slade
> london

--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Thu Oct 24 02:37:16 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: MIDI problem


On 23 Oct 96 at 7:53, Johan Kindgren wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I've got a serious problem with my QS+Piano. Until a few weeks ago
> everything worked just fine, but suddenly my QS wouldn't play incoming
> MIDI. I've reinstalled Win95 and all programs that uses MIDI (Cubase and
> QS Editor), but nothing seems to help. The synth sends MIDI and the
> computer recieves and return them, but it won't play them.
> 
> A few days ago I discovered that if I pulled out the "OUT" cable on the
> synth it played incoming MIDI. I've got the same problems in DOS. I
> tested the synth and the cable on another computer and it worked just
> fine.
> 
> Anyone got a clue of what to do?

Johan,

You may want to check the MIDI interface card in your computer. Since
the synth and the cable are ok, the problem must be either in the card, or
the  computer. If it was working before, and you haven't changed the
configuration,  (installing new devices, messing with IRQ and DMA
can cause problems like yours) I would bet on the card, but try a few things
before you throw it out :

1. I know this sounds too simple, but check if the MIDI IN from the
    synth goes to the MIDI OUT on the PC, and vice versa. Don't use the 
    THRU port...
2. Check the QS if MIDI OUT is turned on, (can be off, you know...)
3. You didn't mention the type of the card and the driver it uses, but
    see if the sequencer and the editor MIDI settings use the same driver for
    MIDI. (for example if you use MPU401, the MIDI IN and OUT
    settings should be MPU401)
4. Open Control panel, and look for conflicting devices, if something else
   uses the same IRQ #, you have to change the settings.
5.Turn the power off, and look into the PC, see if the card is installed
    properly, loose connections can be a problem.
6. If none of these helps, email me with a lot more details, these things are
    hard enough to fix when you have the computer in front of you, to do it
    by email is even harder, I need all the info I can get.

Les
  
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From alee@gers.com  Fri Oct 25 15:30:51 1996
To: QuadraSynth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
From: Abraham Lee <alee@gers.com>
Subject: QS6 or QS7


Hi all,

I am new to this mailing list.  I am in the process of choosing a 
new keyboard.  I think I am down to the final list of Alesis QS6 
and Alesis QS7.  And debating which one of them to get.  Is there 
anyone out there with experience with either one of them.  Any good 
or bad things about them?  Please enlighten me, a rookie keyboard 
learner (I am a guitar player, but I won't call myself a keyboard 
player -- I'm just starting in learning it).  Thanks in advance.

Abraham
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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Fri Oct 25 15:43:56 1996
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: William Baker <wbaker@nkf.com>
Subject: Survivability


The other night at a gig my S4+ to a spill (along with all the other gear in
my rack) which appears at this point to have killed it.  Everything else
survived alright.  The S4 lit, first with all LCDs active, then none, then
all again. No lights indicating MIDI received at any time.  At the time
there was no sound - not even buzz, from the unit.  It's in the shop now to
see what chance there is to resurrect it, but at this point in time it
seemed "most sincerely dead".

Question is - has anyone else had similar experiences, and if so would you
recommend a restriction to studio use only?

Is there a "cold boot" reset that will let the unit run a self-diagnostic or
reset to the "factory" status?

I used to have an E-mu Proteus that would crap out from a warping board
inside whenever it got too hot.  In studio it's just fine though.  If the
S4+ has similar problems, I'd like to hear about 'em before the next trip to
the repair shop.

Thanks.

BB 

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From progmon@eden.com  Fri Oct 25 16:36:17 1996
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
To: Abraham Lee <alee@gers.com>
CC: QuadraSynth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: QS6 or QS7


Abraham Lee wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am new to this mailing list.  I am in the process of choosing a
> new keyboard.  I think I am down to the final list of Alesis QS6
> and Alesis QS7.  And debating which one of them to get. 

You have to consider how important having a good sounding piano and 76
as oppossed to 61 keys are to you.  If you plan to be using the QS for
more than a few years--go for the qs7, it will expand with your needs
better with the extra card slot and 4 sliders, making it much better
suited as a master controller.  You can do alot with the sliders.  For
example, I control the joystick functions on my wavestation SR and the
filters on my Esi32 with them, as well as using them for internal qs
sounds.  

-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		        Vibes Comes Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From kaos@netime.com  Fri Oct 25 17:18:18 1996
From: kaos <kaos@netime.com>
Reply-To: kaos@netime.com
Organization: Organized Kaos
To: Abraham Lee <alee@gers.com>
Subject: Re: QS6 or QS7


Abraham Lee wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am new to this mailing list.  I am in the process of choosing a
> new keyboard.  I think I am down to the final list of Alesis QS6
> and Alesis QS7.  And debating which one of them to get.  Is there
> anyone out there with experience with either one of them.  Any good
> or bad things about them?  Please enlighten me, a rookie keyboard
> learner (I am a guitar player, but I won't call myself a keyboard
> player -- I'm just starting in learning it).  Thanks in advance.
> 

The only thing that should stop you from getting a QS7 over a QS6 is
$$$$! I have the QS6 and really enjoy it but if I had had the extra cash
I would have sprung for a QS7. There are more keys, more Sample ROM, and
more controllers on the 7. Good luck!

-- 
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*  for Bryce Artwork, Midi files, Saturn & 	*
* Playstation thoughts,and daily commentary *
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From briareus@ute.gate.net  Sat Oct 26 00:01:09 1996
Subject: QS6 & Mac OMS help
From: "C.H. Glansdorp" <briareus@gate.net>
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>


Greetings.  New list subscriber and new QS6 user here with a couple 
questions.  Hope someone can assist...

I seem to be having some trouble getting Opcode's OMS to recognize my QS6 
(easy-identify does no good, and entering the info manually doesn't solve 
my Names problems).  Therefore, I can't get anything other than the user 
banks read into Galaxy, and nothing at all shows up when I subscribe the 
bundle to be accessible in Studio Vision (it says there are no QS6 names 
in the bundle).

I'm hoping to be able to get both the preset and user banks into Galaxy 
so I can do banks selects and patch selection by Name in Studio Vision.

Also, it seems that the FreeLoader application is not very PowerPC 
friendly - I get floating point error reports that drop me into a script 
editor/debugger.  What's this all about?

Other than integrating this synth into my studio setup, I love it.  Great 
sounds, really easy to get around in.  Hope there's some Mac MIDI types 
out there that can help.

Thanks in advance!


+-----------------
| Christopher H. Glansdorp
| Cellist / Electric Cellist
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From briareus@ute.gate.net  Sat Oct 26 01:08:16 1996
Subject: Re: QS6 & Mac OMS help (found it)
x-sender: briareus@pop.gate.net
From: "C.H. Glansdorp" <briareus@gate.net>
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>


Always happens. As soon as I post something, I figure it out.

Seems there's a pre-release beta-type Galaxy module on Opcode site that 
fixed all my OMS troubles.  Happy now.


+-----------------
| Christopher H. Glansdorp
| Cellist / Electric Cellist
+-----------------
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From briareus@ute.gate.net  Sat Oct 26 22:35:36 1996
Subject: Re: QS6 & Mac OMS help
From: "C.H. Glansdorp" <briareus@gate.net>
To: <pub@pacific-bridge-arts.com>


Hi, John and thanks.  Here's what I figured out so far.

>Re. the "no names in Studio Vision" What version of SV, Galaxy and OMS
>are you using?

For the record : SVPro 3.0.6, Galaxy+ 2.0.3, and OMS 2.2
>
>The User Bank will appear, but The Preset Banks will not, unless someone
>makes the Prest Banks name list available in Opcode format, or you type
>them into a name list. The reason is that when the Q6 downloads to
>Galaxy it only downloads the User Banks and Globals. This appears to be
>an Alesis thing. They may only publish the sysex for requesting the User
>Bank and Globals. Hey Alesis folks! Can we get any help here? Opcode
>claims there is no editor for the S4+ because of lack of support from
>Alesis ;>)
I got this far and was concerned that the QS6 wasn't even being 
identified by OMS since the CD came with a Galaxy librarian module (this 
is what controls the user banks).  So... I started poking around Opcode's 
ftp site and found a prerelease Galaxy module that said it's for the QS+, 
S4+, and the QS6-8.  Downloaded it, loaded it into Galaxy and success!  
The QS6 is an option in the OMS Setup and all preset banks are appearing 
in the hierarchy of the instrument popups in SVPro (after subscribing the 
bundle, of course).
>
>I've got a request in to Opcode for publishing an S4+ Preset Banks name
>list, you should do the same for the QS6. If everyone who owned an
>Alesis "whatever" and used an Opcode product made the request, then the
>chances would be much better that they would include the Preset Banks in
>the bundle definitions. Seems they have an intern at Opcode who just
>types in name lists for supported synths and his priorities are driven
>by user requests.
Well, since I'm at least getting them to show up now I'd really like to 
see a Galaxy EDITOR for the QS6 (or the rest of the series for that 
matter, I gather they're all pretty simlilar, since they appear to be 
able to use the same librarian module).  I'll put in a request.

Thanks for responding, and I hope others can make use of this info.


+-----------------
| Christopher H. Glansdorp
| Cellist / Electric Cellist
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From nivek@pcez.com  Mon Oct 28 01:54:48 1996
From: Chris Robin <nivek@pcez.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: User bank 104 on QS8


Was in the moozik store playing on a QS8....
I want that sound.  I guess I probably don't have the proper waveforms to 
get it via sysex dump though (on my QS+).  Also want that X Dance or 
whatever it was... 

-Chris
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From sladep@which.co.uk  Mon Oct 28 05:52:58 1996
From: sladep@which.co.uk
To: briareus@gate.net, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS6 & Mac OMS help


Christopher H. Glansdorp wrote:

>I seem to be having some trouble getting Opcode's OMS to recognize my QS6 
>(easy-identify does no good, and entering the info manually doesn't solve 
>my Names problems).  Therefore, I can't get anything other than the user 
>banks read into Galaxy, and nothing at all shows up when I subscribe the 
>bundle to be accessible in Studio Vision (it says there are no QS6 names 
>in the bundle).
>
>I'm hoping to be able to get both the preset and user banks into Galaxy 
>so I can do banks selects and patch selection by Name in Studio Vision.

If there isn't a QS6 definition/library supplied by Opcode then you won't
be able to subscribe to a bundle in Vision that contains all the presets.
Try Opcode's ftp site and look for new supported devices in the Galaxy
folder.

Otherwise, you can enter all the preset names into Vision via the names
window - it's a tedious job, but you'll only ever have to do it the once -
and save it as a names list.

Hope that's of some help to you...

peter slade
london, uk
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From sbancroft@molsci.com  Mon Oct 28 12:25:12 1996
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: "Sara Bancroft" <sbancroft@molsci.com>
Subject: QuadraSynth Plus Piano



Hi.
Les Winters informed me that I might be able to get some help here. I just
recently purchased a QS plus Piano from a dealer that doesn't know anything
about the product.  I am very new at MIDI and I don't have a computer.  All
I have is an old Tascam 4 track cassette recorder and an AKAI dual  tape
deck to make copies. 

I'm looking for someone to answer basic and possibly simple "recording"
questions and well as some kind of guidance through the Alesis owner's manual.  

If anyone is interested, let me know.
Thanks.
Sara Bancroft
San Diego, Ca.


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From abrisben@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Oct 28 13:40:41 1996
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Subject: QS6 2.00 & New Soundbridge release.


Alesis Releases QS6 2.00 and Soundbridge Upgrade.

Alesis is happy to announce the release of QS6 software version 2.00. 
Version 2.00 adds the ability for QS6 users to utilize new features 
included in the updated version of Sound Bridge software (Version 2.00 
for MAC and Version 1.2 for IBM). These features include the 
partitioning of cards in order to store samples, sysex, and standard 
midi files on the same card. Sound Bridge also allows the ability to 
playback standard midi files which have been 
transferred to RAM cards. 

QuadraSynth Plus Piano and S4 Plus users will be able to use the  
updated version of Sound Bridge, but will not have the ability to 
play back SMFs due to limitations of those products' hardware. Both 
units do have the ability to partition cards to store samples and system 
exclusive on the same card.

For the QS6, Version 2.00 software is available as an EPROM upgrade 
kit. This kit is user-installable and comes with all the necessary 
instructions and tools. The only other tool you will need is a 
Phillips type screwdriver. The upgrade is available free of charge to 
registered users who have purchased their units after July 1, 1996. A 
proof of sale is required to receive this upgrade free of charge. 
Otherwise, this EPROM upgrade is an enhancement to the original QS6 
operating system. All previous QS6 owners must purchase the upgrade 
through our Parts department at the cost of $39.99 (Plus any 
applicable sales tax and shipping charges).

The revised Sound Bridge software is currently available for both MAC 
and IBM operating systems. Soundbridge 2.00 for the Mac and 1.2 for 
the IBM are available as attachments. Simply send your request for 
the file to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com. You may also download the 
program at the Sound Bridge WWW: http://www.mok.com/bridge. 
Soundbridge will be included on the forthcoming CD ROM for the QS7 & 
8 which should be available within  the next two weeks. The CD ROM 
will be available for purchase through our parts department but only 
QS7 & 8 users are entitled to a copy of the disk free of charge. 

Users who did not receive a claim form with their QS7/8 for the CD ROM 
should call with their serial number ready. The CD will  be 
ordered upon verification of registration.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments. 

Alesis Technical Support
800-5ALESIS
800-525-3747


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From abrisben@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Oct 28 14:25:58 1996
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Subject: Re: QS6 2.00 & New Soundbridge release.


Correction, the previous announcement indicated the QS7 & 8 CD ROM were 
available for sale. This is not the case due to licensing issues. The CD ROM is 
only available for registered QS7 & 8 owners. I have made the correction below. 

Thanks, 

Adam Brisben
Technical Support
Alesis Corporation 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Alesis Releases QS6 2.00 and Soundbridge Upgrade.

Alesis is happy to announce the release of QS6 software version 2.00. 
Version 2.00 adds the ability for QS6 users to utilize new features 
included in the updated version of Sound Bridge software (Version 2.00 
for MAC and Version 1.2 for IBM). These features include the 
partitioning of cards in order to store samples, sysex, and standard 
midi files on the same card. Sound Bridge also allows the ability to 
playback standard midi files which have been 
transferred to RAM cards. 

QuadraSynth Plus Piano and S4 Plus users will be able to use the  
updated version of Sound Bridge, but will not have the ability to 
play back SMFs due to limitations of those products' hardware. Both 
units do have the ability to partition cards to store samples and system 
exclusive on the same card.

For the QS6, Version 2.00 software is available as an EPROM upgrade 
kit. This kit is user-installable and comes with all the necessary 
instructions and tools. The only other tool you will need is a 
Phillips type screwdriver. The upgrade is available free of charge to 
registered users who have purchased their units after July 1, 1996. A 
proof of sale is required to receive this upgrade free of charge. 
Otherwise, this EPROM upgrade is an enhancement to the original QS6 
operating system. All previous QS6 owners must purchase the upgrade 
through our Parts department at the cost of $39.99 (Plus any 
applicable sales tax and shipping charges).

The revised Sound Bridge software is currently available for both MAC 
and IBM operating systems. Soundbridge 2.00 for the Mac and 1.2 for 
the IBM are available as attachments. Simply send your request for 
the file to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com. You may also download the 
program at the Sound Bridge WWW: http://www.mok.com/bridge. 
Soundbridge will be included on the forthcoming CD ROM for the QS7 & 
8 which should be available shortly. Only QS7 & 8 users are entitled 
to a copy of the disk free of charge. The disk will not be available 
for purchase due to liscensing issues.

Users who did not receive a claim form with their QS7/8 for the CD ROM 
should call with their serial number ready. The CD will  be 
ordered upon verification of registration.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments. 

Alesis Technical Support
800-5ALESIS
800-525-3747


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From kaos@netime.com  Mon Oct 28 16:08:11 1996
From: kaos <kaos@netime.com>
Reply-To: kaos@netime.com
Organization: Organized Kaos
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Sample Cell Instrument format for Soundbridge



Does anyone have the Sample Cell Instrument format? I have a ton of
Ensoniq Sample Disks that I would like to convert and I don't feel like
creating instruments from the raw sample data. I assume that a Sample
Cell Instrument saves loop points, multiple samples, and key locations
in one location? Any help would be appreciated.

Tim
-- 
*-------------------------------------------*
*	Check out http://www.netime.com/~kaos   *
*  for Bryce Artwork, Midi files, Saturn & 	*
* Playstation thoughts,and daily commentary *
*                                          
*                                          
*             kaos@netime.com    -- Tim     *
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From chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com  Mon Oct 28 16:24:54 1996
To: kaos@netime.com
Subject: Re: Sample Cell Instrument format for Soundbridge 


> Does anyone have the Sample Cell Instrument format? I have a ton of
> Ensoniq Sample Disks that I would like to convert and I don't feel like
> creating instruments from the raw sample data. I assume that a Sample
> Cell Instrument saves loop points, multiple samples, and key locations
> in one location? Any help would be appreciated.

SampleCell separates sample data and instrument data. Sample files can
be either AIFF or SoundDesigner II format (each of which supports multiple 
loop points).

I have no idea whether Digidesign publishes the format of the instrument
files.

			-- Chan

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From bercikj@musc.edu  Wed Oct 30 08:55:15 1996
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Unisyn    OR    QS+ users



Just getting back into my QS+ and would like to correspond with folks on =
how to work with Mixes / Effects Bus and also any knowledgeable users of =
Unisyn for Windows. =20

Thanks,
John Bercik

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From RichM@smart.net  Thu Oct 31 13:12:54 1996
From: "Richard J. Mergner" <RichM@smart.net>
To: Quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: S4 Mac Edit/lib sw 


Hello,

I'm a newbie to this list, and a proud owner of a used
S4.  I've just upgraded my S4 to a S4+.
I'm using E-magic's Sound diver Edit/lib with my other
synth, yet I have'nt been able to find the SD modules/adaptations
for the Quadrasynth/S4.  Is there anyone on this list using Sound
Diver 1.5.7v7(Mac)with their Quadra/S4 for their editor/lib?
I would like know of other vendors making Mac editors for
Quadrasynth/S4?  Your opinions, suggestions, and comments on editors or 
any hints would be helpful to get the most form this wonderful 
instrument. You may email privately.
Thanks in advance.

Rich Mergner
RichM@Smart.net
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From mike@cse.unsw.edu.au  Thu Oct 31 19:24:38 1996
From: mike@cse.unsw.edu.au (Mike Bain)
To: RichM@smart.net (Richard J. Mergner)
Subject: Re: S4 Mac Edit/lib sw


> I'm a newbie to this list, and a proud owner of a used
> S4.  I've just upgraded my S4 to a S4+.
> I'm using E-magic's Sound diver Edit/lib with my other
> synth, yet I have'nt been able to find the SD modules/adaptations
> for the Quadrasynth/S4.  Is there anyone on this list using Sound
> Diver 1.5.7v7(Mac)with their Quadra/S4 for their editor/lib?

There isn't one. Apparently there will be in the next version, 1.6,
which is supposed to be released before the end of 1996. (It was going
to be in October ...). There is a list for sounddiver-users:

To SUBSCRIBE to the sounddiver-users-digest list, mail to:

        majordomo@mcc.ac.uk

The subject line is ignored; include the following text in the body:

	subscribe sounddiver-users-digest

NOTE: To POST to this list, mail **ONLY** to:

        sounddiver-users@mcc.ac.uk    Use NO OTHER address


Mike.
-- 
M. Bain, AI Dept,       (tel) +61 2 9385 3939                 _--_|\
UNSW, Sydney 2052,      (fax) +61 2 9385 1814                /      \
Australia.                                                   \_.--._*
mike@cse.unsw.edu.au    http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~mike/          v
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From debstar@ix.netcom.com  Fri Nov  1 02:49:52 1996
Message-ID: <3279E583.A6A@ix.netcom.com>
From: debstar <debstar@ix.netcom.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: effect


When using mix 99 pre 1 -- is there a way to change the effect?

My QS+piano seems to be stuck on effect 8.

Thanks a lot!
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Fri Nov  1 11:04:47 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: effect


On  1 Nov 96 at 2:49, debstar wrote:

> When using mix 99 pre 1 -- is there a way to change the effect?
> 
> My QS+piano seems to be stuck on effect 8.

Hi Deb,

Preset  99 will always be the same, you can only change it temporarily, 
and it will return to the preset values. In this mix the FX channel is #10,
so if you change the program on channel 10, the FX number will change with it.

Mix Pre 99 has drums assigned to channel 10, (D4 Power Kit) which is
program #8. This is why you see effects #8 all the time.

You can copy this mix to a User Bank location. The easiest way to do it is
pressing the STORE button twice. This will store the mix in User Bank 99.
Now you can change it, and save the changes for later use.  And remember,
whatever program is on channel 10, the same effects will be used for the whole
mix.

You may want to use a different channel for effects, here is how you do it :

After you copied the mix to User 99, hit the SELECT button. Using the
FUNCTION (BANK) buttons, go all the way to EFFECT.
Here you can select a MIDI channel for effect changes. (QUAD Knob 4)
Pick a channel you don't need for sequencing, like channel #16.
Now hit the MIX button to get out of editing, and press STORE twice, to
keep the changes.
You will be able to change effects, simply by assigning different programs 
to channel 16. Most of the time 15 channel is enough for sequencing, so
channel 16 can be reserved for FX. 

There is more, but this should get you started. 

Les


--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Fri Nov  1 11:26:18 1996
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Setting up Mixes



I am trying to make Mixes that represent a complete Song.  Programs 1 =
through 16 are different sounds and can have drums, bass, keys,  =
etc.....

I am finding that when I assign these programs to their mix positions =
(1-16) they now sound wrong because apparently they are getting their =
effects bus messed up.  Has anyone figured out a way to copy the effect =
bus of a patch?  This is very confusing for me.  Why the hell didn't =
they put 16 effects buses in it and charge another $500.  This bites.

Any suggestions appreciated.  Still not making music !

John Bercik

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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Fri Nov  1 11:36:05 1996
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Setting up Mixes


John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu> wrote:

>I am trying to make Mixes that represent a complete Song.  Programs 1 through 16 are >different sounds and can have drums, bass, keys,  etc.....
>
>I am finding that when I assign these programs to their mix positions (1-16) they now >sound wrong because apparently they are getting their effects bus messed up.  Has >anyone figured out a way to copy the effect bus of a patch?  This is very confusing >for me.  Why the hell didn't they put 16 effects buses in it and charge another $500. > This bites.
>
>Any suggestions appreciated.  Still not making music !
>
>John Bercik

A mix uses an effects patch from one of the programs in your mix.  In
the Mix Edit menu, choose Effect function, and set the FX Channel to
correspond to whichever program you want to use the effects from.

M
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Fri Nov  1 11:49:02 1996
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: A zillion Unisyn questions.  Still not making music.


NE1 know how to use Unisyn. =20

I am using Cubase Score for recording a QS+ and trying to use Unisyn for =
an Editor / Librarian along with a Midi Time Piece.

First, I am confused on Midi thru / echo channels.  Should I have cubase =
midi thru  or use Unisyn play channels or something else.  I have the =
keyboard set to OUT1 in the global mode.  Then when I want to just play =
my QS+ I have to change the mode back because the computer's not on.  =
I'm going nuts.

My goal is to:

Store libraries of mixes (programs/effects/mixes complete) in my pc and =
send individual or groups of  them back to the User Mix bank to whatever =
location I like. =20

Store the User bank and be able to send the whole bank back to the =
keyboard.

Does anyone have this QS+ midi thing working elegantly or am I still so =
confused I don't see the logic behind it (god I hope there's logic).

Let's say I've got 50 songs and each MIX (mix/programs/effects) =
represents a song.  Tonight we are going to play the songs in a =
different order.  Can I arrange the order of the mixes in the library in =
Unisyn and dump it back to the keyboard or will all the programs in the =
mixes and programs/effects start writing over each other?  HELP !

I also have a drum set going through the Midi Time Piece and hate that I =
have to have the computer on to pass a drum midi to the keyboard.  Hate =
it.  I guess the computer has to be on!

I also get Unisyn saying it can't find the Time Piece, want to retry.  =
When I retry it usually works.  Any ideas why so unreliable?  This is a =
486-100 16 mb ram.

Thanks,

John Bercik

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Fri Nov  1 11:55:24 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Setting up Mixes



On  1 Nov 96 at 11:36, Mitch wrote:

> John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu> wrote:
> 
> >I am trying to make Mixes that represent a complete Song.  Programs 1 through
> >16 are >different sounds and can have drums, bass, keys,  etc.....
> >
> >I am finding that when I assign these programs to their mix positions (1-16)
> >they now >sound wrong because apparently they are getting their effects bus
> >messed up.  Has >anyone figured out a way to copy the effect bus of a patch? 
> >This is very confusing >for me.  Why the hell didn't they put 16 effects
> >buses in it and charge another $500. > This bites.
> >
> >Any suggestions appreciated.  Still not making music !
> >
> >John Bercik
> 
> A mix uses an effects patch from one of the programs in your mix.  In
> the Mix Edit menu, choose Effect function, and set the FX Channel to
> correspond to whichever program you want to use the effects from.
> 
> M


You can also control the FX LEVEL,  and select one of the four available
 FX Buses  for each channel.

Les


  
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From abrisben@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Nov  1 13:12:41 1996
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
to: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Les



Les, 

I am still not receiving any of the mailings from the list. I sent 
that last message you sent me to our sysop to look at, but I didn't 
hear back from him. 

Please reply as I don't have your email address and there was 
something I needed to ask you about. 

Thanks, 
Adam

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Fri Nov  1 14:01:00 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: A zillion Unisyn questions.  Still not making music.


On  1 Nov 96 at 11:49, John Bercik wrote:

> I am using Cubase Score for recording a QS+ and trying to use Unisyn for an
> Editor / Librarian along with a Midi Time Piece.
> 
> First, I am confused on Midi thru / echo channels.  Should I have cubase midi
> thru  or use Unisyn play channels or something else.  I have the keyboard set
> to OUT1 in the global mode.  Then when I want to just play my QS+ I have to
> change the mode back because the computer's not on.  I'm going nuts.

Why would you set your keyboard to OUT1? I never do that. Set it to
CHANNEL SOLO, and you can use it all the time, except when you play
layered mixes, in which case NORMAL mode is the way to go.
Or if you like OUT1 so much, use your Time Piece, to route the signal back
to the QS. 

> My goal is to:
> 
> Store libraries of mixes (programs/effects/mixes complete) in my pc and send
> individual or groups of  them back to the User Mix bank to whatever location I
> like.  
> 
> Store the User bank and be able to send the whole bank back to the keyboard.


This is what Librarian programs do, I have no problems with UNISYN, it's quite 
simple to make any kind of customized banks with it. If you don't like it, try the
QuadraSynth Editor (QE2.0), you can download a free demo from my page.

> 
> Does anyone have this QS+ midi thing working elegantly or am I still so
> confused I don't see the logic behind it (god I hope there's logic).

You look slightly impatient to me... Give it some time, you'll get the hang of 
it.
 
> Let's say I've got 50 songs and each MIX (mix/programs/effects) represents a
> song.  Tonight we are going to play the songs in a different order.  Can I
> arrange the order of the mixes in the library in Unisyn and dump it back to
> the keyboard or will all the programs in the mixes and programs/effects start
> writing over each other?  HELP !

Yes, you can do that. If you dump full banks, you will overwrite the User
bank every time. You have the option, to store individual mixes, and overwrite
only the locations where you choose to store them. 
It would be easier, if you would give numbers to those songs, and make a 
playlist instead of rearranging the whole bank. If tonight you start with 
song #50, then use mix #50 first. That's how I would do it...
 
> I also have a drum set going through the Midi Time Piece and hate that I have
> to have the computer on to pass a drum midi to the keyboard.  Hate it.  I
> guess the computer has to be on!

I don't think the computer is needed for the Time Piece to work as a MIDI
patchbay/merger. It has a 8x8 MIDI matrix, and you can route anything to
anywhere with it. You need the computer only to program it, once you 
stored the settings, they can be recalled from any MIDI source, or by
using the front panel buttons.
 
> I also get Unisyn saying it can't find the Time Piece, want to retry.  When I
> retry it usually works.  Any ideas why so unreliable?  This is a 486-100 16 mb
> ram.

Well, that's a MOTU thing, it happens. You may want to check with
MOTU, they may have a software upgrade available for your TP.

Les

--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From progmon@eden.com  Fri Nov  1 15:07:02 1996
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
To: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
CC: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: A zillion Unisyn questions.  Still not making music.



John Bercik wrote:
> 
> 
> First, I am confused on Midi thru / echo channels.  Should I have cubase midi thru  or use Unisyn play channels or something else.  I have the keyboard set to OUT1 in the global mode.  

With a sequencer OUT1 is the best mode.  To play live you have to switch
back to normal.  Make sure the unisyn play channel is OFF when you are
multitasking with Cubase, and turn it on when you are using Unisyn stand
alone.  If you are in Normal, have Cubase thru ON and Play channel ON
you are creating a very nasty loop (typically crashes either the
keyboard or sequencer after a while).

I find it easier to edit mixes from the front panel of my qs8.  Programs
are far easier to do in Unisyn.

> 
> Let's say I've got 50 songs and each MIX (mix/programs/effects) represents a song.  Tonight we are going to play the songs in a different order.  Can I arrange the order of the mixes in the library in Unisyn and dump it back to the keyboard or will all the programs in the mixes and programs/effects start writing over each other? 

No problem there.  The mixes can be rearranged and stored any way you
like.  Doesn't overwrite prgrams or FX.  keep in mind that mixes "point
to" programs.  However, if you alter a program within a mix, you alter
it for all mixes.  You can make many different walls with the same
bricks, but as soon as you change the bricks, all the walls change.

> 
> I also have a drum set going through the Midi Time Piece and hate that I have to have the computer on to pass a drum midi to the keyboard.  Hate it.  I guess the computer has to be on!

The time piece should be able to route any input to any output.  I dont
have one, but all these interfaces do that.
> 
> I also get Unisyn saying it can't find the Time Piece, want to retry.  When I retry it usually works.  Any ideas why so unreliable?  This is a 486-100 16 mb ram.

I had a problem like that and couldn't figure it out till I rechecked
every cable and found one was patched to the wrong machine.
> 


-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		       Vibes Comes Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From progmon@eden.com  Fri Nov  1 15:23:15 1996
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
To: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
CC: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up Mixes

		      John Bercik wrote:
> 
> I am trying to make Mixes that represent a complete Song.  Programs 1 through 16 are different sounds and can have drums, bass, keys,  etc.....
> 
> I am finding that when I assign these programs to their mix positions (1-16) they now sound wrong because apparently they are getting their effects bus messed up.  Has anyone figured out a way to copy the effect bus of a patch?  This is very confusing for me.  Why the hell didn't they put 16 effects buses in it and charge another $500.  This bites.
> 
You should build your mix by choosing the most important patch first and
put it on the FX channel--all other channels use the same FX.  You need
to note what type of fx config it is so you know which busses are
active.  Then you re-route programs to those busses if you want.  Its
tricky, you only get one FX config per mix.  You need to know what each
bus does. 

I too would like to see a unit with discrete FX for every channel, but
it would cost alot of money to make one.  
 Vibes Comes Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
_________________________visit my page_______________________________
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From chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com  Fri Nov  1 16:44:53 1996
To: progmon@eden.com
Cc: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up Mixes 
From: Channing Benson <chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com>

--------

> You should build your mix by choosing the most important patch first and
> put it on the FX channel--all other channels use the same FX.  You need
> to note what type of fx config it is so you know which busses are
> active.  Then you re-route programs to those busses if you want.  Its
> tricky, you only get one FX config per mix.  You need to know what each
> bus does.

I take a different approach. The fx config of the most important patch may 
not have enough variability in the context of a mix, especially ones that
use the EQ config (you don't want all your voices to be EQ'd the same).

I have one user patch for each of the fx configs useful for mixes. I'll
then do my best to duplicate the reverb and other important settings for 
the "most important patch". Then I'll try to set up a bus path appropriate
for the other parts.

			-- Chan

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From GADDmidi@aol.com  Fri Nov  1 17:14:47 1996
From: GADDmidi@aol.com
To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: need driver



I have a Q5 and i need a driver for my music quest  card its a roland 401 
my disk does not work anymore ......can anyone tell me were i can find  one
or      thanks ????????????
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Fri Nov  1 17:27:42 1996
From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: need driver


On  1 Nov 96 at 17:14, GADDmidi@aol.com wrote:

> I have a Q5 and i need a driver for my music quest  card its a roland 401 my
> disk does not work anymore ......can anyone tell me were i can find  one or   
>   thanks ????????????

Since Music Quest  belongs to OPCODE now, I would try this one :

       http://www.opcode.com/downloads/pc_hardware/

Les
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Fri Nov  1 17:29:48 1996
From: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@spherecom.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: QS8 pianos


Hi,
	I've recently purchased a QS8 and have just about got through the
initial exploratory period.  Now that I'm starting to play music rather
than just explore its capabilities I'm finding that the pianos are "not
very playable".  Even when played softly I find there is too much of a
bright piano attack making it difficult to draw out a melody from an
accompaniment in the same hand.  It is as if the main velocity
sensitivity is amplitude rather than timbre sensitivity.  I am currently
playing with filter settings and am improving things (from my point of
view) although I feel that using the filter is a poor compromise for
"velocity cross-fading multi samples".   Am I right in suspecting that a
cause of this problem is limited space for the piano samples?  If so,
would I also be right in hoping that the same problem doesn't exist when
using the Grand Piano Quadra Card?  I want to try the piano card but my
local dealer doesn't have one yet.

Any opinions on this one greatfully received.  I need a sanity check!

Steve


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From little@cs.ucsd.edu  Fri Nov  1 18:21:42 1996
From: little@cs.ucsd.edu (Glenn Little)
To: SMoorby@spherecom.com, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re:  QS8 pianos


>  initial exploratory period.  Now that I'm starting to play music rather
>  than just explore its capabilities I'm finding that the pianos are "not
>  very playable".  Even when played softly I find there is too much of a
>  bright piano attack making it difficult to draw out a melody from an
>  accompaniment in the same hand.  It is as if the main velocity
>  sensitivity is amplitude rather than timbre sensitivity.  I am currently
>  playing with filter settings and am improving things (from my point of
>  view) although I feel that using the filter is a poor compromise for
>  "velocity cross-fading multi samples".   Am I right in suspecting that a

  I had this same problem.  It just doesn't feel right, and is very
  difficult or impossible to play tenderly and have it be nice
  and warm and rich.  I spent some time with the original piano
  card, and made this complaint.  Dave Bryce said that there
  was a new patch on the QS7 and QS8 that, although it didn't
  use new samples, supposedly used clever programming and
  velocity modulation of the sample start point to simulate
  softer response.  I briefly tried a QS7, and couldn't really
  find a marked improvement, but I didn't really spend a lot
  of time with it since I pretty much nixed it due to the 
  key hinge point.  I really really need keys with a hinge that's
  deeper into the body of the instrument.

  When I was messing with the piano on a QS6 in the store, I was
  having a little bit of luck by almost completely undoing the
  amplitude's response to velocity, and just using the velocity-
  modulated filter.  Like you said, it's not the choicest solution, 
  but at least it felt somewhat closer to how a piano feels.

  I don't think the card will help you, but you probably should
  get word from Dave Bryce on that one.

		-glenn
		glittle@ucsd.edu

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From progmon@eden.com  Fri Nov  1 19:10:53 1996
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
To: Channing Benson <chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com>
CC: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Setting up Mixes


Channing Benson wrote:
> 

> 
> I have one user patch for each of the fx configs useful for mixes. I'll
> then do my best to duplicate the reverb and other important settings for
> the "most important patch". Then I'll try to set up a bus path appropriate
> for the other parts.

Excellent Tip!  Certainly offers the most control that way.  often i
work too fast to want to spend a few minutes on that, so I sacrifice
channel 16 as the FX channel and just start running through programs. 
The FX changes with every program change and it usually doesn't take
long before I've found a great sounding config.  With 640 in the machine
one is bound to find something that sounds good without tweaking
anything. Of course the program attached to the FX might not be
appropriate for the song, that's why its "sacrificing" the channel.  

-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		    Best Vibes Comes Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca  Sat Nov  2 02:31:51 1996
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca (Bob Forsyth)
Subject: A few questions						



Ok..............lets see if I can ask this right.

I have a QS+, and there are still(!) som things I havn't quite got.

1) In the Manual, page 149, in the appendix, it is stated that if I have Midi
Prog select on, that editing a channel's level will send out controller 7 data
on that channel.
	I have tried this and have not had any results.........the Midi monitor on
my sequencer(Cubase) shows no transmission of data.
Anyone had any similar results? I double checked to make sure Gm wasn't on
and Midi Prog select was on...............what gives?

2) Bank select. I am supposed to be able to change banks by sending
controller 0 with a corresponding value. I have tried this with GM off and
get no results........any ideas guys?

By the way, when I converted Karnevil 9 over to a mid file, some thing was
lost in the translation(I think I have too little memory on my mega STe to
do the job propely), as a result, some of the notes gained EXTREMELY long
values. Tp here the song as it should be, check your piano roll display of
each track and edit the notes to the proper values, else it sounds like a
continuous drone through the song.

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From ACaron7747@aol.com  Sun Nov  3 00:47:43 1996
From: ACaron7747@aol.com
To: SMoorby@spherecom.com, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS8 pianos


>than just explore its capabilities I'm finding that the pianos >are "not
>very playable".  Even when played softly I find there is too >much of a
>bright piano attack making it difficult to draw out a melody >from an
----------


If the QS8 pianos are like those on the Plus, your concerns are very
justified. I encountered the same problem and I came
up with a compromise solution: by using the tracking generator to create a
radical envelope (only really opens at very hard velocities) combined with an
initially closed filter, I achieve a lot more dynamic response than, let's
say the True Stereo preset. The downside is an attack that is not really
natural, but overall a much more expressive sound. I know I wrote that
already, but I am going to post some of those patches "soon". 
Antoine Caron
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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Sun Nov  3 23:26:46 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Noise during RT effect change on QS8
To: Quadra-Synth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>


Has anyone else noticed considerable noise while using the 4 control
sliders real time on a QS8?  One patch where it is really noticable is
on PRG USER 104 HiPassCtrl  (default user bank)  When you move
controller A, there is a digital "clicking" noise.  This is apperarnt on
many other patches too.  Has anyone else noticed this, and is there a
fix if so?

Thanks
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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Mon Nov  4 01:13:10 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Re: Noise during RT effect change on QS8
To: Quadra-Synth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>


Thanks much Bruce, that fixed it.  Anyone out there know why this
happens?  Seems a little strange to me...  Dave?  This seems to
eliminate the noise from the other patches I was having problems with,
though I havn't checked them all...

Thanks again!

Bruce M. Satinover wrote:
> 
> >Has anyone else noticed considerable noise while using the 4 control
> >sliders real time on a QS8?  One patch where it is really noticable is
> >on PRG USER 104 HiPassCtrl  (default user bank)  When you move
> >controller A, there is a digital "clicking" noise.  This is apperarnt on
> >many other patches too.  Has anyone else noticed this, and is there a
> >fix if so?
> 
> There is zipper noise on 104 HiPassCtrl when used as a program. Try it in
> multi mode USER MIX OO Multitmbrl. The effects are slightly different and
> there is no noise. Control slider A works fine, the other three sliders work
> a bit differently but this effects configuration works fine.
> 
> I'm basing this off a QS7 but the patches should be identical to the QS8.
> Hope this helps
> 
> Bruce S.
> MoinK! Productions
> "but is it music?..."
> Thrill to the sound of genuine replicated music:
> http://midiworld.com/bruno.htm
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From p_sicard@jump.net  Mon Nov  4 08:36:33 1996
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: Paul Sicard <p_sicard@jump.net>
Subject: PCMIA cards


Anyone know a good source for a PCMIA SRAM card I can put in my QS6?  I
tried a local computer/electronics store, but they had no clue.
                                        Thanks
                                                Paul Sicard

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From bercikj@musc.edu  Mon Nov  4 08:48:13 1996
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Unisyn question


NE1 know why when I dump a patch to the QS+ the patch plays fine but is =
not being saved to any location?  Is it being put in some temp buffer.  =
Is there a way force a save to a User location instead of this temp =
area?

Thanks,
John Bercik

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From jankowsk@chass.utoronto.ca  Mon Nov  4 12:21:06 1996
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: jankowsk@chass.utoronto.ca (Chester Jankowski)
Subject: Re: Unisyn question


There are two separate sysex dump commands for programs, one dumps to
either the program edit buffer or one of the 16 mix edit buffers, the other
dumps to a specific user location. You'll need to edit the send-patch
script in Unisyn. I've changed my Galaxy script to send patches to a mix
edit buffer. I always use a mix buffer so that I can reference new patches
to a standard mix effect.

Anyway, these are the commands:

F0 00 00 0E 0E 00 <program#> <data> F7

dumps to user location <program#>

F0 00 00 0E 0E 02 <edit#> <data> F7

dumps to an edit buffer. 0 is the program edit buffer, 1-16 dumps to the
mix edit buffers.

This is all for the QS. Is it the same for a QS+?


<http://www.chass.utoronto.ca:8080/~jankowsk/>

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From RichM@smart.net  Mon Nov  4 12:17:23 1996
From: "Richard J. Mergner" <RichM@smart.net>
To: Quadrasynth list <Quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Flash RAM Cards



Hello,

Can anyone recommend a mail order vendor
for purchasing either 4/8MB Flash RAM Cards for
the Quadrasynth/S4?
What are the current/best prices?

Thanks

Rich Mergner
RichM@Smart.net
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Mon Nov  4 13:30:19 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: QuadraSynth 8 meg Cards


Hello everyone,
I'm new to the list. I Recently bought a QS6 and i'm looking for an 8 meg 
PCMIA Blank Card so I can
start using Sound Brige.  Anyone having  resource info with good prices please 
respond.  Also,  know
any thrid-party companies who have the best sounding samples for the buck to 
go on the 8 meg card?
I have the 8 meg Stereo Grand Piano Card by Alesis, not bad but certainly room 
for imporvement.
Are any of the new cards by Alesis going to have more piano samples on them?  
One more question . . .
Is there a way of retrieving a sample from a sound card (like the 8 meg Stereo 
Grand Piano) so it can
then be edited my computer?  Certainly someone has found a way to do this, I 
hope.

Thanks-  Andy Blanchard
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From RobertREI@aol.com  Mon Nov  4 17:57:57 1996
From: RobertREI@aol.com
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: FAQ on the list



Hello.
     I've got an idea.  Would it be possible (if you think it's a good idea)
to have a FAQ accessable via this mailing list?  For instance, I might be
able to send the command, FAQ, to the listserver and have an e-mail with FAQ
in it sent back to me.  The FAQ would then contain info on such re-occurring
list topics like Flash RAM cards for QS synths, the FAQ from the Quadrasynth
Page, etc.  That way, that information would be convieniently located right
here and directly obtainable through e-mail.  Then, perhaps the excess
massages dealing with FAQ's would be reduced.  In the list e-mail signature,
a line would say something like, "To receive a FAQ, send a message to
qs-request@midiworld.com and include the command FAQ in the subject line," in
order to make it plain to be seen that it's available.
     As I said, it's just an idea.  I don't know if it's worth it or if it's
even possible, but I thought I'd throw it out to you all (and to Les) to see
what any thoughts were.  Thanks.  Ba-bye.

God's peace,
Rob

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From debstar@ix.netcom.com  Mon Nov  4 19:18:55 1996
From: debstar <debstar@ix.netcom.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: mix 99 (16 channels)....


I've been using mix 99 with Jammer. Sometimes changing the banks
will work and at other times, not.  Maybe someone could tell me
if there's another setting that I should or shouldn't make on
the QS+Piano.

I'm still hobbling along with my knowledge of the Alesis, but despite
that, I've got some great demo tapes ready to be sent out. Maybe a
little handholding will work -- anyone care to help a newbie who's
using Jammer?
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From sswain@tartarus.uwa.edu.au  Mon Nov  4 19:59:12 1996
From: Stuart Swain <sswain@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Random program jumping on QS+
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com


Hi...

Last night at about 2am I wasn't really in the mood for this so I went
back to bed... but... 

My QS+ seems to sometimes jump to a random program when changing the 
program on one channel of a mix, or when in program mode. It doesn't
only happen when I'm in my sequencing package so I know it doesn't
have anything to do with that. A reset of my QS seemed to fix the
problem last night... not sure if it always has.

Anyone experienced this before?

Stu
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From pbadcock@cochlear.com.au  Tue Nov  5 03:11:25 1996
From: pbadcock@cochlear.com.au
To: mike@cse.unsw.edu.au (Mike Bain)
Subject: Sound driver users digest


Hi Mike and others,
a few days ago Mike posted an address to subscribe to for those 
interested in receiveing sound driver digests.  I tried subscribing 
but got the error message that my email was undeliverable.
Is this list still active?
regards
Peter



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Subject: Re: S4 Mac Edit/lib sw
Author:  mike@cse.unsw.edu.au (Mike Bain) at INTERNET
Date:    11/1/96 11:30 AM


> I'm a newbie to this list, and a proud owner of a used 
> S4.  I've just upgraded my S4 to a S4+.
> I'm using E-magic's Sound diver Edit/lib with my other
> synth, yet I have'nt been able to find the SD modules/adaptations 
> for the Quadrasynth/S4.  Is there anyone on this list using Sound 
> Diver 1.5.7v7(Mac)with their Quadra/S4 for their editor/lib?

There isn't one. Apparently there will be in the next version, 1.6, 
which is supposed to be released before the end of 1996. (It was going 
to be in October ...). There is a list for sounddiver-users:

To SUBSCRIBE to the sounddiver-users-digest list, mail to:

        majordomo@mcc.ac.uk

The subject line is ignored; include the following text in the body:

 subscribe sounddiver-users-digest

NOTE: To POST to this list, mail **ONLY** to:

        sounddiver-users@mcc.ac.uk    Use NO OTHER address


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From 0222510590-0001@t-online.de  Tue Nov  5 14:39:03 1996
From: Ulrich Becker <0222510590-0001@t-online.de>
To:Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7 Aftertouch


Hi there,

Finally I had my QS7 delivered today, spent nearly the whole day playing 
it and am very satisfied with it. The only problem I discovered is that 
the aftertouch seems to be non-functional. There are no aftertouch 
messages sent to MIDI out, nor does the aftertouch have any influence on 
any sound (e.g. Hold&Sampl), even if I set aftertouch -> pitch to +12 
semi-tones or things like that. Fearing that the synthesizer was 
damaged, I ran the onboard tests, i.e. I held down 00 and 0 on power-up, 
then pressed 8 to select TEST POTS, pressed STORE to start and varied 
the pressure on several keys. The value in the top-right corner seemed 
respond in the correct way (1023 with no key pressure at all and 
decreasing values with increasing pressure). So there seems to be no 
physical damage to the QS (BTW: All other tests were successfully 
passed). I am now wondering whether I made a mistake, there is a 
sowftware problem or whatever. PLEASE HELP!

Thanks in advance,

Daniel Becker.

BTW: What exactly does the lower-right value in the TEST POTS display 
show? I could not get any non-zero value.
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From 0222510590-0001@t-online.de  Tue Nov  5 14:50:50 1996
From: Ulrich Becker <0222510590-0001@t-online.de>
To:Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7 Aftertouch


Hi there,

Finally I had my QS7 delivered today, spent nearly the whole day playing 
it and am very satisfied with it. The only problem I discovered is that 
the aftertouch seems to be non-functional. There are no aftertouch 
messages sent to MIDI out, nor does the aftertouch have any influence on 
any sound (e.g. Hold&Sampl), even if I set aftertouch -> pitch to +12 
semi-tones or things like that. Fearing that the synthesizer was 
damaged, I ran the onboard tests, i.e. I held down 00 and 0 on power-up, 
then pressed 8 to select TEST POTS, pressed STORE to start and varied 
the pressure on several keys. The value in the top-right corner seemed 
respond in the correct way (1023 with no key pressure at all and 
decreasing values with increasing pressure). So there seems to be no 
physical damage to the QS (BTW: All other tests were successfully 
passed). I am now wondering whether I made a mistake, there is a 
sowftware problem or whatever. PLEASE HELP!

Thanks in advance,

Daniel Becker.

BTW: What exactly does the lower-right value in the TEST POTS display 
show? I could not get any non-zero value.
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Tue Nov  5 15:00:45 1996
Message-ID: <01BBCB2A.9C6BDC40@Tull.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        "'Mark of the Unicorn Tech Support'" <techsupport@motu.com>
Subject: QS+ and Unisyn questions  (get on your thinking caps, let's see where did I put mine......)





First, thanks to all who have replied to my posts.  Yes I am very =
impatient (that's why I deleted NT4 this week and went back to win95). =
Too slow.  First the good news.=20

I do have Unisyn.  So far the new Unisyn driver 2.1.3 seems to now have =
me talking reliably to my QS+.  This was good news as I had to change =
the motherboard just to get the card working.  No wonder I'm impatient.  =
No more "not responding, retry?".  Oh, well progress.....

My desire is to write songs.  I think of each song as a MIX that is made =
up of 16 PROGRAMS and its EFFECTS in the Quadrasynth Plus world.  So, A =
Song =3D A Mix + 16 Programs + its Effects.

Let's say I've got 50 songs and each MIX (mix/programs/effects) =
represents a
song.  Tonight we are going to play the songs in a different order.  Can =
I
arrange the order of the mixes in the library in Unisyn and dump it back =
to
the keyboard or will all the programs in the mixes and programs/effects =
start
writing over each other?  HELP !  When I drag a mix in Unisyn Library. =
It overwrites the current one, rather than moving it down in the list.

Les responsed:
Yes, you can do that. If you dump full banks, you will overwrite the =
User
bank every time. You have the option, to store individual mixes, and =
overwrite
only the locations where you choose to store them.=20
It would be easier, if you would give numbers to those songs, and make a =

playlist instead of rearranging the whole bank. If tonight you start =
with=20
song #50, then use mix #50 first. That's how I would do it...

Question 1:  What is a playlist and how can I make one work for me in =
this situation please?

Question 2:  As I branch out and load Custom PROGRAMS in the USER bank =
and Ram card using soundbridge and such , what strategy can I use to =
keep my songs integrity (SONG=3DMix + Programs + Effects), so as the set =
list changes, I can just dump my "Playlist" and be ready to go with the =
songs in the new order and programs/effects not overwritten?

Thanks again to all,

John Bercik




Thanks for your time,

John Bercik
Systems Manager
Medical University of SC
Work: 803-792-6729, Home: 803-762-4809

Home Address:
1965 Leadenwah Dr.
Wadmalaw, SC 29487

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From ppp067c@main.citynet.net  Tue Nov  5 18:17:28 1996
Message-Id: <199611052319.SAA17897@main.citynet.net>
Subject: Re: QS7 Aftertouch
x-sender: ppp067c@main.citynet.net

From: "Kurt K. Knopp" <kknopp@citynet.net>
To: "QS list" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>





>Hi there,
>
>Finally I had my QS7 delivered today, spent nearly the whole day playing 
>it and am very satisfied with it. The only problem I discovered is that 
>the aftertouch seems to be non-functional. There are no aftertouch 
>messages sent to MIDI out, nor does the aftertouch have any influence on 
>any sound (e.g. Hold&Sampl), even if I set aftertouch -> pitch to +12 
>semi-tones or things like that. Fearing that the synthesizer was 
>damaged, I ran the onboard tests, i.e. I held down 00 and 0 on power-up, 
>then pressed 8 to select TEST POTS, pressed STORE to start and varied 
>the pressure on several keys. The value in the top-right corner seemed 

Speaking of the QS's onboard tests, I have a QS6 and when I test the 
SOUND ROM it fails at 2032K.  The same thing happens with a floor model 
QS6 at the local music store.  Is this a problem?


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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Wed Nov  6 10:24:01 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+Xj8UmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: PCMCIA Card/Samples





Hello everyone-

Is there a way to retrieve samples off of a ROM (not RAM) card to a computer 
via-midi?  If so, how?

Thanks-  Andy
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Wed Nov  6 23:46:40 1996
Message-Id: <199611070400.WAA19860@kcsg1.kcstar.com>
X-Sender: donovan@mail.kcstar.com
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Card/Samples



>Is there a way to retrieve samples off of a ROM (not RAM) card to a
computer via-midi?

Nope.  That's why they're on the cards instead of a CD-ROM--they're Alesis's
bread and butter.  I met Dave Boyce last week at an Alesis clinic (where I
finally got to play a QS8), and he went into detail about this.  Now, I'm
SURE there are some enterprising whizzes out there who could figger it out,
but I'm not one of 'em.  : )

Derek

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From bercikj@musc.edu  Thu Nov  7 08:47:14 1996
Message-ID: <01BBCC88.3BE4F5A0@pcbercik.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        "'Mark of the Unicorn Tech Support'" <techsupport@motu.com>
Subject: QS+ and Unisyn questions





First, thanks to all who have replied to my posts.  Yes I am very =
impatient (that's why I deleted NT4 this week and went back to win95). =
Too slow.  First the good news.=20

I do have Unisyn.  So far the new Unisyn driver 2.1.3 seems to now have =
me talking reliably to my QS+.  This was good news as I had to change =
the motherboard just to get the card working.  No wonder I'm impatient.  =
No more "not responding, retry?".  Oh, well progress.....

My desire is to write songs.  I think of each song as a MIX that is made =
up of 16 PROGRAMS and its EFFECTS in the Quadrasynth Plus world.  So, A =
Song =3D A Mix + 16 Programs + its Effects.

Let's say I've got 50 songs and each MIX (mix/programs/effects) =
represents a
song.  Tonight we are going to play the songs in a different order.  Can =
I
arrange the order of the mixes in the library in Unisyn and dump it back =
to
the keyboard or will all the programs in the mixes and programs/effects =
start
writing over each other?  HELP !  When I drag a mix in Unisyn Library. =
It overwrites the current one, rather than moving it down in the list.

Les responsed:
Yes, you can do that. If you dump full banks, you will overwrite the =
User
bank every time. You have the option, to store individual mixes, and =
overwrite
only the locations where you choose to store them.=20
It would be easier, if you would give numbers to those songs, and make a =

playlist instead of rearranging the whole bank. If tonight you start =
with=20
song #50, then use mix #50 first. That's how I would do it...

Question 1:  What is a playlist and how can I make one work for me in =
this situation please?

Question 2:  As I branch out and load Custom PROGRAMS in the USER bank =
and Ram card using soundbridge and such , what strategy can I use to =
keep my songs integrity (SONG=3DMix + Programs + Effects), so as the set =
list changes, I can just dump my "Playlist" and be ready to go with the =
songs in the new order and programs/effects not overwritten?

Thanks again to all,

John Bercik


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From senip@j51.com  Thu Nov  7 09:01:15 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199611071358.IAA04897@j51.com>
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Card/Samples
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
In-Reply-To: <199611070400.WAA19860@kcsg1.kcstar.com> from "Derek Donovan" at Nov 6, 96 11:46:40 pm
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b]





> 
> >Is there a way to retrieve samples off of a ROM (not RAM) card to a
> computer via-midi?
> 
> Nope.  That's why they're on the cards instead of a CD-ROM--they're Alesis's
> bread and butter.  I met Dave Boyce last week at an Alesis clinic (where I
> finally got to play a QS8), and he went into detail about this.  Now, I'm
> SURE there are some enterprising whizzes out there who could figger it out,
> but I'm not one of 'em.  : )
> 
> Derek
> 

	Is there a list of locations for these clinics? I'd love to go 
check out a QS8, since I can't seem to find one at the local music 
stores. Thanks for any info.


					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sat Nov  9 12:55:18 1996
Message-Id: <199611091755.MAA08687@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com



Subject: QS-list problems





Hi Everyone,

Due to a hard-drive crash on the server, the QS mailing list was down on all 
day Friday, and Saturday morning. Now it's back, sorry about the inconvinience.
For those of you, who tried to send a message to the list, or to me, during 
this period, please send them again.

Thanks,

Les
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From jsampson@pan-tex.net  Sat Nov  9 19:07:32 1996
Message-ID: <32853921.37AC@pan-tex.net>
From: J T Sampson <jsampson@pan-tex.net>
Organization: MidiSam Jams
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I)

To: QuadraSynth Users <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Mix / Program Mode switching




QS+P Users,

Does anyone no how to switch between program and mix mode from a
sequencer such as Cakewalk Pro.  I'd like to dump a mix via sysex to set
up the QS, but it must be in mix mode to start with.  The dump is not
accepted in program mode and it won't switch to mix mode via midi.

I'd appreciate any info, Thanks

JT   jsampson@pan-tex.net
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sat Nov  9 19:41:15 1996
Message-Id: <199611100041.TAA07204@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Mix / Program Mode switching





On  9 Nov 96 at 19:07, J T Sampson wrote:

> QS+P Users,
> 
> Does anyone no how to switch between program and mix mode from a
> sequencer such as Cakewalk Pro.  I'd like to dump a mix via sysex to set
> up the QS, but it must be in mix mode to start with.  The dump is not
> accepted in program mode and it won't switch to mix mode via midi.

JT,

Here is the sysex message that will switch to mix mode: 

                                        F0 00 00 0E 0E 0D 01 F7 
You may also want to be sure the QS is not in GM mode, so you can send 
a GM OFF message too :

                                           F0 7E 7F 09 02 F7 

 Open SYSX view in Cakewalk, hit Edit Bytes, and type or paste it in.
Save it as a sysex file for later use.

I will post a few of these useful sysex files on the QS Page soon.

Les
 
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Sun Nov 10 15:35:43 1996
Message-ID: <01BBCF1D.575F86A0@Tull.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        "'Mark of the Unicorn Tech Support'" <techsupport@motu.com>
Subject: QS effects questions





Since you can only have one effects patch (4 individual effects per
program) for a mix, is there a way to copy individual effects from one 
program to the patch of other programs. 

Like if my drum program is using effect 1 in its effect patch and my 
piano is using effect 1 in its effect patch.

When I make a mix I want to set the drum program as the effect patch to 
be used for the entire mix and I want to assign the drum to its effect 
1, copy the piano effect to patch 2 and assign the piano program to 
effect patch, then copy other programs effects to effect patches 3 & 4.

How are people doing this or what are some workarounds if this can't be 
done.  The effects are quite intricate and can take a long time to copy 
on paper.

Thanks,
John Bercik


Thanks for your time,

John Bercik
Systems Manager
Medical University of SC
Work: 803-792-6729, Home: 803-762-4809

Home Address:
1965 Leadenwah Dr.
Wadmalaw, SC 29487

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To: "Quadrasynth Mailing List" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
From: Paul Cady <pcady@ductape.org>
Subject: FlashCards and QuadraCards



I saw a bunch of posts asking about Flash RAM cards but I never saw any
responses so I'll ask again: 

Anybody have a source for purchasing AMD FlashCards cheaper than Alesis?
Alesis Tech Support themselves said they were available cheaper elsewhere.

Also, I'd be interested in hearing impressions of sound quality of the
various QuadraCards.

Thanks,
Paul 


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From bercikj@musc.edu  Mon Nov 11 11:58:09 1996
Message-ID: <01BBCFC8.2175D5C0@Tull.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        "'Mark of the Unicorn Tech Support'" <techsupport@motu.com>
Subject: QS+ effects





Since you can only have one effects patch (4 individual effects per 
program) for a mix, is there a way to copy individual effects from one 
program to the patch of other programs. 

Like if my drum program is using effect 1 in its effect patch and my 
piano is using effect 1 in its effect patch.

When I make a mix I want to set the drum program as the effect patch to 
be used for the entire mix and I want to assign the drum to its effect 
1, copy the piano effect to patch 2 and assign the piano program to
effect patch, then copy other programs effects to effect patches 3 & 4.

How are people doing this or what are some workarounds if this can't be 
done.  The effects are quite intricate and can take a long time to copy 
on paper.

Thanks,
John Bercik


Thanks for your time,

John Bercik
Systems Manager
Medical University of SC
Work: 803-792-6729, Home: 803-762-4809

Home Address:
1965 Leadenwah Dr.
Wadmalaw, SC 29487

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From bercikj@musc.edu  Mon Nov 11 13:43:40 1996
Message-ID: <01BBCFD6.DF7A3620@Tull.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Source of midi files?





NE1 know a source of free quality midi files?

Thanks,
John Bercik

Thanks for your time,

John Bercik
Systems Manager
Medical University of SC
Work: 803-792-6729, Home: 803-762-4809

Home Address:
1965 Leadenwah Dr.
Wadmalaw, SC 29487

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From dtibor@pa.mother.com  Mon Nov 11 16:05:55 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: David <dtibor@pa.mother.com>
Subject: HELP!  Serial setup of QS6



 I have a new QS6 and a serial cable I purchased from Alesis.  I
installed the drivers, and hooked up the synth, and followed the (few) 
instructions on setting up the system (with a PC clone).  Can't get it to 
function.  

I have an AST 486-33 with 8 mb memory.  Zoom 14.4 external modem on com 1.
soundblaster (old one) installed.  hooked up QS6 with serial cable purchased
from Alesis.  Installed drivers from CD-ROM, and set the Alesis driver to
Com 2.  I run Soundbridge, and the check the midi connection option, and it
searches but CANNOT find the qs6.   Thanks much!

Any ideas?  Can someone give me more information on hooking this up?
A walk through, etc.

David.

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NE1 know a source of free quality midi files?

Thanks,
John Bercik

Thanks for your time,

John Bercik
Systems Manager
Medical University of SC
Work: 803-792-6729, Home: 803-762-4809

Home Address:
1965 Leadenwah Dr.
Wadmalaw, SC 29487

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Mon Nov 11 17:22:39 1996
Message-Id: <199611112222.RAA00924@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: HELP!  Serial setup of QS6





On 11 Nov 96 at 16:05, David wrote:

> I have an AST 486-33 with 8 mb memory.  Zoom 14.4 external modem on com 1.
> soundblaster (old one) installed.  hooked up QS6 with serial cable purchased
> from Alesis.  Installed drivers from CD-ROM, and set the Alesis driver to Com
> 2.  I run Soundbridge, and the check the midi connection option, and it
> searches but CANNOT find the qs6.   Thanks much!

David,

Download the new Alesis Serial Driver from the QS Page, and try again.
Be careful with the IRQ settings, avoid conflicts with other devices.
If you are still having problems, email me with all the details, and we'll
figure out something. 

Les

--
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New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From jakob.boije@mailbox.swipnet.se  Mon Nov 11 17:43:44 1996
Message-ID: <3287BA32.51A9@mailbox.swipnet.se>
From: Johan Boije <jakob.boije@mailbox.swipnet.se>
Reply-To: jakob.boije@mailbox.swipnet.se
Organization: Boije Design AB


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: FlashCards and QuadraCards




Ok Paul,
Here are a couple of "flashcard" mails & a warning (if you have a QS7 or
QS8) that I have saved. I bought an 8 meg AMD AMC008DFLKA myself. It
seems to work fine on my QS6. 

Good Luck
Johan Boije
Stockholm, Sweden


(This one comes from the best www page ever:
<http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/>)

> Flash RAM Card Warning !
> To all QS7 and QS8 owners: There have been reports of some QS7 and QS8
owners having difficulty using SoundBridge with the approved AMD flash
cards.
Thanks to Jeff Pynonnen and Les Winters, we have been able to isolate
the
problem. It seems that AMD, the company who manufactures the flash cards
that we approve for use with our synths is actually making two types of
cards
with the same part #. Both are exactly alike, except one has a ceramic
case,
and one has a metal case. It has been discovered that the metal case
cards do
not function correctly with the QS7 and QS8...however, they do work
correctly 
on the QS6 and S9. The discrepancy is due to the double card slot
interacting
peculiarly with the metal case - the result is that the QS7 and QS8
think 
they're SRAM cards, and will not allow them to be burned...suffice it to
say 
that neither we nor the engineers at AMD can explain why at this time -
they're
exactly the same otherwise. AMD is still manufacturing the ceramic case
cards,
and will gladly send that model to anyone who specifies (same
price)...remember,
the part # for the two cards is the exact same (AmC008DFLKA for the 8
meg...
just change the 8 to a 4 for the 4 meg, etc). Remember, the ceramic ones
work
in all the synths, and the metal ones only work in the synths with one
card slot. 
Please feel free to email me with
any questions...
> 
> dB 
> Alesis Keyboards 


> On 22 Aug 96 at 16:32, Rob Martino wrote:
> 
> > Anyone have any word on what the cheapest price for 8MB flash
> > cards is and where?  With the impending release of Sound Bridge
> > 2.0 I'm anxious to try out some sampling! 
> 
> Rob,
> 
> For the best deal on Flash RAM Cards email to : midiworld@clever.net
> 
> Les
> --
> Les Winters
> New York



> <<Anyone have any word on what the cheapest price for 8MB flash
> cards is and where?>>
> Rob,
> They are a very specific type of flash card.  To the best of my knowledge, we 
> have the lowest price on them @ $369.
> They *must be 5 volts read/5 volts write (most are 5/12)
> They must be 150 nanoseconds or faster.
> They must read information packets in a very specific way.  The only ones we 
> recommend are by AMD (part # AmC008DFLKA) and Intel (part # unknown by me at 
> this time)
> Do let me know if you find it cheaper.
> dB

> On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Rob Martino wrote:
> 
> > Anyone have any word on what the cheapest price for 8MB flash
> > cards is and where?
> 
> I've been looking for the last month and I've talked to all the normal
> sources (Alesis included), but I wasn't really satisfied with prices.  I
> finally decided to go to AMD's homepage to see if I could buy from them.
> It turns out that they only OEM the cards, but I got the list of dealers
> that they supply.  There were only about 6, so I emailed 3-4 and asked for
> prices.  Unfortunately, I've since deleted all the higher prices and kept
> this message (from the dealer with the best price).  I've already got my
> 8MB Type D on order...
> 
> >You said you needed prices for a 4MB Type C, an 8MB Type C, a 4MB
> >Type D and an 8MB Type D.
> >
> >This is what I found out:
> >
> > 1)    C Series
> >       4 Meg   AMC004CFLKA (150ns)=    $159.85         2 week lead time
> >       10Meg   AMC010CFLKA (150ns)=    $270.00         in stock
> >
> > 2)    D Series
> >       4 Meg   AMC004DFLKA (150ns)=    $130.10         2 week lead time
> >       8 Meg   AMC008DFLKA (150ns)=    $208.66         2-4 week lead time
> >
> > The 8 Meg is not offered in the C series devices.
> >
> > This is RFQ5177001 from Inside Sales Representative Benet Sumner)
> >
> > If you have any questions, feel free to call our phone # listed below.
> > Benet Sumner is the sales person who gave me these numbers--
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Laura Olsen
> > Wyle Semiconductor Group
> > Direct Sales/Marketing Division
> > homepage: http://www.wyle.com
> > e-mail: te-wyle@hlc.com
> > Sales phone line (800)-414-4144 and (801)226-0991
> > Marketing phone line (800)943-7446
> > Fax Numbers:  801-226-0210 and 801-226-0408
> 
> ----
> If you hung up on me, I'd call you back.

> Mr. Plump wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >You said you needed prices for a 4MB Type C, an 8MB Type C, a 4MB
> > >Type D and an 8MB Type D.
> > >
> > >This is what I found out:
> > >
> > > 1)    C Series
> > >       4 Meg   AMC004CFLKA (150ns)=    $159.85         2 week lead time
> > >       10Meg   AMC010CFLKA (150ns)=    $270.00         in stock
> > >
> > > 2)    D Series
> > >       4 Meg   AMC004DFLKA (150ns)=    $130.10         2 week lead time
> > >       8 Meg   AMC008DFLKA (150ns)=    $208.66         2-4 week lead time
> > >
> > > The 8 Meg is not offered in the C series devices.
> 
> 
> WOW!  That seems pretty cheap!  The local dealer is selling the 8 MB for
> $329.
> 
> What's the difference between Type C & D?

> Well, I ordered a AMD 8M flash card for my QS8 keyboard.
>  The AMD part number was AMC008DFLKA. The "normal"
>  distributor price is $184.00.
>  I got it for $155 + shipping + 6%sales = $173.30
>  
>  To use my same sales source, contact:
>  Becky at:
>  Marshall Industries
>  31067 Schoolcraft Rd.
>  Livonia, Michigan 48150
>  Tel: (313)-525-5850
>  Fax: (313)-525-5855
>  You can also call them at 1-800-522-0084.
>  If they tell you a price of $184.00, tell them that
>  Jeff Pynnonen bought it for $155.00 from Becky
>  at the Livonia Michigan office.
>  
>  Marshall Industries is nationwide U.S. distributor of
>  electronic parts.
>  
>  To find out more about AMD Flash Memory PC Cards, check out this page:
>  <http://www.amd.com/html/products/nvd/overview/cards.html>
>  
>  Where can you find a AMD distributor? Heres the list.
>  <http://www.amd.com/html/support/sales.html>
>  Using the distributor list you might be able to get a better price.
>  
>  BTW: Marshall Industries have 700+ of the AMD 8MB Flashcards in stock!
>  
>  You might want to wait to see if Marshall Industries comes thru for me.
>  I should get the card by the end of next week.I'll post my results
>  with the card.


> I was going to ask this as a question but then I found an answer so I will
> post it.
> 
> Besides the different memory configurations, the difference between series
> C and series D RAM cards is that the C series has a record/erase life cycle
> of 100,000 times, and the D series 1,000,000 times.
> 
> I, too, went to the AMD web site and found several distributors. The best
> price I found was from Anthem, but you must buy $10,000.00 worth. The next
> best was Marshall.
> 
> 
> Dennis Phillips

> Well, I ordered a AMD 8M flash card for my QS8 keyboard.
> The AMD part number was AMC008DFLKA. The "normal" 
> distributor price is $184.00.
> I got it for $155+shipping+6%sales = $173.30
> 
> To use my same sales source, contact:
> Becky at:
> Marshall Industries
> 31067 Schoolcraft Rd.
> Livonia, Michigan 48150
> Tel: (313)-525-5850
> Fax: (313)-525-5855
> You can also call them at 1-800-522-0084.
> If they tell you a price of $184.00, tell them that
> Jeff Pynnonen bought it for $155.00 from Becky
> at the Livonia Michigan office.
> 
> Marshall Industries is nationwide U.S. distributor of 
> electronic parts. 
> 
> To find out more about AMD Flash Memory PC Cards, check out this page:
> <http://www.amd.com/html/products/nvd/overview/cards.html>
> 
> Where can you find a AMD distributor? Heres the list.
> <http://www.amd.com/html/support/sales.html>
> Using the distributor list you might be able to get a better price.
> 
> BTW: Marshall Industries have 700+ in stock!
> 
> You might want to wait to see if Marshall Industries comes thru for me.
> I should get the card soon.I'll post my results with the card.
> 
> -- 
> -Thanks!
> Jeff Pynnonen
> Jeff, Fran, and Blake's home page <http://oeonline.com/~pynnonen>.


> I ordered a AMD 8M flash card for my QS8 keyboard from Marshall
> Industries on Friday August 30th, but it hasn't arrived yet. I
> called today and they said it was shipped yesterday, so I should
> have it by Thursday or Friday.
>  The AMD part number was AMC008DFLKA. The "normal"
>  distributor price is $184.00.
>  I got it for $155 + shipping + 6%sales = $173.30,
> 
> When I called today, Becky told me that someone gave me their
> "cost" of $155 instead of their normal "price" of $184 for 1 piece,
> 5-10 pieces are $164.00. They are honoring the price of $155 for me,
> but alas, not for others. So the price is $184 + tax + shipping.
> Sorry, guys! She did say someone else called, indicating that I posted
> it on the internet (which I had). 
>  
>  To use my same sales source, contact:
>  Becky at:
>  Marshall Industries
>  31067 Schoolcraft Rd.
>  Livonia, Michigan 48150
>  Tel: (313)-525-5850
>  Fax: (313)-525-5855
>  You can also call them at 1-800-522-0084.
> 
>  
>  Marshall Industries is nationwide U.S. distributor of
>  electronic parts.
>  
>  To find out more about AMD Flash Memory PC Cards, check out this page:
>  <http://www.amd.com/html/products/nvd/overview/cards.html>
>  
>  Where can you find a AMD distributor? Heres the list.
>  <http://www.amd.com/html/support/sales.html>
>  Using the distributor list you might be able to get a better price.
>  
>  BTW: Marshall Industries have 700+ of the AMD 8MB Flashcards in stock!
>  
>  You might want to wait to see if Marshall Industries comes thru for me.
>  I should get the card by the end of next week.I'll post my results
>  with the card.
> --
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Mon Nov 11 23:27:34 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: QuadraCards/Q-cards



>Also, I'd be interested in hearing impressions of sound quality of the
>various QuadraCards.

I think the sound quality is stellar on all the cards I've heard.  Dave
Bryce was demo-ing (that isn't really a word, is it?) the new Sanctuary one
at the clinic I saw, and that thing was great.  Churches will love it.  Same
for the quality of the pop and orchestral ones.  I personally think the
World one is too limited in scope as far as choice of instruments.
Rap/Techno has some swell stuff on it, but most of its 4 megs are used for
loops instead of instruments.  There ARE some great drums and basses on it,
though.

The moral according to me?  Make sure you find a music store that'll let you
try it out before you buy it.  When you are doling out that big a chunk of
change, you deserve to.  Don't let them give you that stuff about not
opening the packages!!!  (Can you tell I had a bad experience that left me a
little bitter?)

By the way, all the new ones are called Q-cards now that the Q6-8 are out.
The Quadracards use some of the onboard sample ROM that they dropped for the
new synths.

Yours,
Derek

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From pbadcock@cochlear.com.au  Mon Nov 11 23:41:13 1996
From: pbadcock@cochlear.com.au
Message-Id: <9610128478.AA847842056@cplmail.ozemail.com.au>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Return-Receipt-To: pbadcock@cochlear.com.au
Subject: Hammond Organ sound





Greetings,
          I own an S4+ and I was wondering if anyone could tell me 
whether any of the organ  samples (in it's ROM)come from or 
approximate a Hammond Organ?  When I had a look at the names of the 
raw samples in the S4+ manual none of them really alluded to the name 
'Hammond'

regards
Peter

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From lamphear@zipnet.net  Tue Nov 12 22:17:59 1996
X-Sender: lamphear@pop3.zipnet.net
Message-Id: <v01540b01aeaeee069c85@[206.15.161.216]>


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: lamphear@ziplink.net (Rich Lamphear)
Subject: Re: QuadraCards/Q-cards



>I think the sound quality is stellar on all the cards I've heard.  Dave
>Bryce was demo-ing (that isn't really a word, is it?) the new Sanctuary one
>at the clinic I saw, and that thing was great.  Churches will love it.  Same
>for the quality of the pop and orchestral ones.  I personally think the

Does the pop card have a lot of new drum samples?  The drums are my only
disappointment on the QS6 (not that they're BAD, mind you..).  I'd love to
see a card with the full set of DM5 drum samples.

Rich


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From debstar@ix.netcom.com  Wed Nov 13 01:39:16 1996
Message-ID: <328919C8.F48@ix.netcom.com>
From: debstar <debstar@ix.netcom.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I)

To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Couple of things....




To anyone who can answer:

Can the QS+piano can record directly to ADAT like the QS8 is supposed to do.

Secondly, can anyone tell me why I can't get to bank 4 (the general midi bank)
when I'm in mix 99 on the QS+piano?

Thanks a bunch!
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Thu Nov 14 09:15:38 1996
Message-ID: <01BBD20C.608B4100@pcbercik.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: General Midi





When I enable General Midi, I can see 16 midi channels that have 16 =
different sounds.  When I play general midi files they seem to have more =
sounds.  Are they being pulled from the entire bank or just the 16 in =
this Mix?

How can I tell when a midi file is playing what sound is being used?

Thanks,
John Bercik

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From sladep@which.co.uk  Thu Nov 14 09:44:44 1996
From: sladep@which.co.uk
Message-Id: <96111414090758@which.co.uk>
To: bercikj@musc.edu, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: General Midi
X-Vms-To: SMTP%"bercikj@musc.edu"
X-Vms-Cc: SMTP%"quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com",SLADEP





>When I enable General Midi, I can see 16 midi channels that have 16 =
>different sounds.  When I play general midi files they seem to have more =
>sounds.  Are they being pulled from the entire bank or just the 16 in =
>this Mix?

These midi files probably stick programme change messages midway through the
piece  so that although there are never more than 16 different instruments
playing at once, there are more than sixteen different instruments in the whole
piece.

For example, if you have an organ playing only in the verses, and a piano only
in the chorus, you could use the same midi channel and send a programme change
message in between each section.

peter slade
london
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From timdavis@megadisq.com  Thu Nov 14 11:49:06 1996
Message-Id: <199611141649.KAA27873@ultra.qni.com>
From: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
To: "Quadrasynth List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Why create a mix








Why create a custom mix on the QS is the computer is sending all program
changes and most parameters to the QS?

Tim Davis
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From elson@westworld.com  Thu Nov 14 15:43:26 1996
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
To: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
cc: Quadrasynth List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Why create a mix
In-Reply-To: <199611141649.KAA27873@ultra.qni.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961114123720.8048A-100000@shell2.westworld.com>





On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Timothy G. Davis wrote:

> Why create a custom mix on the QS is the computer is sending all program
> changes and most parameters to the QS?

Mixes can be used, for example, to create split sounds and/or real huge
layered things. I know what you're talking about; The only Mix I really
use is the "Multitimbral" mix 00 -- However, I had to modify it to disable
channels 1-8 as my Ensoniq EPS is using that particular section of MIDI
real estate, so I'm using channels 9-16 for my QS6 (Despite the 16-part
multitimbrality and the 64-voice polyphony, I hardly ever use more than 4
or 5 parts on my QS6; you have to realize that most of all the program
sounds are made up of at least 2 layers (sounds), which gobble up
polyphony). Will a 128-voice polyphonic synth by Alesis arrive soon?
If there was no way to make your own mixes, I'd have problems with that.

Elson
 
				-30-
=========================================================================
Elson Trinidad, Los Angeles, CA * elson@westworld.com
http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Thu Nov 14 16:43:48 1996
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Sphere_Communica%l=PUBSERVER-961114214205Z-609@pubserver.spherecom.com>
From: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@spherecom.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Sample editors
X-Mailer:  Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5





Hi,
	Whilst the QS series synths are not samplers, it is possible to
download new samples to a PCMCIA card using SoundBridge.  Soundbridge
uses the SampleCell format and converts into QS "composite sample"
format

What is a good editor for SampleCell type samples?  I've looked at
Steinberg's Wavelab but that doesn't seem to do anything useful.

Thanks
Steve
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From UNDERWOOD@INTEL7.intel.com  Thu Nov 14 20:27:27 1996
From: CHUCK UNDERWOOD PAGER 4788 X3-8221 INTEL FAB 7 <UNDERWOOD@INTEL7.intel.com>
Message-Id: <9611150126.utk921@INTEL7.intel.com>
X-To: HERMES::"quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com"
Subject: Help for new user?
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com





I have two questions..
1.  I am a fairly new keyboard user and use my QS+ for performing only.
    The Manual is just a 'tad' bit over my head.  Can anyone suggest
    a "dummys' or 'idiots' guide to learning how midi and all the
    keyboard functions work?
2.  As I said I use my keyboard for performing and only use a handful
    of the >600 presets.  I am looking for a more realistic saxaphone
    patch, maybe with some effect to give it that raspy, nasty, sax
    sound.  Any ideas on how I could find a new sound or modify some
    of my presets?  Maybe using the aftertouch?

			Thanks in advance.... Chuck 
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL  Fri Nov 15 05:00:30 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Call for S4/S4+ information for QE 2.0
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.COM
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL
Message-id: <3EED400B34@rc96.rc.rug.nl>
Organization: Rekencentrum RUG







Hi all,

I would like to call for you assistance in improvizing QE 2.0. I have made
considerable progress in making it support all QuadraSynth models out
today, but I need some information on the module types.
For S4 and S4+ I need the ORIGINAL patch names, preset and user banks.
For the S4+ I also need the contents of the S4Plus sample group (the last
group available). I know it's partly similar to the QSPlus sample group,
but not completely.
I would highly appreciate it if someone can hand me over this information.

Announcement on the updated QE 2.0 to be expected soon..


Regards,

Paul
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
|   Paul Swennenhuis                          |
*   Helpdesk RC RUG Groningen                 *
|   e-mail  : P.A.M.Swennenhuis@RC.RUG.NL     |
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL  Fri Nov 15 06:43:25 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Rectification: Call for S4/S4+ information for QE 2.0
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.COM
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL
Message-id: <408E4C5FDB@rc96.rc.rug.nl>
Organization: Rekencentrum RUG







# Hi all,
#
# I would like to call for you assistance in improvizing QE 2.0. I have made
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^

Sorry, typo. This should of course be: improving. I think it gives a bad
impression when I say improvizing :-)

Paul
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|   Paul Swennenhuis                          |
*   Helpdesk RC RUG Groningen                 *
|   e-mail  : P.A.M.Swennenhuis@RC.RUG.NL     |
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Fri Nov 15 15:58:37 1996
Message-ID: <328D0373.123A@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.COM
Subject: Need help with QS+ and Sound Bridge




I'm using Sound Bridge 2.0, which is now supposed to be able to save a
User Bank on the FLASH RAM card.  I did a sysex dump via Cakewalk and
saved it.  I then loaded it into my SB project, and compiled the card. 
Then I went into the Crd: bank on my QS+, but it's all garbage.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/1844/index.html
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From elson@westworld.com  Fri Nov 15 19:34:47 1996
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
To: Quadrasynth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Looking for QS6 PCMCIA Cards in LA, CA area
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961115163147.25566A-100000@shell2.westworld.com>





Does anyone in the Southern California area know where I can find
compatible PCMCIA RAM cards for my QS6? Frys doesn't seem to have it (they
point me to the PCMCIA network/peripheral cards section!) 

10-Q,
Elson

				-30-
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Elson Trinidad, Los Angeles, CA * elson@westworld.com
http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Fri Nov 15 20:32:25 1996
Message-Id: <199611160132.UAA22987@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Looking for QS6 PCMCIA Cards in LA, CA area





On 15 Nov 96 at 19:34, Elson Trinidad wrote:

> Does anyone in the Southern California area know where I can find
> compatible PCMCIA RAM cards for my QS6? Frys doesn't seem to have it (they
> point me to the PCMCIA network/peripheral cards section!) 

Elson,

Call this number : (800)522-0084 (Marshall Industries) 

They sell QS-compatible cards, 8MB=$184
                                                   4MB=$111

Ask for them by name : 8MB Flash RAM : AMC008DFLKA  or
                                       4MB Flash Card :   AMC004DLFKA

If you plan to use the card(s) with a QS7 or QS8, make sure you specify
that you want CERAMIC and not metalic case cards. Same part #, but
big difference. 

Don't bother looking for these cards in computer or music stores, they may
sell you something you can't use.

Les
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Nov 16 05:49:19 1996
Message-ID: <328D9BF6.519F@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: Need help with QS+ and Sound Bridge
References: <328D0373.123A@ix.netcom.com>




Mitch,
I had similar problems trying to use Unisyn .syx files.  Paul's QE2
couldn't do the job either.  When i used Freeloader, on Les Winters
Page, all was fine.  neat little util.  Give it a try.
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karma Comes Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
_________________________visit my page_______________________________
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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Sat Nov 16 12:05:54 1996
Message-ID: <328E1E59.37C2@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Music samples.




I don't mean to sound like spam, but I have some .mp3 clips of some of
my original stuff posted on my Web page (URL below).

I'd appreciate any feedback (be kind! :).

The clips are short, but I recently got 10 more megabytes, so I'll
probably at least double the length of the clips next week sometime.

Thanks
-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/1844/index.html
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Nov 16 16:25:38 1996
Message-ID: <328E32C6.4253@mail.magg.net>
From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: SB 1.2/QS+




I just went into the QS site and was struck by the fact that in the
'whats new category' , version 1.20 of soundbridge was right on top..
I downloaded it, and discovered that it is a totally different version
than the 'other' 1.20, or at least updated. The one I had the image of
the computer and a bridge and water. ect. 
The new one is totally different.
Im in the midst of uploading the sysex bank to the QS+ and praying that
it will work now.
Adrian.
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From senip@j51.com  Sat Nov 16 23:05:20 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199611170402.XAA20877@j51.com>
Subject: QS7/8 Piano sound?
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b]





	I was just playing with a QS7 (still waiting on the QS8 to come 
in :( ) and was wondering which preset uses the huge piano sample that is 
supposed to be in there? I couldn't find any piano sound that I would say 
is worth 8Meg or whatever the size is, but maybe they could be tweaked 
into something more usable. I assumed that the 'stereo piano' was the big 
patch, but it sounded kinda plastic to me. Compared to the much smaller 
PC88 piano sample, it wasn't very convincing. I hope I'm wrong, but I 
don't think it matters much, since I'll probably end up getting the QS8 
anyway, it's too good of a deal. And I LOVE all the analog synth sounds 
in it! But I would like to know if the piano can be improved any. Thanks 
for any info.
	

					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From jcropper@ix.netcom.com  Sat Nov 16 23:16:26 1996
Message-Id: <199611170415.UAA27137@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
From: "Jason Cropper" <jcropper@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Quadrasynth Mailing List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Where can I get an 8mb card for my QS+ Piano








Where can I get an 8mb card for my QS+ Piano?  Will the keyboard address
the full 8 mb?  Should the card be made of certain material?

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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Mon Nov 18 09:06:59 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+zc4YmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: QS/PC Serial Cable





Hi Everyone-

Will a large computer component store have an adapter/cable or combination of 
either to go from my QS6 serial port to the 25 pin COM port on my PC.  Or do 
you have to buy this cable directly from ALESIS? Their price is high for one 
cable!  Has anyone tried to configue there own cable or is their pin 
arrangement unique?  Please respond quickly if you can because I need to buy 
or order today.

Thanks-  Andy
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From HawkinM@solcorp.com  Mon Nov 18 10:47:48 1996
From: Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@solcorp.com>
To: "'Quadralist'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: FW: QS/PC Serial Cable
Encoding: 51 TEXT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0
Message-Id: <96Nov18.095118est.21761@gateway.solcorp.com>





 ----------
From:  Michael Hawkin
Sent:  Monday, November 18, 1996 10:29 AM
To:  midiworld
Subject:  RE: QS/PC Serial Cable

Andy,

I believe that you have two choices where serial cables are concerned.

1. Buy it from Alesis  -  I think they are about $15 US

2. Get it made - probably cost about $12 US and you need to have the pin   
configuration.  If you mail me your fax number I will fax you a copy.

No-one else's cables will work because each manufacturer has their own   
pin configuration

Michael.
Hawkinm@solcorp.com
 ----------
From:  midiworld
Sent:  Monday, November 18, 1996 9:06 AM
To:  quadrasynth-list
Subject:  QS/PC Serial Cable

Hi Everyone-

Will a large computer component store have an adapter/cable or   
combination of
either to go from my QS6 serial port to the 25 pin COM port on my PC.  Or   
do
you have to buy this cable directly from ALESIS? Their price is high for   
one
cable!  Has anyone tried to configue there own cable or is their pin
arrangement unique?  Please respond quickly if you can because I need to   
buy
or order today.

Thanks-  Andy
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Mon Nov 18 11:15:36 1996
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Sphere_Communica%l=PUBSERVER-961118161424Z-678@pubserver.spherecom.com>
From: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@spherecom.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
X-Mailer:  Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5





>	I was just playing with a QS7 (still waiting on the QS8 to come 
>in :( ) and was wondering which preset uses the huge piano sample that is 
>supposed to be in there? I couldn't find any piano sound that I would say 
>is worth 8Meg or whatever the size is, but maybe they could be tweaked 
>into something more usable. I assumed that the 'stereo piano' was the big 
>patch, but it sounded kinda plastic to me. Compared to the much smaller 
>PC88 piano sample, it wasn't very convincing. I hope I'm wrong, but I 
>don't think it matters much, since I'll probably end up getting the QS8 
>anyway, it's too good of a deal. And I LOVE all the analog synth sounds 
>in it! But I would like to know if the piano can be improved any. Thanks 
>for any info.

Is the 8 Meg piano sample actually in the QS7/8?  If so then why is it
available as a QS card?  
The QS8 advertising info seems to indicate it does contain the "highly
acclaimed, 8 Meg, phase accurate stereo piano" but I have my doubts.
Maybe it has a sub-set of it.  
The sound is good if you want a bright sound with lots of hammer but the
dynamics are all wrong, the hammer sound doesn't really diminish when
played softly.  I'm waiting to hear the 8 Meg piano card, hoping it will
have pianos with more accurate dynamics.

================================================================
Steve Moorby
e-mail :	smoorby@spherecom.com


>	
>
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From abrisben@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Nov 18 14:34:30 1996
message-id: <aoccacce@alesis1.usa.com>
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
to: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com, ABlanchard@SWRI.EDU
Subject: Re: QS/PC Serial Cable






You need a special cable (most computer stores have it) to connect from the QS_ 
DIN8 to the PC DB9 (or DB25).  If you want to make your own, here's the pinout:

QS6 = 8pin Mini-DIN

QS6 - DB9(PC)
1   -   8
2   -   7
3   -   2
4   -   5
5   -   3

QS6 - DB25(PC)
1   -   5
2   -   4
3   -   3
4   -   7
5   -   2

The cables are available through our Parts Department for $14.99. You may place 
orders by calling 800-525-3747.

We completed the QS6 CDROM two days before the release version of Windows 95.  
Beta versions of Win 95 were having problems with the driver.  Since then, we 
have found the driver to work with the RELEASE versions of Win 95.  Here are the
setup instructions in Win 95:

Open Control Panel
Select "Add New Hardware"
Select "NO" to NOT have windows auto-detect hardware. 
Select "Sound, Video, Game contollers" as hardware type. 
When prompted for device, select "Have Disk"
Navigate to the OEM setup in the ASDWIN directory of the CDROM 
Follow the instructions from there.
You're done.

Make sure after setting up the driver that your serial interface is set 
accordingly to the QS6/7/8 manual.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments. 

Adam Brisben
Technical Support
Alesis Corporation 

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: QS/PC Serial Cable
Author:  mail@ih {+ABlanchard@swri.edu} at MHS
Date:    11/18/96 9:06 AM


Hi Everyone-

Will a large computer component store have an adapter/cable or combination of 
either to go from my QS6 serial port to the 25 pin COM port on my PC.  Or do 
you have to buy this cable directly from ALESIS? Their price is high for one 
cable!  Has anyone tried to configue there own cable or is their pin 
arrangement unique?  Please respond quickly if you can because I need to buy 
or order today.

Thanks-  Andy
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Mon Nov 18 14:43:13 1996
Message-ID: <01BBD55E.C98CA360@bercikjlaptop.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: General MIDI





When GM files are playing, I hear other sounds the the 16 in MIX 00 bank =
4.  Where are they coming from?  Other locations in bank 4?  How can I =
track them down?

Thanks,
John Bercik

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From janer@isy.liu.se  Mon Nov 18 14:58:02 1996
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961118195451.006a4750@130.236.23.68>
X-Sender: janer@130.236.23.68



To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: Jan Eriksson <janer@isy.liu.se>
Subject: Re: FW: QS/PC Serial Cable



At 10:47 1996-11-18 -0500, Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@solcorp.com> wrote:
> ----------
>From:  Michael Hawkin
>Sent:  Monday, November 18, 1996 10:29 AM
>To:  midiworld
>Subject:  RE: QS/PC Serial Cable
>
>Andy,
>
>I believe that you have two choices where serial cables are concerned.
>
>1. Buy it from Alesis  -  I think they are about $15 US
>
>2. Get it made - probably cost about $12 US and you need to have the pin   
>configuration.  If you mail me your fax number I will fax you a copy.
>
>No-one else's cables will work because each manufacturer has their own   
>pin configuration

I am using a Roland cable. No problems with it (yet). Yamaha cables
should work too (I've heard).

Jan Eriksson

janer@isy.liu.se

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From alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu  Mon Nov 18 15:42:22 1996
From: Adam Levin <alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
In-Reply-To: <c=US%a=_%p=Sphere_Communica%l=PUBSERVER-961118161424Z-678@pubserver.spherecom.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.94.961118153935.19950D-100000@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>





On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Stephen Moorby wrote:
> >	I was just playing with a QS7 (still waiting on the QS8 to come 
> >in :( ) and was wondering which preset uses the huge piano sample that is 
> >supposed to be in there? I couldn't find any piano sound that I would say 
> >is worth 8Meg...
<smip>
> >in it! But I would like to know if the piano can be improved any. Thanks 
> >for any info.
> 
> Maybe it has a sub-set of it.  
> The sound is good if you want a bright sound with lots of hammer but the
> dynamics are all wrong, the hammer sound doesn't really diminish when
> played softly.  I'm waiting to hear the 8 Meg piano card, hoping it will
> have pianos with more accurate dynamics.

According to Alesis, the 8meg phase accurate stereo grand piano is in the
QS7/8, except they snipped it down to around 7 megs or so.  The bright
piano sounds are excellent, IMHO.  The PureStereo patch (user 00) is quite
good at soft, but the velo curve is a little clumsy and sometimes you
might get a louder-than-expected note if you aren't careful.  For a really
nice somber piano, I've fallen for AntiqueGrand (user 02 I believe) which
is rather soft and very nice for classical pieces.

-Adam


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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Mon Nov 18 16:14:36 1996
Message-ID: <3290FB94.5C71@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Pro-Tec case for QS+




I was wondering if anyone uses a Pro-Tec foam case for their QS+.

If so, I need some info on where to get one for the best price.

Thanks!!!
-- 
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Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/1844/index.html
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Mon Nov 18 16:44:56 1996
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Sphere_Communica%l=PUBSERVER-961118214342Z-700@pubserver.spherecom.com>
From: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@spherecom.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
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>>
>>Is the 8 Meg piano sample actually in the QS7/8?  If so then why is it
>>available as a QS card?  
>
>>The QS8 advertising info seems to indicate it does contain the "highly
>>acclaimed, 8 Meg, phase accurate stereo piano" but I have my doubts.
>>Maybe it has a sub-set of it.  
>
>I was under the impression the card is the same sample set. It will be
>interesting to see if it's different.

Can anyone clarify whether this is the case?  It seems strange to
duplicate the samples in an external card when the internal samples
could be used for new programs.  I would understand if the samples were
duplicated between two quadra cards but not when the samples are
available internally. 
I'm confused!
>
>Bruce S.
>
>
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From Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU  Mon Nov 18 16:45:16 1996
From: Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU
Message-Id: <199611182145.OAA19748@stripe.Colorado.EDU>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7: sysex doc and CW Instrument Definitions
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Recently purchased a QS7 and use cakewalk 5.0 with it.  

Obviously I found this list, and btw, it's great!  Have also found Les
Winters' QS site and the cakewalk instrument definitions for the QS7
there.  I've also found the sysex documentation for QS and QS6 there.

Questions are:

  Does anyone have or know of a source for the note names for the drum
sets, other than GM sets, for the QS7?  What I mean are the instrument
names that correspond to specific pitches.  This info was not included in
the instrument definitions that I found.

  Same question goes for sysex documentation.  There is documentation for
QS6 and QS at Les Winters' site and am wondering if either of those would
be usable for the 7.

Thanks to all for listening. 

---
Gary Reedy				Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU
Student Affairs Research Services	303-492-2514
University of Colorado at Boulder	FAX 492-0703
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Mon Nov 18 17:39:29 1996
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Sphere_Communica%l=PUBSERVER-961118223815Z-715@pubserver.spherecom.com>
From: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@spherecom.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
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>> Is the 8 Meg piano sample actually in the QS7/8?  If so then why is it
>> available as a QS card?  
>> The QS8 advertising info seems to indicate it does contain the "highly
>> acclaimed, 8 Meg, phase accurate stereo piano" but I have my doubts.
>> Maybe it has a sub-set of it.  
>> The sound is good if you want a bright sound with lots of hammer but the
>> dynamics are all wrong, the hammer sound doesn't really diminish when
>> played softly.  I'm waiting to hear the 8 Meg piano card, hoping it will
>> have pianos with more accurate dynamics.
>> 
>Unfortunately the 8mb sample is the same in the QS7/8 and the piano card.
>They originally made the card back before they started putting the sample
>onboard. They continue to make the card for folks who have the S4 module or
>the QS6, neither of which have the sample on board. I  bought it to use
>with my S4 module but have been very disapointed in it. The piano in my
>PC88 is much better, in my opinion.

Thanks for this info, this makes things make some sort of sense.

I agree, the pianos are disappointing for 8 Meg of memory.  I also have
a Yamaha Clavinova CLP-760 and its piano is much more realistic whilst
only having 4 Meg of memory in total.  The QS8 is better in some ways.
The clarity and low noise is very good in comparison with the CLP but
the dynamics are wrong enough to stop them from being useful pianos
IMHO.

I think my next avenue of exploration is to create my own piano PCMCIA
card from a Sample Cell format CD-ROM and Sound Bridge, unless the sound
authors get there first for the benefit of all QS owners.

Despite the disappointing pianos, I remain convinced that the QS8 is
capable of much better.

==================================================================
Steve Moorby
e-mail :	smoorby@spherecom.com
>
>
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From y94emala@eduserv.isy.liu.se  Mon Nov 18 18:03:57 1996
Message-Id: <199611182303.AAA02200@eduserv.isy.liu.se>
Comments: Authenticated sender is <y94emala@eduserv.isy.liu.se>
From: "Emanuel Larsson" <y94emala@isy.liu.se>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: KN800, poly1




Hello!

I know this is a mailinglist for Alesis synth-owners or other 
interested. This list is great!!!

I got a QS-S5 (Quadrasynth, maybe should have got that 
upgrade?) and a Technics KN800 a completely different thing.

However I got a little problem with the later one.
Do you have a KN800 or experience of one, please mail me.

My problem in very few words are: When I pushed poly1
there are no sound at all when I playing on the keyboard.
Strange!?

Thankful for help!


/ Emanuel
y94emala@isy.liu.se
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From senip@j51.com  Mon Nov 18 21:06:21 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199611190203.VAA00233@j51.com>
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
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	My fears seem to be true, and that IS the 8 Meg (well 7) piano 
sample used in the QS7/8. It looks like I may want to get a Micropiano, 
or the Yamaha (P-50m?) module for my piano sounds. No matter, it's not 
THAT bad, and should get me by for a little while for me to save the 
extra $300-400 for the module. Everything else that it offers makes it 
worth it anyway. I do have a few more questions though. 

	What's the going rate for the 8M flash-card for the QS's? Is 
Alesis the only supplier of these cards? Also, I'm sorry if this is a bit 
off-topic, but what's a good STURDY stand that's good for a QS8? I'm 
going to get the keyboard, stand, case, and bench all at the same time, 
so I'd like some opinions as to what I should get. The Ultimate A-frames 
seem nice, but they're kindof overkill for what I need. I have a 
Quick-Lok type 'X' stand, but it's too flimsy for my unweighted synth, 
much less a weighted one. I was looking at either the KDS stand which has 
more of a 'table' like surface to it, or maybe one of the Ultimate molded 
plastic ones. Any advice would be a help. Thanks. If this is too 
off-topic, I'm sorry, and I'd appreciate a private reply as to keep the 
noise down. Thanks.



					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com

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From donovan@kcstar.com  Mon Nov 18 23:15:01 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?



Every Alesis synth but the original Quadrasynths (the ones pre-Plus) and the
QS6 have the piano.  The card was originally intended to go with the old
Quadrasynths (it was/is actually a Quadracard), but it's also for QS6 owners.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this one, somebody.

I like the piano, myself.

Derek

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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL  Tue Nov 19 06:17:38 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Re: General MIDI
To: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.EDU>, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.COM
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL
Message-id: <467B0054E@rc96.rc.rug.nl>
Organization: Rekencentrum RUG







# Datum verzending: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:43:13 -0500 (EST)
# Van:              John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
# Aan:              "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
# Onderwerp:        General MIDI

# When GM files are playing, I hear other sounds the the 16 in MIX 00 bank 4.  Where are they coming from?  Other locations in bank 4?  How can I track them down?
#
# Thanks,
# John Bercik

Dear John,

When playing GM files, it is assumed that all 127 GM instruments are
available. In a mix only 16 programs can be placed, so the other ones are
selected from the GM bank (preset # ?) from your Quadra.
(It would BTW be more correct to say that there are 16 CHANNELS in a mix,
each of them capable of selecting any GM program). This selecting is done by
MIDI program changes. Using the "event view" of your sequencer (or whatever
it's name is) you can detect what program numbers are selected (and also
on what channel). These numbers correspond to the entries in the GM bank.

I hope this helps.

Paul
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL  Tue Nov 19 09:11:17 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Re: QS7: sysex doc and CW Instrument Definitions
To: Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.COM
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL
Message-id: <44CD5745B@rc96.rc.rug.nl>
Organization: Rekencentrum RUG







#   Same question goes for sysex documentation.  There is documentation for
# QS6 and QS at Les Winters' site and am wondering if either of those would
# be usable for the 7.
#
# Thanks to all for listening.

Hi Gary,

This one I can answer: yes, the sysex specs are the same for the QS6 and
QS7. I used one and the same file for my QE editor and until now,
everything appears to work the same way.

Paul
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL  Tue Nov 19 09:10:49 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Thanks for S4+ info
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.COM
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL
Message-id: <184DB71CE@rc96.rc.rug.nl>
Organization: Rekencentrum RUG







Hi all,

Thanks to Marc Currie, Michael Jonathan Kearns and David Knowles I now
have all the S4+ information I need.
So: no need for exhausting your fingermuscles anymore.
Thank you.

Paul

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From kinamus@ibm.net  Tue Nov 19 09:24:17 1996
From: kinamus@ibm.net
Message-ID: <32915BBD.223D@ibm.net>
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: sound bridge




I am using sound bridge under win 95.  My midi set up is a MTP-AV and
Roland RAP-10 sound card.  I could only open the sound bridge when the
RAP-10 midi is being disable.  Can any help me to solve the problem? 

Wallace

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From RogersJ@tpd.eds.com  Tue Nov 19 09:51:22 1996
From: Rogers_Jared <RogersJ@tpd.eds.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Speaking of Cakewalk...
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Speaking of Cakewalk... I've been a MIDI cakewalk user on a PC platform for a 
long time. I have a friend who uses a Macintosh to do digital recording and 
does some absolutely amazing recording and editing right on his screen. I 
recently found out that Cakewalk released a "Pro Audio" version which lets 
you do multichannel digital audio. I downloaded the demo and tried it.

Folks, I wouldn't recommend this program at all. Once I got it to record, the 
audio quality was horrible, tinny, and noisy. Also, Cakewalk caused my 
computer to lock up six times while trying to perform a simple multitrack 
recording. When it did work, it would overprocess the signal, etc... This is 
nothing like my friend's Macintosh-based digital-audio recording setup.

Jared 
Rogers
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From alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu  Tue Nov 19 10:20:54 1996
From: Adam Levin <alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
In-Reply-To: <199611190312.VAA07892@kcsg1.kcstar.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.94.961119101942.20923B-100000@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>





On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Derek Donovan wrote:
> Every Alesis synth but the original Quadrasynths (the ones pre-Plus) and the
> QS6 have the piano.  The card was originally intended to go with the old
> Quadrasynths (it was/is actually a Quadracard), but it's also for QS6 owners.
> Correct me if I'm wrong on this one, somebody.

That's correct.

> I like the piano, myself.

I agree -- I like it better than the PC88 and the Roland A90EX (and the
action is better on the QS8, IMHO).  Ahh well, that's what makes the world
go 'round.

Now if I could just get the hang of this darned Kurz K2000 :).


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From alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu  Tue Nov 19 11:00:08 1996
From: Adam Levin <alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Editors for QS8
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.94.961119105704.20951B-100000@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>





Hi all.  I've looked at the QEdit 2.0 demo, and while it looks pretty
good, it seems like it doesn't edit *everything*, but only a small subset
of a program.  Am I missing something?

Also, does anyone know what stuff comes on the CDRom?  Mainly I want to
know if Unisyn comes on it.  A subquestion of this is: I have Korg Unisyn
from my X2 -- does anyone have whatever files I need to add QS8 support
(or I guess Alesis support) to unisyn?  I don't know when I'm gonna get
that CDRom, and I really could use a graphical editor.

Finally, (and the reason I'd like the editor :) ) does anyone have any ELP
patches that didn't come on the board?  Like, for example, the big filter
sweep at the beginning of Hoedown?

Thanks all,
-Adam


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From jwinch@login.net  Tue Nov 19 13:11:54 1996
Message-Id: <199611191811.NAA02895@mtl0.login.net>
From: "Jesse Winchester" <jwinch@login.net>
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>, "Derek Donovan" <donovan@kcstar.com>
Subject: Re: QS7/8 Piano sound?








	The S4+ does not have the piano on board. I bought the Grand Piano and the
Pop/Rock card for mine, and I like them both. The piano cuts nicely in
tracks, and it's very even across the keyboard. In a pop or country
ensemble it sounds great. But no synth or sampler is going to bring Art
Tatum or Glenn Gould back. I  would do any solos, or fills that will stand
out, on an accoustic instrument - guitar, harmonica, whatever. If I could
play only keys, I would put on a kazoo or an oatmeal box and a wooden
spoon. This seems to bring the sequenced stuff to life. If you're serious
about playing classical piano music or small ensemble jazz or solo piano
*anything*, get a piano. They're heavy, I understand. The last time I had
mine tuned, it cost CAN$60. It was out of tune again about a month later.
But it sure sounds beautiful. Whoever programmed the envelopes got it just
right.
	I like the Pop/Rock card a lot. It's full of sounds that electronic
instruments are best at, and not too many of those annoying, useless loop
things.
Jesse

----------
> From: Derek Donovan <donovan@kcstar.com>
> To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
> Subject: RE: QS7/8 Piano sound?
> Date: Monday, November 18, 1996 11:15 PM
> 
> Every Alesis synth but the original Quadrasynths (the ones pre-Plus) and
the
> QS6 have the piano.  The card was originally intended to go with the old
> Quadrasynths (it was/is actually a Quadracard), but it's also for QS6
owners.
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong on this one, somebody.
> 
> I like the piano, myself.
> 
> Derek
> 

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From pynnonen@cris.com  Tue Nov 19 17:50:52 1996
Errors-To: <pynnonen@cris.com>
Message-ID: <32926445.5322@cris.com>
From: Jeff Pynnonen <pynnonen@cris.com>
Reply-To: pynnonen@cris.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I)

To: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
CC: Quadra-Synth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: QS8 keyboard stand and 8MB AMD Flashcard
References: <199611190203.VAA00233@j51.com>




I would like to know of a good stand/table for a QS8 too. I am using one
 of those "X" type stands. Its ok, the weight of the keyboard 
keeps in place, but it does move a little.

Marshall Industries (electronics distributor)(call 1-800-555-1212 for
number)
sells the AMD 8MB Flashcard for $184. 
Make sure you get the ceramic version (not the metal case), 
both have the same part number.
See the QuadraSynth Page for more info about the incompatibilty between
the metal flashcard and QS7/8.

Greg Stritmater wrote:
>         What's the going rate for the 8M flash-card for the QS's? Is
> Alesis the only supplier of these cards? Also, I'm sorry if this is a bit
> off-topic, but what's a good STURDY stand that's good for a QS8? I'm
> going to get the keyboard, stand, case, and bench all at the same time,
> so I'd like some opinions as to what I should get. The Ultimate A-frames
> seem nice, but they're kindof overkill for what I need. I have a
> Quick-Lok type 'X' stand, but it's too flimsy for my unweighted synth,
> much less a weighted one. I was looking at either the KDS stand which has
> more of a 'table' like surface to it, or maybe one of the Ultimate molded
> plastic ones. Any advice would be a help. Thanks. If this is too
> off-topic, I'm sorry, and I'd appreciate a private reply as to keep the
> noise down. Thanks.
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From andremadog@mail.telepac.pt  Tue Nov 19 18:01:01 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: Andre Oliveira <andremadog@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: QS7 or QS Plus Piano?



Hi!
I own a S4 Plus sound module for some time, but I'll have to trade it for a
keyboard version, because I sold my old master keyboard. Now that I have
been given that chance, to trade my S4+, I would like to know your opinions
about what QS to get: QS7 or QS+ Piano! Their prices are nearly the same,
but the QS+ Piano has more 8Mb of sample ROM (the phase-accurate Grand Piano
samples, I suppose). On the other hand, the QS7 has 2 sound card slots,
which means both QS7 and QS+ Piano can be expanded to a maximum of 32Mb,
right? What about the keyboard "feel"? Is it the same on both synths? (I
heard they are both made by Fatar, is this correct?) Another point to
consider is the serial connection to a PC. Is this a major advantage in the
QS7? ...I'm confused... Please, help!
Any opinion and/or suggestion would be gratefully appreciated!

Andre

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From ksherm@satsoft.com  Tue Nov 19 20:45:22 1996
Message-ID: <32926128.7626@satsoft.com>
From: Ken Sherman <ksherm@satsoft.com>
Reply-To: ksherm@satsoft.com
Organization: Cybercom Systems Inc
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (WinNT; I)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of Cakewalk...
References: <3291CA98@mssmtp.tpd.eds.com>




What hardware are you using with Cakewalk? Soundblaster? CardD+?
AudioMedia III? What is your PC hardware? 486? Pentium? IDE Hard Drive?
I'm curious because I'm planning a home studio for digital audio
recording, using the QS8, and I thought cakewalk was generally regarded
as being one of the better packages. Also, you need a lot of hard-disk
bandwidth to do more than a few 44.1 Khz digital audio traks. The Mac
has a SCSI drive, which generally gives pretty good performance. If you
are using an EIDE drive on the PC, make sure its operating in mode 4
(the bios should tell you this). Also, don't hook up an ATAPI CD ROM
drive as a slave on the same IDE port as the hard drive. This will slow
the hard drive down to mode 1, which the CD is operating at. Hook the CD
ROM up as a master to the 2nd IDE port.

Ken Sherman

Rogers_Jared wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Cakewalk... I've been a MIDI cakewalk user on a PC platform for a
> long time. I have a friend who uses a Macintosh to do digital recording and
> does some absolutely amazing recording and editing right on his screen. I
> recently found out that Cakewalk released a "Pro Audio" version which lets
> you do multichannel digital audio. I downloaded the demo and tried it.
> 
> Folks, I wouldn't recommend this program at all. Once I got it to record, the
> audio quality was horrible, tinny, and noisy. Also, Cakewalk caused my
> computer to lock up six times while trying to perform a simple multitrack
> recording. When it did work, it would overprocess the signal, etc... This is
> nothing like my friend's Macintosh-based digital-audio recording setup.
> 
> Jared
> Rogers
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________

-- 
ksherm@satsoft.com ||| "When all is said and done, much more is said
than done"
Ken Sherman, Cybercom Systems Inc, Gaithersburg, MD
Tel: (301) 279-2015 Fax: (301) 424-5350
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From pcady@ductape.org  Tue Nov 19 21:57:45 1996
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961120025703.00706958@p2.acadia.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: Paul Cady <pcady@ductape.org>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Cakewalk...



At 08:45 PM 11/19/96 -0500, Ken Sherman wrote:
>What hardware are you using with Cakewalk? Soundblaster? CardD+?
>AudioMedia III? What is your PC hardware? 486? Pentium? IDE Hard Drive?
>I'm curious because I'm planning a home studio for digital audio
>recording, using the QS8, and I thought cakewalk was generally regarded
>as being one of the better packages. Also, you need a lot of hard-disk
<rest deleted>

Don't want to digress too far here, but here's a tale of Woe and Intrigue.
I'm setting up a studio using (amoung other things) Cakewalk, SoundForge and
a QS7. They all work extremely well, by the way. The CardD+ we wanted to use
turned out to be a turkey and we returned ours. Problem was it was
registering a noise floor of -63db in SoundForge which was not much better
than the Soundblaster's -59db. A call to Digital Audio Lab's tech support
got a variety of interesting explanations: they all do it; the software is
not working correctly; software is measuring noise from the room (?!?); we
get 90db in our lab; etc. In fact, the techie told me his CardD+ had a noise
floor of -60db as measured by SoundForge but he assured me that he could get
90db in the lab. Since their Minnesota lab is a long way from Maine, we
decided to return the $579 CardD+ and go all digital since the QS7 has a
digital out. Computers drive me crazy sometimes....

Paul Cady




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From RobertREI@aol.com  Tue Nov 19 22:07:21 1996
From: RobertREI@aol.com
Message-ID: <961119220648_1983895976@emout09.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS7 or QS Plus Piano?





Hello.
     Perhaps I could shed some light on this for you, Andre.  I used to own a
QS+ Piano, but I recently traded it for a QS8.  If I were you, I'd probably
go for the QS7.  First of all, Alesis doesn't make the QS+ anymore, so you'd
be buying old technology already as compared with the QS7 which just came out
recently.  BOTH the QS+ and QS7 have that '8 megabyte' piano sample.  The
reduction in ROM on the QS7 comes from a reduction in samples from other
stuff (I'm assuming).  The programmes are the same on both the QS7 and the
QS8, and I can tell you that, IMHO, the sounds on the QS8 are very
comparable.  The PC Serial port on the QS7 is nice.  I know I like mine.
 And, eventually, I think I'll like having the extra PCMCIA card slot as
well.  Other than the larger ROM and the larger LCD display on the QS+, the
QS7 is basically the same thing with a bunch of added options.  However, I
think the QS7 lists for $1699 US (so it probably sells at about $1200-1300
US) while you might still be able to find a new QS+ for around $800-1000 US.
 Hope this helps!

God's peace,
Nate

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Nathan Roemer - Christian Music Ministry          E-mail:  robertrei@aol.com
Please visit my web site at http://users.aol.com/robertrei/private/index.htm
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'Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together 
     go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of 
     genius'.                     - Wolfgang Amad Mozart  1756-1791
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In a message dated 96-11-19 19:56:45 EST, you write:

<< Hi!
 I own a S4 Plus sound module for some time, but I'll have to trade it for a
 keyboard version, because I sold my old master keyboard. Now that I have
 been given that chance, to trade my S4+, I would like to know your opinions
 about what QS to get: QS7 or QS+ Piano! Their prices are nearly the same,
 but the QS+ Piano has more 8Mb of sample ROM (the phase-accurate Grand Piano
 samples, I suppose). On the other hand, the QS7 has 2 sound card slots,
 which means both QS7 and QS+ Piano can be expanded to a maximum of 32Mb,
 right? What about the keyboard "feel"? Is it the same on both synths? (I
 heard they are both made by Fatar, is this correct?) Another point to
 consider is the serial connection to a PC. Is this a major advantage in the
 QS7? ...I'm confused... Please, help!
 Any opinion and/or suggestion would be gratefully appreciated!
 
 Andre
  >>

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From RobertREI@aol.com  Tue Nov 19 22:07:43 1996
From: RobertREI@aol.com
Message-ID: <961119220706_1916787113@emout03.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: MIDI File Playback Problems





Hello.
     I'm using a QS8 and my PC via the serial port to play back some MIDI
files from my computer.  However, I've noticed that on some of them, I'm
getting another instrument (sounds kind of like a piano, but I can't really
tell for sure) playing the drum track.  The mystery instrument is playing the
same 'keys' that correspond with the drums, so it sounds just awful.  I've
tried playing the files in Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Windows 3.1), a demo
of Trax, and in 'Media Player' with equal results.  The QS8 is in General
MIDI mode when I'm playing these, and it happens on some files, but not on
others.  Does anyone know what's going on?  . . . and how to fix the problem?
 Thanks!

God's peace,
Nate

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Nathan Roemer - Christian Music Ministry          E-mail:  robertrei@aol.com
Please visit my web site at http://users.aol.com/robertrei/private/index.htm
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'Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together 
     go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of 
     genius'.                     - Wolfgang Amad Mozart  1756-1791
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From ksherm@satsoft.com  Tue Nov 19 22:44:21 1996
Message-ID: <32927E9A.5CFD@satsoft.com>
From: Ken Sherman <ksherm@satsoft.com>
Reply-To: ksherm@satsoft.com
Organization: Cybercom Systems Inc
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7 Digital Output (was:  Speaking of Cakewalk...)
References: <2.2.32.19961120025703.00706958@p2.acadia.net>




Paul Cady wrote:
> ......  In fact, the techie told me his CardD+ had a noise
> floor of -60db as measured by SoundForge but he assured me that he could get
> 90db in the lab. Since their Minnesota lab is a long way from Maine, we
> decided to return the $579 CardD+ and go all digital since the QS7 has a
> digital out. Computers drive me crazy sometimes....

Paul, how are you planning to do the all digital connection from your
QS7 to the PC? The only digital out on the QS7 is the ADAT optical. All
the sound cards I'm familier with have S/PDIF digital in on them. Now,
you could use an ALESIS AI-1 to convert, but is there any other method?
The AI-1 is about $700, and ALESIS has stopped making them. I too, would
like to do an all digital transfer.

-- 
ksherm@satsoft.com ||| "When all is said and done, much more is said
than done"
Ken Sherman, Cybercom Systems Inc, Gaithersburg, MD
Tel: (301) 279-2015 Fax: (301) 424-5350
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Soundcards for Sound Bridge applications



Sorry if this is redundant (I know I've said it before someplace), but...

You're never gonna get pro-quality digital recording from an in-the-box PC
expansion-slot card.  The hard disk controllers, video cards and the like
just cause too much interference.  I really, truly believe you need a
stand-alone sampler to get a good sample.  Believe me, I've tried with four
different cards.

Your best best with a soundcard, no matter the brand, would be to "sample"
to a good recording format (like DAT, DCC, MiniDisc, etc.) and re-sample it
through the line-in jack.  That's what I do, and it works fine for me and my
Soundblaster 32 PnP.  Obviously, high-fidelity isn't a big concern of mine
(I record to a cassette 8-track).  If it were, I'd buy a stand-alone sampler
and be done with it.  But then Sound Bridge would be almost redundant,
unless you HAD to have all your samples in one board.

I have heard about out-of-the-box expansion card docking stations (which let
you mount your card far from interference), but have no idea where to get
one.  A few people who know computers much better than I told me it wouldn't
work when I tried to get one built two years ago.  Can someone enlighten me
on this possibility?

Just my 2 cents,
Derek

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From ArtDob@aol.com  Tue Nov 19 23:13:47 1996
From: ArtDob@aol.com
Message-ID: <961119231315_1284699686@emout18.mail.aol.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject:  Expansion Cards





Does anyone know if the expansion cards (e.g., Piano card, Classical, etc.)
offer additional samples/sounds than what is available on the QS-8 or are
they redundant and mainly for the benefit of older quadrasynths?  If they
offer different sounds, which card offers the most variety compared to the
on-board QS8 sounds?

Art Dobrucki
artdob@aol.com
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From ArtDob@aol.com  Tue Nov 19 23:16:10 1996
From: ArtDob@aol.com
Message-ID: <961119231503_671666477@emout14.mail.aol.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: QE 2.0





Is this sound editor part of the CD-ROM that will be sent for QS7/8 owners?

Art Dobrucki
artdob@aol.com
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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Tue Nov 19 23:16:44 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Re: QS8 keyboard stand and 8MB AMD Flashcard
To: pynnonen@cris.com
Cc: Quadra-Synth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Message-id: <32928515.5CA6@uwplatt.edu>

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References: <199611190203.VAA00233@j51.com> <32926445.5322@cris.com>


The stand that I use is called a quick-loc by T.A.M Systems.  I don't
see anything more specific about it than that.  I bought it from kraft
keyboards with my QS8.  It is very sturdy, basically no movememnt at
all, even when I really am playing hard.  It also has the capability of
a second teir for a second keyboard, which is why I bought it.  If you
are interested in it, mail ben@kraftmusic.com and tell him that it is
the stand that he sold to Lauren in Platteville, and he should remember
if my description is good enough...

Lauren Buchholz
http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~buchholz
http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~buchholz/alesis.html   Small QS7/8 page with
.wav's of some of the demo's...

Jeff Pynnonen wrote:
> 
> I would like to know of a good stand/table for a QS8 too. I am using one
>  of those "X" type stands. Its ok, the weight of the keyboard
> keeps in place, but it does move a little.
> 
> Marshall Industries (electronics distributor)(call 1-800-555-1212 for
> number)
> sells the AMD 8MB Flashcard for $184.
> Make sure you get the ceramic version (not the metal case),
> both have the same part number.
> See the QuadraSynth Page for more info about the incompatibilty between
> the metal flashcard and QS7/8.
> 
> Greg Stritmater wrote:
> >         What's the going rate for the 8M flash-card for the QS's? Is
> > Alesis the only supplier of these cards? Also, I'm sorry if this is a bit
> > off-topic, but what's a good STURDY stand that's good for a QS8? I'm
> > going to get the keyboard, stand, case, and bench all at the same time,
> > so I'd like some opinions as to what I should get. The Ultimate A-frames
> > seem nice, but they're kindof overkill for what I need. I have a
> > Quick-Lok type 'X' stand, but it's too flimsy for my unweighted synth,
> > much less a weighted one. I was looking at either the KDS stand which has
> > more of a 'table' like surface to it, or maybe one of the Ultimate molded
> > plastic ones. Any advice would be a help. Thanks. If this is too
> > off-topic, I'm sorry, and I'd appreciate a private reply as to keep the
> > noise down. Thanks.
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Tue Nov 19 23:22:42 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Re: MIDI File Playback Problems
To: RobertREI@aol.com
Cc: Quadra-Synth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Message-id: <32928689.480F@uwplatt.edu>

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There is a good chance that the drums are mapping to channel 16, which a
lot of older MIDI files do.  When the file is playing, is the channel 16
activity light flasshing with the erroneous sound?  If so, either move
that track to track 10, or change the patch on channel 16 to a DM-5 or
something which has decent drum sounds.  if you don't know how to do
this, hit the "page >" button till channel 16 is in the top left of the
display.  then hit the bank button to goto bank 1, and the DM-5 patch is
preset 120.  This is nice to do if you don't want to edit the MIDI file,
but you have to do it every time you plat the song.

Hope this solves your problem...
RobertREI@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hello.
>      I'm using a QS8 and my PC via the serial port to play back some MIDI
> files from my computer.  However, I've noticed that on some of them, I'm
> getting another instrument (sounds kind of like a piano, but I can't really
> tell for sure) playing the drum track.  The mystery instrument is playing the
> same 'keys' that correspond with the drums, so it sounds just awful.  I've
> tried playing the files in Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Windows 3.1), a demo
> of Trax, and in 'Media Player' with equal results.  The QS8 is in General
> MIDI mode when I'm playing these, and it happens on some files, but not on
> others.  Does anyone know what's going on?  . . . and how to fix the problem?
>  Thanks!
> 
> God's peace,
> Nate
> 
> ****************************************************************************
> Nathan Roemer - Christian Music Ministry          E-mail:  robertrei@aol.com
> Please visit my web site at http://users.aol.com/robertrei/private/index.htm
> ________________________________________________-
> 'Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together
>      go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of
>      genius'.                     - Wolfgang Amad Mozart  1756-1791
> ****************************************************************************
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Tue Nov 19 23:54:21 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Re: QS7 or QS Plus Piano?



You forgot that the QS+ is the coolest-looking synth on the planet.
(Especially if you get one before the upgrade, before there was almost any
printing on it)  : )

D

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From wynn@eedcmail.nb.rockwell.com  Wed Nov 20 03:01:35 1996
From: Wynn Mark <wynn@eedcmail.nb.rockwell.com>
To: "'QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: QS7/QS8 8MB piano
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I asked Alesis technical support whether the on-board piano samples were   
the same as the 8MB QuadraCard.  Below is the response.
All the best,
Mark
=============
The QS7&8's piano is based on the same sample, but it has
been phase corrected and leveled

The Stereo Grand Piano Plus card will have the same piano as
in the QS7&8, so it will be of value to QS,S4,QS+,S4+, and
QS6 users. It also will have a lot of strings, oohs, and
waves on it that S7&8 user's will have a use for. We are
trying to make the cards so there is something of value for
all our keyboard users.

I like the piano, too. I think it's good to have a variety of sounds.

Adam Brisben
Technical Support
Alesis Studio Electronics.
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 04:24:11 1996
message-id: <aebibfdb@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Derek Donovan <donovan@KCSTAR.COM>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: QS7/8 Piano sound?






<<Every Alesis synth but the original Quadrasynths (the ones pre-Plus) and the
QS6 have the piano.  The card was originally intended to go with the old
Quadrasynths (it was/is actually a Quadracard), but it's also for QS6 owners.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this one, somebody.>>

S4+ units as well...the rack didn't have the big Bosendorfer.

<<I like the piano, myself.>>
Me too...I still have a Micropiano from when I used to work at Kurzweil; and 
apart from being mono and about a meg and a half, it's compressed and 
looped...Yamaha module sounds very nice...their good piano is only 16 voice 
though, isn't it?
dB
Alesis Keyboards


Derek

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 04:24:13 1996
message-id: <aebidcem@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: ArtDob@AOL.COM, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QE 2.0






<<Is this sound editor part of the CD-ROM that will be sent for QS7/8 owners?>>

Demo version only.

dB
Alesis


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 04:24:13 1996
message-id: <aebidlfi@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: ArtDob@AOL.COM, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Expansion Cards






<<Does anyone know if the expansion cards (e.g., Piano card, Classical, etc.)
offer additional samples/sounds than what is available on the QS-8 or are
they redundant and mainly for the benefit of older quadrasynths?  If they
offer different sounds, which card offers the most variety compared to the
on-board QS8 sounds?>>
Piano is redundant...others (classical, sanctuary, hip-hop, and the new 
eurotechno card are all brand new).
Most Variety?  Depends on what kind of music you play...the hip hop card is the 
one that sounds totally different from most things in the QS, bu t sanctuary is 
my current fave.
dB
Alesis


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 04:24:12 1996
message-id: <aebibpfb@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Adam Levin <alevin@ZEN.CC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Editors for QS8






<<Also, does anyone know what stuff comes on the CDRom?  Mainly I want to
know if Unisyn comes on it.>>

Yep.

<<  A subquestion of this is: I have Korg Unisyn
from my X2 -- does anyone have whatever files I need to add QS8 support
(or I guess Alesis support) to unisyn?>>

Mark of the Unicorn does...call them.

<<  I don't know when I'm gonna get
that CDRom, and I really could use a graphical editor.>>
I keep getting told they'll be ready at the end of each week, and we keep 
finding new bugs...I'm told they've been cleared now...

<<Finally, (and the reason I'd like the editor :) ) does anyone have any ELP
patches that didn't come on the board?  Like, for example, the big filter
sweep at the beginning of Hoedown?>>
We actually sampled that for Keith and put it on a card (the vacuum cleaner 
sound, he calls it).  I tried to synthesize it, and coudn't get it quite right.
dB
Alesis


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 04:24:12 1996
message-id: <aebidbag@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: RobertREI@AOL.COM, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: QS7 or QS Plus Piano?






<<  First of all, Alesis doesn't make the QS+ anymore, so yo=
u'd
be buying old technology already as compared with the QS7 which just came=
 out
recently.>>
Both have exactly the same engine and effects, so it's not really old 
technology.

<<  BOTH the QS+ and QS7 have that '8 megabyte' piano sample.  The
reduction in ROM on the QS7 comes from a reduction in samples from other
stuff (I'm assuming).>>

Not so.  The piano in the 7 (and 8) *has* had it's sample rate slightly reduced 
to get it to fit.  However, the 7 and 8 have a new phantom sample called 
Velopiano that the QS+ doesn't have that gives one a more realistic and dynamic 
piano by readdressing the loop start point further back on lower velocities to 
eliminate the hammer noise...it can be found in the PureStereo pprogram (User 
bank, prog 00).

dB
Alesis

  

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From sladep@which.co.uk  Wed Nov 20 07:11:27 1996
From: sladep@which.co.uk
Message-Id: <96112011544291@which.co.uk>
To: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Expansion Cards
X-Vms-To: SMTP%"dbryce@alesis1.usa.com"
X-Vms-Cc: SMTP%"quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com",SLADEP





dB from Alesis wrote:
>Piano is redundant...others (classical, sanctuary, hip-hop, and the new 
>eurotechno card are all brand new).

I've heard of the Classical card, but the others are news to me. What's the
Sanctuary card all about - ambient texture-type sounds?

Are all these available in the UK yet? I believe Sound Technology distributes
Alesis gear here - I couldn't find them on the web; does anyone have a web
address for them?

And while I'm on...

I'd love to have an arpeggiator to play with, and since the QS doesn't have one
I was wondering if there's a little box or bit of software that takes the MIDI
signals from the QS and arpeggiates the notes until a note off signal is
received. Anyone seen anything like this on the market?

peter slade
london
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From lpf004@email.mot.com  Wed Nov 20 09:01:25 1996
Message-Id: <3292C8C5.596E@email.mot.com>
From: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Cc: lpf004@email.mot.com
Subject: just starting out...
X-Url: http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_main.htm




Hi, 
I'm Paul, a new s4+ owner and I'm trying to get up and running. Here 
is my situation:

		- I'll be using the module for sequencing only (with Master Tracks 
Pro on a Mac 575 Performa)

  - I managed to create (in mix User99) a basic mix that enables all 
16 channels and takes it's effects from channel 16.

  - For the time being I'm only going to use the sound patches 
(programs) as they came with the unit. I'll leave off sound design 
until I've got the "out of the box" features well in hand. 

  - I have successfully used the following midi messages:
     - Program
     - 0:  bank
					- 1:  modulation
					- 7:  volume
					- 10: pan
					-121: reset all
					- 123 all notes off

  - Here's what I'd like to learn. 

I need to pick an effects patch (with 640 to chose from I shouldn't 
have to create my own) stick it into program User127. I'm looking for
a general purpose configuration with eq if possible. AND once I get 
and save this effects patch, I need to know how to map the various 
controllable elements of each effect in the patch to midi control 
message numbers so that I can control them via midi. And if you can 
explain to me (in simple terms) how these effects feed in and out of 
eachother and interact with eachother I'm all ears.  

I mapped controllers A,B,C and D to midi controllers 16 - 19 but I 
could only control the midi channel (16) that the effects were taken 
from. Shouldn't I be able to use these effects on any midi channel in 
the sequence?

How do you tell what effects are in the effects configuration you 
picked?

If there are any other midi control messages that are useful and easy 
to use I'd greatly appreciate hearing about them too.


Thanks in advance. 

Paul Fazzina     lpf004@email.mot.com
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From RogersJ@tpd.eds.com  Wed Nov 20 09:32:47 1996
From: Rogers_Jared <RogersJ@tpd.eds.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of Cakewalk...
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>What hardware are you using with Cakewalk? Soundblaster? CardD+?
>AudioMedia III? What is your PC hardware? 486? Pentium? IDE Hard Drive?

Pentium-90 machine w/ 40MB RAM and a 2GB SCSI hard drive. Sound card used is 
a SoundBlaster AWE32. Granted, its no CardD+, but it should have sounded 
better than it did.

>I'm curious because I'm planning a home studio for digital audio
>recording, using the QS8, and I thought cakewalk was generally regarded
>as being one of the better packages.

Maybe it is, but after what I've seen comparing the PC to the MAC, I woulnd't 
use anything but a MAC. And I'm a die-hard PC guy! :)

>Also, don't hook up an ATAPI CD ROM drive as a slave on the same IDE port as 
>the hard drive. This will slow the hard drive down to mode 1, which the CD 
>is operating at. Hook the CD ROM up as a master to the 2nd IDE port.

Thanks for the tips. My system is set up with IDE hard drives on the first 
controller and the CD-ROM on the second. However, I was recording to my 2GB 
SCSI hard drive. One of my main problems with Cakewalk is that it kept 
locking up my machine. Grrrrrrr!

Jared
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From alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu  Wed Nov 20 09:35:56 1996
From: Adam Levin <alevin@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Expansion Cards
In-Reply-To: <96112011544291@which.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.94.961120093352.21989E-100000@zen.cc.stevens-tech.edu>





On Wed, 20 Nov 1996 sladep@which.co.uk wrote:
> dB from Alesis wrote:
> >Piano is redundant...others (classical, sanctuary, hip-hop, and the new 
> >eurotechno card are all brand new).
> I've heard of the Classical card, but the others are news to me. What's the
> Sanctuary card all about - ambient texture-type sounds?

The sanctuary card is supposed to be full of church type stuff.  Horns,
strings, lots of pipes, that sort of thing.  Incidentally, someone else (I
think) asked about whether there are new samples and stuff.  The way Dave
Bryce explained it once, he said that the new cards coming out have the
patches and samples on one card, so that they'll be useful on all of their
synths.  This sanctuary card will have new samples as well as patches that
use them.  I know it's at the top of my Christmas list, assuming it's out
by then :).


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From ArtDob@aol.com  Wed Nov 20 10:51:48 1996
From: ArtDob@aol.com
Message-ID: <961120105117_229062843@emout11.mail.aol.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Sanctuary Card Available?





Is the sanctuary card available for purchase yet?

Art Dobrucki
artdob@aol.com
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From chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com  Wed Nov 20 13:19:17 1996
Message-Id: <199611201824.LAA17247@ratcage.fc.hp.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Soundcards for Sound Bridge applications 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:59:28 EST."
             <199611200248.UAA00425@kcsg1.kcstar.com> 
From: Channing Benson <chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com>





> You're never gonna get pro-quality digital recording from an in-the-box PC
> expansion-slot card.  The hard disk controllers, video cards and the like
> just cause too much interference.  I really, truly believe you need a
> stand-alone sampler to get a good sample.  Believe me, I've tried with four
> different cards.

Your experience on the PC notwithstanding, I find this line (in-the-box
cards are no good) to be silly.  I use the internal hardware on a Mac
840AV for both A-D and D-A.  They are not great (and probably not
"professional" quality), but they are good enough.  There is so much more
that goes into a quality recording than A-D conversions; unless you're
producing for a record label, concentrating on this part of the chain is
silly.  A guy I know went to all sorts of pains to get quality A-D, keep
everything in the digital domain while composing, etc.  And he's asking
me why my recordings sound so good.  It ain't the meat, it's the motion!
Use your ears!

> Your best best with a soundcard, no matter the brand, would be to "sample"
> to a good recording format (like DAT, DCC, MiniDisc, etc.) and re-sample it
> through the line-in jack.  

Sorry I don't understand the logic of this at all. Hopefully, the "good
recording format" will exactly duplicate the signal it was fed. How will
this resampling be any different than just using the computer hardware in
the first place?

			-- Chan

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Wed Nov 20 13:58:06 1996
Message-Id: <199611201858.NAA29657@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Expansion Cards





On 20 Nov 96 at 7:11, sladep@which.co.uk wrote:

> And while I'm on...
> 
> I'd love to have an arpeggiator to play with, and since the QS doesn't have
> one I was wondering if there's a little box or bit of software that takes the
> MIDI signals from the QS and arpeggiates the notes until a note off signal is
> received. Anyone seen anything like this on the market?

Peter, 

Try to find an Oberheim Strummer, they sell for around $150 new, and
under $100 used, (here in the US.) It's a very intelligent little box,  can 
imitate all sorts of guitar playing, and makes a great arpeggiator. You'll have
tons of fun with it. 

Les

--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From jcast@micro-net.com  Wed Nov 20 14:54:57 1996
From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@micro-net.com>
X-Sender: jcast@candy
To: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: quadrasynth piano sound
In-Reply-To: <96112011544291@which.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961120144951.28890C-100000@candy>





I'm curious.  From what kind of piano does the piano sound come from (in
the QS Plus, Quadra Card, ETC.)?  It might have been mentioned before, but
I forget.  Also, is this the same type of piano that is used in the S4
(rack-mount) version?

Thanks.


Jason

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From heini@post4.tele.dk  Wed Nov 20 16:44:39 1996
From: heini@post4.tele.dk (Guttesen, Heini Juul)
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: One Key Is not playing QS8






Message-ID: <19961120214354.AAA10178@computer-1>


I Have just bought a QS8, and it's great, - but the Ab2 key is not working.
has anyone got the same problem?

I'm sure that it can be repaired under warrenty, but I wil miss the QS8
while it is being repaired.

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From RobertREI@aol.com  Wed Nov 20 17:13:56 1996
From: RobertREI@aol.com
Message-ID: <961120171325_1318350578@emout08.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: MIDI File Playback Problem





Hello.
     That solved the problem.  Swtiching the programme on channel 16 to a
percussion kit did the trick.  Thanks very much!

God's peace,
Nate

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In a message dated 96-11-19 23:23:13 EST, you write:

<< There is a good chance that the drums are mapping to channel 16, which a
 lot of older MIDI files do.  When the file is playing, is the channel 16
 activity light flasshing with the erroneous sound?  If so, either move
 that track to track 10, or change the patch on channel 16 to a DM-5 or
 something which has decent drum sounds.  if you don't know how to do
 this, hit the "page >" button till channel 16 is in the top left of the
 display.  then hit the bank button to goto bank 1, and the DM-5 patch is
 preset 120.  This is nice to do if you don't want to edit the MIDI file,
 but you have to do it every time you plat the song.
 
 Hope this solves your problem...
 RobertREI@aol.com wrote:
 > 
 > Hello.
 >      I'm using a QS8 and my PC via the serial port to play back some MIDI
 > files from my computer.  However, I've noticed that on some of them, I'm
 > getting another instrument (sounds kind of like a piano, but I can't
really
 > tell for sure) playing the drum track.  The mystery instrument is playing
the
 > same 'keys' that correspond with the drums, so it sounds just awful.  I've
 > tried playing the files in Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Windows 3.1), a
demo
 > of Trax, and in 'Media Player' with equal results.  The QS8 is in General
 > MIDI mode when I'm playing these, and it happens on some files, but not on
 > others.  Does anyone know what's going on?  . . . and how to fix the
problem?
 >  Thanks!
 > 
 > God's peace,
 > Nate >>

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From QUAZ4@aol.com  Wed Nov 20 17:54:39 1996
From: QUAZ4@aol.com
Message-ID: <961120175406_352241768@emout07.mail.aol.com>
To: RogersJ@tpd.eds.com

Subject: Re: Speaking of Cakewalk...





In a message dated 96-11-19 13:52:32 EST, you write:

<< Folks, I wouldn't recommend this program at all. Once I got it to record,
the 
 audio quality was horrible, tinny, and noisy. Also, Cakewalk caused my 
 computer to lock up six times while trying to perform a simple multitrack 
 recording. When it did work, it would overprocess the signal, etc... This is

 nothing like my friend's Macintosh-based digital-audio recording setup.
  >>

Sorry you had a bad experience, but Cakewalk works just fine for me.

The problem with your digital audio is probably due to the quality of your
card, or the way it's configured.

My computer has never locked up while running Cakewalk (I have had that
problem with Cubase). 

Point :: Have you really tried to diagnose your problem? Mac's are about 2
years ahead of PC's in digital audio..this is a fact. PC's are catching up
quickly. So, either get a Mac, or love your PC.

Tony Daniels

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From QUAZ4@aol.com  Wed Nov 20 17:54:43 1996
From: QUAZ4@aol.com
Message-ID: <961120175413_352241823@emout12.mail.aol.com>
To: ArtDob@aol.com, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QE 2.0





Nope.

Paul S  wrote it himself.
(maybe he should talk to Alesis !!!!  It is a worthwhile addition for a QS)


Tony Daniels

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 23:29:16 1996
message-id: <bhbmacbl@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Jason Castonguay <jcast@MICRO-NET.COM>, dbryce@alesis1.usa.com,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: quadrasynth piano sound






<<I'm curious.  From what kind of piano does the piano sound come from (in
the QS Plus, Quadra Card, ETC.)?  It might have been mentioned before, but
I forget.  Also, is this the same type of piano that is used in the S4
(rack-mount) version?>>

Bosendorfer Imperial Grand.  Not the same as the S4+ - that's one of the reasons 
we make the Piano expansion board.



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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 23:29:27 1996
message-id: <bhbmaadd@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Les Winters <lwinters@midiworld.com>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: Expansion Cards






<<Try to find an Oberheim Strummer, they sell for around $150 new, and
under $100 used, (here in the US.) It's a very intelligent little box,  can
imitate all sorts of guitar playing, and makes a great arpeggiator. You'll have
tons of fun with it.>>

Isn't it the Oberheim Cyclone that's the arpeggiator?  I'm pretty sure that's 
the case...the strummer did guitar strumming emulations - also fun.
dB


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 20 23:29:16 1996
message-id: <bhbldkfm@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Adam Levin <alevin@ZEN.CC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: Expansion Cards






<<The sanctuary card is supposed to be full of church type stuff.  Horns,
strings, lots of pipes, that sort of thing.>>

...and choirs, all kinds of bells (handbells came out spectacularly), a whole 
slew of pipe organs, a bunch o' sound FX - wind, rain, flood, walls of Jericho 
falling (really), etc.  

<<Incidentally, someone else (I think) asked about whether there are new samples 
and stuff.  The way Dave Bryce explained it once, he said that the new cards 
coming out have the patches and samples on one card, so that they'll be useful 
on all of their synths.>>
100% correct.

<<This sanctuary card will have new samples as well as patches that
use them.>>
and a few demo sequences...

<<I know it's at the top of my Christmas list, assuming it's out
by then :).>>

If not by Christmas, immediately afterward...it's fully finished, we're just 
waiting for the mass produced ones and the art to be finished.

dB
Alesis


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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Thu Nov 21 00:21:16 1996
Message-Id: <199611210521.AAA22232@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Re[2]: Expansion Cards





On 20 Nov 96 at 20:14, David Bryce wrote:

> Isn't it the Oberheim Cyclone that's the arpeggiator?  I'm pretty sure that's
> the case...the strummer did guitar strumming emulations - also fun. dB

The Strummer can be used as an arpeggiator, and it's a whole lot better than the
Roland XP10 for example. 

Les
--
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New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From HawkinM@solcorp.com  Thu Nov 21 11:47:27 1996
From: Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@solcorp.com>
To: "'Quadralist'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Encoding: 21 TEXT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0
Message-Id: <96Nov21.104955est.21764@gateway.solcorp.com>





I am looking for a few recommendations from anybody on the QS list.

I am thinking of buying a second synth to go with my QS6.  It's primary   
use would be as a midi controller keyboard to give me a bit more keyboard   
room for live work.

I would be using the QS6 as the sound source but it would be nice if the   
second synth had a few usable sounds of its own.

Any recommendations would be helpful as the last synth I used before my   
QS6 was a Yamaha DX7 so there's a bit if gap in my knowledge of what's   
out there.

Also do I need to worry about the implementation of midi on the second   
synth.?

Thanks, Michael


   
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From jcast@micro-net.com  Thu Nov 21 15:16:25 1996
From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@micro-net.com>
X-Sender: jcast@candy
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: banks per quadra card
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961121151325.17814A-100000@candy>





Does each RAM card for the quadrasynth keyboard contain only one bank of
sounds?  If not, up to how many banks can you have on a card and how many
patches (or programs) per bank?  Also, can mixes be stored on a Ram card
as well?

Thanks in advance.


Jason Castonguay

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From UNDERWOOD@INTEL7.intel.com  Thu Nov 21 17:24:31 1996
From: CHUCK UNDERWOOD PAGER 4788 X3-8221 INTEL FAB 7 <UNDERWOOD@INTEL7.intel.com>
Message-Id: <9611212224.utk10691@INTEL7.intel.com>
X-To: HERMES::"quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com"
Subject: Differences..
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com





	Could someone please send me a list of the different quadrasynths?
	I see references to QS4, 7, 8, +,  what are they and what are
	the differences?

				Thanks  Chuck
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From bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca  Thu Nov 21 19:21:22 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca (Bob Forsyth)
Subject: Hmmnnn?



        Another 8 meg piano card?
Does this mean that there is a better piano sample coming for my poor old QS+?
I do hope that this one sample is really 8 megs...........not like the 8 meg
on my QS+..........which was really a few different piano samples and such
totaling 8 megs(shame on you Alesis!). Is there going to be a new card with
the new analog waves on it?

I also want to know if any of you out there know where I can get eithere
text or a working program for delay times for beats per 1/2, 1/4 1/8 notes.
Much obliged
Bob

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From bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca  Thu Nov 21 19:23:31 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca (Bob Forsyth)
Subject: 



        Another 8 meg piano card?
Does this mean that there is a better piano sample coming for my poor old QS+?
I do hope that this one sample is really 8 megs...........not like the 8 meg
on my QS+..........which was really a few different piano samples and such
totaling 8 megs(shame on you Alesis!). Is there going to be a new card with
the new analog waves on it?

I also want to know if any of you out there know where I can get eithere
text or a working program for delay times for beats per 1/2, 1/4 1/8 notes.
Much obliged
Bob

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From jcast@micro-net.com  Thu Nov 21 21:32:21 1996
From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@micro-net.com>
X-Sender: jcast@candy
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: piano sample?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961121213055.24682E-100000@candy>





By one of the messages on this list, someone said that on the QS Plus,
there was more than one piano sample?  Really?  I thought there was only
one (the 8-meg one) and it was just utilized differently for each of the
piano-like programs.  Hmmm.

Thanks.


Jason

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From brentp@u.washington.edu  Thu Nov 21 23:24:11 1996
From: B Plump <brentp@u.washington.edu>
Reply-To: B Plump <brentp@u.washington.edu>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: SB 2.0 and Drum samples
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961121213055.24682E-100000@candy>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961121201433.8090A-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu>





I've been having trouble using my own drum samples on my QS+.  I load the
samples into a Drum Group with SoundBridge 2.0 (Mac), then download the
samples to my FlashRAM card.  Then, I reset the keyboard (cleared the edit
buffer) as the manual suggests, edit a program, set a sound to drum mode,
then go to the Voice Select screen.  The drum group that I just downloaded
is nowhere to be found!  I've also tried loading the same samples in a
keyboard group (so the real samples are in the drum group and the keyboard
group contains phantom samples) and using them.  That works fine, but I
really can't get the drum samples to show up (in drum mode)!  I'm almost
positive I'm not doing anything wrong on the computer end of things...

Has anyone been able to use drum sounds using a QS+ and SB2.0?

Thanks,

-- Brent


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Nov 22 07:29:47 1996
message-id: <ahcabdfj@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Bob Forsyth <bforsyth@INTERGATE.BC.CA>, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re:






<< Another 8 meg piano card?
Does this mean that there is a better piano sample coming for my poor old QS+?>>

No...it's basically the same sample.


<<I do hope that this one sample is really 8 megs...........not like the 8 meg
on my QS+..........which was really a few different piano samples and such
totaling 8 megs(shame on you Alesis!).>>

You are incorrect, sir...it is possible to glean many different incarnations out 
of a single sample by using phantom programming...this basically allows you to 
address the same sample a few different ways to get different sounds out of 
it...as I explained in an earlier post, in the QS8, there is the regular version 
of the Bosendorfer, then there's another incarnation called VeloPiano, which 
instructs the sample's loop restart point to start further away from the sound 
of the hammer the softer you play.  There's a few other incarnations (bright 
piano, dark piano, etc) - but they're all basically just different manipulations 
of the same sample.
Hope that makes it a little clearer.

dB
Alesis

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Nov 22 07:29:47 1996
message-id: <ahcabmfe@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Jason Castonguay <jcast@MICRO-NET.COM>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: banks per quadra card






<<Does each RAM card for the quadrasynth keyboard contain only one bank of
sounds?  If not, up to how many banks can you have on a card and how many
patches (or programs) per bank?  Also, can mixes be stored on a Ram card
as well?>>

Yes to the first question...one bank per card.  I believe that the new cards 
will also come with a diskette with one or two alternative banks, and a sysex 
loader program.

Yes to the second question...the RAM cards hold four extra banks of programs and 
mixes.

dB
Alesis

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From naso@aguila.gda.itesm.mx  Fri Nov 22 10:42:56 1996
From: "Guillermo Rosado Ontiveros." <naso@aguila.gda.itesm.mx>
Message-Id: <199611221642.KAA00308@aguila.gda.itesm.mx>
To: bforsyth@INTERGATE.BC.CA, dbryce@alesis1.usa.com,
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Subject: Re:





Is there any way to program this "VeloPiano" patch in the
QS+ Piano?

Thanks.

Willy.
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From chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com  Fri Nov 22 11:38:09 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: On The Level 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:48:48 EST."
             <3295685E.2364@email.mot.com> 
From: Channing Benson <chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com>





> If I use my s4+ in a simple mix mode where the program on each channel 
> uses its own effects configuration, 

Stop right there. In Mix mode, only one FX config is in effect (ha-ha)
at a time.

> can I control the level of the 
> effects on each channel separately from my midi sequence? 

I believe so, but I've never looked into the FX modulation capabilities.
I just get a mix I like and stick with it.

			-- Chan

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From vergil@midusa.net  Fri Nov 22 23:06:08 1996
Message-ID: <32967A65.4869@midusa.net>
From: Chris <vergil@midusa.net>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7 Owners...




For my own curiosity, I am wondering how many QS7 owners are on this
list... I hear a lot of QS+ and QS8 talk but not a whole lot.
Interestingly enough, in Alesis' "Product Line 1996" catalog, they don't
have the QS7 mentioned either.

Here's why - I've been having horrible luck with the QS7 as a product.
My first QS7 had a problem with the right audio channel cutting out and
was sent to alesis for return exchange. After two weeks I finally
recieved my replacement only to have it arrive DOA - when I power the
unit up it lights up the LCD (but with no data in it) and there is
nothing but hiss on the audio. A tech at alesis agreed that it was dead.

Anyhow, I guess what I am asking is this: QS7 owners - what kind of luck
have you had? I would like to think that this is just a string of
statistically impossible bad luck (assuming Alesis is a good product - I
only have what's on paper to look at since it's been about a month since
I played a properly functioning unit). Tell me your honest opinions of
Alesis, your experiences with support and quality. I must know because,
quite frankly, I could barely afford this keyboard, and I have not been
satisfied yet. I'm considering returning it for a refund.

I know several employees of Alesis frequent this list, and I would like
to thank them, most notibly Adam B., who has provided most excellent
assistance in this matter. I hope that we can continue working together
if/when I have a working unit. I would also like to thank Les Winters
for maintaining the web site (which has proved invaluable despite the
lack of a working unit to use some of the goodies on) and the mailing
list. 

Please don't flood the list with your replies - send them to me please.

Thanks for your time,

Christopher Wall
vergil@midusa.net
http://homepage.netspaceonline.com/~vergil
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Sat Nov 23 02:29:43 1996
message-id: <acbnajbh@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: "Guillermo Rosado Ontiveros." <naso@AGUILA.GDA.ITESM.MX>,
        bforsyth@INTERGATE.BC.CA, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]:






<<Is there any way to program this "VeloPiano" patch in the
QS+ Piano?>>

Unfortunately, no.

dB
Alesis




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From senip@j51.com  Sat Nov 23 09:43:03 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199611231440.JAA03298@j51.com>
Subject: Two Keyboards on a QS/8?
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b]





	I was wondering if it would be possible to be playing one sound 
on the QS8, like say the Rhodes patch, and use a controller keyboard to 
play a different sound on the QS8 (like a clav, or synth) at the same 
time? I imagine with 64 note poly it should be feasable. If it is, then 
I'd be extremely happy, since that means I would be able to use both the 
weighted keyboard and a non weighted controller .. but I wont get my 
hopes up :) 


					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From elson@westworld.com  Sat Nov 23 12:34:47 1996
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To: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
Subject: Re: Two Keyboards on a QS/8?



At 09.43 AM 11/23/96 -0500, Greg Stritmater wrote:
>	I was wondering if it would be possible to be playing one sound 
>on the QS8, like say the Rhodes patch, and use a controller keyboard to 
>play a different sound on the QS8 (like a clav, or synth) at the same 
>time? I imagine with 64 note poly it should be feasable. 

It's entirely feasible - get a nonweighted controller, connect it's MIDI out
to the QS8's MIDI in, and go into MIX mode. Assign two patches, with each
having its own channel, and set the QS8's MIDI channel to one of them, and
assign the other keyboard the channel of the other patch. There ya go...

Elson
 
                                     -30-
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Elson Trinidad

Los Angeles, CA, USA                                                     
elson@westworld.com * http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Nov 23 13:35:00 1996
Message-ID: <32974546.4A3D@mail.magg.net>
From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Two Keyboards on a QS/8?
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> It's entirely feasible - get a nonweighted controller, connect it's MIDI out
> to the QS8's MIDI in, and go into MIX mode. Assign two patches, with each
> having its own channel, and set the QS8's MIDI channel to one of them, and
> assign the other keyboard the channel of the other patch. There ya go...
> 
Also, you must put the keyboard in chanel solo mode, or the Alesis will
still play all of the various voices within the MiX...
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From dtibor@pa.mother.com  Sat Nov 23 17:44:08 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: David <dtibor@pa.mother.com>
Subject: HELP!  Can't get qs6 working with PC...



 I have a new QS6 and a serial cable I purchased from Alesis.  I
installed the drivers, and hooked up the synth, and followed the (few) 
instructions on setting up the system (with a PC clone).  Can't get it to 
function.  

I have an AST 486-33 with 8 mb memory.  Zoom 14.4 external modem on com 1.
soundblaster (old one) installed.  Mouse is on bus connection.  Hooked up
QS6 with serial cable purchased from Alesis.  Installed drivers from CD-ROM,
and set the Alesis driver to Com 2.  I run Soundbridge, and the check the
midi connection option, and it searches but CANNOT find the qs6.  I don't
know much about checking IRQ's, etc.

Any ideas?  Can someone give me more information on hooking this up?
A walk through, etc.  Has anyone had similar trouble, or has the hook up
gone smoothly for you?  Thanks much!!!

David.

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From senip@j51.com  Sat Nov 23 19:42:32 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199611240039.TAA29751@j51.com>
Subject: Les, Elson Adrian .. Thanks (Re: Two Keyboards ..)
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b]





	You guys are the best! :) I'm very happy to hear this. I was 
really hoping that I'd be able to use the QS8 in this way, and now I want 
the damn synth even more! :) Hopefully, in a few weeks, I'll not only 
have the money for it, but will have a store that actually HAS it. Now 
I'll have to get that little 61 key Fatar once I sell my old synth. 


	Ps. I hope no one minds me mentioning this, but I have a Peavey 
DPM3se+ for sale, please email me if you're interested. Don't worry, the 
money will go for a VERY good cause (a new QS8) :)


				Thanks again,

						Greg Stritmater
						senip@j51.com
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Sat Nov 23 23:29:43 1996
message-id: <bhbpbmci@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@MAGG.NET>, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: Two Keyboards on a QS/8?





> It's entirely feasible - get a nonweighted controller, connect it's MIDI out
> to the QS8's MIDI in, and go into MIX mode. Assign two patches, with each
> having its own channel, and set the QS8's MIDI channel to one of them, and
> assign the other keyboard the channel of the other patch. There ya go...
>
<<Also, you must put the keyboard in chanel solo mode, or the Alesis will
still play all of the various voices within the MiX...>>

Each channel of a mix can be set to send MIDI, and/or recieve MIDI, and/or be 
able to be triggered from the keyboard without having to go to [Ch Solo] mode.  
On the QS+, these parameters can be found under the [range] menu on page 2.  On 
the QS6, 7, and 8 it's button 90 [keyboard/MIDI].  so you can use the QS8's 
keyboard to trigger a few sounds, and, depending on the capabilities of the 
other keyboard, it can trigger another whole set of sounds.

dB
Alesis 
dB





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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Nov 23 23:58:24 1996
Message-ID: <3297D765.C2A@mail.magg.net>
From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Soundbridge




I am yet to be able to store sysex banks onto my Flsh card using SB 1.2
and my QS+...
has any one finally figured out how to do this?... someone mention that
it worked using Unisys software... 
is this true, and if so, where can I find it?
peace.
Adrian

"http://www.landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
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From spook@netexp.net  Sun Nov 24 07:22:02 1996
From: spook@netexp.net
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Hep me!
Message-ID: <19961124122221.AAA2272@cmh1-p113.netexp.net>



Howdy all. I just subscribed to this list yesterday, after buying a QS7 on
Monday.  Does anyone else find the manual to be needlessly complicated
or am I just slow on the uptake?  Anyway, I love the synth but can't seem
to figure something out.  If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it.

Okay.  I'm running Cakewalk Pro Audio, and want the first 14 channels
to be dedicated to the QS7. Channels 15 and 16 I'd like to use to control
2 other keyboards.  How do I set up a mix to reflect this?  Sorry to
bother everyone with such a basic RTFM question, but I've been at it
for a few days and can't get it to work.  My hunch is I've got something
set wrong on one of the pages, but damned if I know which one.

Oh, and  one more thing--just to make sure I'm understanding things:
Am I right in assuming that in order to use the QS7's factory mixes with
Cakewalk I'll have to essentially dissect each one and manually set
up Cakewalk's track listing page to match the programs/channels? There's
no way to configure this so it automatically loads the QS7 mix into
Cakewalk, is there?

Thanks in advance for tolerating my naieve yammerings.

spook 

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From progmon@eden.com  Sun Nov 24 07:30:36 1996
Message-ID: <32983FA6.136C@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>

Subject: Re: Soundbridge
References: <3297D765.C2A@mail.magg.net>




Adrian Wagner wrote:
> 
> I am yet to be able to store sysex banks onto my Flsh card using SB 1.2
> and my QS+...
> has any one finally figured out how to do this?... someone mention that
> it worked using Unisys software...
> is this true, and if so, where can I find it?
> peace.
> Adrian
My experience is that it does not work with Unisyn.  Instead, try
Freeloader, the utility Alesis made.  Its on Les's Quadrasynth page. 
Best off all, Freeloader is like the title suggests, free.  Also, make
sure you ahve the latest SB 1.2.  It appears there are two versions of
sb 1.2 Win.  I was having similar troubles till freeloader.

-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From composer@ix.netcom.com  Sun Nov 24 08:30:22 1996
Message-ID: <32984DFE.6FC@ix.netcom.com>
From: Steve Horner <composer@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: composer@ix.netcom.com
Organization: Steve Horner Music, Inc.
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To: spook@netexp.net

Subject: Re: Hep me!
References: <19961124122221.AAA2272@cmh1-p113.netexp.net>




spook@netexp.net wrote:
> Okay.  I'm running Cakewalk Pro Audio, and want the first 14 channels
> to be dedicated to the QS7. Channels 15 and 16 I'd like to use to control
> 2 other keyboards.  How do I set up a mix to reflect this?  Sorry to
> bother everyone with such a basic RTFM question, but I've been at it
> for a few days and can't get it to work.  My hunch is I've got something
> set wrong on one of the pages, but damned if I know which one.
>

Spook,
Select the mix "multi 1-16" in the general midi mix group (preset 4) and
then disable channel 15 and 16 in the mix edit mode. After you have it
working save the mix to User mix 00. This mix is a good starter for a
sequencing setup. Make sure you have the midi out mode in the Global
settings page set for a channel (1-16) so the qs7 will be set to Local
off.
 
> Oh, and  one more thing--just to make sure I'm understanding things:
> Am I right in assuming that in order to use the QS7's factory mixes with
> Cakewalk I'll have to essentially dissect each one and manually set
> up Cakewalk's track listing page to match the programs/channels? There's
> no way to configure this so it automatically loads the QS7 mix into
> Cakewalk, is there?

You can download an instrument definition for the QS7 from the
quadrasynth pages at http://www.midiworld.com . Just copy the definition
into your cakewalk folder and then import it into your instrument list.
Hope this helps
Steve Horner 
Steve Horner Music, Inc.
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From jeffrey@i-2000.com  Sun Nov 24 10:28:43 1996
From: jeffrey@i-2000.com
Message-ID: <32985CD2.623A@i-2000.com>


To: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>

Subject: Re: Les, Elson Adrian .. Thanks (Re: Two Keyboards ..)
References: <199611240039.TAA29751@j51.com>




Greg Stritmater wrote:
> 
>         You guys are the best! :) I'm very happy to hear this. I was
> really hoping that I'd be able to use the QS8 in this way, and now I want
> the damn synth even more! :) Hopefully, in a few weeks, I'll not only
> have the money for it, but will have a store that actually HAS it. Now
> I'll have to get that little 61 key Fatar once I sell my old synth.
> Greg

I dont know what a 61 key Fatar controller cost but I guess it $250+.  Unless you were going to use alot of 
its controller features which Im guessing you probably wont since the QS-8 will be your main controller , I 
would go buy a used analog synth that will alow you to select what midi channel it sends on and has a velocity 
sensitive kewyboard (i.e. Sequential Multi Track, ROland JX-8P, Akai AX-80, etc) which all seem to sell for 
$250 -$350) and you can still use it as a controller plus you get another sound source.  Just my two cents.  
Enjoy the QS8!  

Jeff
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From vergil@midusa.net  Sun Nov 24 11:56:00 1996
Message-ID: <32988065.6733@midusa.net>
From: Chris <vergil@midusa.net>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)

To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7 Saga - The Legend Continues




I wanted to take a bit of bandwidth here to thank all the QS7 owners who
took the time to answer my previous email to the list, and to the people
at Alesis who took the time to write and get an update on the situation.
I was convinced, and have decided to give it one more try.

Hopefully, you will all have the opportunity to see the results of the
project I am using this for around march. Let's hope I can get this
working in three months time.

Thanks again,
Christopher Wall
vergil@midusa.net
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Sun Nov 24 18:14:46 1996
message-id: <bcbaajfh@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Rich <progmon@EDEN.COM>, Adrian Wagner <pulp19@MAGG.NET>

Subject: Re[2]: Soundbridge






<<My experience is that it does not work with Unisyn.  Instead, try
Freeloader, the utility Alesis made.>>

He's right.  SoundBridge wants to see sysex unadulterated with the trappings of 
a program (like Unisyn).  Freeloader will definitely solve the problem.
dB
Alesis

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From 75024.2471@CompuServe.COM  Sun Nov 24 21:04:00 1996
From: Mark & Renee <75024.2471@CompuServe.COM>
To: All <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: PCMCIA cards
Message-ID: <961125020102_75024.2471_GHJ92-2@CompuServe.COM>





Can anyone tell me where and if I can purchase "generic" PCMCIA cards for my
QS7. It was suggested by my dealer that I could pay a lot less if I stayed away
from "Alesis brand". I am a recent (and quite novice) purchaser, who would
appreciate the elemental help I'll need! Also, what specifically do I ask for
when searching for these cards.

	Thanks for your help.

	Mark Novak

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sun Nov 24 21:46:30 1996
Message-Id: <199611250246.VAA19372@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: PCMCIA cards





On 24 Nov 96 at 21:04, Mark & Renee wrote:

> Can anyone tell me where and if I can purchase "generic" PCMCIA cards for my
> QS7. It was suggested by my dealer that I could pay a lot less if I stayed
> away from "Alesis brand". I am a recent (and quite novice) purchaser, who
> would appreciate the elemental help I'll need! Also, what specifically do I
> ask for when searching for these cards.

You can find all the info you need on the QuadraSynth web page. Check out 
the Flash Card FAQ at :

                     http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_crd.htm

Les
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From lpf004@email.mot.com  Mon Nov 25 09:40:44 1996
Message-Id: <32996374.1311@email.mot.com>
From: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: swishing noise
X-Url: http://www.isg.mot.com/




Can anybody tell me,

I notice that when s4+ is turned on but not playing music that there 
is some background noise. It sounds like it's coming from the effects 
processor because it changes somewhat when I switch from program to 
program. The odd thing about it is that it doesn't seem to be affected 
by the volume knob. No matter what volume I set the machine to, the 
hiss/noise is at a constant volume. 

Is this normal or is my unit defective??

If it is normal, will it be noticable on high quality recordings like 
dat or cd? 

Thanks,   
Paul Fazzina     lpf004@email.mot.com
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From composer@ix.netcom.com  Mon Nov 25 10:11:21 1996
Message-ID: <3299B615.7572@ix.netcom.com>
From: Steve Horner <composer@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: composer@ix.netcom.com
Organization: Steve Horner Music, Inc.
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>

Subject: Re: swishing noise
References: <32996374.1311@email.mot.com>




Paul Fazzina wrote:
> 
> Can anybody tell me,
> 
> I notice that when s4+ is turned on but not playing music that there
> is some background noise. It sounds like it's coming from the effects
> processor because it changes somewhat when I switch from program to
> program. 
Paul,
I have the same thing on my QS7. I"m pretty sure that it has to do with
the effects. It's quite low on the QS7 but I would still like to find a
way to disable the FX section entirely. Maybe someone at alesis could
tackle this one.
Steve Horner
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From jwinch@login.net  Mon Nov 25 10:33:38 1996
Message-Id: <199611251532.KAA24425@mtl0.login.net>
From: "Jesse Winchester" <jwinch@login.net>
To: <composer@ix.netcom.com>, "Paul Fazzina" <lpf004@email.mot.com>

Subject: Re: swishing noise








The S4+ has 4 outputs: the L/R Main outs carry the effects, the AUX outs
don't. There are other, more tedious, ways to do it, i.e. setting the
effect mix returns to dry.
Jesse

----------
> From: Steve Horner <composer@ix.netcom.com>
> To: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
> 
> Subject: Re: swishing noise
> Date: Monday, November 25, 1996 10:11 AM
> 
> Paul Fazzina wrote:
> > 
> > Can anybody tell me,
> > 
> > I notice that when s4+ is turned on but not playing music that there
> > is some background noise. It sounds like it's coming from the effects
> > processor because it changes somewhat when I switch from program to
> > program. 
> Paul,
> I have the same thing on my QS7. I"m pretty sure that it has to do with
> the effects. It's quite low on the QS7 but I would still like to find a
> way to disable the FX section entirely. Maybe someone at alesis could
> tackle this one.
> Steve Horner
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
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From Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU  Mon Nov 25 12:06:03 1996
From: Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU
Message-Id: <199611251706.KAA23365@stripe.Colorado.EDU>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: some QS7 stuff
X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.2a 





Finally got some time to play with/audition sounds on my new QS7 this past
weekend.  I noticed several things that I'm wondering about.  

I've seen others ask about the first 2 but haven't seen much response so
have included in this post.  Items 3 & 4 are things I haven't seen
mentioned anywhere else.  Reason for posting is to find out if this is
this only my experience (and a couple of others) or are other QS7 owners
experiencing same?

1) the notching (or might describe as clicking) of control sliders A-D in
some programs (and maybe mixes).  i.e. moving the fader while notes are
being held does not produce an even/smooth fade, it is a clicking or
notched (stepped) fade.

2) the posting this morning about what I'll call noisy output (previous
poster described it as whirring).

3) I'm comparing this to a KorgX3 and the output level on the Alesis is
about 1/3 of what's coming out of the Korg.  Typical of Alesis compared to
others?  It's to the point that to record output from the QS7 I have to
almost max the record level on the tape deck.

4) auditioned bank4(gen mid) 046 (harp) and noticed that the sound
produced by some notes in that program sometimes start with a noticeable
click (like a closing a switch?).  Has anyone else heard this?  It was
most reliably present above middle C, when velocity was fairly high and
when it was not the first note in a 'string' of notes (e.g. play 5-6 notes
in quick succesion and by second or third it's virtually predictable).

Am eager to get QE2 up and begin experimenting but until I do am wondering
if there are any string programming gurus out there that would share any
tips on 'programming' string sounds.  Am thinking about string ensemble or
section programs and am most interested in getting rid of the initial
attack that is so strong.  My Korg has some quite nice strings but it's
going away soon.

Thanks to all for a great list and especially to Les for maintaining a
terrific/useful web site.

---
Gary Reedy				Gary.Reedy@Colorado.EDU
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From 75024.2471@CompuServe.COM  Mon Nov 25 13:26:05 1996
From: Mark & Renee <75024.2471@CompuServe.COM>
To: All <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Washington DC area users?
Message-ID: <961125182246_75024.2471_GHJ93-1@CompuServe.COM>





Is there any knowledgable QS7 user in the Washington DC area who would be
interested in guiding me through the basics of this machine? I am in need of a
tutorial and would be willing to pay for the help if needed in person. Thank you
so very much.

	(from Mark, keyboard novice!)


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Nov 25 14:36:08 1996
message-id: <aocbajde@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Steve Horner <composer@IX.NETCOM.COM>, Paul Fazzina <lpf004@EMAIL.MOT.COM>

Subject: Re[2]: swishing noise






<<> I notice that when s4+ is turned on but not playing music that there
> is some background noise. It sounds like it's coming from the effects
> processor because it changes somewhat when I switch from program to
> program.
Paul,
I have the same thing on my QS7. I"m pretty sure that it has to do with
the effects. It's quite low on the QS7 but I would still like to find a
way to disable the FX section entirely. Maybe someone at alesis could
tackle this one.>>

Okay...some questions: Is this just on certain programs?  None of my units (QS+, 
QS6 and QS8) do this, and I've tried it with speakers and headphones...do you 
notice it in Mix mode?  Program mode?  Both?

dB
Alesis

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From james@innocon.com  Mon Nov 25 15:15:55 1996
From: "Michael D. James" <james@innocon.com>
Message-Id: <199611252005.PAA02203@krusty.innocon.com>
To: 75024.2471@CompuServe.COM

In-reply-to: Mark & Renee's message of Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:26:05 -0500 (EST) <961125182246_75024.2471_GHJ93-1@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Washington DC area users?
Reply-to: james@innocon.com

II



Mark,

I'm a Quadrasynth S4+ user in Arlington.  Not really an expert, but
I've put together my own programs and mixes without too much trouble.
I haven't played the QS7 yet, but I understand the architectures are
similar.  I'll probably have some free time this weekend (Thanksgiving
is often the most boring weekend of the year) if you want to get
together.  Don't even think about paying me -- I play with synths
because it's fun!

                  Michael (james@innocon.com)
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From HawkinM@solcorp.com  Mon Nov 25 15:47:50 1996
From: Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@solcorp.com>
To: "'Quadralist'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re[2]: swishing noise
Encoding: 16 TEXT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0
Message-Id: <96Nov25.144956est.21761@gateway.solcorp.com>





I've noticed this "swishing" noise on my QS6 but only with headphones at   
full or near full volume.

It's only really noticable with programs that use the leslie speaker   
effect and overdrive.  In fact if you hit the mod wheel with no notes   
sounding you can usually hear the "swishing" speeding up and down.

You'll probably also hear a slight "crack" noise when you change in and   
out of these programsas well.

I think these glitches were mentioned in the Electronic Musician review   
back in June.
   

Michael  
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From HawkinM@solcorp.com  Mon Nov 25 15:50:29 1996
From: Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@solcorp.com>
To: "'Quadralist'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Serial Interface Bug
Encoding: 6 TEXT
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Message-Id: <96Nov25.145258est.21762@gateway.solcorp.com>





Does anyone know whether the new upgrade to the QS6 operating system   
addresses the problem that controller "A" midi is not being sent over the   
PC interface.

Michael  
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From james@innocon.com  Mon Nov 25 15:52:00 1996
From: "Michael D. James" <james@innocon.com>
Message-Id: <199611252042.PAA02392@krusty.innocon.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
In-reply-to: "Michael D. James"'s message of Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:15:55 -0500 (EST) <199611252005.PAA02203@krusty.innocon.com>
Subject: Washington DC area users?
Reply-to: james@innocon.com





Ooops! Sorry to send that to the whole list!  I will now compound my
error by sending my apology to the whole list.  --mdj
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Nov 25 15:55:37 1996
message-id: <apdecnbd@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Gary.Reedy@COLORADO.EDU, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: some QS7 stuff






<< the notching (or might describe as clicking) of control sliders A-D in
some programs (and maybe mixes).  i.e. moving the fader while notes are
being held does not produce an even/smooth fade, it is a clicking or
notched (stepped) fade.>>

There are a few real-time functions that cause the fx processor to glitch...the 
trade-off would've been a less powerful fx unit (like the Midiverb 4 instead of 
the Q2 chip).  We opted for the much more powerful fx and the occasional zipper 
noise.  Mostly, it's on things like changing delay times...try to adjust the 
time when there's no signal going through it; or, try switching to a different 
sound routed to a different bus using a different delay at a different speed 
(you could set up a crossfade between two, three or even four sounds using the 
tracking generator, each with it's own delay time...).

<< auditioned bank4(gen mid) 046 (harp) and noticed that the sound
produced by some notes in that program sometimes start with a noticeable
click (like a closing a switch?).  Has anyone else heard this?  It was
most reliably present above middle C, when velocity was fairly high and
when it was not the first note in a 'string' of notes (e.g. play 5-6 notes
in quick succesion and by second or third it's virtually predictable).>>

You are correct.  Thanks for briniging it to my attention.  I notified the 
engineering.  Their response:
"We'll fix it in the next revision of software".
That's about the only way to fix it.  Erik (product manager) sez he's sorry...
dB
Alesis


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From levins@easyway.net  Mon Nov 25 16:17:16 1996
From: Adam and Christine Levin <levins@easyway.net>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: bank changes in midi files
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.961125161851.20252B-100000@irc.easyway.net>





Hey folks, I was checking my archive of mail from the list, but I didn't 
find this (though I'm pretty sure it was covered).  What controller 
messages do I need to send from a MIDI file to change banks on the QS8 
(QS7/6/whatever)?  Specifically, I'm using a Kurzweil K2000RS as my 
sequencer, but this should be for any sequencer. 

Thanks!
-Adam

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Nov 25 17:20:05 1996
message-id: <bbbdbfao@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Adam And Christine Levin <levins@EASYWAY.NET>,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: bank changes in midi files






<<What controller messages do I need to send from a MIDI file to change banks on 
the QS8 (QS7/6/whatever)?>>

CC#0, value 0 for user
CC#0, value 1-4 for the presets.
CC#0, value 5 (etc) for the first card bank (etc).

dB
Alesis

  

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Mon Nov 25 17:35:09 1996
message-id: <bbcdcnco@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@SOLCORP.COM>,
        "'Quadralist'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Serial Interface Bug






<<Does anyone know whether the new upgrade to the QS6 operating system
addresses the problem that controller "A" midi is not being sent over the
PC interface.>>
Totally fixed in version 2.00
dB
Alesis


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From janer@isy.liu.se  Mon Nov 25 17:41:58 1996
Message-ID: <329A1F71.5F30@isy.liu.se>
From: Jan Eriksson <janer@isy.liu.se>
Reply-To: janer@isy.liu.se
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: some QS7 stuff
References: <apdecnbd@alesis1.usa.com>




David Bryce wrote:

<<Noticed that the sound
> produced by some notes in that program sometimes start with a noticeable
> click (like a closing a switch?).  Has anyone else heard this?  It was
> most reliably present above middle C, when velocity was fairly high and
> when it was not the first note in a 'string' of notes (e.g. play 5-6 notes
> in quick succesion and by second or third it's virtually predictable).>>
> 
> You are correct.  Thanks for briniging it to my attention.  I notified the
> engineering.  Their response:
> "We'll fix it in the next revision of software".
> That's about the only way to fix it.  Erik (product manager) sez he's sorry...
> dB
> Alesis

I have some question to dB (or anyone else) on this matter:
What's the latest software version? My QS8 says v1.01. Is the software
user-upgradable or must it be done at a Alesis service center?

Thanks


Jan Eriksson

janer@isy.liu.se
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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Mon Nov 25 18:13:34 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Few QS8 questions...
To: Dave Bryce <dbryce@alesis1.usa.com>
Cc: Quadra-Synth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Message-id: <329A26EA.37B5@uwplatt.edu>

X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)




First of all, I just want to say that the more I play this thing, the
more I like it.  It was a little dissapointed by the velocity on the
piano, but that I got it tweaked the way I like it, I don't think
anything compares to the sound.  A few questions though.  I mainly use
this in my bedroom with a pair of small roland power monitors, model
MA-12.  I seem to get a good deal od ground-loop type noise when using
these speakers.  I am using good quality interconnects and both the
keyboard and the speakers on on the same outlet.  Anyone else had this
prob or know a quick solution?  BTW, I get no real noise when connected
to my home stereo, so I think it has something to do with the speakers,
but they work fine with my JV-35.

Anyone have experiace using mixes as templates?  I use both the main and
uax output odf this keyboard depending on how it is setup, and Dave
suggested that using a mix as a template is a good way to go about this.
I can't seem to find anything in the manual that explains how to do
this.  Maybe I am just missing something simple.

Related to this, is there a way to use the effects that are programmed
into PRG-USER-104 Hi-Pass Ctrl on another keyboard sound easily, I.E.
have a sound point to the effect on that patch?  This patch has an
amazing resonance like sound with the slider and it would be nice to
recreate over other sounds.

And lastly, has anyone out there experimented with different pedals with
this thing?  I know a lot of people use quitar type pedal on their
analoges, but I am wondering what kind of pedals compliment the already
built in effects.

Sorry if some of this has been covered in the past or if some of this
sounds stupid to others  :)

Lauren 

http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~buchholz
http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~buchholz/alesis.html    Another QS7/8 page
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From ksherm@satsoft.com  Mon Nov 25 19:23:57 1996
Message-Id: <199611260023.TAA14346@mail.his.com>
From: "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com>
To: "Lauren Buchholz" <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>,
        "Dave Bryce" <dbryce@alesis1.usa.com>
Cc: "Quadra-Synth List" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Few QS8 questions...




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>A few questions though.  I mainly use
> this in my bedroom with a pair of small roland power monitors, model
> MA-12.  I seem to get a good deal od ground-loop type noise when using
> these speakers.  I am using good quality interconnects and both the
> keyboard and the speakers on on the same outlet.  Anyone else had this
> prob or know a quick solution?  BTW, I get no real noise when connected
> to my home stereo, so I think it has something to do with the speakers,
> but they work fine with my JV-35.
> 

Try changing the polarity of one of the plugs. If that doen't work, run a
ground wire from the chassis of the QS8 to the Roland.

Ken Sherman
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From vergil@midusa.net  Mon Nov 25 20:44:20 1996
Message-ID: <329A4DB5.431B@midusa.net>
From: Chris <vergil@midusa.net>
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: some QS7 stuff
References: <apdecnbd@alesis1.usa.com> <329A1F71.5F30@isy.liu.se>




Jan Eriksson wrote:
> >
> > You are correct.  Thanks for briniging it to my attention.  I notified the
> > engineering.  Their response:
> > "We'll fix it in the next revision of software".
> > That's about the only way to fix it.  Erik (product manager) sez he's sorry...
> > dB
> > Alesis
> 
> I have some question to dB (or anyone else) on this matter:
> What's the latest software version? My QS8 says v1.01. Is the software
> user-upgradable or must it be done at a Alesis service center?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jan Eriksson
> 
> janer@isy.liu.se

Forgive the possible redundancy here (since I haven't read my QS7
manuals and haven't been reading the list here). I don't know if the
keyboard is "home upgradable" but a GREAT feature to add (if it isn't
already in there) would be a flash EEPROM that can take a ROM upgrade
through SysEx or the serial interface. Heck, going through the PCMCIA
slot would be better than popping the chip out and putting a new one in.
Of course, special software would have to be written etc etc. but that'd
make upgrading a snap!

Just my $.02,
Christopher Wall
vergil@midusa.net
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL  Tue Nov 26 04:03:23 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Re: On The Level
To: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.COM>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.COM
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.RUG.NL
Message-id: <AA526D0A23@rc96.rc.rug.nl>
Organization: Rekencentrum RUG







# Hi,
#
# If I use my s4+ in a simple mix mode where the program on each channel
# uses its own effects configuration, can I control the level of the
# effects on each channel separately from my midi sequence? If not, how
# about the overall effects level? I like a dryer sound but I don't want
# to eliminate effects completely. Any suggestions?

Hi Paul,

There is no "overall" effect level setting, each channel has it's own level.
Yes, it IS possible to change the levels, but this requires inserting SYSEX
commands in your sequence. I would have to look up the proper commands. Let
me know if you want me to do so.
However, I think it is wiser to set the effects on each channel to a level
you think you will use and save that mix setup in the user bank (or as
sysex file). If you like real-time control over the amount of effect sent,
you should program all channels to map eg modulation wheel to effect send
(program edit, modulation, source modwheel, dest effect send, then set a
modualtion level).

Hope this helps,

Paul
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From henrikba@gyda.hiof.no  Tue Nov 26 04:21:04 1996
From: Henrik Berg Aasnes <henrikba@gyda.hiof.no>
X-Sender: henrikba@gyda
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: QS6 Upgrade
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961126101444.2918A-100000@gyda>





Hub!

Where should I get the OS upgrade for my QS6?

From the store where I bought the synth, the norwegian distributor or
direct from Alesis(USA)?

Henrik

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. email: henrik.b.aasnes@hiof.no          .  Student at Ostfold College   .
. www  : http://www-ia.hiof.no/~henrikba  .     dept. of informatics      .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. The problem with computers is that there is not enough Africa in them.  . 
.                                                           - Brian Eno   .
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From P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl  Tue Nov 26 09:31:13 1996
From: Paul Swennenhuis <P.A.M.Swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl>
Organization:  Rekencentrum RUG
To: Michael Hawkin <HawkinM@solcorp.com>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject:       Re: Re[2]: swishing noise
Reply-to: p.a.m.swennenhuis@rc.rug.nl


Message-ID: <AFCF853B3F@rc96.rc.rug.nl>





# I've noticed this "swishing" noise on my QS6 but only with headphones at
# full or near full volume.
#
# It's only really noticable with programs that use the leslie speaker
# effect and overdrive.  In fact if you hit the mod wheel with no notes
# sounding you can usually hear the "swishing" speeding up and down.

Try using as "heavy" flange effect and route modulator 1 from modwheel to
pitch speed...
It clicks continuously...

Paul
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From edwbal@dream.vol.net.mt  Tue Nov 26 22:43:42 1996
Message-Id: <329C3848.27E6@dream.vol.net.mt>
From: Edwin Balzan <edwbal@dream.vol.net.mt>
Organization: Spider Music Productions
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I)

To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: S4 upgrade




Hi to everyone in the list.

I am willing to buy an S4 upgrade kit if there are still any
lying around.

Regards,
Edwin Balzan
*********************************************************
Spider Music Productions tel/fax (00356)650645.
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5348/index.html
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From quinone@nol.net  Tue Nov 26 23:03:11 1996
Message-Id: <199611270403.WAA04463@nol.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: quinone@nol.net (Quinone)
Subject: new choir program 



        In recent attempts to further augment the great capabilities of the
QS, I decided to make some additional choir programs.  No, not moare aahs,
ooohs, and whatever else but ones with letter beginnings like ma, mu, ta,
re, so, etc.  So far the method for most efficiently doing this has resulted
in the following: using the flash rom capabilites of the QS, burning
sepereate sounds for each of the different prefixes (t, m, s); then in one
program I use one of these sounds as one of the four in a program; the other
three are devoted to the vowel sounds (like the aahs, oohs, uuuhs, etc.)
with a slight delay after the prefix.  Well, so far it sounds ok, but  it
somewhat seems to jump in mere sound quality - hard to describe because it
isn't as sipmle as amplitude control.  
        So, my question (sorry it took so long) is if there is anyway
someone can think of a better program config ,becuase as it is I can only
have 3 vowel ranges per prefix, and if there is anway that I could create a
pseudo cross-fade so the transition between the vowel and prefix wouldn't
seem so sudden.  Thanks in advance for any help, and wish to commend those
avid posters on a job well done.

        Thanks again,

                Eric Zavesky

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From pbadcock@cochlear.com.au  Wed Nov 27 00:33:24 1996
From: pbadcock@cochlear.com.au
Message-Id: <9610278490.AA849076569@cplmail.ozemail.com.au>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com, Edwin Balzan <edwbal@dream.vol.net.mt>
Subject: Re: S4 upgrade





I'm pretty sure you're a couple of months too lats Edwin :(

regards
Peter


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Subject: S4 upgrade
Author:  Edwin Balzan <edwbal@dream.vol.net.mt> at INTERNET
Date:    11/27/96 3:12 PM


Hi to everyone in the list.

I am willing to buy an S4 upgrade kit if there are still any 
lying around.

Regards,
Edwin Balzan
********************************************************* 
Spider Music Productions tel/fax (00356)650645. 
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5348/index.html 
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From cheezie@pacific.net.sg  Wed Nov 27 09:34:02 1996
Message-ID: <329C519F.592E@pacific.net.sg>
From: Cheez <cheezie@pacific.net.sg>
Reply-To: cheezie@pacific.net.sg
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS6 sounds to wav files
References: <329BDED5.668A@pacific.net.sg>




Cheez wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how I can 'record' some of the sounds from my QS6 into
> PC wav files? I only need about 2 to 3 seconds of a sound so that I can
> use them as effects in a multimedia presentation. I'm thinking along the
> lines of recording short passages of an audio CD direct from the PC's
> CD-ROM.
> 
> Also, I messed up one particular sound on my QS6. Namely, under Mix
> Mode, Bank User No. 000 - Quadra Hit. Does anyone know how I can restore
> the original sound? I've tried reinitialising the QS6 but I guess I have
> unknowingly change some of the parameters for this sound.
> 
> Any form of advice would be appreciated. Thank you all in advance.

Note: Re-sending this message because I sent to wrong address. Thanks
Les.
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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Wed Nov 27 10:09:34 1996
Message-Id: <199611271509.KAA02922@ws1.nkf.com>
X-Sender: wbaker@ws1.nkf.com



To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
From: William Baker <wbaker@nkf.com>
Subject: Re: new choir program 



>Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:32:34 -0500
>To: quinone@nol.net (Quinone)
>From: William Baker <wbaker@ws1.nkf.com>
>Subject: Re: new choir program 
>
>At 11:03 PM 11/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>        In recent attempts to further augment the great capabilities of the
>>QS, I decided to make some additional choir programs.  No, not moare aahs,
>>ooohs, and whatever else but ones with letter beginnings like ma, mu, ta,
>>re, so, etc.  So far the method for most efficiently doing this has resulted
>>in the following: using the flash rom capabilites of the QS, burning
>>sepereate sounds for each of the different prefixes (t, m, s); then in one
>>program I use one of these sounds as one of the four in a program; the other
>>three are devoted to the vowel sounds (like the aahs, oohs, uuuhs, etc.)
>>with a slight delay after the prefix.  Well, so far it sounds ok, but  it
>>somewhat seems to jump in mere sound quality - hard to describe because it
>>isn't as sipmle as amplitude control.  
>>        So, my question (sorry it took so long) is if there is anyway
>>someone can think of a better program config ,becuase as it is I can only
>>have 3 vowel ranges per prefix, and if there is anway that I could create a
>>pseudo cross-fade so the transition between the vowel and prefix wouldn't
>>seem so sudden.  Thanks in advance for any help, and wish to commend those
>>avid posters on a job well done.
>>
>>        Thanks again,
>>
>>                Eric Zavesky
>>
>>__________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________________________
>>
>>
>Eric,
>
>You may want to check out a Roland D-50 if you or one of your freinds has
one lying around.  The soundbuilding method you describe is suspiciously
akin to Roland's Linear Algorythm [LA] method.  As an example, they used a
"spit" transient to give the characteristic attack sound to their brass
instruments.  I beleive your problem may arise from the differences between
the attack times of the plossive consonants "t, s, p" etc. and the follow-on
vowel sound.  You have to take into consideration that the breath is stopped
and released with the "shaping information" provided by the lips and tongue
at near full volume.  Think square wave rather than sine.
>
>As far as specifics go you may want to shorten the attack time and raise
the initial volume levels on the vowel "ah" sound as much as possible -
perhaps the envelopes for one of the marcatto strings would be an
appropriate model to start on.  Also, rather than layering your sounds
serially, try starting them simultaneously, the consonant transient should
(may) be strong enough to fool your ear into integrating the sound into a
single whole.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Bill Baker
>

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Nov 27 10:30:33 1996
message-id: <akbldafd@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Henrik Berg Aasnes <henrikba@GYDA.HIOF.NO>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS6 Upgrade






<<Where should I get the OS upgrade for my QS6?

From the store where I bought the synth, the norwegian distributor or
direct from Alesis(USA)?>>

Any of these should do...whichever you're the most comfortable with.
dB
Alesis


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From Daniel.Bailey@MCI.Com  Wed Nov 27 11:18:13 1996
From: "Daniel Bailey" <Daniel.Bailey@MCI.Com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: FS: Alesis S4 Rack Mount Synthesizer $340
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Message-ID: <19961127161735.AAB2084@localHost>





Alesis S4 Rack Mount Synthesizer $340 + shipping

64 note polyphonic, Digital effects, 16 Mb sample ROM, PCMCIA
expansion slot, dual audio output, ADAT interface, large backlit
display

Daniel Bailey 719 535-4970
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From christmann@pcbuoa.ENET.dec.com  Wed Nov 27 13:37:02 1996
From: christmann@pcbuoa.ENET.dec.com
Message-Id: <9611271827.AA04088@us4rmc.pko.dec.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Apparently-To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Sound On Sound review





Greetings from a Korg X5 owner lurking in your midst, contemplating a QS7/8
as his next keyboard.

The November issue of Sound On Sound has a review of the QS8.  My first 
read through it left me with the impression that the reviewer thought the
synth was nothing special, and so I reread it more carefully to understand
why the review struck me the way it did.  My conclusion is that the
reviewer doesn't like sample playback synths in general, and that the very
first things I happened to read were negative, coloring my initial read. 

First, the bad attitude quotes:

"Yet another high-specification S+S (Sample plus Synthesis) synthesizer"

"But as I've said before, the problem with S+S synths is that they often 
can't allow you to make any meaningful edits to their raw samples - they 
just replay them."
 

Now the many good quotes:

"Despite the small size of the display, it all works very well.  You can 
change between modes and pages very quickly and easily"

"Some very classy sounds"

"a better effects processor than much of the competition."

"The QS8's synthesis technique has good sample resources, limited sample 
processing and a fixed resonance filter, but good modulation facilities"

about the keyboard "I rather like the feel of this one."

"The QS8 had one of the nicer-sounding sets of instrumental GM sounds I've 
heard yet, with a smoothness that you don't often get from the pervading GM 
gritty blandness"

"The non-GM sounds are more immediately impressive.  They have the crystal 
clear, bright quality that is associated with high-quality effects where no 
corners have been cut to save costs."

"With 64-note polyphony and four layers to play with, the sounds are just 
as complex, detailed and expensive sounding as you might expect"

End of quotes.

So, all things considered, a favorable review, but the author didn't
help the reader come to an easy conclusion.  I wish the writer had been more 
specific comparing the synth to it's competition, or even named some 
competitive synths.  No mention of specific sample categories - did he 
like the pianos, organs, synths, etc?  Good bang for the buck?  

Mark Christmann    

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From timdavis@megadisq.com  Wed Nov 27 14:39:22 1996
Message-Id: <199611271936.NAA28758@ultra.qni.com>
From: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
To: "Quadrasynth List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Cand I do this?








Hey,

Can I store standard Midi files on the flash ram card for my QS6. Can these
files be played directly from the card without a computer present?

Tim Davis
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From akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr  Thu Nov 28 03:56:17 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: Thanos Kastritis <akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr>
Subject: Velopiano and Soundbridge



Hi,

On a reply to Guilermo Rosado some time ago, David Bryce said that
there is no way to program the phantom sample "Velopiano" on the QS+.
I am not a user of Soundbridge myself, but I was wondering if it
would be possible to burn that sample in to a card for use with a
Quadrasynth Plus.
I do not know if virtual samples created on sb can access the on
board ROM, but if they do, could it be possible for Alesis to offer
a description of Velopiano that would help recreate it for the Plus?
Myself I am the owner of a Quadrasynth, but I am interested in the
Plus, so I am curious on wether this can be achieved.

Thanks,

Thanos Kastritis

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From cheezie@pacific.net.sg  Thu Nov 28 08:04:30 1996
Message-ID: <329D8E1C.6441@pacific.net.sg>
From: Cheez <cheezie@pacific.net.sg>
Reply-To: cheezie@pacific.net.sg
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Different names on QS6




Sorry to bother but really need some help here.
I messed up the sound (Quadra-Hit) on my QS6's Mix Bank, User 00.
Would like to get it back and thought I could use Freeloader and the
relevant *.syx file on the CD-ROM to dump it back onto the QS6.
But I just discovered that all the names of sound listed on (1) the
cards that come with the manual and (2) the *.txt files on the CD-ROM,
are different from what I have on my QS6's display.
For example, under the Mix-User bank, 00 is 'Quadra-Hit' on my QS6 but
'Multitmbrl' in the manual, Sound No. 01 is 'Grand&Strg' on my display
but 'Pno&Strngs' in the manual. This is also the same in the Prog-User
bank. My questions are:

(1) Do I have different sounds from the rest of you QS6 owners?
(2) If I dump the relevant *.syx file onto my QS6's user banks, will I
have a change of sound names and sounds?

For any help, I thank you in advance.
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Thu Nov 28 13:21:43 1996
Message-ID: <329DD978.7557@mail.magg.net>
From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Different names on QS6
References: <329D8E1C.6441@pacific.net.sg>




Dear Cheez...
	Unless you have done a great deal of programing on your QS6, which I
assume you have not, downloading the sysx bank, will 'make' all user
bank voices/samples... everythiung, just like they were when you got the
keyboard.
   but hey, while things are still a bit funked out of place, why not
have some fun and mess around even more.
Keyboards are not like cars....    they can never be broken by
rearanging things.
good luck.
Adrian.
"http://landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
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From elson@westworld.com  Thu Nov 28 15:26:54 1996
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To: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
Subject: Re: Different names on QS6



At 01.21 PM 11/28/96 -0500, Adrian Wagner wrote:
 
>Keyboards are not like cars....    they can never be broken by
>rearanging things.

Yeah, and also you don't have to worry about tune-ups, oil, maintenance, and
you only have to change the battery every 10 years or so. :)

Elson
Hammond B3s, on the other hand, are very much like cars...


 
                                     -30-
========================================== 
Elson Trinidad

Los Angeles, CA, USA                                                     
elson@westworld.com * http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
==========================================

 

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Nov 29 15:59:57 1996
message-id: <baacbpfe@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: David Bryce <dbryce@alesis1.usa.com>,
        Henrik Berg Aasnes <henrikba@GYDA.HIOF.NO>,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: QS6 Upgrade






<<<<Where should I get the OS upgrade for my QS6?

From the store where I bought the synth, the norwegian distributor or
direct from Alesis(USA)?>>

Any of these should do...whichever you're the most comfortable with.>>

I must amend this...it seems that you have to do the upgrade through your own 
distributor/store, not through Alesis USA.  Sorry about the confusion.

dB


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Nov 29 16:00:02 1996
message-id: <baadagbh@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Thanos Kastritis <akastr@LEON.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>,
        quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Velopiano and Soundbridge






<<On a reply to Guilermo Rosado some time ago, David Bryce said that
there is no way to program the phantom sample "Velopiano" on the QS+.
I am not a user of Soundbridge myself, but I was wondering if it
would be possible to burn that sample in to a card for use with a
Quadrasynth Plus.>>

I don't know...I'll ask.

dB
Alesis




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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Nov 29 16:25:03 1996
message-id: <babmafdf@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@MEGADISQ.COM>,
        Quadrasynth List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Cand I do this?






<<Can I store standard Midi files on the flash ram card for my QS6. Can these
files be played directly from the card without a computer present?>>

Yes and yes...you need the latest version of QS6 software.  Call 1 (800) 5-
ALESIS to find out if you're current and how to upgrade if you're not...odds are 
outstanding that you'll need to upgrade - the latest revision was released 
fairly recently.  Also, you need the latest version of SoundBridge...download it 
at:
www.mok.com/bridge

dB
Alesis


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ease send a
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From bmarine@acadia.net  Sun Dec  1 12:37:03 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: Brian Marine <bmarine@acadia.net>
Subject: A little help



I'm new to this list and I am thinking about purchasing a QS7 or QS8. I have
some questions I was hoping someone might be able to help me with.

1) Do I understand correctly that using Sound Bridge and a blank PCMIA  card
that I can download samples and play them back on the QS7 or 8?

2) If so, and I want to use any of the sample CD's I see being marketed,
what format CD-ROM can I use (Sample Cell, Akai, Roland), or can I use any?
And can I use an audio CD instead of the CD-ROM (they're ususally much
cheaper)? I've never worked with sampling before so I'm unfamiliar with this
area.

3) Is it also correct that I can record my own sounds (say a sound effect on
to Cakewalk Pro Audio) and the download them on to the blank card?

Thanks in advance - sorry if this covering old ground for you guys.

Brian Marine
bmarine@acadia.net

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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Mon Dec  2 11:04:28 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: William Baker <wbaker@nkf.com>
Subject: Kudos



Dear Fellow Q-Listers

I'd like to extend my thanks to the Alesis-folks who monitor this list -
particularly to the ubiquitous "dB", David Bryce, and to J. (John?) Sarappo
in the service department.  Recently, I e-mailed dB with a problem my local
store was having getting some tech info from Alesis over the phone to do a
repair on my S4+.  dB routed the note to JS and he responded immediately,
not only to me, but also to my local repair guy, judging from the action on
that end as well.  They were both pleasant, concerned and most importantly,
*responsive* to my questions.

I've played keys for a lot of years, and patronized manufacturers from
Fender and Honner through the zaibutsu biggies (korg, roland, yamaha).  Ive
laid out my cash for musical hardware to tune of some $20K over the years,
and with all those manufacturers, and all that money, over all that time,
I've had problems and questions to which I'd have loved to get quick and
simple answers.  I can't begin tell you the last time I got a response like
this - because in my 20 years experience IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

Thanks again guys.

BB

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From nelson@zso.dec.com  Mon Dec  2 12:44:44 1996
Message-Id: <c=US%a=_%p=Digital%l=NTMAIL2-961202173548Z-7237@ntmail4.zso.dec.com>
From: Eric Nelson <nelson@zso.dec.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: A good mixer/recorder (DAT?)
X-Mailer:  Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5
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I haven't really scoped this out yet, but I'm trying to figure out a way
to record some demo sequences from my QS+ and BassStation...

Is it possible to get some kind of decent mixer/recorder (DAT?) for
under/around $300 ??

Thanks,
Eric
>
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From rcrane@zerby.com  Mon Dec  2 21:42:28 1996
From: Ray Crane <rcrane@zerby.com>
Message-Id: <199612030242.VAA07556@dot.netrex.net>
Subject: Hello?
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
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 Is this list active? I don't as of yet own a QS, but I'm planning
 on picking up the QS6 soon...

/Ray
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From pbadcock@cochlear.com.au  Mon Dec  2 22:45:22 1996
From: pbadcock@cochlear.com.au
Message-Id: <9611038495.AA849588384@cplmail.ozemail.com.au>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com, Ray Crane <rcrane@zerby.com>
Subject: Re: Hello?





It sure is Ray, stay tuned for more postings.  I usually receive about 
5-10 per day
regards
Peter



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Subject: Hello?
Author:  Ray Crane <rcrane@zerby.com> at INTERNET
Date:    12/3/96 1:54 PM


 Is this list active? I don't as of yet own a QS, but I'm planning 
 on picking up the QS6 soon...

/Ray
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From nivek@pcez.com  Tue Dec  3 05:19:35 1996
Message-ID: <32A40889.1764@pcez.com>
From: Chris Robin <nivek@pcez.com>


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Quick question for QS+ gurus...
References: <9611038495.AA849588384@cplmail.ozemail.com.au>




I realize the QS+ has very limited filters, but was wondering if anyone 
out there had any luck getting a nice fat filter sweep synth routed to 
the mod wheel, kinda like the "bass x" sound on the QS8 if I remember 
right.

If you've done it... could you tell me briefly how to do it through the 
modulation matrix?

Or, am I better off purchasing and external filter device?  I heard of 
something by Peavey...??

MUST HAVE FILTER SWEEP.
-Chris
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From timdavis@megadisq.com  Tue Dec  3 09:23:40 1996
Message-Id: <199612031421.IAA10348@ultra.qni.com>
From: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
To: "Quadrasynth List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: How about this?








Hi,

I have a Flash RAM card.

I guess I can't dump my user bank directly from my QS6 to my Flash card?

When using SoundBridge it appears that I can only store one Program bank on
my Flash card? I had hoped to be able to stor 4 - 8. It is an 8 meg card
afterall.

I have contacted Alesis about the Eprom upgrade kit for the QS6 and was
told that the kit is not currently available for shipping. They said it
could be a few weeks. Has anyone else heard differently?

Thanks

Tim Davis
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From lpf004@email.mot.com  Tue Dec  3 10:26:49 1996
Message-Id: <32A4004C.5180@email.mot.com>
From: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: effects configurations
X-Url: http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_main.htm




Hi,

Does anybody have a list that tells what effect configurations (what 
the settings are, levels, etc.) are present on each of the programs 
(1-127) for each of the banks (1,2,3,4 and 0) in the s4+?

Thanks in advance,
Paul Fazzina  lpf004@email.mot.com
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From RogersJ@tpd.eds.com  Tue Dec  3 11:17:36 1996
From: Rogers_Jared <RogersJ@tpd.eds.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: RE: A good mixer/recorder (DAT?)
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The cheapest you'll probably find a DAT machine is around $650 or so for a 
Sony DTC-590. However, I'd STRONGLY recommend the Tascam DA-20 because of its 
professional-quality transports and it's SCMS-FREE recording. You can pick 
one up for less than $800. Also, Fostex sells the same unit with the Fostex 
name. I think the model is D5 or something.

Jared
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From timdavis@megadisq.com  Tue Dec  3 11:40:01 1996
Message-Id: <199612031637.KAA24507@ultra.qni.com>
From: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
To: "Quadrasynth List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: QS6 Eprom Status








Hey,

I just talked to Gary Banner in the parts department at Alesis.

He said the Eprom upgrade kit was still not shipping and that it would be
"another month or so" before it would start shipping. He said the holdup
was the soundbridge diskettes. I said I already had the latest soundbridge
release and could he send me the eprom upgrade without the diskette. He
said no.

So, If any of you are as anxious as I am to get this thing, you're going to
have to be patient.

Tim Davis
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From jeffrey@i-2000.com  Tue Dec  3 19:28:57 1996
From: jeffrey@i-2000.com
Message-ID: <32A47066.499D@i-2000.com>


To: Chris Robin <nivek@pcez.com>

Subject: Re: Quick question for QS+ gurus...
References: <9611038495.AA849588384@cplmail.ozemail.com.au> <32A40889.1764@pcez.com>




Chris Robin wrote:
> 
> I realize the QS+ has very limited filters, but was wondering if anyone
> out there had any luck getting a nice fat filter sweep synth routed to
> the mod wheel, kinda like the "bass x" sound on the QS8 if I remember
> right.

I dont know what bass x sounds like but with my S4 I learned the hard way that the best way to get a good 
filter sweep is to use a synth with an analog VCF with good old resonance.  I've tried a few tricks on my S4 
as folllows but all didn't produce what I was looking for.

1  use a different filtered sawtooth wave in each of the oscillators (1-4) and make the brighttest saw plays 
the loudest at the beginning and have it slowly die out while osc #4 with the least brightest saw plays the 
quietest at the beginning and the loudest of all four at the end.  Results were meadiocre

2.  Use the saw on one osc and a waveform that already has resonance on it on another and you get an 
interesting effect but its not the classic sweep.

3.  Also you can use the effects eq to reduce some of the high frequencies but its going to be more like a 
parametric sweep than the classic filter sweep and you'll have to do this in real time (I think) use  a 
controller to control the +/- of the medium / high frequencies.

Id love to hear what other techniques people have used but I am afraid it isn't possible with the Alesis 
synths.

I really likeAlesis synths and that they load you up with lots waveforms in rom but please put some resonating 
filters in the next models. 

> 
> If you've done it... could you tell me briefly how to do it through the
> modulation matrix?
> 
> Or, am I better off purchasing and external filter device?  I heard of
> something by Peavey...??

As for the Peavy filter. I don't know much about it but I think it runs about $250-$300 and at that price you 
could buy a used analog (DCO based) like a JX8P, Multitrack, AX80, or DW8000.

If anyone else has a good method to emulate filter sweeps I would be really interested to hearing the 
approach.

Jeff

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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Tue Dec  3 21:37:52 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Alesis's Website
To: Quadra-Synth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Message-id: <32A4E282.3B3D@uwplatt.edu>

X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)




I don't think I have seen this advertised yet, but I think I found their
official website.  My DNS servers does not seem able to find it, but you
can get to it at

http://204.250.55.183/

Not everything is working yet, so that is probably why they havn't
advertised it, but they did do some cool stuff with it...
check it out!

Lauren Buchholz
http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~buchholz
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Wed Dec  4 00:06:10 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Re: Alesis's Website



Dunno if this is public info yet, but Alesis finally managed to wrangle the
domain name "alesis.com" from whoever had it before.  This was from Dave
Bryce's own mouth.  He told me to expect something there soon.

On another subject, you're not going to get a GREAT controllable filter
sweep simulation out of an Alesis synth, I don't think.  But c'est la vie of
sample-playback machines.  They have their strengths and their weaknesses,
right?

Derek

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Dec  4 01:35:13 1996
message-id: <abcdboap@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: jeffrey@I-2000.COM, Chris Robin <nivek@PCEZ.COM>

Subject: Re[2]: Quick question for QS+ gurus...






Chris Robin wrote:
>
> I realize the QS+ has very limited filters, but was wondering if anyone
> out there had any luck getting a nice fat filter sweep synth routed to
> the mod wheel, kinda like the "bass x" sound on the QS8 if I remember
> right.

Okay, here's a few ways to do it.

With the Effects processor:

1) Select the wave you want, then turn the output to off (level menu) for that 
sound (or sounds).

2) Turn the effects send level to 99 (100% wet signal - also level menu)

3) In the effects editor, go to the pitch page and select either an inverse 
flanger or the resonator. Edit tuning on resonator and depth on flanger to 
taste.

4) Go to the Mod section of the effects editor, route input to the MW, output to 
P1 level, level to 99

5) Still in the effects editor, go to the Mix page , and set Pitch level 
according to your taste (I recommend 10 - 20)

That will produce a nice effect...zippers a bit, though...


This one is better - and harder.

Using the Tracking Generator:

1) select four different resonant waveforms - lowest resonance on sound 1, 
highest on sound 4.

2) Go to AMP/RANGE page.  Set velocity level to [minimum] on each sound.

3) Go to Tracking generator.  Set input to be ModWheel on each sound.

4) This is where this gets tricky.  On Sound 1, set the first point to 100, 
second point to 58, third point to 30, fourth point to 10, and the rest to 0

5)  On sound 2 set the first point to 35, second to 65, third to 100, fourth to 
68, fifth to 32, sixth to 9, and the rest to 0.

6)  On sound three, set the first two points to 0, the third to 10, the fourth 
to 42, the fifth to 77, the sixth to 100, the seventh to 68, the eighth to 35,  
the ninth to 10, the 10th to 0.

7) On sound 4, set the first five points to 0, then ramp the remaining points so 
that the last one is 100.

The above values can vary according to taste.

7)   Find one of the six Mod matrixes not being used (small case letters in the 
descriptions, and level values of 0 indicate this).
For each sound, set inout to tracking generatoer, output to amplitude, and level 
to 99.

Good luck.  Hope this helps.

dB
Alesis

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Dec  4 01:35:13 1996
message-id: <abcdbpdk@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@UWPLATT.EDU>,
        Quadra-Synth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Alesis's Website






<<I don't think I have seen this advertised yet, but I think I found their
official website.  My DNS servers does not seem able to find it, but you
can get to it at
http://204.250.55.183/
Not everything is working yet, so that is probably why they havn't
advertised it, but they did do some cool stuff with it...
check it out!>>

Nope.  It is numeric, but that's not it...there are a bunch of versions of it 
around, but on the real one, everything works.  Also, there are versions that 
were done by people who were bidding on it (Les found one of those).  Sorry I 
can't tell you where it is.  Please be assured we'll let you know when it's 
ready.

dB


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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Wed Dec  4 01:40:05 1996
message-id: <abciaoam@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Velopiano






Regarding the possibility of VeloPiano phantom for QS+:
Engineering sez no way to access sample ROM on S9...velopiano sample not 
possible on QS+'s internal ROM.
Sorry...
dB
Alesis

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From akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr  Wed Dec  4 09:35:09 1996
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961204143509.00693370@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: Thanos Kastritis <akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr>
Subject: Re: Velopiano <+> SB and internal ROM in general.


At 01:40 =F0=EC 4/12/1996 -0500, David Bryce wrote:
>Regarding the possibility of VeloPiano phantom for QS+:
>Engineering sez no way to access sample ROM on S9...velopiano sample not=20
>possible on QS+'s internal ROM.
>Sorry...
>dB
>Alesis

Which also means that all of that vast 24MB ROM is out of reach to users.
Does this also apply to the QS6,7,8?
If so, it's a shame...
I mean, all these wonderfull samples, out of reach?
Isn't there anyone else out there who at some point thought to himself:
"I would have maped this diferently"?

Couldn't an O.S. upgrade fix this?

Anyway,
Thanks David!

Thanos

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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec  4 12:24:55 1996
Message-ID: <32A5DDA6.2ED9@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Need a case for my QS+




Hi, all.  I use my QS+ for extensive live gigging (3-5 nights/week). 
The case I've been using is on its last legs, after 11 years.

I've heard about some lightweight rigid-foam cases that are supposed to
be great, but literally noone in Cincinnati stocks them.  They can order
them, but I hate to order something I've never seen or touched.

Does anyone have a case for their QS+ that they would recommend?  The 2
brands I've heard of are Modern Case and Pro-Tech.

Any help is appreciated!!!
-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/~mitchb2/
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From alee@gers.com  Wed Dec  4 13:23:42 1996
Message-Id: <MAPI.Id.0016.00736c20202020204244464230303034@MAPI.to.RFC822>
In-Reply-To: <32A5DDA6.2ED9@ix.netcom.com>
References: Conversation <32A5DDA6.2ED9@ix.netcom.com> with last message <32A5DDA6.2ED9@ix.netcom.com>

To: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>,
        QuadraSynth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>

From: Abraham Lee <alee@gers.com>
Subject: Re: Need a case for my QS+




> Does anyone have a case for their QS+ that they would recommend?  
The 2
> brands I've heard of are Modern Case and Pro-Tech.
> 
> Any help is appreciated!!!
> -- 
> 

I have a QS7 which is about the same size as a QS+ (I think - 
both are 76 keys), the case that I use is from SKB.  It's sturdy, 
and light weight.  Certain modles even come with wheels.  Plus, it 
has adjustable foam so you can easily adjust it to fit your QS+ 
nicely.  Model number for my case is SKB 5014 (SKB 5014W is the 
one with wheels) it costs me $199.  

Hope this help.

Abe
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Thu Dec  5 10:55:59 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+xRidmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card





Hello everyone,

I just got my 8MB Flash RAM Card (AMC008DFLK)  from Marshall Industries. Again 
their telephone # is (800)522-0084. I purchased the plastic version not the 
metal. By the way they are now calling it "plastic"  not "ceramic".  Even 
though I own a QS6 the "metal" card would work OK, I still decided to order 
the "plastic" card just incase I might later sell it or even buy a QS7 or QS8. 
I tested I out last night and worked just fine. Don't fully understand all the 
features that SoundBridge has though (any comments or suggestions are 
welcome.)

So now that I have the card . . . where's a good place to purchase or download 
high-quality, good sounding raw samples. I mainly interested in Stereo Piano, 
Organ & String samples in .wav file format.  Are there other file formats for 
the PC or file conversions for the PC that will also work?, other that .aiff 
(mac).

Thanks-  Andy
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From SMoorby@spherecom.com  Thu Dec  5 11:22:20 1996
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Sphere_Communica%l=PUBSERVER-961205162015Z-1302@pubserver.spherecom.com>
From: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@spherecom.com>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card
X-Mailer:  Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5





>
>I just got my 8MB Flash RAM Card (AMC008DFLK)  from Marshall Industries.
>Again 
>their telephone # is (800)522-0084. I purchased the plastic version not the 
>metal. By the way they are now calling it "plastic"  not "ceramic".  Even 
>though I own a QS6 the "metal" card would work OK, I still decided to order 
>the "plastic" card just incase I might later sell it or even buy a QS7 or
>QS8. 
>I tested I out last night and worked just fine. Don't fully understand all
>the 
>features that SoundBridge has though (any comments or suggestions are 
>welcome.)

I'm confused.  I thought that the ceramic flash devices were required
for the two slot QS7 and QS8.  Or is there a different solution to the
problem using a plastic rather than a metal case?

==================================================================
Steve Moorby
e-mail :	smoorby@spherecom.com

>
>
>
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Thu Dec  5 12:08:14 1996
Message-Id: <199612051708.MAA21246@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card





On  5 Dec 96 at 10:55, ABlanchard@swri.edu wrote:

> So now that I have the card . . . where's a good place to purchase or download
> high-quality, good sounding raw samples. I mainly interested in Stereo Piano,
> Organ & String samples in .wav file format.  Are there other file formats for
> the PC or file conversions for the PC that will also work?, other that .aiff
> (mac).

You can start at the QuadraSynth Web site, there is a new page, called the
 SoundBridge Page. You will find some resources there, links to samples and
utilities. (more will be added later, suggestions welcome)
There is a sample conversion utility, (Awave) it will convert most of the existing
sample formats to WAV files, so you can use Kurzweil, Ensoniq or AKAI
samples as well as any other audio file formats. 
The SoundBridge Page has links to hundreds of megabytes of samples, and 
most of the available utilities, so it will get you started.

I would welcome any additions, (especially from Mac users, since I use a
PC, and have no access to Macs)

Les

Direct link to the SoundBridge Page :
 
      http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/sndbrdge.htm 

or you can get there from the What's New Page of the QS web site.

--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From progmon@eden.com  Thu Dec  5 14:39:18 1996
Message-ID: <32A72487.4532@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: lwinters@midiworld.com

Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card
References: <199612051708.MAA21246@www14.clever.net>




More Tips for Flash Ram Sample Dumpers:
1. Keep those samples as hot as possible without distortion.  If your
wav editor offers compression it might be useful to maximize gain.
2. Sound forge works well for preparing samples and loops.  Editing
loops in SB is really not possible, unless you don't mind clicks and
pops.
3. I find it works well to do all the looping in my sampler, use Forge
to get it, then bridge to send it to the qs8.

-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From Rlamphear@aol.com  Thu Dec  5 20:00:12 1996
From: Rlamphear@aol.com
Message-ID: <961205195936_2050337350@emout06.mail.aol.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card





In a message dated 12/5/96 12:45:09 PM, lwinters@midiworld.com (Les Winters)
wrote:

<<There is a sample conversion utility, (Awave) it will convert most of the
existing
sample formats to WAV files, so you can use Kurzweil, Ensoniq or AKAI
samples as well as any other audio file formats. >>

But how do you access the files themselves?  Won't a PC or Mac reject a
CD-ROM that is in Kurz, Ensoniq or Akai disk format?

Rich

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Thu Dec  5 20:58:11 1996
Message-Id: <199612060158.UAA08374@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card





On  5 Dec 96 at 20:00, Rlamphear@aol.com wrote:

> <<There is a sample conversion utility, (Awave) it will convert most of the
> existing sample formats to WAV files, so you can use Kurzweil, Ensoniq or AKAI
> samples as well as any other audio file formats. >>
> 
> But how do you access the files themselves?  Won't a PC or Mac reject a
> CD-ROM that is in Kurz, Ensoniq or Akai disk format?

You can find tons of free samples on the Net, in all of those formats, use them
for experimenting.  If you want to buy CD-ROMs, contact the dealer, to 
find out if they can be used with your computer.  I will try to get some more
info, and will post it on the page.

Les

--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From hex@io.com  Thu Dec  5 21:42:12 1996
Message-ID: <32A78743.6803@io.com>
From: Wynne Anderson Hexamer <hex@io.com>
Reply-To: hex@io.com
Organization: Hexamer Industries
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I)

To: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Soundbridge Features




Unless you're from the "a bug is a feature" school of thought, you're
not going to find many features in Soundbridge, 'cause it has few
(except perhaps its ability to handle pretty much any format wav file). 
I am speaking from the perspective of someone who has used 1.2 on the
x86 platform since it's release (though it was just an incremental
upgrade from 1.0 in the true sense of the phrase).  

I'm continuing to wait for the release of version 2.0 for the
x86-windows platform, hoping against hope that they will incorporate the
Windows 95 interface (highly doubtful). Patience isn't one of my many
virtues. 

I love my Quadrasynth and use my 8mb flash card (which I bought from
Alesis) extensively in compositions, in fact this capability was the
deciding factor in my synth purchase.  Perhaps that is why the problems
with Soundbridge bother me to such a degree--I must use it often, and
know the process could be so much more productive and less annoying. 

That's my unvarnished opinion, sorry about the extended lurking--this
semester was unbelievably taxing, but the hard work has paid off. 

Sincerely yours,

Wynne Anderson Hexamer
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From senip@j51.com  Thu Dec  5 23:28:28 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199612060425.XAA05175@j51.com>
Subject: Finally played one ..
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b]





To whoever cares about my ramblings,



	I went to a local Sam Ash, completely by chance since I was there 
to go to a bike shop, and they had a real live QS8! I almost fainted! :) 
Anyway, I immediately sat down and hit the plastic. I'm very impressed 
with the feel of the new Fatar action. At first it almost seemed a little 
too light, but if it is, it more than makes up for it in overall 'feel'. 
It's amazing for me to have played a synth that has so many good sounds 
on so many keys. Although all I really acomplished was making me even 
more crazy about waiting for Musician's Friend to get the damn things in! 
I need to buy it from them because of their cool payment plan (1/6 of the 
price charged each month for 6 months) According to M.F. they expect to 
get the QS8's in on the 19th, so I just may have a VERY happy Xmass this 
year. And I'll probably not leave my room until well after the new year :)

	Btw, after looking at all the different stands, I think I'm going 
to go with the Ultimate A-frame 2 tier. It's very sturdy, and gives you 
many options with keyboard placement and such. I just hope I'll be able 
to make it until the 19th before I go crazy!

	I just may buy an 8M flash card as well, and get some real use 
out of my little Peavey SX-II sampler that I bought a few years back. Too 
bad the QS8 doesn't have a SCSI port on it though, that would make 
transfers REALLY fly, but serial is WAY better than just MIDI, so I'm not 
complaining too much. Maybe I'll start sampling things just to get some 
practice in and keep me sane. :) Anyway, sorry for the length, I just had 
to tell someone. Thanks for the great info guys, I hope to be more active 
once I become part of the QS family officially. 


					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Fri Dec  6 07:45:00 1996
Message-ID: <32A83F05.347A@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Sound Bridge, QS+, and sysex...




I tried yet again to write a sysex bank to my Flash card, this time
using Freeloader to save the dump.  Again, the Crd1: bank is just full
of garbage.

Anyone had luck writing a sysex user bank to the Flash card using Sound
Bridge?

Any help would be appreciated...I know this battery is going to die
during a gig and I'll be S.O.L without the sounds backed up somehow.  My
O1/w will store an external sysex bank, but it can only handle 64k, so
the QS+ dump overflows it.

Thanks!
-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/~mitchb2/
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From chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com  Fri Dec  6 11:51:50 1996
Message-Id: <199612061658.JAA04186@ratcage.fc.hp.com>
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To: Rlamphear@aol.com

Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Dec 1996 20:00:12 EST."
             <961205195936_2050337350@emout06.mail.aol.com> 
From: Channing Benson <chan@ratcage.fc.hp.com>





>> There is a sample conversion utility, (Awave) it will convert most of the
>> existing
>> sample formats to WAV files, so you can use Kurzweil, Ensoniq or AKAI
>> samples as well as any other audio file formats. >>
> 
> But how do you access the files themselves?  Won't a PC or Mac reject a
> CD-ROM that is in Kurz, Ensoniq or Akai disk format?

I would really really really hope that all sampler manufacturers use 
ISO-9660 format for their CD-ROMs. If so, you should have no problem
reading them in a PC or Mac.

			-- Chan

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From abrisben@alesis1.usa.com  Fri Dec  6 16:42:06 1996
message-id: <amcfbadi@alesis1.usa.com>
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
to: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        Wynne Anderson Hexamer <hex@IO.COM>
Subject: Re: Soundbridge Features






O.K., so you have communicated you feel Soundbridge 1.20 is lame, 
annoying, full of bugs, not useful, and doesn't work in Win `95. Do 
you have any useful information to elaborate with or did you just want 
to gripe out loud in public? If you have any productive suggestions, 
by all means, send them along. 

Adam



______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Soundbridge Features
Author:  mail@ih (Wynne Anderson Hexamer) {+hex@io.com} at MHS
Date:    12/5/96 9:42 PM


Unless you're from the "a bug is a feature" school of thought, you're 
not going to find many features in Soundbridge, 'cause it has few 
(except perhaps its ability to handle pretty much any format wav file). 
I am speaking from the perspective of someone who has used 1.2 on the 
x86 platform since it's release (though it was just an incremental 
upgrade from 1.0 in the true sense of the phrase).

I'm continuing to wait for the release of version 2.0 for the 
x86-windows platform, hoping against hope that they will incorporate the 
Windows 95 interface (highly doubtful). Patience isn't one of my many 
virtues.

I love my Quadrasynth and use my 8mb flash card (which I bought from 
Alesis) extensively in compositions, in fact this capability was the 
deciding factor in my synth purchase.  Perhaps that is why the problems 
with Soundbridge bother me to such a degree--I must use it often, and 
know the process could be so much more productive and less annoying.

That's my unvarnished opinion, sorry about the extended lurking--this 
semester was unbelievably taxing, but the hard work has paid off.

Sincerely yours,

Wynne Anderson Hexamer
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From joec@filenet.com  Fri Dec  6 19:14:22 1996
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=MSIMC%l=MSIMC/EX1/0003BA6F@fn-smtp.filenet.com>
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From: "Chavez, Joe" <joec@filenet.com>
To: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: Soundbridge Features
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How about fixes the bugs in 1.2 first, then maybe you can get around to 
implementing any "productive suggestions" that you may receive.
_joe

----------
From:  abrisben@alesis1.usa.com[SMTP:abrisben@alesis1.usa.com]
Sent:  Friday, December 06, 1996 1:42 PM
To:  Quadrasynth Mailing List; Wynne Anderson Hexamer
Subject:  Re: Soundbridge Features

O.K., so you have communicated you feel Soundbridge 1.20 is lame,
annoying, full of bugs, not useful, and doesn't work in Win `95. Do
you have any useful information to elaborate with or did you just want
to gripe out loud in public? If you have any productive suggestions,
by all means, send them along.

Adam



______________________________ Reply Separator 
_________________________________
Subject: Soundbridge Features
Author:  mail@ih (Wynne Anderson Hexamer) {+hex@io.com} at MHS
Date:    12/5/96 9:42 PM


Unless you're from the "a bug is a feature" school of thought, you're
not going to find many features in Soundbridge, 'cause it has few
(except perhaps its ability to handle pretty much any format wav file).
I am speaking from the perspective of someone who has used 1.2 on the
x86 platform since it's release (though it was just an incremental
upgrade from 1.0 in the true sense of the phrase).

I'm continuing to wait for the release of version 2.0 for the
x86-windows platform, hoping against hope that they will incorporate the
Windows 95 interface (highly doubtful). Patience isn't one of my many
virtues.

I love my Quadrasynth and use my 8mb flash card (which I bought from
Alesis) extensively in compositions, in fact this capability was the
deciding factor in my synth purchase.  Perhaps that is why the problems
with Soundbridge bother me to such a degree--I must use it often, and
know the process could be so much more productive and less annoying.

That's my unvarnished opinion, sorry about the extended lurking--this
semester was unbelievably taxing, but the hard work has paid off.

Sincerely yours,

Wynne Anderson Hexamer
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From senip@j51.com  Fri Dec  6 22:03:37 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199612070300.WAA14011@j51.com>
Subject: Re: Finally played one ..
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
In-Reply-To: <961206180733_2050494991@emout10.mail.aol.com> from "SayerSeely@aol.com" at Dec 6, 96 06:07:35 pm
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> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Wanted to let you know that I have the 2-tier Ultimate keyboard stand....
> 
--------some good advice snipped----------
>
> Thought you may want to hear the concerns before you purchased one.
> 
> Sayer Seely
> 

	I can see where that would be a problem. I'll have to see if 
there are any other stands that work well with the QS8. There was a 
3-tier stand that Sam Ash was using for the Qs6/7/8's that they had on 
display, I'll have to get back there and give it a look. It felt sturdy 
enough for my usual hard playing style, but I'll have to give it the 
works :) Since I'm going to be waiting for Musician's Friend to get the 
QS8 in I still have some research time for checking out stands and 
benches. Thanks for the help.

					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Sat Dec  7 00:03:47 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Soundbridge suggestions



>Do 
>you have any useful information to elaborate with or did you just want 
>to gripe out loud in public? If you have any productive suggestions, 
>by all means, send them along. 

Suggestion: buy a dedicated sampler and use that instead of screwing with
SoundBridge.

Add up the costs--a ROM card, a decent piece of software like Sound Forge.
It gets expensive.  Plus, if you buy a sampler, you get to MAKE YOUR OWN
SAMPLES, which was the whole point to samplers in the first place.

SoundBridge was written as an enticement for 3rd-party developers to use the
QS, right?  I think it's all too complicated for use by the general public
(not that we're stupid, but too many "consumer" electronics are too complex
and easy to screw up).

I'm a grouch,
Derek

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From ksherm@satsoft.com  Sat Dec  7 00:53:58 1996
Message-Id: <199612070549.AAA16162@mail.his.com>
From: "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com>
To: "Greg Stritmater" <senip@j51.com>,
        "Quadra-Synth Mailing List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Stands for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)




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I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level Z726, good for sitting,
$149. You can have a look at it at
http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html
I haven't seen this in person yet. Anybody seen one?

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> 	I can see where that would be a problem. I'll have to see if 
> there are any other stands that work well with the QS8. There was a 
> 3-tier stand that Sam Ash was using for the Qs6/7/8's that they had on 
> display, I'll have to get back there and give it a look. It felt sturdy 
> enough for my usual hard playing style, but I'll have to give it the 
> works :) Since I'm going to be waiting for Musician's Friend to get the 
> QS8 in I still have some research time for checking out stands and 
> benches. Thanks for the help.
> 

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From buchholz@uwplatt.edu  Sat Dec  7 01:07:52 1996
From: Lauren Buchholz <buchholz@uwplatt.edu>
Subject: Re: Finally played one ..
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Message-id: <32A861AC.D85@uwplatt.edu>

X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)


References: <199612070300.WAA14011@j51.com>


What was th problem with the stand?  I must have missed that message.  I
use a quik-lok two tier, and it works great, the base stand which my QS8
sits on is a reinforced z type thing and holds the keybords great, no
movement at all.  There is a picture of in the back of this months
electronic musician mag.

Greg Stritmater wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Wanted to let you know that I have the 2-tier Ultimate keyboard stand....
> >
> --------some good advice snipped----------
> >
> > Thought you may want to hear the concerns before you purchased one.
> >
> > Sayer Seely
> >
> 
>         I can see where that would be a problem. I'll have to see if
> there are any other stands that work well with the QS8. There was a
> 3-tier stand that Sam Ash was using for the Qs6/7/8's that they had on
> display, I'll have to get back there and give it a look. It felt sturdy
> enough for my usual hard playing style, but I'll have to give it the
> works :) Since I'm going to be waiting for Musician's Friend to get the
> QS8 in I still have some research time for checking out stands and
> benches. Thanks for the help.
> 
>                                         Greg Stritmater
>                                         senip@j51.com
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
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From jfa@best.com  Sat Dec  7 04:16:43 1996
Message-Id: <v02140b01aecee2f91415@[206.86.5.45]>


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: jfa@best.com (John Altman)
Subject: Re: Stands for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)



"Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com> wrote:

>I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level Z726, good for sitting,
>$149. You can have a look at it at
>http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html
>I haven't seen this in person yet. Anybody seen one?

Yes, I have one--QS+ on the lower level, NordLead above. It's a great
stand, absolutely rock solid. The upper tier can be adjusted in numerous
ways. I'm very happy with it.

John Altman


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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Dec  7 04:20:12 1996
Message-ID: <32A9366B.323E@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: Derek Donovan <donovan@kcstar.com>

Subject: 2Re: Soundbridge suggestions
References: <199612070527.XAA17618@kcsg1.kcstar.com>




> >Do 
> >you have any useful information to elaborate with or did you just want 
> >to gripe out loud in public? If you have any productive suggestions, 
> >by all means, send them along. 

> Suggestion: buy a dedicated sampler and use that instead of screwing with
> SoundBridge.
> 
> Add up the costs--a ROM card, a decent piece of software like Sound Forge.
> It gets expensive.  Plus, if you buy a sampler, you get to MAKE YOUR OWN
> SAMPLES, which was the whole point to samplers in the first place.
> 

Well, a Sampler does Samples better than Soundbridge, let there be no
doubt in that.  However, if you can't afford a sampler and are good at
messing with WAV files, Bridge has its benefits.  Ditto if you don't
want to carry your sampler and its hard drives to a gig, the QS
architecture will play them just as well, and with an added benefit of a
complete synth engine at your disposal and the Q2 based effects, all of
which you can program via sysex.  Most samplers don't do sysex.  While
some samplers now have effects, few can rival the effects in the qs
engine, unless you pay Big Bucks.  

Many inexperienced folks are bound to be a bit disappointed when they
hear there first run of samples.  It takes a bit of work to get it
right.  The samples must be clean, loud, and looped well.  The major
shortcoming of Bridge is that it has no way to audition loops you edit
within it.  It would be silly to edit a loop in bridge, wait 30 minutes
for so to upload the whole shebang only to find out ooops, it pops.

You simply have to have something that can do loops right, be it Sound
Forge, Alchemy, or a decent PD Wav editor.  You should normalize the
gain and perhaps even boost it a bit more if you can. (Hint, on some
sounds, digital clipping sounds good). All those ROM samples in the QSx
were meticulously tweaked to get the best response.  Yours will pale in
comparision unless you meticulously tweak them to make them as hot and
full bodied as possible. Remember!  You can always dull a sample in the
QS with its filter, but you can't add upper harmonics that are not there
to begin with.  Its OK to send them in a tad bright. The biggest problem
you will face is a sample with poorly omptimized gain and a lack of
upper harmonics.  Those tend to be nearly useless.  It is wise to patch
an eq as you sample.  Make those suckers HOT!

 Then, once its in the QS you can work on it.  There is Alot you can do
with a properly looped, bright sample, far more than you can do in most
samplers.  Stack it up X4, assign a different effect to each sound,
combine them, pan 'em, detune them, morph them with the tranform
generator, use those 12 lfos and envelopes. And don't forget the
sliders/quad knobs, velocity and pressure controls.  The bottom line is,
if you want excellent results, you have to do the work.  If you don't
want to do the work, get some of the new ROM cards, where the work is
done for you. 
 
For myself, I plan to have both a RAM and a ROM.  In the RAM, I'm going
to put my favorite samples, ones I use alot.  That frees up the sampler.

If I were to make useful suggestions to Sound Bridge it would be these:
1. Allow the ability to audition sounds after they are added to the
list.  Auditioning/editing loops is a plus.
2. Improve the partitioning of Flash RAM cards to make it possible to
upload as many banks of sounds as one likes.  Sure, I could buy a Qcard
and get 4 banks, but then I'd only have 24 megs of samples.
3. If it was possible, and it probably isn't, it would be great to load
one sample at a time.  
4. Finally, and I know I'm dreaming here, it would be great to be able
to extract via bulk or individual sound, so they could be saved on a
computer hard drive.
5. Include an onscreen keyboard that will allow the playing of the
audtioned sample at different pitches through the computer sound card. 
That way we'd be better able to decide whether to include the sample in
the bulk dump or not. 

But hey, SoundBridge is free.  It shouldn't be dis'd too much.  The
program works, in win 31 and win 95.     

I would not be shy about sending sounds at 22050 sampling rate.  there
are actually benefits to doing so.  1) Memory goes farther  2) You get
extended keyboard range.  Save 44.1 for samples that really need it,
cymbals, bells, anything that needs precise high end.  90% of things I
want to play don't need it.  Some techno stuff sounds better at a lower
rate.  Orchestral stuff and acoustic instruments do benefit from 44.1.
Synths are a wash.
  
Hope this helps some of you new bridgers.  Happy Sampling!   
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sat Dec  7 05:04:59 1996
Message-Id: <199612071004.FAA05286@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Soundbridge suggestions

CC: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com




On  7 Dec 96 at 0:03, Derek Donovan wrote:

> Suggestion: buy a dedicated sampler and use that instead of screwing with
> SoundBridge.
> 
> Add up the costs--a ROM card, a decent piece of software like Sound Forge. It
> gets expensive.  Plus, if you buy a sampler, you get to MAKE YOUR OWN SAMPLES,
> which was the whole point to samplers in the first place.
> 
> SoundBridge was written as an enticement for 3rd-party developers to use the
> QS, right?  I think it's all too complicated for use by the general public
> (not that we're stupid, but too many "consumer" electronics are too complex
> and easy to screw up).

I used SoundBridge, with no problems. It was much easier, and a lot cheaper
than any dedicated sampler. 
Using SoundBridge is the easy part. Finding a compatible PCMCIA card is 
quite challenging, and here's one suggestion for Alesis : how about selling
the cards for a reasonable price ? Currently Alesis sells the cards for more 
than double of the normal price. ($369 for an $184 card ? Why?)

Transferring the samples is simple, writing good programs with them is
complex. Very few QS users know how to take advantage of all the cool
programming features. Here's another suggestion : check out the new
Editor (QE2.0), I just uploaded the new and improved demo to the QS
Page. The full version comes with a free tutorial, which is very helpful for
beginners and even advanced users. For me, this editor makes programming fun,
and easy. Without the editor it's just too complicated, I'd have to read the 
manual, and think, which I'm not accustomed to.

Finally, I don't work for Alesis, or anything, but before we put down 
SoundBridge, let's compare it with what other companies offer with their 
under $1000 synthesizers. Korg or Roland machines are not even expandable
at this price. SoundBridge maybe not perfect, but it works, and it's free.

Les


 
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From 0222510590-0001@t-online.de  Sat Dec  7 06:58:37 1996
Message-ID: <32AAAA70.2E27@t-online.de>
From: Ulrich Becker <0222510590-0001@t-online.de>


To: Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com, Adam Brisben <abrisben@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: Re: Soundbridge Features
References: <amcfbadi@alesis1.usa.com>




Adam,

One feature I'm particularly missing about Soundbridge 1.20 is the 
ability to create multisamples or velocity-split samples. As far as I 
understand, Version 2.00 for the Mac incorporates SampleCell format 
capability, which allows for this.

Bye, 
Ulrich
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From dave4068@airmail.net  Sat Dec  7 07:57:53 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: dave4068@airmail.net (David Reeves)
Subject: Re: 2Re: Soundbridge suggestions



>Many inexperienced folks are bound to be a bit disappointed when they
>hear there first run of samples.  It takes a bit of work to get it
>right.  The samples must be clean, loud, and looped well.  The major
>shortcoming of Bridge is that it has no way to audition loops you edit
>within it.  It would be silly to edit a loop in bridge, wait 30 minutes
>for so to upload the whole shebang only to find out ooops, it pops.
>
>You simply have to have something that can do loops right, be it Sound
>Forge, Alchemy, or a decent PD Wav editor.  You should normalize the
>gain and perhaps even boost it a bit more if you can. (Hint, on some
>sounds, digital clipping sounds good). All those ROM samples in the QSx
>were meticulously tweaked to get the best response.  Yours will pale in
>comparision unless you meticulously tweak them to make them as hot and
>full bodied as possible. Remember!  You can always dull a sample in the
>QS with its filter, but you can't add upper harmonics that are not there
>to begin with.  Its OK to send them in a tad bright. The biggest problem
>you will face is a sample with poorly omptimized gain and a lack of
>upper harmonics.  Those tend to be nearly useless.  It is wise to patch
>an eq as you sample.  Make those suckers HOT!


Am I right or wrong in assuming that most of these problems would be
eliminated if one purchased samples from a third party, (e.g. East-West,
Pro-Rec etc.)

I understand the sample would have to be in the correct format (wav. or
sample-cell), but wouldn't this be a way to add quality sounds without
all the editing hassles?

I have also heard of programs that will convert popular sample formats
like Akai and Roland to wav. files. This would seem to open up lots
of new possibilities.

I may be totally off base on these ideas, having never used Soundbridge,
so set me straight if this is the case.

David 

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From quinone@nol.net  Sat Dec  7 08:28:09 1996
Message-Id: <199612071328.HAA24799@nol.net>
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: quinone@nol.net (Quinone)
Subject: a few... questions



   Hi, I recently got the plus upgrade and have begun playing around with
all the new midi messages and RAM features that are available and have run
across a few problems.

1) How do you get the effects parameters to change in a mix? Even when I
send    
   them across the effects channel, they do not respond.  A strong example
of    
   this is trying to sipmly change controller D on the multitimbral mix.  Is

   there any way to get it to work via midi or sysex?
2) When I tried to save programs to a PCMCIA RAM card (the one by AMD from
   Marshall) it claims that it is a FLASH card and that ir cannot store.
   Although I'm sure it is because of the ram type that I bought, it is also one
   with a metal case.  This fact isn't the causitive situation is it? I mean    
   should I try with a plastic case?
3) Although I'm probablly dreaming, is there any way to speed up transfer over 
   MIDI when uploading samples to the QS ram card? Granted I know this isn't 
   serial, but is there any kind of driver or such that could help?
4) I had some problems trying to access the card program bank when using MIDI 
   messages.  The card bank is 5, right? Has anyone else had this problem? The
   mix simply ignores the message (or stays in the current bank).

Thanks in advance again to all those who post and help regularly.

Eric Zavesky

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From jeffrey@i-2000.com  Sat Dec  7 08:33:22 1996
From: jeffrey@i-2000.com
Message-ID: <32A96550.106E@i-2000.com>


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: $500 s4+ to be discontinued?




I was just at Sam Ash (NYC) yesterday and saw then blowing out s4+'s for $500. You really cant ask for much 
more of a deal. They have it advertised in their new holiday catalog and they had plenty of them in stock as 
well.  Does that mean they too are going to be discontinued like QS+.

Jeff  - "who doesn't want to see anyone seling used s4+ on rmmm new group for over $500 but Im sure I will!"

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From ppp067c@main.citynet.net  Sat Dec  7 09:31:20 1996
Message-Id: <199612071432.JAA09497@main.citynet.net>
Subject: Re: Soundbridge suggestions
x-sender: ppp067c@main.citynet.net

From: "Kurt K. Knopp" <kknopp@citynet.net>
To: "QS LIST" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>





>Subject:     Soundbridge suggestions
>Sent:        12/7/96 12:03 AM
>Received:    12/7/96 8:36 AM
>From:        Derek Donovan, donovan@kcstar.com
>To:          QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
>
>>Do 
>>you have any useful information to elaborate with or did you just want 
>>to gripe out loud in public? If you have any productive suggestions, 
>>by all means, send them along. 
>
>Suggestion: buy a dedicated sampler and use that instead of screwing with
>SoundBridge.
>
>Add up the costs--a ROM card, a decent piece of software like Sound Forge.

Yes do.  Add up the costs.  A decent sampler.....over $1,OOO.  Period.

I believe that Soundbridge was created as a way to allow those who didn't 
want to spend $1,000 and then also have to either spend more money or 
time for sounds and already had a computer to be able to use their own 
sample......for a little over 1 hundred dollars for a ram card.

Lets take a QS6 for example.  You can get them for around lets say $800.  
That gets a great keyboard with awesome effects, top quality sounds and 
great Alesis quality.  For another $150 or so (that makes it $900), if 
you also have a computer, you can use various cheap shareware or freeware 
programs to create your own samples (lots of computer software are more 
powerful than samplers in sound creation anyways).

So now you have sampling capabilities, great effects, top quality sounds 
and great Alesis quality all for UNDER $1,000.  PLEASE tell me of a new 
sampler that offers these options at under $1,000.  If you just want a 
sampler.....buy a sampler.  If you want a versitile synth with HUGE bang 
for the buck....buy a QS synth.

By the way.....I have no problems with the Mac Soundbridge software.  
THANK YOU ALESIS!

-------------------------     
      Kurt Knopp
mailto:kknopp@citynet.net
------------------------- 

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From senip@j51.com  Sat Dec  7 15:01:57 1996
From: Greg Stritmater <senip@j51.com>
Message-Id: <199612071958.OAA16995@j51.com>
Subject: Re: Stands for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com (Quadra-Synth Mailing List)
In-Reply-To: <v02140b01aecee2f91415@[206.86.5.45]> from "John Altman" at Dec 7, 96 04:16:43 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b]





> 
> "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> >I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level Z726, good for sitting,
> >$149. You can have a look at it at
> >http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html
> >I haven't seen this in person yet. Anybody seen one?
> 
> Yes, I have one--QS+ on the lower level, NordLead above. It's a great
> stand, absolutely rock solid. The upper tier can be adjusted in numerous
> ways. I'm very happy with it.
> 
> John Altman


	That stand does look pretty nice, but the price at Sweetwater 
is listed at $186.95. Did you get the other price somewhere else? BTW, 
has anyone used the QL/642 model? That's a bit cheaper and looks pretty 
sturdy, even if it is an "X" style stand.


					Greg Stritmater
					senip@j51.com
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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Dec  7 15:18:50 1996
Message-ID: <32A9D0CB.70A1@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: David Reeves <dave4068@airmail.net>

Subject: Re: 2Re: Soundbridge suggestions
References: <m0vWMKI-000QvmE@mail.airmail.net>




> Am I right or wrong in assuming that most of these problems would be
> eliminated if one purchased samples from a third party, (e.g. East-West,
> Pro-Rec etc.)

Unless the CD has wav files on it, you still have to sample the audio
into your computer
> 
> I understand the sample would have to be in the correct format (wav. or
> sample-cell), but wouldn't this be a way to add quality sounds without
> all the editing hassles?

Merely recording it is not enough.  You have to loop it and make it as
hot as possible.
> 
> I have also heard of programs that will convert popular sample formats
> like Akai and Roland to wav. files. This would seem to open up lots
> of new possibilities.
  
Which program?  I havent heard of that!
> 
> I may be totally off base on these ideas, having never used Soundbridge,
> so set me straight if this is the case.

-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From vergil@midusa.net  Sat Dec  7 15:59:00 1996
Message-ID: <32A9DD18.A0A@midusa.net>
From: Chris <vergil@midusa.net>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)

To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Soundbridge Features
References: <c=US%a=_%p=MSIMC%l=MSIMC/EX1/0003BA6F@fn-smtp.filenet.com>




Chavez, Joe wrote:
> 
> How about fixes the bugs in 1.2 first, then maybe you can get around to
> implementing any "productive suggestions" that you may receive.
> _joe
> 
> ----------
> From:  abrisben@alesis1.usa.com[SMTP:abrisben@alesis1.usa.com]
> Sent:  Friday, December 06, 1996 1:42 PM
> To:  Quadrasynth Mailing List; Wynne Anderson Hexamer
> Subject:  Re: Soundbridge Features
> 
> O.K., so you have communicated you feel Soundbridge 1.20 is lame,
> annoying, full of bugs, not useful, and doesn't work in Win `95. Do
> you have any useful information to elaborate with or did you just want
> to gripe out loud in public? If you have any productive suggestions,
> by all means, send them along.

I believe Adam's point was that bug reports are welcome, and suggestions
and constructive criticism are welcome. Wynne's original message was, in
a nutshell "it sucks and it's buggy". When I read it I was trying to
think of what bugs he could be talking about. I know when someone brings
in a computer to my shop and says "it doesn't work... fix it" I begin to
loose hair - the customer is frustrated, I don't know how to procede
with the repair and ultimately, we both loose. 

Now I'm sure that since you mentioned that Alesis should "fixes the
bugs" in version 1.2, you know of some bugs and could point them out on
this list. That way people who use SB1.2 can benefit from your
experience and the folks at Alesis can get a better idea of what's going
on with their software. 

To mention a minor (and I mean MINOR) bug - there is a problem on my
machine with SB 1.2 and the color map for the background image of the
QS8. I'm using Win95, a 486DX2/50, 20mb RAM, a Diamond STPro VLB at
800x600. The problem usually occurs after Netscape grabs a portion of
the colormap - SoundBridge keeps using a oddly dithered colormap for
areas of the window that were obscured. It's sort of unsightly, and I'm
sure it's just a problem in the way Win95 handles window redraw events
compared to Win 3.1.

I hope I haven't contributed to a flame war of doom, I just felt that
the issue needed some clarification.

Thanks,

Christopher Wall
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From alevin@mail.nj.com  Sat Dec  7 16:50:09 1996
From: Adam Levin <alevin@mail.nj.com>
X-Sender: alevin@zen.advance.net
Reply-To: alevin@mail.nj.com
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Stands for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)
In-Reply-To: <v02140b01aecee2f91415@[206.86.5.45]>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.94.961207164235.10970B-100000@zen.advance.net>





On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, John Altman wrote:
> "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com> wrote:
> >I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level Z726, good for sitting,
> >$149. You can have a look at it at
> >http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html
> >I haven't seen this in person yet. Anybody seen one?
> 
> Yes, I have one--QS+ on the lower level, NordLead above. It's a great
> stand, absolutely rock solid. The upper tier can be adjusted in numerous
> ways. I'm very happy with it.

I've got a quick lok Z stand as well -- QS8 on the main level, Fatar 610+
on the upper.  It's the best stand I've ever used for sitting, but it
isn't height adjustable (I think they *do* make a height-adjustable Z
stand, though).  At least the top tier is height adjustable.  Anyway, I
think I need to sell it because sometimes I stand, and so I'm going te get
a double braced double tiered X stand -- Ultimate just came out with a
pretty cheap (under $100) one, but I'm waiting for the second tier.  If
you are interested in the Z stand, let me know...

-Adam


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From hex@io.com  Sat Dec  7 17:43:28 1996
Message-ID: <32A9F252.5B24@io.com>
From: Wynne Anderson Hexamer <hex@io.com>
Reply-To: hex@io.com
Organization: Hexamer Industries
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I)

To: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Soundbridge Suggestion




Here is the same suggestion I made months ago when I began using it: 
Add the ability to INSERT samples in the list.  How about the ability to
PRINT a list of samples?  This isn't rocket science here.  If I find the
need to replace a sample I must create an entire new project file sample
by sample.  Simply deleting a sample changes their position within the
synth and therefore invalidates program information that points at
them.  All of this involves a lot of scribbling on a notepad and that is
RIDICULOUS!!!  It's the weak link in my wonderfully automated
sequencer/sample editing setup.  Send me the source code, and I'll
happily make the changes myself.

Sincerely yours,

Wynne Anderson Hexamer (hex@io.com)
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From jcast@micro-net.com  Sat Dec  7 18:46:50 1996
From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@micro-net.com>
X-Sender: jcast@candy
To: "Kurt K. Knopp" <kknopp@citynet.net>
cc: QS LIST <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Soundbridge suggestions
In-Reply-To: <199612071432.JAA09497@main.citynet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961207184457.4589A-100000@candy>





I don't have much to say about Sound Bridge, only because I haven't used
it before, but it sounds wonderful and much better than spending lots of
money on a sampler.  Anyway, let's face it, the *good* things about Sound
Bridge seem to *very much* outway the bad.


Jason

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From jcast@micro-net.com  Sat Dec  7 18:56:41 1996
From: Jason Castonguay <jcast@micro-net.com>
X-Sender: jcast@candy
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: awave
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961207184922.4589B-100000@candy>


iworld.com


I have heard many people discussing a program that will convert lots of
audio formats into .wav or some other type of audio file for use with
Sound Bridge.  I have found a link to where you can get this program
(Awave).  As far as I know, the latest version is 3.2.  Here is the link.

http://www.student.nada.kth.se/~f93-maj/fmjsoft.html

I hope this helps, and I hope you all enjoy.


Jason

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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Dec  7 19:10:42 1996
Message-ID: <32AA0724.1ECA@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: hex@io.com
CC: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Soundbridge Suggestion
References: <32A9F252.5B24@io.com>




>  If I find the
> need to replace a sample I must create an entire new project file sample
> by sample.  Simply deleting a sample changes their position within the
> synth and therefore invalidates program information that points at
> them. 

I agree.  That needs to be a priority fix.

Without it, you really have to work hard on your samples and organize
them well, before you program.  After you program for some 100-200
samples you are not going to want to mess up the order.
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From dave4068@airmail.net  Sat Dec  7 20:24:45 1996
Message-Id: <m0vWXz6-000RE0E@mail.airmail.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: dave4068@airmail.net (David Reeves)
Subject: Re: 2Re: Soundbridge suggestions



>
>> I have also heard of programs that will convert popular sample formats
>> like Akai and Roland to wav. files. This would seem to open up lots
>> of new possibilities.
>  
>Which program?  I havent heard of that!
>> 
One is a shareware program called "Awave", available at
http://www.student.nada.kth.se/~f93-maj/fmjsoft.html.
Take a look at the list of convertable formats.

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From rivrmoon@isomedia.com  Sun Dec  8 04:41:33 1996
Message-Id: <199612080940.BAA01251@isomedia.com>
Subject: QS-7 vs QS-8

From: Rivermoon <rivrmoon@isomedia.com>
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>





Hi everyone.

I haven't bought a QS yet because I'm trying to decide if I want to save 
a little $ (to be spent on some other toy, heh, heh) and settle for a 
QS-7.  My main concern is, can I get as much expressive control from the 
7 as the 8 (particularly for using as a piano)?  (Never played either, in 
fact this is my first foray into a MIDI keyboard.)  I will be using my 
Mac as a sequencer.  Thoughts and opinions appreciated!  (BTW my "studio" 
is 10' x 10' so it's TINY but that's not the most important 
consideration.)  

Thanks!

Kirsten Odegard
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Sun Dec  8 12:20:19 1996
message-id: <ambdbjdo@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Stephen Moorby <SMoorby@SPHERECOM.COM>,
        "'Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card






<<I'm confused.  I thought that the ceramic flash devices were required
for the two slot QS7 and QS8.  Or is there a different solution to the
problem using a plastic rather than a metal case?>>

Don't be confused - the person who posted this owns a QS6.

dB
Alesis

==================================================================
Steve Moorby
e-mail :    smoorby@spherecom.com

>
>
>
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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Sun Dec  8 12:20:17 1996
message-id: <ambdbief@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: ABlanchard@SWRI.EDU, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card






<<I own a QS6...I'm mainly interested in Stereo Piano>>

Our stereo Bosendorfer sample is avaiable on an expansion card for the 
QS6...make sure you get the one called Q-Card, not QuadraCard...the latter is 
for the S4+ and older Quadrasynths.  The newer one was designed to work 
perfectly with the QS6.  $249 retail.

dB
Alesis

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From dbryce@alesis1.usa.com  Sun Dec  8 12:20:31 1996
message-id: <ambdbmeg@alesis1.usa.com>
From: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
Sender: dbryce@alesis1.usa.com (David Bryce)
to: Les Winters <lwinters@midiworld.com>, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re[2]: Samples for 8 meg Flash Card






<<I would welcome any additions, (especially from Mac users, since I use a
PC, and have no access to Macs)>>

If you don't mind spending some money, the program Alchemy by Passport Designs 
will turn most Macs into a more powerful sampler than just about any of them, 
and it allows you to import just about any format of sample.

In addition, I've been using Transfer Station with my Mac (got the 
recommendation from this list, actually)...it cost me $150, and lets me connect 
to the SCSI port of any sampler (no matter which one) and grab 
whatever's loaded into the sampler's memory and download it whilst converting to 
.AIFF - it even lets you grab files off of audio CDs if you have an Apple 300 or 
600 CD-Rom drive.  It'll also read Akai and Roland CD-ROMs.

More info on where to get it...

Interval Music Systems
12335 Santa Monica Blvd. #244
Los Angeles, CA 90025
310-478-3956 voice
310-478-5791 fax
interval@netcom.com
http://www.imuse.com

dB
Alesis

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From RobertREI@aol.com  Sun Dec  8 17:19:49 1996
From: RobertREI@aol.com
Message-ID: <961208171922_1919501996@emout17.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Problems w. Mix





Hello.
     I've been having a problem with some sequences I've been working on.
 Here's what's been happening.  I'm using Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Win
3.1) and the QS8 via the Serial Interface.  I'm also using User Mix 00 -
'Multitmbrl'.  I have the following programmes assigned to the following
channels:

Ch1 - User:  PureStereo
Ch2 - Pre3:  Deep Bass
Ch3 - Pre1:  LA Phil
Ch10 - Pre1:  DM5 Drums
(and the rest the same as the defaults for the mix)

When I enter Mix mode and select User Mix 00 (unmodified) and make the
programme changes manually, everything is fine.  However, when Cakewalk plays
back my sequence, the PureStereo piano sounds really funny, almost
'plasticised'.  Anyway, it doesn't sound like the great piano sound that it's
supposed to.  If I go to programme mode then to mix mode again, everything
sounds like it should again.  But, again, whenever Cakewalk tries to play
back the sequence, I get the wierd sounding piano again.  I even check to
make sure Cakewalk isn't changing the programme, but after the 'sound' of the
piano changes, 'PureStereo' is still on Channel 1.  Does anyone know how to
fix this?  Any help would really be appreciated.  Thanks!!

Peace,
Nate

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From composer@ix.netcom.com  Sun Dec  8 21:55:29 1996
Message-ID: <32AB7EA8.5CA4@ix.netcom.com>
From: Steve Horner <composer@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: composer@ix.netcom.com
Organization: Steve Horner Music, Inc.
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: Rivermoon <rivrmoon@isomedia.com>

Subject: Re: QS-7 vs QS-8
References: <199612080940.BAA01251@isomedia.com>




Rivermoon wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I haven't bought a QS yet because I'm trying to decide if I want to save
> a little $ (to be spent on some other toy, heh, heh) and settle for a
> QS-7.  My main concern is, can I get as much expressive control from the
> 7 as the 8 (particularly for using as a piano)?  (Never played either, in
> fact this is my first foray into a MIDI keyboard.)  I will be using my
> Mac as a sequencer.  Thoughts and opinions appreciated!  (BTW my "studio"
> is 10' x 10' so it's TINY but that's not the most important
> consideration.)
Kirsten,
I own a QS7 and My church has a QS8. The only difference between them is
the keyboard. My personal preference has always been a synth action so I
really like the Qs7 for that reason. If you are more of a piano player
you will probably like the action of the QS8. The action on the QS8 is
fairly light like you might find on a small high quality upright piano.
It's definitely not like that of a Steinway or Bosendorfer. The QS8
ranks at the top of all the "piano action" controllers I've checked out.
Steve Horner
Steve Horner Music, Inc.
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From composer@ix.netcom.com  Sun Dec  8 22:14:23 1996
Message-ID: <32AB8324.383E@ix.netcom.com>
From: Steve Horner <composer@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: composer@ix.netcom.com
Organization: Steve Horner Music, Inc.
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: RobertREI@aol.com

Subject: Re: Problems w. Mix
References: <961208171922_1919501996@emout17.mail.aol.com>




RobertREI@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hello.
>      I've been having a problem with some sequences I've been working on.
>  Here's what's been happening.  I'm using Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Win
> 3.1) and the QS8 via the Serial Interface.  I'm also using User Mix 00 -
> 'Multitmbrl'.  I have the following programmes assigned to the following
> channels:
> 
> Ch1 - User:  PureStereo
> Ch2 - Pre3:  Deep Bass
> Ch3 - Pre1:  LA Phil
> Ch10 - Pre1:  DM5 Drums
> (and the rest the same as the defaults for the mix)
> 
> When I enter Mix mode and select User Mix 00 (unmodified) and make the
> programme changes manually, everything is fine.  However, when Cakewalk plays
> back my sequence, the PureStereo piano sounds really funny, almost
> 'plasticised'.  Anyway, it doesn't sound like the great piano sound that it's
> supposed to.  If I go to programme mode then to mix mode again, everything
> sounds like it should again.  But, again, whenever Cakewalk tries to play
> back the sequence, I get the wierd sounding piano again.  I even check to
> make sure Cakewalk isn't changing the programme, but after the 'sound' of the
> piano changes, 'PureStereo' is still on Channel 1.  Does anyone know how to
> fix this?  Any help would really be appreciated.  Thanks!!
> 
> Peace,
> Nate
> 
Nate,
It sounds like you have a midi loop happening. Here are a few things you
should check. Make sure the Keyboard mode on the QS ( in the global edit
page) is set to "out 1" or any other single channel. You should also
make sure that midi echo in cakewalk is set to auto. If doing these two
things doesn't change anything check your midi data in cakewalk to see
if you are recording duplicate midi events. If you see that every note
has a duplicate you need to recheck your midi routing to see where
you're getting the loop. I realize this last suggestion is a little
vague but it's hard to diagnose a problem like this without a really
detailed description of your setup. I hope this is helpful to you.
Steve Horner
Steve Horner Music, Inc.
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From chchien@stanford.edu  Sun Dec  8 22:25:07 1996
X-Sender: chchien@pobox1
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To: "Quadra-Synth Mailing List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
From: chchien@stanford.edu (Chi-Hua Chien)
Subject: Re: Cases for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)



Hey all,

I've heard some people mention that the QS8 fits in the 76-key SKB case.
Would this be the SKB 5014?    Any comments on this particular model and/or
durability?

And also....is the Velopiano available only on the Grand Piano sound card
or is it in the QS7/8 presets?

Waiting for finals to end so I can get home and try out my new QS8.....=)

peace,

Chi-Hua

At 9:53 PM 12/6/96, Ken Sherman wrote:
>I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level Z726, good for sitting,
>$149. You can have a look at it at
>http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html
>I haven't seen this in person yet. Anybody seen one?
>
>____________________
>ksherm@satsoft.com ||| "When all is said and done, much more is said than
>done"
>
>>       I can see where that would be a problem. I'll have to see if
>> there are any other stands that work well with the QS8. There was a
>> 3-tier stand that Sam Ash was using for the Qs6/7/8's that they had on
>> display, I'll have to get back there and give it a look. It felt sturdy
>> enough for my usual hard playing style, but I'll have to give it the
>> works :) Since I'm going to be waiting for Musician's Friend to get the
>> QS8 in I still have some research time for checking out stands and
>> benches. Thanks for the help.
>>
>
><html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#000000"
>face="Times New Roman">I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level
>Z726, good for sitting, $149. You can have a look at it at
>http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html<br>I haven't seen
>this in person yet. Anybody seen one?<font
>face="Arial"><br><br>____________________<br><font
>color="#0000FF"><u>ksherm@satsoft.com</u><font color="#000000"> |||
>&quot;When all is said and done, much more is said than
>done&quot;<br><br>&gt; &#009;I can see where that would be a problem. I'll
>have to see if <br>&gt; there are any other stands that work well with the
>QS8. There was a <br>&gt; 3-tier stand that Sam Ash was using for the
>Qs6/7/8's that they had on <br>&gt; display, I'll have to get back there
>and give it a look. It felt sturdy <br>&gt; enough for my usual hard
>playing style, but I'll have to give it the <br>&gt; works :) Since I'm
>going to be waiting for Musician's Friend to get the <br>&gt; QS8 in I
>still have some research time for checking out stands and <br>&gt;
>benches. Thanks for the help.<br>&gt; <br><br></p>
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From ksherm@satsoft.com  Sun Dec  8 23:44:43 1996
Message-Id: <199612090444.XAA14991@mail.his.com>
From: "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com>
To: "Quadra-Synth Mailing List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>,
        "Chi-Hua Chien" <chchien@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Cases for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)




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> Hey all,
> 
> I've heard some people mention that the QS8 fits in the 76-key SKB case.
> Would this be the SKB 5014?    Any comments on this particular model
and/or
> durability?
> 
Yes, that's my understanding. I actually ordered the SKB5014, along with a
QS8, about a month ago. I'm still waiting on the QS8, so can't say for sure
whether it fits or not. 

Sure hope I get the keyboard before christmas. The shop I ordered from
supposedly had 4 coming in. But that was a few weeks ago, and they still
haven't showed up. Anybody know where there's a QS8 for sale? There sure
aren't any in the Washington DC area. Mail order would be OK.

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QS8, about a month ago. I'm still waiting on the QS8, so can't say for =
sure whether it fits or not. <br><br>Sure hope I get the keyboard before =
christmas. The shop I ordered from supposedly had 4 coming in. But that =
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From donovan@kcstar.com  Mon Dec  9 01:04:33 1996
Message-Id: <199612090611.AAA09205@kcsg1.kcstar.com>
X-Sender: donovan@mail.kcstar.com
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Me and my big mouth



Well, I sure have gotten my share of personal flames ragging me out over my
opinions on Soundbridge!  : )  Lemme clarify ('cos I didn't aim to make
anyone mad):

Before I buy a new piece of gear, I subscribe to its mailing list and lurk
for a while to see what users think.  I think the strengths of the QS are
that it's a super ROMpler that doesn't waste resources on an internal
sequencer.  It has the best piano I've heard.  Its effects are incredible
too, but hard to program.

But if a salesman tells someone Soundbridge makes the QS as useful as a
sampler, I think that's a gross exaggeration, and close to a lie.
Soundbridge is cool **if** you're willing to deal with the hassles.  I'm
not.  And I've tried.  Maybe some day that will change, but I doubt it'll be
with the same hardware that's available today.

Just my 2 cents.  Feel free to disagree.
D

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From elson@westworld.com  Mon Dec  9 02:21:26 1996
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961209071858.006a11b4@mail.westworld.com>
X-Sender: elson@mail.westworld.com



To: RobertREI@aol.com, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
Subject: Re: Problems w. Mix



At 05.19 PM 12/8/96 -0500, RobertREI@aol.com wrote:
>Hello.
>     I've been having a problem with some sequences I've been working on.
> Here's what's been happening.  I'm using Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Win
>3.1) and the QS8 via the Serial Interface.  I'm also using User Mix 00 -
>'Multitmbrl'.  I have the following programmes assigned to the following
>channels:
>
>Ch1 - User:  PureStereo
>Ch2 - Pre3:  Deep Bass
>Ch3 - Pre1:  LA Phil
>Ch10 - Pre1:  DM5 Drums
>(and the rest the same as the defaults for the mix)

Did you set these from the QS6 or from Cakewalk? Ideally, you should set
these via Cakewalk, because that way you can always keep the QS on "00" and
simply change sounds as the sequence calls for it.

>When I enter Mix mode and select User Mix 00 (unmodified) and make the
>programme changes manually, everything is fine.  However, when Cakewalk plays
>back my sequence, the PureStereo piano sounds really funny, almost
>'plasticised'.   

It's MIDI echo. The solution is:

1. Press "Edit Select"
2. Press "GLOBAL" ("Bank >" button)
3. Press "PAGE >" until you see "KBD MODE:"on the screen.
4. Press "Value" up until you see "Out 01"
5. Go back into "MIX" mode.

This is the setting by which you want to run your QS6 in multitimbral mode.
Notice that you can't play your QS6's sounds unless your seuqnecer is set
up. If you want to play the program sounds, you have to change the KBD mode
to "Normal".

Elson
                                     -30-
========================================== 
Elson Trinidad

Los Angeles, CA, USA                                                     
elson@westworld.com * http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Mon Dec  9 09:20:36 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+cb,fmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Sample Banks?





Hello everyone,
I'm just now learning about samples and how they work. I was trying out 
"AWave" demo version software.  Some of the samples I downloaded were in bank 
format. I'm just guessing here, but does a bank mean that they are a "family" 
which sounds right across the entire dynamic range of a keyboard?  The demo 
version of Awave won't allow you to save or convert an entire bank but the 
registered version will.  Since I know very little about samples and sampling, 
my guess is that the entire bank needs to be loaded on the flash card at once 
in order for the samples to sound right across the entire keyboard.  If I 
totally wrong, please let me know, I need to educated about this subject.  
Also, any good books out there that can help me understand more about samples  
. . . if they should be looped, eq'd, banked . . .etc. let me know.

Thanks-
ABlanchard

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From ksherm@satsoft.com  Mon Dec  9 12:06:36 1996
Message-Id: <199612091706.MAA07422@mail.his.com>
From: "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com>
To: "Greg Stritmater" <senip@j51.com>,
        "Quadra-Synth Mailing List" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Stands for QS8 (was Finally played one ..)




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> > 
> > "Ken Sherman" <ksherm@satsoft.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >I was considering the Quick Lock Systems, 2 level Z726, good for
sitting,
> > >$149. You can have a look at it at
> > >http://www.sweetwater.com/QuickLock/QuickLock_03.html
> > >I haven't seen this in person yet. Anybody seen one?
> > 
> > Yes, I have one--QS+ on the lower level, NordLead above. It's a great
> > stand, absolutely rock solid. The upper tier can be adjusted in
numerous
> > ways. I'm very happy with it.
> > 
> > John Altman
> 
> 
> 	That stand does look pretty nice, but the price at Sweetwater 
> is listed at $186.95. Did you get the other price somewhere else? BTW, 
> has anyone used the QL/642 model? That's a bit cheaper and looks pretty 
> sturdy, even if it is an "X" style stand.
> 
The price quote is from Rich Music 800-795-8493 in Dallas, TX. They do mail
order. Also see http://www.princeton.edu/~casey/newgear.html for pricing
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From rdmg101@york.ac.uk  Mon Dec  9 15:16:20 1996
From: RD Menzies-Gow <rdmg101@york.ac.uk>
To: Quadra-Synth Mailing List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: S4+ EPROM?
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95L.961209201218.11814A-100000@bach.york.ac.uk>





I've only just joined the list after buying an S4 2nd hand in the UK, so
forgive me if this question is totally dead - Is there any way of
(legally..) getting hold of the S4+ EPROM?

Dylan

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
    Dylan Menzies-Gow 
    rdmg101@unix.york.ac.uk 
    http://www.york.ac.uk/~rdmg101
    01904 654327  --- -    __o
    01904 432417  -  ----  \<,
    Music technology    ( )/ ( )
    York University Electronics Dept
    England
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From NONE@sequel.usa.com  Mon Dec  9 19:50:44 1996
message-id: <bdddccea@alesis1.usa.com>
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
to: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com, donovan@KCSTAR.COM






I didn't mean to come off as upset, but I have to deal with a *lot* of 
people who express frustration and negativity without offering any 
information as to help deal with their problems. "It's freaking out" 
"It's just broke" "I can't get it to work" doesn't help me make things 
any better. But, since I represent Alesis I have to be nice while 
people beat me around the face and neck as they vent. Also, there are 
all those sales reps for the other guys lurking about on the net just 
waiting around so they can thrash you.

We love getting feedback from users, but we really love getting useful 
feedback. If you have ideas on how Alesis products and software could 
be better, please let us know. However, things like "you should fix 
the bugs before you add any new features" does not convey anything 
other than a lack of understanding in the development of software. 
Duh. 

Keep in mind that a lot of salesmen really don't know enough about 
what they are selling. I always clarify on the phone that Soundbridge 
is a sample transfer utility and not a sampling application. 

I have forwarded about four suggestions from this trail on to our 
software developers. So something has come of all this. Don't forget 
this is a user's mailing list. We watch to help offer some direction, 
but we are not here to monitor or mediate. You can always fire off an 
email to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com if you have any questions, comments, 
or if you just want to freak out on us. 8)

Adam Brisben
Alesis Tech Support
=======================================
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Me and my big mouth

Well, I sure have gotten my share of personal flames ragging me out 
over my
opinions on Soundbridge!  : )  Lemme clarify ('cos I didn't aim to 
make
anyone mad):

Before I buy a new piece of gear, I subscribe to its mailing list and 
lurk
for a while to see what users think.  I think the strengths of the QS 
are
that it's a super ROMpler that doesn't waste resources on an internal
sequencer.  It has the best piano I've heard.  Its effects are 
incredible
too, but hard to program.

But if a salesman tells someone Soundbridge makes the QS as useful as 
a
sampler, I think that's a gross exaggeration, and close to a lie.
Soundbridge is cool **if** you're willing to deal with the hassles.  
I'm
not.  And I've tried.  Maybe some day that will change, but I doubt 
it'll be
with the same hardware that's available today.

Just my 2 cents.  Feel free to disagree.
D


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From nelson@zso.dec.com  Mon Dec  9 21:15:50 1996
Message-Id: <c=US%a=_%p=Digital%l=NTMAIL2-961210020923Z-47@ntmail4.zso.dec.com>
From: Eric Nelson <nelson@zso.dec.com>
To: "'QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        "'abrisben@alesis1.usa.com'" <abrisben@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: RE: 
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Encoding: 93 TEXT





>> email to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com if you have any questions, comments, 
>> or if you just want to freak out on us. 8)

Are you sure that isn't just a black hole ??

I sent a question to that address about problems I was having using the
latest version of Sound Bridge for Windows where I would compile samples
in the "drum" group and they never showed up in the QS+.

I spent an hour or so describing the problem in glorious detail and
listing my hardware configuration.

I got an initial response back that my question had been forwarded to
one of the SoundBridge Software Engineers, but it's been several months
now and I haven't received _any_ response yet...

Got to keep the fire burning,
__E

>----------
>From: 	abrisben@alesis1.usa.com[SMTP:abrisben@alesis1.usa.com]
>Sent: 	Monday, December 09, 1996 4:50 PM
>To: 	QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com; donovan@KCSTAR.COM
>
>I didn't mean to come off as upset, but I have to deal with a *lot* of 
>people who express frustration and negativity without offering any 
>information as to help deal with their problems. "It's freaking out" 
>"It's just broke" "I can't get it to work" doesn't help me make things 
>any better. But, since I represent Alesis I have to be nice while 
>people beat me around the face and neck as they vent. Also, there are 
>all those sales reps for the other guys lurking about on the net just 
>waiting around so they can thrash you.
>
>We love getting feedback from users, but we really love getting useful 
>feedback. If you have ideas on how Alesis products and software could 
>be better, please let us know. However, things like "you should fix 
>the bugs before you add any new features" does not convey anything 
>other than a lack of understanding in the development of software. 
>Duh. 
>
>Keep in mind that a lot of salesmen really don't know enough about 
>what they are selling. I always clarify on the phone that Soundbridge 
>is a sample transfer utility and not a sampling application. 
>
>I have forwarded about four suggestions from this trail on to our 
>software developers. So something has come of all this. Don't forget 
>this is a user's mailing list. We watch to help offer some direction, 
>but we are not here to monitor or mediate. You can always fire off an 
>email to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com if you have any questions, comments, 
>or if you just want to freak out on us. 8)
>
>Adam Brisben
>Alesis Tech Support
>=======================================
>From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
>Subject: Me and my big mouth
>
>Well, I sure have gotten my share of personal flames ragging me out 
>over my
>opinions on Soundbridge!  : )  Lemme clarify ('cos I didn't aim to 
>make
>anyone mad):
>
>Before I buy a new piece of gear, I subscribe to its mailing list and 
>lurk
>for a while to see what users think.  I think the strengths of the QS 
>are
>that it's a super ROMpler that doesn't waste resources on an internal
>sequencer.  It has the best piano I've heard.  Its effects are 
>incredible
>too, but hard to program.
>
>But if a salesman tells someone Soundbridge makes the QS as useful as 
>a
>sampler, I think that's a gross exaggeration, and close to a lie.
>Soundbridge is cool **if** you're willing to deal with the hassles.  
>I'm
>not.  And I've tried.  Maybe some day that will change, but I doubt 
>it'll be
>with the same hardware that's available today.
>
>Just my 2 cents.  Feel free to disagree.
>D
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________
>
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From brentp@u.washington.edu  Tue Dec 10 02:32:29 1996
From: B Plump <brentp@u.washington.edu>
To: "'QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>,
        "'abrisben@alesis1.usa.com'" <abrisben@alesis1.usa.com>
Subject: Drum samples, soundbridge and the QS+????
In-Reply-To: <c=US%a=_%p=Digital%l=NTMAIL2-961210020923Z-47@ntmail4.zso.dec.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961209232015.5276E-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu>





Hi all,

I've also sent email to Alesis.  Fortunately, I've gotten some decent
replies, but I flipped out when I saw this message:

On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Eric Nelson wrote:

> I sent a question to that address about problems I was having using the
> latest version of Sound Bridge for Windows where I would compile samples
> in the "drum" group and they never showed up in the QS+.

I'm having the _exact_ same problem.  Unlike you, I'm using SoundBridge
for the Mac.  I'm 99.9999% sure that I'm doing everything right (I can
see as the samples are sent to the card, but drum group samples don't show
up in drum mode.  However, they show up fine in normal mode if I send them
as normal samples).  Oddly enough, I have no problem getting drum
samples to show up from my pop music card.  Is there anyone else who's
having this problem? 

I've finally given up and I'm going to take the thing in to a service
center.

-- Brent

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From timdavis@megadisq.com  Tue Dec 10 09:56:47 1996
Message-Id: <199612101454.IAA27238@ultra.qni.com>
From: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
To: "Adam Brisben" <abrisben@alesis1.usa.com>,
        <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>, <donovan@KCSTAR.COM>
Subject: Re: None








Adam,

Here is my suggestion. Add the capability to store more than one bank on a
Flash  card. If I don't need intend to store samples there is plenty of
room for at least for banks of programs.

Tim Davis

----------
> From: Adam Brisben <abrisben@alesis1.usa.com>
> To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com; donovan@KCSTAR.COM
> Subject: None
> Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 6:50 PM
> 
> I didn't mean to come off as upset, but I have to deal with a *lot* of 
> people who express frustration and negativity without offering any 
> information as to help deal with their problems. "It's freaking out" 
> "It's just broke" "I can't get it to work" doesn't help me make things 
> any better. But, since I represent Alesis I have to be nice while 
> people beat me around the face and neck as they vent. Also, there are 
> all those sales reps for the other guys lurking about on the net just 
> waiting around so they can thrash you.
> 
> We love getting feedback from users, but we really love getting useful 
> feedback. If you have ideas on how Alesis products and software could 
> be better, please let us know. However, things like "you should fix 
> the bugs before you add any new features" does not convey anything 
> other than a lack of understanding in the development of software. 
> Duh. 
> 
> Keep in mind that a lot of salesmen really don't know enough about 
> what they are selling. I always clarify on the phone that Soundbridge 
> is a sample transfer utility and not a sampling application. 
> 
> I have forwarded about four suggestions from this trail on to our 
> software developers. So something has come of all this. Don't forget 
> this is a user's mailing list. We watch to help offer some direction, 
> but we are not here to monitor or mediate. You can always fire off an 
> email to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com if you have any questions, comments, 
> or if you just want to freak out on us. 8)
> 
> Adam Brisben
> Alesis Tech Support
> =======================================
> From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
> Subject: Me and my big mouth
> 
> Well, I sure have gotten my share of personal flames ragging me out 
> over my
> opinions on Soundbridge!  : )  Lemme clarify ('cos I didn't aim to 
> make
> anyone mad):
> 
> Before I buy a new piece of gear, I subscribe to its mailing list and 
> lurk
> for a while to see what users think.  I think the strengths of the QS 
> are
> that it's a super ROMpler that doesn't waste resources on an internal
> sequencer.  It has the best piano I've heard.  Its effects are 
> incredible
> too, but hard to program.
> 
> But if a salesman tells someone Soundbridge makes the QS as useful as 
> a
> sampler, I think that's a gross exaggeration, and close to a lie.
> Soundbridge is cool **if** you're willing to deal with the hassles.  
> I'm
> not.  And I've tried.  Maybe some day that will change, but I doubt 
> it'll be
> with the same hardware that's available today.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.  Feel free to disagree.
> D
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
> 
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From marc.wright@hydro.on.ca  Tue Dec 10 10:58:10 1996
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From: WRIGHT Marc  -OH SHRD SRVC <marc.wright@hydro.on.ca>
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Subject: [Q:] Beginner needs general advice on learning
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Hi! My name is Marc and on Dec 9th I became the proud father of a
bouncing,
baby QS6.

My background (musically) is pretty varied. I have a several years of
music
theory under da gut but no real piano or synth mileage to talk of.

I compose, arrange and perform (vocally). I hear the music **I** want to
make
"inside" me (heavy stuff dude!). I just want to extend the vibe through
an 
instrument. I chose the synth because I have always wanted to play
'boards.

The music I am currently involved with are collages and mosaics of R&B,
POP and Reggae. I enjoy Classical pieces but have never played any.

Where should I start!!!??? I have the kit but need direction! Please
help!

Marc A. Wright
Toronto Canada
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From NONE@sequel.usa.com  Tue Dec 10 16:16:24 1996
message-id: <baamaofi@alesis1.usa.com>
From: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
Sender: abrisben@alesis1.usa.com (Adam Brisben)
to: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com






My apologies, I simply meant that you have to provide more 
information, which I have yet to receive. As a software Engineer, you 
should know that your beta feedback can't be vague. You are more than 
welcome to submit your findings/opinions to the author of the software 
and have always been able to. 

Alesis Sales and Marketing never claimed Soundbridge was a sampling 
application. It is a sampling utility. Any other claims of the 
salesmen are wrong and are misinterpretations. We do the best to train 
dealers' sales people on Alesis products and even offer a classes in 
Alesis University on our entire product line to better inform sales 
people. 

Our Keyboard Sales are doing just fine, thank you. Should you decide 
to write your own Soundbridge, you will have to contact our Licensing 
Department. None of this was meant as a flame out, but simply that if 
you want help from tech support, or anyone, you have to cooperate.

Thanks and enjoy,
Adam

===============

One of our Sound Developers has a site where users may download 
Soundbridge 
1.0, Mac version 2.0, and IBM version 1.2. The site is at 
http://www.mok.com/bridge. 

Bugs may be reported at bridge@mok.com.


______________________________ Reply Separator 
_________________________________
Subject: RE:
Author:  mail@ih (Joe Chavez) {joec@filenet.com} at MHS 
Date:    12/10/96 9:39 AM


Adam,
I decided to take this one offline... the rest of the list please 
read, 
no reply needed.
You are so incorrect about my lack of understanding about the nature 
of 
software development. I am a Software Engineer and have been in the 
field for 12 years. I know to well the pitfalls of software 
development 
vs. getting a product to market. If Soundbridge has a sampling 
capability well then a group of users will view it as sampling 
software 
package and try to use it as such. Many times engineering will add a 
feature that is not the real focus of the product (i.e. sampling vs. 
simple transfer) and fail to realize that when the product is shipped 
small features sometimes morph into big features (sampling is much 
more 
interesting than simple transfer). It is more often than not that 
marketing or sales will determine what features will sell a product 
(as 
dictated by what the market(user) wants) which complicates matters 
even 
more. Because the user receives the product based on marketing and 
sales 
the expect to use the most exposed features (and have them work 
correctly). In my opinion Soundbridge is a toy and not very well 
engineered. I have even toyed with the idea of designing and 
implementing my own version, but frankly the potential market is not 
large enought to justify investment/profit equation.
-Joe

P.S. The original reason I made my comment was to spur other list 
member 
to add theirs, nothing like a flame war to bring out the opinions.


>----------
>From:    abrisben@alesis1.usa.com[SMTP:abrisben@alesis1.usa.com] 
>Sent:    Monday, December 09, 1996 4:50 PM
>To:      QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com; donovan@KCSTAR.COM 

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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Tue Dec 10 16:44:13 1996
Message-ID: <32AE0353.F6B@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS+, Cakewalk, and MQX-32M...need help!




I hope I can adequately describe what's happening here.

I use Cakewalk Pro on my PC with a Music Quest MQX32M (2-port) MIDI
interface.
I use my QS+ as the master keyboard.  I also use a Korg 01/w, and
several sound modules, effects units, etcetera.  I have my QS+ GLOBAL
MODE set to "OUT 16".

I simply click on the Cakewalk track I want, and when I play the QS+
keyboard, the MIDI events get routed to the proper track (channel), and
every thing works great.

Except controllers.  I noticed, for instance, that if I have some
pitch-bend controllers on, say, Track 3 (MIDI channel 3).  I open the
Edit Controllers window for that track, and there's nothing there. 
However, if I choose Edit Controllers, then choose Track 3, Channel 16,
the controller data is there.  This means my pedal and wheel info is all
getting recorded to channel 16, instead of the channel defined for the
track itself.

I chose OUT 16 on the QS+ because it seemed to work, and I figured I'd
just stay away from using channel 16 in Cakewalk.  What should I have
set it to?

This is a rather confusing problem, and I hope I communicated it ok.  If
anyone thinks they can help, I could try to give more detail.

Thanks!



-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/~mitchb2/
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Tue Dec 10 16:55:54 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+6jRfmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Sample Banks





Hello everyone,

I'm just now learning about samples and how they work. I was trying out 
"AWave" demo version software.  Some of the samples I downloaded were in bank 
format. I'm just guessing here, but does a bank mean that they are a "family" 
which sounds right across the entire dynamic range of a keyboard?  The demo 
version of Awave won't allow you to save or convert an entire bank but the 
registered version will.  Since I know very little about samples and sampling, 
does the entire bank need to be loaded on the flash card at once in order for 
the samples to sound right across the entire keyboard.  If I totally wrong, 
please let me know, I need to educated about this subject.  Also, any good 
books out there that can help me understand more about samples  . . . if they 
should be looped, eq'd, banked . . .etc. let me know.

Thanks-
ABlanchard

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From james@innocon.com  Tue Dec 10 17:10:02 1996
From: "Michael D. James" <james@innocon.com>
Message-Id: <199612102200.RAA15901@krusty.innocon.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
In-reply-to: Eric Nelson's message of Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:15:50 -0500 (EST) <c=US%a=_%p=Digital%l=NTMAIL2-961210020923Z-47@ntmail4.zso.dec.com>
Subject: Alesis bashing
Reply-to: james@innocon.com





> >> email to Alecorp@alesis1.usa.com if you have any questions, comments, 
> >> or if you just want to freak out on us. 8)
>
> Are you sure that isn't just a black hole ??

I can't speak for anyone else's situation, but I HAVE gotten technical
help about the QuadraSynth via E-Mail from Alesis.  

Also, when I was shopping for a rack unit months ago, the Alesis rep
who works the Northern Virginia area (sorry I forgot his name) gave me
an objective explanation of the Quadrasynth's capabilities and
limitations as compared to the Akai S2000 sampler I was also
considering buying.  The fact that the Alesis rep was so knowledgeable
and candid, and the fact that this user-sponsored QuadraSynth-List
exists, and the fact that Alesis personnel like David Bryce answer
questions on the QuadraSynth-List influenced my decision to buy the QS
S4+.  Up until that point, the only Alesis product I owned was an
SR-16 drum machine (which has never disappointed me either).

My most recent experience with Alesis tech support was after I bought
a Matica 900 power amplifier from a local discounter for WAY less than
list price.  I noticed some noise in the sound after taking it to the
band house.  Upon closer inspection (our band's guitar player and I
are both engineers), it appeared the amplifier had been used for many
hours as a demo unit and sloppily repaired at some point in its life.
The store salesman offered to fix the amp and implied that his store
was an authorized Alesis warranty center.  I suspected he was lying,
so I called the Alesis warranty number.  Whoever I talked to (sorry,
can't remember that name either, but thanks!) at Alesis confirmed that
this store was not an authorized warranty center and offered to take
over the whole problem for me.

At this point I decided the extra headroom and the clipping-eliminator
feature of the Carver 1400 amp was more important to our rock'n'roll
band than the (potential) extra fidelity of the Alesis Matica 900 amp,
so I made the store eat it.  I'm sure the 50 pound Matica is a fine
product when it hasn't been butchered by some unauthorized hack with a
soldering iron.

Around the same time, I was having some problems with two of the JBL
bass cabinets I bought.  JBL makes great speakers, but getting help
from them on the phone required waiting on hold for nearly an hour!
JBL could learn a lot about customer service from Alesis.

                      Michael James
                      Arlington, VA
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From composer@ix.netcom.com  Tue Dec 10 18:54:17 1996
Message-ID: <32ADF7F2.4DE@ix.netcom.com>
From: Steve Horner <composer@ix.netcom.com>
Reply-To: composer@ix.netcom.com
Organization: Steve Horner Music, Inc.
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)

To: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: QS+, Cakewalk, and MQX-32M...need help!
References: <32AE0353.F6B@ix.netcom.com>




Mitch wrote:

>Except controllers.  I noticed, for instance, that if I have some
> pitch-bend controllers on, say, Track 3 (MIDI channel 3).  I open the
> Edit Controllers window for that track, and there's nothing there.
> However, if I choose Edit Controllers, then choose Track 3, Channel 16,
> the controller data is there.  This means my pedal and wheel info is all
> getting recorded to channel 16, instead of the channel defined for the

Mitch,
That's the way it works in cakewalk. If you're sending your midi
messages on channel 16 cakewalk will record all the controller data on
that channel.
You could change channels on your QS+ to match the channel you're
recording on. I realize it's kind of a pain to have to switch to a
seperate controller channel but to the best of my knowledge there isn't
any way around this. If anyone out there can prove me wrong I would
welcome it.
Steve Horner
Steve Horner Music, Inc.
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From rivrmoon@isomedia.com  Tue Dec 10 20:24:49 1996
Message-Id: <199612110123.RAA14065@isomedia.com>
Subject: QS8 & sequencing progs

From: Rivermoon <rivrmoon@isomedia.com>
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>





Hi again everyone.

Thanks to those who have shared their thoughts on my previous question 
re: the pros and cons of keyboard action on the QS7 and QS8.

I have another question...

I still haven't 100% decided which I'm going to choose, but when I do, I 
understand that on the CD (assuming it's shipping) is some kind of 
sequencing software.  I've read quite a bit about Opcode Vision and 
Studio Vision Pro, which both sound excellent, but I don't know diddly 
about what Alesis includes on the CD.  I want as many options and as much 
creative control as possible.  Should I plan to get 3rd party sequencing 
software right off the bat with the keyboard or will the Alesis sequencer 
be sufficient for a month or so...I ask this part because this is going 
to be my MIDI classroom as well as a needed tool.  But I am a very fast 
learner so I'd rather go from 0 to 60 in a few days than a few weeks, if 
it comes down to that.  I just need to figure out what my budget is going 
to look like since Vision is, even at the student rate, $250 and I'll be 
near maxed out for six months just getting the keyboard.  I may also have 
to plunk down for a Mackie 1402VLZ for submixing.  Help!

Thanks,

Kirsten Odegard
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From ACaron7747@aol.com  Tue Dec 10 20:50:40 1996
From: ACaron7747@aol.com
Message-ID: <961210205006_640420529@emout19.mail.aol.com>
To: timdavis@megadisq.com, abrisben@alesis1.usa.com,
        QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com, donovan@kcstar.com
Subject: Re: None





 I too would like to be able to store many (at least 4) program banks on a
PCMCIA card, along with new samples. One bank is definitely not enough
Thanks Antoine W. Caron
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From mla@hu.bonus.com  Wed Dec 11 04:14:15 1996
Message-ID: <32AE7B51.2A6A@hu.bonus.com>
From: Laszlo Molnar <mla@hu.bonus.com>
Reply-To: mla@hu.bonus.com
Organization: ?
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)

To: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: QS+, Cakewalk, and MQX-32M...need help!
References: <32AE0353.F6B@ix.netcom.com>




Hi Mitch, 

Yes, this is a bug in Cakewalk (I assume you use CW 3.0).
You can view all of your "lost" controllers if you select Track 1.
This method is rather annoying, but I don't know any workaround for this 
problem.


Regards, 
	Laszlo Molnar from Hungary
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From chrised@chrised.compulink.co.uk  Wed Dec 11 06:27:56 1996
Message-ID: <32AE9AE6.4BAE@chrised.compulink.co.uk>
From: Chris Edwards <chrised@chrised.compulink.co.uk>


To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS+, Cakewalk, and MQX-32M...need help!
References: <32AE0353.F6B@ix.netcom.com>




Mitch,

I don't think it's a bug as such in Cakewalk; it seems that someone
simply took the decision not to rechannelise incoming MIDI data to
whichever channel the output is routed to. If you look at the event
list, you will find that the notes are also assigned to the source
channel not the output.

When you pick the piano roll view, you are asking for a Cakewalk track
not the MIDI channel. In the controllers view you get the choice of 16
MIDI channels for each track which can make life a little tricky if you
are using a number of controllers feeding into one sequencer.

I typically use a VL7 and a VFX as master keyboard controllers with the
knobs from an S4+ and a Basstation for analogue-style twiddling. The
result is that the controller data ends up everywhere but it does not
generally cause a problem with Cakewalk even if you have information for
the same controller coming from more than one source, although you will
almost certainly get zipper effects on the target synth if the data
conflicts. Cakewalk is bright enough to map everything on a track to
what the output has been set to.

This has the advantage of making it very easy to swap ports and channels
for a given track. If you need to see where controllers are coming from,
the event list view will show which channels they were sent on
originally. Also, I think that there is a menu option to rechannelise
data if you want to. If it isn't, then I am pretty sure that there is a
CAL program to do the job that I have downloaded from Compuserve.

I haven't updated from v.3 to v.5 yet, but I think the same applies to
any version of Cakewalk since v.3.

Hope this helps

Chris Edwards
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From rodseth@shell.wco.com  Wed Dec 11 13:42:06 1996
Message-Id: <199612111842.KAA28566@scv2.apple.com>
Subject: QS8 Disappointment
x-sender: rodseth@mail.wco.com
From: rodseth <rodseth@wco.com>
To: <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>





Well, after months of excited anticipation, my QS8 arrived yesterday, and 
wouldn't you know it, I found a problem in the keyboard: the G below 
middle C does not respond to soft playing. 

This does not inspire confidence! The mail order dealer had even checked 
it out, but I guess it was subtle enough that he missed it. 

Could this be the bunched felt problem I read about earlier? I need to 
decide between:

1) Taking it to the repair center (4 x 1.5 hours drive)
2) Sending it back to the dealer, and waiting who knows how long for 
another unit
3) Sending it back to the dealer, and buying something else. 

Any words of advice, encouragement or commiseration appreciated.

Thanks, 

Richard



        "It's no use prevaricating about the bush"
                - Wallace, in "The Wrong Trousers"

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From dirkvr@bart.nl  Wed Dec 11 13:49:24 1996
Message-ID: <32AF02AA.3022@bart.nl>
From: dirk van rumpt <dirkvr@bart.nl>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)

To: QS <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: card vs. harddisk




Hello all,

A stupid question perhaps, but do I really need a PCMCIA card to load
samples into my QS6? If yes, why?
Or is there another way to do this (sysex???).

Dirk
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From sbancroft@molsci.com  Wed Dec 11 15:05:21 1996
Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961211203421.00686658@molsci.com>
X-Sender: "Sara Bancroft" <sbancroft@molsci.com>



To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: "Sara Bancroft" <sbancroft@molsci.com>
Subject: QS+ Response to softplaying



        I read Richard's comment about his QS8 not responding to soft
"sensitivity" buttons starting from G below middle C.  You know, I have
wondered the same about my QS+.  The Right hand seems to be drowning out the
left.  I thought it was just my ears. Has anyone else with a QS+ had this
problem?

Thanks
Sara B.

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From GabitzscKW@gvlmailrtr.gvl.esys.com  Wed Dec 11 15:15:08 1996
Message-Id: <c=US%a=_%p=esys%l=ESYS/GVL/0001865E@gvlmailrtr.gvl.esys.com>
From: "Gabitzsch, KW Kurt (6904)" <GabitzscKW@gvlmailrtr.gvl.esys.com>
To: "QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: FS: Cakewalk Pro Audio 5.0
X-Mailer:  Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63





Latest CD version of Cakewalk Pro Audio version 5.0 software - never
used  - $245 + shipping

Contact Kurt at 903-454-4310 (no email please - will be off line until
next year)
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From rds@zk3.dec.com  Wed Dec 11 15:50:18 1996
Sender: rds@zk3.dec.com
Message-Id: <32AF1372.31DF@zk3.dec.com>
From: Rick Schofield <rds@zk3.dec.com>
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To: MUS - Quadrasynth List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: value of slider #4 preserved across program changes?




Hi all,

[I'm a new QS7 owner and new to this list so I haven't been lurking
very long.  If this has been answered elsewhere, please just point
me there...]

  When auditioning programs and mixes, I noticed that the 4th slider
seems to be customarily mapped to delay/reverb (at least for the 
progs/mixes I've tried so far).  My concern is that when the slider
is, for example, at 50% and I change programs, the new program doesn't
seem to "read" the value of the slider.  If I move the slider, even
a little, the slider is read properly and the reverb/delay is applied
to the output.  I'm not 100% certain, but I think the same holds
true for the other 3 controller/sliders.  What gives?  Can this be
the planned behavior?  If so, I consider it a problem.  If I want to
dial in (slide-up?) a certain amount of delay/reverb when playing
a tune, and then need to switch to a different mix during the song,
I can't be reaching over to tap the sliders to get my reverb back,
y'know?

   So if I need to RTFM, just tell me so.  Or if this is a problem,
does anyone have a workaround?  The unit is just a few days old from
Musician's Friend, so I'm assuming the firmware is up-to-date, but I
don't know the rev offhand.

	R

--- 
Rick Schofield |     MLS+ Development       | Look for the Rodeo Clowns
rds@zk3.dec.com| 603-881-0116 (DTN 381-0116)| playing the best in New
rds@rds.mv.com |   Digital Equipment Corp.  | Country dance music in 
Temple, NH     |        Nashua, NH          | south NH & north MA!!!!
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From DuaneOD@atlantis-bbs.com  Thu Dec 12 01:09:34 1996
Message-Id: <199612120609.BAA20068@www14.clever.net>
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: effects & splits
From: "Duane O'Donnell" <DuaneOD@atlantis-bbs.com>
X-Mailer: Ant-Mail Version 0.7.9 (Atari) 





Maybe it's old age, but I forgot how to do this and lost my notes from
the last time I did it.

When I do a split on my vintage QS, how do I turn off the effect on
half of the split?  In particular, with organ on the right hand, and
bass on the left, how do I turn off the lezlie on the bass?

Thanks

Duane O'D

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From lpf004@email.mot.com  Thu Dec 12 09:02:18 1996
Message-Id: <32AFCA18.5047@email.mot.com>
From: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K)

To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Panning
X-Url: http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_main.htm




Seasons Greetings,

Quick question... It appears that I only have 3 pan positions avaliable for midi control for my s4+,
full left, full right or dead center. Can this be? I try lots of different settings with my sequencer 
to no avail on controller 10. Whether I set it to 0 or say 30, it still pans full left. If this is 
so, it is a severe limitation. Hopefully I'm just doing something wrong, right???

Bewildered in Boston,
Paul Fazzina   lpf004@email.mot.com
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From dwh2000@flash.net  Thu Dec 12 10:05:36 1996
Message-ID: <32AFA360.1987@flash.net>
From: dwh2000 <dwh2000@flash.net>
Reply-To: dwh2000@flash.net
Organization: Flash Net Communications


To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: stuck notes




Almost everytime I play my new QS6 I get a stuck note that will only
stop if I turn off the synth. If I turn off the synth with my sequencer
running (Freestyle w/ a standard interface) then I can't get Midi I/O
until I restart the computer. Also on a lot of programs the control A
adds a ton of zipper noise with no other effect to the sound. Will these
problems be remedied if I get the 2.0 upgrade chip?
     I am a first time synthesist and I found the manual to be pretty
confusing, which is not the case with the rest of my Alesis gear. 
Thanks.
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Thu Dec 12 11:09:20 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+1d0gmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Sample Companies





Happy Holidays-

Anyone ever buy samples from EAST WEST or VOICE CRYSTAL or OTHERS COMPANIES 
that may  have any comments please respond.  The BIG question here is . . . 
Are they worth paying $99 - $200 !!!?  Are they that good?  I am particulary 
in interested in Piano, Strings and Organ.  If you have any suggestions on 
which CD to purchase let me know.  If  I were to purchase one, which format 
should I order and from what Company?  Since almost all these CD's are not WAV 
format is Sample Cell the best alternative format?

Thanks- Ablanchard
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From vergil@midusa.net  Thu Dec 12 13:28:49 1996
Message-ID: <32B05077.2542@midusa.net>
From: Chris <vergil@midusa.net>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)

To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: QS7 & Cubase Lite




First, a bit of background. The dealer I bought my QS7 from lent me an
extra copy they had of the QS6 cd-rom until the QS7 disk ships so I
could get some sequencing done. I am now using Cubase Lite.

I am working on a piece (using the multitimbral mix) that starts out
with channel one set to TrueStereo (bank 1, Program 1 (actually program
00, but cubase numbers from 1)). I am trying to use Ooh Choir (Preset 1,
Program 83(?) on the second channel), but no matter what bank I set the
track to in cubase I keep getting PavlovsDog (bank user (5), 83). Is
this a incompatibility between Cubase Lite (which may have been set up
on the CD-ROM for the QS6) or something that I need to set up with
cubase or with the keyboard? 

Further, would my purposes be better served by getting a better piece of
software, such as Cakewalk? I am toying with the idea, but I am far
enough into this project that if I switch software, it would need to be
soon or else I'd miss my date just trying to manage software and file
formats. 

Further info - 
Keyboard QS7, v1.01 ROM
486DX2/50, Win95, 20mb RAM, 800mb HDD
SB Pro w/midi interface etc.
Cubase Lite ala QS6 CD-ROM (installed on HDD though)

Thanks in advance,

Christopher Wall
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From timdavis@megadisq.com  Thu Dec 12 13:29:39 1996
Message-Id: <199612121820.MAA09546@ultra.qni.com>
From: "Timothy G. Davis" <timdavis@megadisq.com>
To: <dwh2000@flash.net>, <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: stuck notes








What version of windows are you using?

Are you using the serial interface or midi?

Tim Davis

----------
> From: dwh2000 <dwh2000@flash.net>
> To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
> Subject: stuck notes
> Date: Thursday, December 12, 1996 9:05 AM
> 
> Almost everytime I play my new QS6 I get a stuck note that will only
> stop if I turn off the synth. If I turn off the synth with my sequencer
> running (Freestyle w/ a standard interface) then I can't get Midi I/O
> until I restart the computer. Also on a lot of programs the control A
> adds a ton of zipper noise with no other effect to the sound. Will these
> problems be remedied if I get the 2.0 upgrade chip?
>      I am a first time synthesist and I found the manual to be pretty
> confusing, which is not the case with the rest of my Alesis gear. 
> Thanks.
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________
> 
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From progmon@eden.com  Thu Dec 12 15:15:13 1996
Message-ID: <32B06760.B5@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
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To: ABlanchard@swri.edu

Subject: Re: Sample Companies
References: <vines.ff06+1d0gmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>




ABlanchard@swri.edu wrote:
> 
> Happy Holidays-
> 
> Anyone ever buy samples from EAST WEST or VOICE CRYSTAL or OTHERS COMPANIES
> that may  have any comments please respond.  The BIG question here is . . .
> Are they worth paying $99 - $200 !!!?  Are they that good?  I am particulary
> in interested in Piano, Strings and Organ.  If you have any suggestions on
> which CD to purchase let me know.  If  I were to purchase one, which format
> should I order and from what Company?  Since almost all these CD's are not WAV
> format is Sample Cell the best alternative format?
> 

Most of the 100 buck CDs are Audio CDS.  Piano, strings and Orgs are the
hardest as each sound will need several matching samples accross the
keyboard.  If you've ever tried this, you will quickly appreciate how
great the samples are in the qs series.

Find yourself a store with one of those EAST/WEST jukeboxs.  Quality
varies widely, but some are excellent.

> Thanks- Ablanchard
> __________________________________________________________________

  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
_________________________visit my page_______________________________
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From dirkvr@bart.nl  Thu Dec 12 15:24:57 1996
Message-ID: <32B06A94.379@bart.nl>
From: dirk van rumpt <dirkvr@bart.nl>
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To: Chris <vergil@midusa.net>

Subject: Re: QS7 & Cubase Lite
References: <32B05077.2542@midusa.net>




Chris wrote:
> 
> First, a bit of background. The dealer I bought my QS7 from lent me an
> extra copy they had of the QS6 cd-rom until the QS7 disk ships so I
> could get some sequencing done. I am now using Cubase Lite.
> 
> I am working on a piece (using the multitimbral mix) that starts out
> with channel one set to TrueStereo (bank 1, Program 1 (actually program
> 00, but cubase numbers from 1)). I am trying to use Ooh Choir (Preset 1,
> Program 83(?) on the second channel), but no matter what bank I set the
> track to in cubase I keep getting PavlovsDog (bank user (5), 83). Is
> this a incompatibility between Cubase Lite (which may have been set up
> on the CD-ROM for the QS6) or something that I need to set up with
> cubase or with the keyboard?
> 
I had the same problem more or less. But for preset 1 I use bank 128 and
program 83.
- preset 2 = bank 256
- preset 3 = bank 384
- gm       = bank 512

I must say I use the Cubase Standard, but I don't think it matters what
version of Cubase you use.

Greets,

Dirk
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From stu950161@boaz.gcc.edu  Thu Dec 12 21:57:45 1996
From: stu950161@boaz.gcc.edu
Message-Id: <96121221522565@boaz.gcc.edu>
To: QUADRASYNTH-LIST@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: System Exclusive QS6
X-VMS-To: QUADRASYNTH-LIST@MIDIWORLD.COM





I currently am using Cakewalk 3.0 with Windows 95 and I can 
not save my user bank on my QS6.  I start the dump, and 
everything is fine, but Cakewalk proceeds to prompt an "Out 
of Memory Error" at the end of the dump.  I contacted Les 
Winters, and he told me to set the buffer sizes in the Cakewalk files 
since I have sufficient memory installed on my computer.  
Any suggestions on the actual numeric value for the sizes? 
Or any other suggestions to solve my problem?
                                             Frank 
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From bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca  Fri Dec 13 00:43:01 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: bforsyth@intergate.bc.ca (Robert Forsyth)
Subject: How's that, Sonny?



Here is a good question for ya................

Anyone out there an old Atari/Cubase 3.01 user?
I would like to here from you if you were and are now using another(windoze)
sequencing package............how does it compare, is it as quik(is it pretty)?

Cubase Audio would be a real nice comparison(wink wink, nudge nudge)

Thanks
Bob

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From rds@zk3.dec.com  Fri Dec 13 08:37:14 1996
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From: Rick Schofield <rds@zk3.dec.com>
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To: MUS - Quadrasynth List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: serial cable pinout?




Has anyone got the pinout for the serial-to-QS7 cable?  For various
reasons having nothing to do with Alesis, I'm considering building
my own.  I've checked the Compuserve archives on the QSWEB page, and
came up dry.

Also, does anyone know what Alesis is charging for the cable?  If I
decided to buy theirs, how would I go about ordering it?  How long is
the cable?  Are there any other sources for it besides Alesis?

	Rick
-- 
Rick Schofield |     MLS+ Development       | Look for the Rodeo Clowns
rds@zk3.dec.com| 603-881-0116 (DTN 381-0116)| playing the best in New
rds@rds.mv.com |   Digital Equipment Corp.  | Country dance music in 
Temple, NH     |        Nashua, NH          | south NH & north MA!!!!
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Fri Dec 13 09:21:02 1996
From: ABlanchard@swri.edu
Message-ID: <vines.ff06+s6KgmB@d26vs046d.ccf.swri.edu>
 (Normal)
To: <QUADRASYNTH-LIST@midiworld.com>
Subject: Calkwalk vs Digital Orch.





 I am now using Digital Orchestrator Plus and am getting more accomplished.  
My problem with Calkwalk was not with it's capabilities but with its interface 
performance.  When using Win 3.1 or 95' and the latest ver. Pro Audio or even 
earlier versions, my mouse cursor would keep "bouncing" off certain areas of 
the interface screen sort of like how a magnet of equal poles respond.  You 
know what I mean, they "bounce" off or "push away" from eachother.  Anyway I 
could no longer tollerate that, even after calling Twelve-Tone Systems twice 
and reporting this and trying another mouse with no luck.  If anyone has come 
across this problem and can resolve it please let me know.  Although if you 
have not tried Digital Orchestrator Plus its worth trying.  I find it very 
user friendly and easy to use.

Later . . . ABlanchard
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From marc.wright@hydro.on.ca  Fri Dec 13 11:40:37 1996
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From: WRIGHT Marc  -OH SHRD SRVC <marc.wright@hydro.on.ca>
To: "'Rick Schofield'" <rds@zk3.dec.com>,
        "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'"
	 <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: serial cable pinout?
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Encoding: 86 TEXT





Alesis Serial Port Wire Diagram
===============================

    8 pin - mini DIN male plug
    ==========================

     6  7  8 
     O  O  O   note:
    3 4     5  =====
    O O     O  This Plug connects to 
     1     2   the serial port on the Alesis
     O     O


    PC 9pin  Wiring
    ===============

    Alesis                      PC - Female
      1-----------------------------8
      2-----------------------------7
      3-----------------------------2
      4-----------------------------5
      5-----------------------------3


    PC 25pin  Wiring
    ================

    Alesis                      PC - Female
      1-----------------------------5
      2-----------------------------4
      3-----------------------------3
      4-----------------------------7
      5-----------------------------2


    MAC-MAC  Wiring
    ===============

    Alesis                      PC - Female
      1-----------------------------2
      2-----------------------------1
      3-----------------------------5
      4-----------------------------4
      5-----------------------------3
      6-----------------------------8
      7-----------------------------7
      8-----------------------------6


Hope this helps y'all.


+------------------+-------------------------------------+
|Marc A. Wright    | Play Hard! Play Loud! Play Everyday!|
+------------------+-------------------------------------+


>----------
>From: 	Rick Schofield[SMTP:rds@zk3.dec.com]
>Sent: 	Friday, December 13, 1996 8:37 AM
>To: 	MUS - Quadrasynth List
>Subject: 	serial cable pinout?
>
>Has anyone got the pinout for the serial-to-QS7 cable?  For various
>reasons having nothing to do with Alesis, I'm considering building
>my own.  I've checked the Compuserve archives on the QSWEB page, and
>came up dry.
>
>Also, does anyone know what Alesis is charging for the cable?  If I
>decided to buy theirs, how would I go about ordering it?  How long is
>the cable?  Are there any other sources for it besides Alesis?
>
>	Rick
>-- 
>Rick Schofield |     MLS+ Development       | Look for the Rodeo Clowns
>rds@zk3.dec.com| 603-881-0116 (DTN 381-0116)| playing the best in New
>rds@rds.mv.com |   Digital Equipment Corp.  | Country dance music in 
>Temple, NH     |        Nashua, NH          | south NH & north MA!!!!
>__________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>ase send a
>________________________________________________
>
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From Yvan@quasar.com.br  Fri Dec 13 15:21:52 1996
From: Yvan@quasar.com.br
Message-Id: <199612132021.PAA22442@www14.clever.net>
To: Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: serial cable pinout





 RD>Has anyone got the pinout for the serial-to-QS7 cable?  For various
RD>reasons having nothing to do with Alesis, I'm considering building
RD>my own.  I've checked the Compuserve archives on the QSWEB page, and
RD>came up dry.

RD>Also, does anyone know what Alesis is charging for the cable?  If I
RD>decided to buy theirs, how would I go about ordering it?  How long is
RD>the cable?  Are there any other sources for it besides Alesis?

RD>	Rick
RD>-- 
RD>Rick Schofield |     MLS+ Development       | Look for the Rodeo Clowns
RD>rds@zk3.dec.com| 603-881-0116 (DTN 381-0116)| playing the best in New
RD>rds@rds.mv.com |   Digital Equipment Corp.  | Country dance music in 
RD>Temple, NH     |        Nashua, NH          | south NH & north MA!!!!
RD>__________________________________________________________________
RD>
RD>
RD>
RD>
RD>________________________________________________


Rick,

You will find the serial port wiring diagram on ALESIS page
http://204.250.55.183/  (choose high resolution - download - program )

Hope it can help you.

Yvan
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From Yvan@quasar.com.br  Fri Dec 13 15:28:59 1996
From: Yvan@quasar.com.br
Message-Id: <199612132028.PAA22897@www14.clever.net>
To: Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: sysex  ( level setting for each program )





Helo,

Can anyone tell the sysex message for setting the audio output for a
selected channel ?

If set manualy to AUX  ( through mix edit (60) page 4)  when GM is
enabled it automatically returns to PROG . Is there a way to keep the
previous assignment ?

Thanks,

Yvan Meirelles
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From Yvan@quasar.com.br  Fri Dec 13 16:02:09 1996
From: Yvan@quasar.com.br
Message-Id: <199612132102.QAA26387@www14.clever.net>
To: Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: sysex for transpose  (again)





LW>On  1 Dec 96 at 1:42, Yvan@quasar.com.br wrote:

LW>>Would it be possible to inform me the
LW>> pitch values from -1 to - 11 ?
LW>> Just for channel 1.  I'll try to interpolate for remaining channels.

LW>Yvan,

LW>Sorry, I was off-line for a few days, so I couldn't respond earlier.
LW>Here is the list of negative values for channel 1, hope this helps.
LW>Let me know, if you need more info.

LW>Les

LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 04 00 F7   Channel 1 set to 0
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 7F F7   Channel 1 set to -1
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 7E F7   Channel 1 set to -2
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 7D F7   Channel 1 set to -3
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 7C F7   Channel 1 set to -4
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 7B F7   Channel 1 set to -5
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 7A F7   Channel 1 set to -6
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 79 F7   Channel 1 set to -7
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 78 F7   Channel 1 set to -8
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 77 F7   Channel 1 set to -9
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 76 F7   Channel 1 set to -10
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 75 F7   Channel 1 set to -11
LW>F0 00 00 0E 0E 10 23 00 05 74 F7   Channel 1 set to -12

LW>--
LW>Les Winters
LW>New York

LW>http://midiworld.com/

Dear Les,

My problem is solved.  Thanks.  

One may wonder why this folk uses  sysex, for transpose, instead of more
 simple controllers.   As I play at live, using the old system  "music
minus one" I have all the background previously prepared  and I do the
soloing, using channel 1. As songs varies sometimes in tones during the
execution  the sysex commands  transpose only for the    channel being
used for soloing  where THERE IN NO DATA RECORDED. I continue to play
on the same tone as before.  Songs  transposed to certain tones such as
F#,  C# or B (during execution)  turns the performance more dificult
for me. It much easier and confortable to play in tones you are used
to.  I did not find any other manner to do this, except using pitch
bend wheel with the inconvenience of having to hold the wheel during
the solo.  Pitch tranpose commands of normal  sequencers only
transposes NOTES,   according to my experience. If anyone know of a
distinct method for reaching the same result,  please let me know. 
  Many thanks to Les for this help.

Yvan Meirelles


P.S. Needless to say If you use this system, at  the end of each  song,
 you have  to record a command (sysex) making the pitch return to  the
normal condition, (pitch 00)  otherwise the solo of the next song will
be transposed. This is particularly critical  if you perform at live
and with no pause between songs.
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From QUAZ4@aol.com  Fri Dec 13 23:18:12 1996
From: QUAZ4@aol.com
Message-ID: <961213231743_1424825929@emout17.mail.aol.com>
To: ABlanchard@swri.edu, QUADRASYNTH-LIST@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Calkwalk vs Digital Orch.





That's very strange.

My cursor never behaves erratically...not in Cakewalk, or any other program.

Sounds like a mouse driver issue....but then again...what do I know?

;o)

Tony Daniels

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From MReamer867@aol.com  Sat Dec 14 12:59:25 1996
From: MReamer867@aol.com
Message-ID: <961214125857_1488893837@emout02.mail.aol.com>
To: Yvan@quasar.com.br, Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Please Help





Can anyone tell me why I get thrown out of windows 95 to a "Windows
Protection eror" (Which then says "It is now safe to turn off your computer")
every time I touch a single keyboard key? I have a qs6 and GM is off. This is
some "New" development after months of things being fine with cakewalk. Any
help would be appreciated since having such a nice system is useless if I
can't use it. Thanks in advance,       Mont
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From quinone@nol.net  Sat Dec 14 14:57:29 1996
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From: Eric Zazesky <quinone@nol.net>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
cc: quinone@nol.net
Subject: Ram card problems
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961214135347.27325B-100000@dazed.nol.net>





   Hi, after finally getting what sounds I want into a new card, I noticed
that either soud bridge or my QS itself is mangling the program banks when
I sysex dump.  The problem arises that Sound Bridge claims 'internal
error: no bank found' or something to that nature, even on fresh dumps I
did from either cakewalk or freeloader.  Any suggestions? Also, I am
unable to switch to the card bank via midi controls.  It simply sits there
when I tell it bank 5.  Any suggestions for either (or both) problems
would greatly be appreciated.  

Eric Zavesky

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From grasia@galactica.it  Sun Dec 15 16:49:07 1996
From: grasia@galactica.it
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.15.-10.49.8.2240783038.3299577@bbs.galactica.it>
Subject: Print programs name
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com





Often I forget the name of a program (or a mix) and in which .syx file
it is.
Do you know if is  possible to print the list of all programs and mixes
contained in a syx file?
Does QuadraEditor 2.0 do this?

Thanks

Giulio Rasia
grasia@galactica.it


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From akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr  Sun Dec 15 17:19:38 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: Thanos Kastritis <akastr@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr>
Subject: Re: SB and internal ROM in gen. (Regarding Upgrade Policy)


David, I a sorry if I am getting this too far! :)

At 10:10 =EC=EC 4/12/1996 (admitedly a long time ago), David Bryce wrote:
><<Couldn't an O.S. upgrade fix this?>>
>
>Maybe...it's not out of the question for the QS stuff, but the Quadrasynth,
as a=20
>discontinued piece, won't get any more software upgrades.

Why?
Is it a standard policy that old models don't deserve upgrating?
Since the Quandrasynth Plus and the QS7,QS7, both have the same
synth engine, it is clearly not a matter of time and energy spent
on developement, but of intentions.
What if a substancial number of users were willing to pay for
an upgrade?

With no offence meant,

Thanos

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From lpf004@email.mot.com  Mon Dec 16 08:42:25 1996
Message-Id: <32B50B23.3982@email.mot.com>
From: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: program content
X-Url: http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_main.htm




Ho Ho Ho,

Giulio Rasia wrote:
"Often I forget the name of a program (or a mix) and in which .syx file
it is.
Do you know if is  possible to print the list of all programs and mixes
contained in a syx file?
Does QuadraEditor 2.0 do this?"

Well, I'd love to get ahold of a similar list for the QuadraSynth+'s 
factory presets (yup all 640 of them) describing both the voices in the 
programs AND the effects settings as well. Anybody out there know of 
such a thing?

Paul Fazzina lpf004@email.mot.com
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From Yvan@quasar.com.br  Mon Dec 16 09:20:02 1996
From: Yvan@quasar.com.br
Message-Id: <199612161420.JAA01096@www14.clever.net>
To: Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: program content





"Well, I'd love to get ahold of a similar list for the QuadraSynth+'s 
factory presets (yup all 640 of them)" "describing both the voices in
the  programs AND the effects settings as well. Anybody out there know
of"  "such a thing?"

"Paul Fazzina lpf004@email.mot.com"

Paul,

You will find fhe names of the voices for the QS on ALESIS page 
http://204.250.55.183/services/support.html   under "program charts".

Hope this helps.


Yvan Meirelles
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From rds@zk3.dec.com  Mon Dec 16 10:01:55 1996
Sender: rds@zk3.dec.com
Message-Id: <32B56340.2781@zk3.dec.com>
From: Rick Schofield <rds@zk3.dec.com>
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To: MUS - Quadrasynth List <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: QuadraEditor??




In a recent post to this list, Paul Fazzina made reference to a
"QuadraEditor 2.0" which made me curious.  I haven't seen any mention
of such an application on any of the QS pages I've seen.  If such an
app exists, does anyone know where can I get more information on it?

	Rick	
-- 
Rick Schofield |     MLS+ Development       | Look for the Rodeo Clowns
rds@zk3.dec.com| 603-881-0116 (DTN 381-0116)| playing the best in New
rds@rds.mv.com |   Digital Equipment Corp.  | Country dance music in 
Temple, NH     |        Nashua, NH          | south NH & north MA!!!!
__________________________________________________________________




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From y94emala@und.ida.liu.se  Mon Dec 16 10:24:24 1996
Message-Id: <199612161517.QAA17804@styrenix.ida.liu.se>
Comments: Authenticated sender is <y94emala@styrenix.ida.liu.se>
From: "Emanuel Larsson" <y94emala@und.ida.liu.se>
To: rds@zk3.dec.com, quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: QuadraEditor??




Hello!

> In a recent post to this list, Paul Fazzina made reference to a
> "QuadraEditor 2.0" which made me curious.  I haven't seen any mention
> of such an application on any of the QS pages I've seen.  If such an
> app exists, does anyone know where can I get more information on it?
> 
>Rick	

Yes, YEs and  YES!!! I know a possible answer.
I know a very good site. Haven't you allready been there you got to 
go there. It's a bookmark to place in top if you are an Alesis QS user. 

http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/

Concerning QE2.0. You can look at software. There are links to QE2.0.
You can downlod a demo of the program and the elder version of the 
program QE1.0 it's freeware. 

/ Emme
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From rds@zk3.dec.com  Mon Dec 16 10:30:32 1996
Sender: rds@zk3.dec.com
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From: Rick Schofield <rds@zk3.dec.com>
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Subject: re:  QuadraEditor 2.0 --- "Never mind..."




Sorry gang.  I just saw the info for the QE 2.0 on the QS page and
I'm downloading it right now.  Sorry for the stupid question...

	R
-- 
Rick Schofield |     MLS+ Development       | Look for the Rodeo Clowns
rds@zk3.dec.com| 603-881-0116 (DTN 381-0116)| playing the best in New
rds@rds.mv.com |   Digital Equipment Corp.  | Country dance music in 
Temple, NH     |        Nashua, NH          | south NH & north MA!!!!
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From marc.wright@hydro.on.ca  Mon Dec 16 11:08:42 1996
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From: WRIGHT Marc  -OH SHRD SRVC <marc.wright@hydro.on.ca>
To: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Cc: "'midiworld@clever.net'" <midiworld@clever.net>
Subject: Cakewalk Instrument Definitions For The Alesis QS6
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Does anyone have an instrument def file for Cakewalk  4.0 and the QS6?

TIA,

+-----------------------+----------------------------------+
|Marc A. Wright         | (c)                              |
|Marc.Wright@hydro.on.ca| Play Hard! Play Loud! Just Play! |
+-----------------------+----------------------------------+

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From marc.wright@hydro.on.ca  Mon Dec 16 12:28:52 1996
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From: WRIGHT Marc  -OH SHRD SRVC <marc.wright@hydro.on.ca>
To: "'james@innocon.com'" <james@innocon.com>
Cc: "'quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com'" <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: RE: Cakewalk Instrument Definitions For The Alesis QS6
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|
>| From: 	Les Winters[SMTP:lwinters@midiworld.com]
>| Sent: 	Monday, December 16, 1996 6:30 AM
>| Subject: 	Cakewalk Instrument Definitions For The Alesis QS6
|  It's on the QuadraSynth web page, in the Software Library.
|  Les Winters - New York
|
| http://midiworld.com/
|

I have found the defs I needed. Thanks Les.

>|
>| From: 	Michael D. James[SMTP:james@innocon.com]
>| Sent: 	Monday, December 16, 1996 11:46 AM
>| Subject: 	Cakewalk Instrument Definitions For The Alesis QS6
|
>| Sorry I don't.  But why did you change your tagline from "Play
>| everyday!"? 
|

Just variation on a theme Michael! (Good composers utilize this trick
B-).

>
>+-----------------------+-------------------------------+
>|Marc A. Wright         | (c) Play Hard! Play Loud!     |
>|Marc.Wright@hydro.on.ca|     Play 'Till yah satisfied! |
>+-----------------------+-------------------------------+
>
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Mon Dec 16 16:30:09 1996
Message-ID: <01BBEB6E.63B421A0@tull.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Has anyone got some QS+ patches to share





Has anyone got some QS+ patches they want to share?


Thanks,
John Bercik

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From packer@zirkel.poci.amis.com  Mon Dec 16 16:54:09 1996
Message-Id: <199612162153.OAA10103@zirkel.poci.amis.com>
From: "Reed J. Packer" <packer@zirkel.poci.amis.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: New EE proms on QS6





Hi, 

I just purchased a QS6. Is there and easy way to tell if it has
the new version of EEPROM?

Reed

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>|
>| From: 	Reed J. Packer[SMTP:packer@zirkel.poci.amis.com]
>| Subject: 	New EE proms on QS6
>| I just purchased a QS6. Is there and easy way to tell if it has
>| the new version of EEPROM?
>|
>
>Hi,
>
>To display the EPROM version in any Quadra
>press [PROGRAM] and [00] simultaneously.
>
>The software version will be displayed on the
>LCD display.
>
>
>+-----------------------+-------------------------------+
>|Marc A. Wright         | (c) Play Hard! Play Loud!     |
>|Marc.Wright@hydro.on.ca|     Play 'Till yah satisfied! |
>+-----------------------+-------------------------------+
>
>
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From grasia@galactica.it  Tue Dec 17 17:35:05 1996
From: grasia@galactica.it
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.17.-12.49.58.2240783038.3312891@bbs.galactica.it>
Subject: print program content
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com





YV>"Well, I'd love to get ahold of a similar list for the QuadraSynth+'s 
YV>factory presets (yup all 640 of them)" "describing both the voices in
YV>the  programs AND the effects settings as well. Anybody out there know
YV>of"  "such a thing?"

YV>"Paul Fazzina lpf004@email.mot.com"

YV>Paul,

YV>You will find fhe names of the voices for the QS on ALESIS page 
YV>http://204.250.55.183/services/support.html   under "program charts".

YV>Hope this helps.


YV>Yvan Meirelles

Sorry Yvan, that's not enaugh; imagine that you have to handle  several
(new) banks of sounds and you don't remember where a particular sound
is, or which sound best suit your need;  what do yuo do?

I think that it shouldn't be so difficult to make a simple program that
extracts  the names of the programs from a syx file and makes a list
(living a blank cell aside for comments).
Any purposeful  software design out there?

Giulio Rasia
Milano Italy
grasia@galactica.it


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From chchien@leland.Stanford.EDU  Tue Dec 17 23:53:43 1996
From: Chi-Hua Chien <chchien@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: chchien@leland.Stanford.EDU
Reply-To: Chi-Hua Chien <chchien@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: Quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: QS8 packing
In-Reply-To: <961213231743_1424825929@emout17.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961217204354.14086B-100000@cardinal1.Stanford.EDU>





Hey all,

I just bought a SKB 5014 to go with my QS8 since I expect to be moving it
a fair amount.  I'm trying to put together the foam bumpers on top right
now, but I'm not quite sure what's the best config for the keyboard.  Is
it better to have the foam pushing all the way down on the keys and
immobilizing the keyboard, or is it a bad idea to apply constant pressure
to the keys (i.e.  it might we wearing out teh spring mechanism of the
keybed or something)?  And would the SKB be fairly safe with the QS8 on
air shipping?

Maybe someone with experience shipping the QS8 or keyboards in general  
around can help me out on this one.


Thanks, 

Chi-Hua


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From rpmtino@cris.com  Wed Dec 18 12:27:22 1996
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From: Rob Martino <rpmtino@cris.com>
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Repair advice




It looks like my QS+piano is about to go in for repair.  While
it's still under the 1 year parts warranty, I didn't quite
realize that labor is only 90 days.  So before having to spend
$50-$100 on an hour or two of labor, I was wondering if anyone
was familiar with this problem to see if there is a cheaper fix:

When I move the modulation wheel, I often notice the pitch will
waver around after that (even if I stop using the wheel).
It tends to clear up after a few seconds, but during that
time the pitch will meander all over the place, making the
sound unplayable.

Once in a while I also notice the LCD display flickers and
gets darker on the left side, anyone seen that as well?

Thanks,

Rob Martino
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From jeffhrsn@deltanet.com  Wed Dec 18 13:13:09 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: Jeff Harrison <jeffhrsn@deltanet.com>
Subject: Value of a used QS+???



Hello all,
I'd like to get some opinions regarding the value of a used QS+Piano. No
add ons or cards - just the board itself in excellent condition.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff


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From sbancroft@molsci.com  Wed Dec 18 13:53:25 1996
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
From: "Sara Bancroft" <sbancroft@molsci.com>
Subject: Sensitivity of QS+



Hi.

I know the feel of a keyboard differs for everyone, but is there a set
number out there that someone really enjoys?  I've got to choose between 0 -
99 and have been playing around a bit, but haven't found "THE" particular
number.

I'm interested in hearing about anyone's favorite "Sensitivity" numbers,
especially for the piano sounds; and, if you change your number when you
change from a STEREO piano to one of GRAND 7 or CLASSICAL. What do you do
when you move into the Synthesizer sounds or Strings? Must we mess with this
button much? Or just find a particular number and stick with it?

Thanks much,

Sara Bancroft


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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Wed Dec 18 14:32:51 1996
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To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
From: William Baker <wbaker@nkf.com>
Subject: Re: Value of a used QS+???



At 01:13 PM 12/18/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>I'd like to get some opinions regarding the value of a used QS+Piano. No
>add ons or cards - just the board itself in excellent condition.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jeff
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________
>
>
Jeff,



FOR A CURRENT MODEL:  15% under what your local music store sells it for.

FOR ANY KEYBOARD 5 TO 10 YEARS AFTER DISCONTINUED: Not less than $300 

FOR A DISCONTINUED MODEL: As a rule you can take somewhere around 15 to 20%
off for every year it's (that model) been out - that's what you  amortize it
at if you deduct it professionally from your taxes. This process of price
drop lasts about 3 years, 'til the board is priced at 50 to 60% of what
*you* paid [not list], then stabilizes at that price for a while.  For a
decent board, the bottom of that curve usually lasts for a long time, so the
advantage is more to folks selling after 4 or 5 years than it is for 1.  For
the QS-PLUS, which was out a bit over 2 years you can assume a 20-25% drop
in the proce you paid - 'cuz the *model* has been out that long, not
necessarily because you've owned it that long.  If it is in really good
shape you might get 5-10% more.  Near as I can tell, as a musician with long
time experience in the keyboard buying biz this is a fairly standard way to
(de)value gear.

What it means to you is that the *buying price for you* ~$900 or so results
in a selling price between $700 and $800, priced that way it should move.
Keep in mind that in the change-over to the QS6/7/8 a lot of QS+'s were
blown out by stores - so you may have to come in under *that* price.  Ouch!

Also remember that this is a Sell-it-yourself price, NOT an indication of a
FAIR offer you'd get on a consignment sale through a music store.  They'll
undervalue it to you in order to make a profit of 50% or so (which is what
they make on new stuff people *want* to buy, as opposed to used gear that
they might not).  Look to get not more than 50% back on your purchase price.

One last piece of advice.  Last time I tried to sell high-end gear out of my
home, I had someone put a gun to my head and walk out of my house with more
than 2 grand of keyboards (oh, the joys of life in the D.C. metro area) -
carefull opening your door to total strangers.

Luck,

BB

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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Wed Dec 18 15:04:34 1996
Message-Id: <199612182004.PAA07195@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: Value of a used QS+???

Return-receipt-to: lwinters@midiworld.com




On 18 Dec 96 at 13:13, Jeff Harrison wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'd like to get some opinions regarding the value of a used QS+Piano. No
> add ons or cards - just the board itself in excellent condition.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Jeff

Jeff,

The current value is around $700. It was sold for $899 in most stores, so
that's the new price you have to use to figure the used value.
I've seen several ads in the used gear newsgroups, most of them were asking
$700-750. 

If you want to sell your QS, or looking for one, I can put your ad on the
QuadraSynth Page, it'll cost you nothing.

Les
 
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From sswain@tartarus.uwa.edu.au  Wed Dec 18 20:29:25 1996
From: Stuart Swain <sswain@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Message-Id: <199612190128.JAA07041@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Breakbeat breakdown?
To: Quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7+]





I'll post this to a relevant newsgroup if noone here is able to help,
but... I'm after a breakdown of a good breakbeat loop. I'm after
something hardcore & Prodigy style. 

I don't want to use a drum machine for two reasons - I want to be
able to change the loop, the sounds and/or mix different kits, and
secondly, I don't HAVE a drum machine! :) I've been trying to get
a good breakbeat happening on my QS+ for a while now, with limited
success. It just doesn't ever sound quite *right*

If anyone could provide me with a good MIDI file or a written breakdown
I'd really appreciate it. By written, I mean something like:

1-------2-------
k.......k.......
h.h.h.h.h.h.h.h. 
....s.......s.s.

Where k is kickdrum1, h maybe a closed hihat, and s a snare. You get
the general idea.

Thanks

Stu
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From wearl@goodnet.com  Wed Dec 18 21:08:32 1996
From: wearl@goodnet.com (William)
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: QS+Piano problem
Message-ID: <32b9abe5.4114431@mail.goodnet.com>
X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99g/16.339





I've got a QS+Piano that, intermittantly, after using either the blend
or Mod wheel, will become "possessed"!  Sorry for the description, but
that's how to best describe it.... The sounds, without any
intervention, will vary randomly an octave or two until I turn the
keyboard off and then on (I guess that's the keyboard version of
reboot! ;))

The problem is that this occurs sometimes during a performance...  is
quite embarassing when they ask you to "do it again!"

Anyway, the keyboard is still under warranty and I'd like to see if
this is something that I should have repaired (or is repairable....)

Thanks!
William Earl
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From frank@moai.com  Wed Dec 18 22:10:52 1996
Comments: Authenticated sender is <frank@[206.169.7.12]>
From: "Frank Kang" <frank@moai.com>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Looking for a grand piano card

X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42)
Message-Id: <19961218191019.14ebf05b.in@mail.moai.com>





Anyone know where to get the best deal on a new grand piano card?

Also, if anyone is trying to get rid of a used one, please let me know.

Thanks

Frank
frank@moai.com
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From lpf004@email.mot.com  Thu Dec 19 13:05:48 1996
Message-Id: <32B93DA4.61DC@email.mot.com>
From: Paul Fazzina <lpf004@email.mot.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: sequencing magic
X-Url: http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth/qs_main.htm




Hi,

When I'm sequencing I never seem to be able to get a good sound for 
passages that have a lot of little notes (things like flute trills or 
fast trumpet soloing). Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks in advance,
Paul Fazzina lpf004@email.mot.com
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From rpmtino@cris.com  Thu Dec 19 17:39:08 1996
Errors-To: <rpmtino@cris.com>
Message-ID: <32B9C414.5CB5@cris.com>
From: Rob Martino <rpmtino@cris.com>
Reply-To: rpmtino@cris.com
Organization: Concentric Network
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: QS+Piano problem
References: <32b9abe5.4114431@mail.goodnet.com>




William wrote:
> 
> I've got a QS+Piano that, intermittantly, after using either the blend
> or Mod wheel, will become "possessed"!  Sorry for the description, but
> that's how to best describe it.... The sounds, without any
> intervention, will vary randomly an octave or two until I turn the
> keyboard off and then on (I guess that's the keyboard version of
> reboot! ;))

Try re-initializing the synth...turn it on while pressing
quadrabuttons 1 and 4.

I tried this two times and it seemed to clear up the pitch
problems I said I was having a couple days ago, at least for
now.

Rob Martino
http://www.cris.com/~rpmtino
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From dcjames@mail.utexas.edu  Thu Dec 19 18:00:44 1996
Message-ID: <32B9CA07.59E@mail.utexas.edu>
From: David James <dcjames@mail.utexas.edu>
Reply-To: dcjames@mail.utexas.edu
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)

To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: original QS




I own a QS (not the plus) and I am considering upgrading to a QS8.  If I
were to sell the QS, what would be a realistic price to expect.  Guitar
Center would give me between $300-350; that seems pretty low.

I have also heard that alot of users of the QS8 have tweaked their piano
patches... Is this difficult?  Does anyone want to post their patches?

Thanks.
David J.
dcjames@mail.utexas.edu
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From ppp067c@main.citynet.net  Thu Dec 19 19:01:18 1996
Message-Id: <199612200003.TAA22473@main.citynet.net>
Subject: Re: sequencing magic
x-sender: ppp067c@main.citynet.net

From: "Kurt K. Knopp" <kknopp@citynet.net>
To: "qs" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>





>Subject:     sequencing magic
>Sent:        12/19/96 1:05 PM
>Received:    12/19/96 6:57 PM
>From:        Paul Fazzina, lpf004@email.mot.com
>To:          QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
>
>Hi,
>
>When I'm sequencing I never seem to be able to get a good sound for 
>passages that have a lot of little notes (things like flute trills or 
>fast trumpet soloing). Can anyone enlighten me?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Paul Fazzina lpf004@email.mot.com

I use a custom made flute patch when using trills.  No flute is 
polyphonic so I make the patch mono.  Then all you have to do is hold 
down one key while rapidly tapping the one next to it to get a convincing 
trill.

-------------------------     
      Kurt Knopp
mailto:kknopp@citynet.net
------------------------- 

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From grasia@galactica.it  Sat Dec 21 13:29:25 1996
From: grasia@galactica.it
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.21.-13.26.42.2240783038.3340536@bbs.galactica.it>
Subject: QS+ Factory Presets List
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com





SB>Giulio, 

SB>        I've been reading your conversation with Paul and Yvan regarding the
SB>LIST for QS+ sounds and presets.  I went into http204.250..., but was not
SB>able to locate a CHART for QS+.  Am I missing something here?  Or is there
SB>nothing for us out there?

SB>Thanks in advance.

SB>Sara Bancroft
SB>San Diego, California

Sara, actually I was looking for something able to create a list of
sounds and presets from any QS .syx file; but at  the moment I haven't
find anything.
Anyway if I'll find it , I'll let you know.

Happy holiday

Giulio Rasia
Milano Italy


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From RobertREI@aol.com  Sat Dec 21 17:06:59 1996
From: RobertREI@aol.com
Message-ID: <961221170631_236524382@emout18.mail.aol.com>
To: lwinters@midiworld.com, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Problems w. Mix





Hello.
     It's been a while since I sent this message originally, but I figured ou
how to solve the problem.  Apparently, if the Pan setting in Cakewalk is
centred, then everything about the programmes in a mix is too.  I wasn't
getting stereo drums, and I guess the piano, which is a stereo programme,
sounded funny when it was centred.  Once I got rid of the Pan controller
setting, the problem disappeared and everything sounded normal again.  Thanks
for your help.

Regards,
Nate Roemer

In a message dated 96-12-08 21:48:40 EST, Les Winters wrote:

<< Nathan,
 
 Check which channel your mix uses as FX channel. Sometimes a different
effect
 can change the sound so you wouldn't recognize it.
 Also, it's always a good idea to check if your synth is in GM mode. It can
 happen accidentally, and it can mess up your settings.
 Are you using the QS8 Instrument Definitions with  Cakewalk ?
 It can make your life easier.
 The easy way to fix the problem, is if you send me the problem-file, and I
 test it on my synth. I use Cakewalk too, so I can play it.
 
 Les
 -----------------------------------------------------
 
 On  8 Dec 96 at 17:19, RobertREI@aol.com wrote:
 
 > Hello.
 >      I've been having a problem with some sequences I've been working on.
 >  Here's what's been happening.  I'm using Cakewalk Pro Audio (v4.5 for Win
 > 3.1) and the QS8 via the Serial Interface.  I'm also using User Mix 00 -
 > 'Multitmbrl'.  I have the following programmes assigned to the following
 > channels:
 > 
 > Ch1 - User:  PureStereo
 > Ch2 - Pre3:  Deep Bass
 > Ch3 - Pre1:  LA Phil
 > Ch10 - Pre1:  DM5 Drums
 > (and the rest the same as the defaults for the mix)
 > 
 > When I enter Mix mode and select User Mix 00 (unmodified) and make the
 > programme changes manually, everything is fine.  However, when Cakewalk
plays
 > back my sequence, the PureStereo piano sounds really funny, almost
 > 'plasticised'.  Anyway, it doesn't sound like the great piano sound that
it's
 > supposed to.  If I go to programme mode then to mix mode again, everything
 > sounds like it should again.  But, again, whenever Cakewalk tries to play
back
 > the sequence, I get the wierd sounding piano again.  I even check to make
sure
 > Cakewalk isn't changing the programme, but after the 'sound' of the piano
 > changes, 'PureStereo' is still on Channel 1.  Does anyone know how to fix
 > this?  Any help would really be appreciated.  Thanks!!
 > 
 > Peace,
 > Nate
 > 
 >
****************************************************************************
 > Nathan Roemer - Christian Music Ministry          E-mail:
 robertrei@aol.com
 > Please visit my web site at
http://users.aol.com/robertrei/private/index.htm
 >
________________________________________________-
 > 'Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together 
 >      go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of 
 >      genius'.                     - Wolfgang Amad Mozart  1756-1791
 >
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 > __________________________________________________________________ Message
 > sent by way of the Quadrasynth Mailing List List Address:
 > QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com 
 > 
 > ________________________________________________
 > 
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 New York
 
 http://midiworld.com/
  >>

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From grasia@galactica.it  Sun Dec 22 16:03:36 1996
From: grasia@galactica.it
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.12.22.-11.59.54.2240783038.3353414@bbs.galactica.it>
Subject: Re: print program content
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com





GR>In message <TCPSMTP.16.12.17.-12.49.58.2240783038.3312891@bbs.galactica.
GR>it>, grasia@galactica.it writes
GR>>
GR>>Sorry Yvan, that's not enaugh; imagine that you have to handle  several
GR>>(new) banks of sounds and you don't remember where a particular sound
GR>>is, or which sound best suit your need;  what do yuo do?
GR>>
GR>>I think that it shouldn't be so difficult to make a simple program that
GR>>extracts  the names of the programs from a syx file and makes a list
GR>The idea was to generate a list which could be sorted (I know the patch
GR>name, but can't remeber where it is...) and listed what controllers did
GR>what. I kinda concluded that it would make sense to add the partial
GR>voice names as well, and then do the same for the mixes. You end up with
GR>a huge, multidimensional spreadsheet, but it will be worth the wait...
GR>-- 
GR>Graham Wignall

Yeah that's what i like.
But also in the fine Paul Swennenhuis' program: Alesis QuadraSynth
Editor (I'm using v1.1), cuold be nice in the "Quadra to disk" panel (
click on the icon "to disk" up left) have a "print"  button to print
the list.

Let' s hope... Graham

Giulio Rasia
Milano Italy


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From donovan@kcstar.com  Mon Dec 23 01:48:05 1996
Message-Id: <199612230455.WAA12927@kcsg1.kcstar.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
From: donovan@kcstar.com (Derek Donovan)
Subject: Re: Value of a used QS+???



Or, instead of William's suggestions on pricing a used QS+, you could just
wait until enough people decide arbitrarily it's a "classic" and pick one up
for around $9000.  Just ask any TB-303 owner!  : )

In all seriousness, I really feel my QS+ (actually an upgraded original QS)
is quite a bit better machine than a QS 6 or 7, as it has a good deal more
ROM and is a LOT cooler looking!

Good luck in your quest,
Derek

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From quinone@nol.net  Mon Dec 23 09:09:07 1996
Message-Id: <199612231409.IAA13583@nol.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
From: quinone@nol.net (Quinone)
Subject: Cakewalk problems



        Ok, I know this isn't a cakewalk forum or anything, but I was
wondering if anyone had the same problem.  It seems that when I made around
sixteen tracks using twelve channels, somwhere along the line the last track
I had physically listed just stopped echoing to midi.  I could get other
tracks to work through that channel and the piano roll works ok, but those
twoo tracks are dead now. Fortunatly I did get it to work by converting and
saving as a midi file, but I loose all the formating when I do so.  What I
was wondering is if anyone has experienced the same thing or has any ideas
on fixing this.  I've already checked the event lists and controllers with
no results.  Well, thanks for reading this far, and again I apologize about
this mail thing.

Eric Zavesky

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From CikiraMidi@aol.com  Mon Dec 23 14:36:49 1996
From: CikiraMidi@aol.com
Message-ID: <961223142153_1721367050@emout12.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: Value of a used QS+???





<<In all seriousness, I really feel my QS+ (actually an upgraded original QS)
is quite a bit better machine than a QS 6 or 7, as it has a good deal more
ROM and is a LOT cooler looking!

Good luck in your quest,
Derek>>

I can't resist coming out of lurking to say thet my carefully-considered
response to the emergence of the QS-6, 7, and 8 line was to get on the phone
and rustle up a second QS Plus Piano at a closeout price.  My first Alesis KB
was one of the QuadraSynth originals, and has been upgraded twice to QS Plus.
 It has the controller place of honor in my studio for being cool-looking,
matching the Alesis monitors, and being minus a lot of helpful but
cluttered-looking silk screening.  The second one is my main board for a
second Mac workstation that is deliberately very streamlined for composing.

I'm happy to collect Alesis cards for the machine--I'm not a samplehead.
 I've been collecting synths instead, and if I can't come up with enough
sounds by now, I don't deserve to!

Three cheers and a Merry Xmas to owners of a classic!  (OK, and to everybody
else, too  ;-)
                   _/)                   
              __/ /     Amanda Pehlke/CIKIRA STUDIO MIDI SUITE
           /       (_______             
   ---/              =======)          cikiramidi@aol.com
                        ========)      400 Marisa Hill Drive 
                       ======)           Selah, WA, USA 98942
 _ ---\_____ /===-                   (509) 697-4050





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From wbaker@ws1.nkf.com  Mon Dec 23 15:15:07 1996
Message-Id: <199612232015.PAA15781@ws1.nkf.com>
X-Sender: wbaker@ws1.nkf.com



To: <QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com>
From: William Baker <wbaker@nkf.com>
Subject: Just lurking, thanks...



At 02:36 PM 12/23/96 -0500, you wrote:
><<In all seriousness, I really feel my QS+ (actually an upgraded original QS)
>is quite a bit better machine than a QS 6 or 7, as it has a good deal more
>ROM and is a LOT cooler looking!
>
>Good luck in your quest,
>Derek>>
>
>I can't resist coming out of lurking...
>Amanda


Dear Lurking Amanda,

You should come out more often - you might like it in the light.  Regrarding
module collecting, I do it myself as a quick way to add new stuff to the
sound pallet.  Also there are a lot of combinations of synth technology that
sound cool together.  I used to run a FB-01 (4-op digital) with a Roland
Juno-2 (digi-osc. analog); separately they sounded kind of thin and cheesy,
together they sounded really pretty cool.  The FB-01 added "Sting" to the
Juno's "Buzz" - D-50-type sounds 2 years before D-50 hit the market.  These
days I'm using that same kind of layering to beef up brass hits and make
section strings sound more like multiple players.  The differences in
combinations of vibrato can make these types of patches sound more real,
over the short run.  You need to pick your layers carefully and make sure
controler routings like pitch bend and aftertouch aren't wildly different
(unless you like that!).  It's also good practice for making interesting
"multi" patches on the QS (and other synths). 

As to what's on my module wish list these days... I'm looking for a Korg
Wavestation/SR and may pick up one or more Korg 05R/05RD modules if the
bottom falls out on 'em, price-wise.

To you or anyone else lurking - anybody got some good lessons-learned type
info or recommendations on Yamaha modules (SY, TG, TX series, etc.) as far
as emulating the "classic" DX sounds?  I'm looking for something with a
fairly large (user) voice bank capability.  I'd be interested in your two cents.

Thanx a bunch,

Bill Baker
Gaithersburg, MD
Keyboards in "DIAMOND ALLEY" 

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From hex@io.com  Tue Dec 24 09:56:14 1996
Message-ID: <32BFEE3C.24F1@io.com>
From: Wynne Anderson Hexamer <hex@io.com>
Reply-To: hex@io.com
Organization: Hexamer Industries
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I)

To: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Another Soundbridge Suggestion




It appears that when you first construct a project file that Soundbridge
records the lengths of the samples.  If you happen to edit one of the
samples (and change the length in the process) and then attempt to
compile the project to the flash card, it stops downloading at the file
in question with the message "error loading file".  The work-around I
use in such cases is to construct a new project of the same files in the
process recording the new file length.  I was wondering if you nice
folks at Alesis might consider having a future version of Soundbridge
check file lengths when it verifies files.  

Sincerely,

Wynne Hexamer
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From progmon@eden.com  Tue Dec 24 11:22:42 1996
Message-ID: <32C002C7.29CC@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
Organization: Rich's MIDI and Audio Lab
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)

To: hex@io.com
CC: Quadrasynth Mailing List <QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: Another Soundbridge Suggestion
References: <32BFEE3C.24F1@io.com>




Wynne Anderson Hexamer wrote:
> 
> It appears that when you first construct a project file that Soundbridge
> records the lengths of the samples.  If you happen to edit one of the
> samples (and change the length in the process) and then attempt to
> compile the project to the flash card, it stops downloading at the file
> in question with the message "error loading file".  The work-around I
> use in such cases is to construct a new project of the same files in the
> process recording the new file length.  I was wondering if you nice
> folks at Alesis might consider having a future version of Soundbridge
> check file lengths when it verifies files.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Wynne Hexamer


I have to agree with that one.  Bridge bit me bad last night after
toiling a few hours putting together a killer bank, it crashed during
the 62nd minute of the upload because there was a problem with my .syx
file.  While the samples were intact, there is no way to get a program
bank in there without uploading the whole thing again.  I think it would
really help if Bridge spent a few more minutes checking and validating
the files. It would also be nice if banks could be stored to the flash
ram card from the front panel, i.e., copy the user bank to the card.

Positively, I have to say I am moderately blown away by what the QS can
do with the samples I've put in.  Things I wouldnt even conceive of with
my Esi-32, which originally sampled the sounds. Using phantom mode to
alter the playback rate really gives lots of versatility.

I put in lots of sound FX, thunder, rain, car horns, factory whistles
etc.  The onboard effects really bring them out.
  
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Rich's MIDI Audio Lab
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
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From packer@zirkel.poci.amis.com  Thu Dec 26 00:56:44 1996
Message-Id: <199612260556.WAA11906@zirkel.poci.amis.com>
From: "Reed J. Packer" <packer@zirkel.poci.amis.com>
To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: sequencer for mac classic





Hi,

I've been lurking for awhile now being new to all this but having a
blast with my new QS6.  My problem is this. The only computer I have
is a Macintosh Classic with 4meg of ram runing system 7.0, is there a
basic sequencer available for this setup? If someone could point me in
the right direction I would really appreciate it.


Thanks,

Reed
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From Yvan@quasar.com.br  Thu Dec 26 13:58:43 1996
From: Yvan@quasar.com.br
Message-Id: <199612261858.NAA10525@www14.clever.net>
To: Quadrasynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS !





MY WISHES OF MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY MUSICAL AND HAPPY NEW YEAR  TO
ALL THE SUBSCRIBERS OF THE QUADRASYNTH MAILIING LIST.

     Yvan Meirelles
 yvan@quasar.com.br

Bahia, Brazil
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From whitaker@mail3.voicenet.com  Fri Dec 27 01:41:28 1996
Message-Id: <199612270644.BAA19970@mail3.voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: sequencer for mac classic
x-sender: whitaker@popmail.voicenet.com

From: Gene Whitaker <whitaker@voicenet.com>
To: "Reed J. Packer" <packer@zirkel.poci.amis.com>,
        <QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com>





>Hi,
>
>I've been lurking for awhile now being new to all this but having a
>blast with my new QS6.  My problem is this. The only computer I have
>is a Macintosh Classic with 4meg of ram runing system 7.0, is there a
>basic sequencer available for this setup? If someone could point me in
>the right direction I would really appreciate it.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Reed

Reed,

I am using Passport's Master Trax Pro version 5.2 for Macintosh.  As far 
as I know, it runs just fine on everything from a Classic to a PowerMac, 
using a mere 1meg of RAM.  It is relatively easy to use and flexible.  It 
is not only a 'basic sequencer,' but it also provides many advanced 
features which should become useful as your needs grow.  I think it is an 
optimal choice for your setup.  

Hope this has helped!



******************************************

  Gene Whitaker                         
  whitaker@voicenet.com                 
  http://www.voicenet.com/~whitaker/    
                                        
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From bercikj@musc.edu  Fri Dec 27 02:19:20 1996
Message-ID: <01BBF39C.5F261680@bercikjlaptop.musc.edu>
From: John Bercik <bercikj@musc.edu>
To: "'Quadrasynth Mailing List'" <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Subject: Strategy for a QS+ library of sounds





I am using Unisyn software as a librarian for my QS+.  It allows me to =
save banks and individual presets and mixes much like the QE editor.  I =
am trying to get a strategy to restore these presets reliably.

Scenario 1:
User Mixes are made from Preset Banks 1 through 4

Scenario 2:
User Mixes are made from custom user banks (presets) and Preset Banks 1 =
through 4.

Scenario 3:
User Mixes are made from presets on the PCMCIA ROM card and Scenario 2.

Scenario 4:
User Mixes are made from presets using samples dumped to the PCMCIA Ram =
card and Scenario 2.

Can someone tell me some of the implications and dependencies involved =
in effectively restoring these banks of mixes and presets please?  If =
effects bus is involved please elaborate regarding this too.  Have I =
missed any scenarios?

Thanks,
John Bercik
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From BluesMan20@aol.com  Fri Dec 27 20:02:48 1996
From: BluesMan20@aol.com
Message-ID: <961227200217_1009029355@emout01.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com (quadrasynthmailinglist)
Subject: QS6 with Cakewalk





I'm new to the QS6 and I'm looking for any advice for use with Cakewalk. I'm
struggling to find the right setup. 

What are the best settings for the QS6 (KBD MODE, PLAY MODE, etc.) and
CAKEWALK (midi echo, etc.)

Is it necessary to create a mix and select it manually on the QS6 for each
sound file or is there a way around this?

I've had the most success with the QS6 in Mix mode, KBD MODE: OUT 01, with
midi echo within Cakewalk set to Auto. The problem I have is after I load a
midi file, I have to go to each track and reset the Patch, Bank, Chn, etc.
before I start hearing the correct patch. There has to be a better way?

An what should the setup be for GM files?

I know I'm pushing the limit here but I'd appreciate some help.

Keith



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From jondiener@earthlink.net  Fri Dec 27 20:58:08 1996
Message-ID: <32C47F45.6DDC@earthlink.net>
From: Jonathan Diener <jondiener@earthlink.net>
Organization: Video Post Productions, Inc.


To: BluesMan20@aol.com
CC: quadrasynthmailinglist <QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: QS6 with Cakewalk
References: <961227200217_1009029355@emout01.mail.aol.com>




BluesMan20@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I'm new to the QS6 and I'm looking for any advice for use with Cakewalk. I'm
> struggling to find the right setup.
> 
> What are the best settings for the QS6 (KBD MODE, PLAY MODE, etc.) and
> CAKEWALK (midi echo, etc.)
> 
> Is it necessary to create a mix and select it manually on the QS6 for each
> sound file or is there a way around this?
> 
> I've had the most success with the QS6 in Mix mode, KBD MODE: OUT 01, with
> midi echo within Cakewalk set to Auto. The problem I have is after I load a
> midi file, I have to go to each track and reset the Patch, Bank, Chn, etc.
> before I start hearing the correct patch. There has to be a better way?
> 
> An what should the setup be for GM files?
> 
> I know I'm pushing the limit here but I'd appreciate some help.
> 
> Keith

Keith,

I'm having similar setbacks with QS6/Cakewalk Pro 3.0.  I'm able to set
up the patches in Cakewalk for each channel, however, the banks don't
seem to respond at all. When I toggle through the bank setting on a
certain channel, the QS6 doesn't respond accordingly. If I set the banks
manually on the QS6, they all seem to revert to USER bank when I start
the sequence again. I've copied the QS6 instrument file to Cakewalk, and
all the patch names show up correctly in Cakewalk and QS6. Any ideas???
BTW, this mailing list is a great idea!! Thanks to all those who manage
and contribute to the Quadrasynth Page!

Jon Diener
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From clo4748@megahertz.njit.edu  Fri Dec 27 21:20:41 1996
Message-Id: <199612280220.VAA22536@megahertz.njit.edu>
From: "Christopher Onjian" <clo4748@megahertz.njit.edu>
To: <quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com>
Subject: Re: QS6 with Cakewalk








> I'm having similar setbacks with QS6/Cakewalk Pro 3.0.  I'm able to set
> up the patches in Cakewalk for each channel, however, the banks don't
> seem to respond at all. When I toggle through the bank setting on a
> certain channel, the QS6 doesn't respond accordingly. If I set the banks
> manually on the QS6, they all seem to revert to USER bank when I start
> the sequence again. I've copied the QS6 instrument file to Cakewalk, and
> all the patch names show up correctly in Cakewalk and QS6. Any ideas???
> BTW, this mailing list is a great idea!! Thanks to all those who manage
> and contribute to the Quadrasynth Page!
> 

Hi there...

I use Cakewalk pro 3.0 with a Quadrasynth plus (among other things)..I had
a similar problem at one time. I don't know how it is set up on a QS6, but
the way it works on a QS+ is if you have the General Midi feature on (I
don't know if the QS6 has this or not) it will not respond to bank change
commands. 

hope that helps..

-=Chris=-
clo4748@megahertz.njit.edu
http://megahertz.njit.edu/~clo4748

"Net Boy, net girl                                "Half the world hates
   Send your signal 'round the world      What half the world does
   Let your fingers walk and talk               every day
   And set you free                                Half the world waits
 Net Boy, net girl                                   While half the world
gets
  Send your impulse 'round the world        on with it anyway
  Put your message in a modem                
  And throw it in the Cyber Sea"            Half the world cries
  --Rush, "Virtuality"                              Half the world laughs
                                                             Half the world
tries
                                                             To be the
other half"
                                                               ---Rush,
"Half the World"

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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Fri Dec 27 22:59:18 1996
From: DaveBryce9@aol.com
Message-ID: <961227225847_2053604056@emout03.mail.aol.com>
To: jondiener@earthlink.net, BluesMan20@aol.com

Subject: Re: QS6 with Cakewalk





In a message dated 12/28/96 2:04:09 AM, jondiener@earthlink.net (Jonathan
Diener) wrote:

<<I'm able to set
up the patches in Cakewalk for each channel, however, the banks don't
seem to respond at all. When I toggle through the bank setting on a
certain channel, the QS6 doesn't respond accordingly. If I set the banks
manually on the QS6, they all seem to revert to USER bank when I start
the sequence again.>>

Being a Performer user and a Mac guy, I'm not really up on Cakewalk; but, I
do know this...if your QS6 is reverting to the user bank no matter what,
there's a bank change message in there somewhere...in an event edit list,
you'd be looking for something that sez CC#0 (continuous controller 0 lets
QS6 know a bank change message is coming), and if your machine keeps going
back to the user bank, the value is set to 0 (that tells the QS6 to switch to
the user bank.  This message usually precedes a program change command in an
edit list...so, you'd see a line that sez "cc#0, 0" for user "CC#0, 1" for
bank 1, "CC#0,2" for bank 2, etc.  BTW, "CC#0, 5"  will get you the card
bank.
Once again, sorry to speak so generally about this point, but my
unfamiliarity with Cakewalk prevents me from being more specific.  Hope this
helps.
dB
Alesis Keyboards
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sat Dec 28 03:06:05 1996
Message-Id: <199612280806.DAA15427@www14.clever.net>

From: "Les Winters" <lwinters@midiworld.com>
To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com



Subject: Re: QS6 with Cakewalk





On 27 Dec 96 at 20:02, BluesMan20@aol.com wrote:

> I'm new to the QS6 and I'm looking for any advice for use with Cakewalk. I'm
> struggling to find the right setup. 
> 
> What are the best settings for the QS6 (KBD MODE, PLAY MODE, etc.) and
> CAKEWALK (midi echo, etc.)

Keith,

Use OUT1 as keyboard mode (you can set it in GLOBAL Edit on the QS6)
This is the Alesis version of Local Off, and the suggested mode for sequencing.

> Is it necessary to create a mix and select it manually on the QS6 for each
> sound file or is there a way around this?

It's not necessary to create new mixes for each song. Simply use the 
Multitimbral Mix (User 00) and GM off when sequencing, or playing 
QS6 songs, and turn GM On, when playing General MIDI sequences.

The Multitimbral Mix was made for sequencing, it has all 16 channels
enabled, and it can receive the program changes on all channels. 
When you write a song, select the banks and patches for each channel 
from  Cakewalk, (in Track View), and  select User Mix 00 (Multitimbral)
on the QS6. When you play the song, the QS6 will receive the bank an
patch changes, and the Mix will be set up automatically. 

> I've had the most success with the QS6 in Mix mode, KBD MODE: OUT 01, with
> midi echo within Cakewalk set to Auto. The problem I have is after I load a
> midi file, I have to go to each track and reset the Patch, Bank, Chn, etc.
> before I start hearing the correct patch. There has to be a better way?

Do you use the QS6 Instrument Definitions with Cakewalk? You can download 
it from the QS Page, it makes life easier.

The patch and bank changes you mention are coming from the MIDI file
you're playing. Most MIDI file you download from the net are General
MIDI files, and can be played correctly in GM mode only. Better sequences
will turn GM mode on automatically for you, others simply assume that you 
use a GM synth. Have you tried MIDI files written for the QS6? There are
a few on the QS Page, download and play them. (Mix mode, User Mix 00,
GM off for these files)

> An what should the setup be for GM files?

GM mode is the way to go with GM files.

If you're still having problems, send me one of those files you have trouble
with, and I'll check it out for you.

Les
--
Les Winters
New York

http://midiworld.com/
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From elson@westworld.com  Sat Dec 28 06:32:39 1996
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961228033007.006c1ffc@mail.westworld.com>
X-Sender: elson@mail.westworld.com
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32)
To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
Subject: Re: QS6 with Cakewalk





Do you have the correct QS6 instrument definition? I use Cakewalk 5.0 (and
3.01 previously) and never had a problem.
When sequencing, I set the QS6 on one mix patch and leave it there. In
Cakewalk, I assign patches per track in each sequence and that way I don't
even have to really change anything.

Elson
                                     -30-
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Elson Trinidad
      
Los Angeles, CA, USA                                                     
elson@westworld.com * http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
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From elson@westworld.com  Sat Dec 28 06:37:52 1996
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961228033513.006c23e0@mail.westworld.com>
X-Sender: elson@mail.westworld.com
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32)
To: BluesMan20@aol.com,
        QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com (quadrasynthmailinglist)
From: Elson Trinidad <elson@westworld.com>
Subject: Re: QS6 with Cakewalk





At 08.02 PM 12/27/96 -0500, BluesMan20@aol.com wrote:
>I'm new to the QS6 and I'm looking for any advice for use with Cakewalk. I'm
>struggling to find the right setup. 
>
>What are the best settings for the QS6 (KBD MODE, PLAY MODE, etc.) and
>CAKEWALK (midi echo, etc.)

It depends, but if you use your QS6 for multitimbral play, set it on:
KBD MODE: OUT 1
MIDI PRG SEL: ON
MIDI OUT: OUT

all the other parameters are set to your taste. However...

 
>I've had the most success with the QS6 in Mix mode, KBD MODE: OUT 01, with
>midi echo within Cakewalk set to Auto. The problem I have is after I load a
>midi file, I have to go to each track and reset the Patch, Bank, Chn, etc.
>before I start hearing the correct patch. There has to be a better way?

is your General MIDI: ON ?

I have mine set "off" (I'm not big on GM files, and when I do use them, I
simply use my AWE32), but
if you use your QS6 for MIDI files, definitely have it set "on" and choose
MIX General MIDI 00

Elson

 
                                     -30-
========================================== 
Elson Trinidad
      
Los Angeles, CA, USA                                                     
elson@westworld.com * http://www.westworld.com/~elson 
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From 70413.3531@compuserve.com  Sat Dec 28 08:33:00 1996
From: Allan Metts <70413.3531@compuserve.com>
Subject: New Orchestral Quadracard
To: QuadraSynth List <QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com>
Message-ID: <199612280832_MC2-E00-38D@compuserve.com>





I read on the QuadraSynth web page that a new Orchestral Quadracard was due
out before the end of the year.

Does anyone know if this card is shipping?  If I see one on a store shelf,
how can I tell if its the new version?  I don't want to buy the old one if
there's something better out there...

Allan -- Atlanta
ametts@compuserve.com

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From blakeq@clark.edu  Sat Dec 28 16:05:36 1996
From: Blake Quorn <blakeq@clark.edu>
To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: Piano Quadra card for sale
In-Reply-To: <199612171019.FAA01265@www14.clever.net>
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.91.961228130140.8120A-100000@clark.edu>





8 meg Alesis Piano Quadra card for sale, perfect condition, in box, 
barely used because I upgraded to a Plus Piano.  $120 or best offer

Thanks
Blake
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From mitchb2@ix.netcom.com  Sat Dec 28 18:34:41 1996
Message-ID: <32C5D826.28B8@ix.netcom.com>
From: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Sysex and Flashcard:  QS+




Well, I still can't get SoundBridge to write a sysex bank to my QS+
Flash RAM card.
So far, I've used the suggestions such as using Freeloader, making sure
the sysex file resides in the SoundBridge directory.  I'm using SB 1.2.

I still get a bank full of trash.  Anyone get this to work???


-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Mitch Brink, Keyboardist/ Composer 
E-mail:	  mitchb2@ix.netcom.com
WWW:      http://www.geocities.com/~mitchb2/
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sat Dec 28 18:39:58 1996
From: DaveBryce9@aol.com
Message-ID: <961228183928_2087246265@emout08.mail.aol.com>
To: 70413.3531@compuserve.com, QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: Re: New Orchestral Quadracard





In a message dated 12/28/96 10:46:01 PM, 70413.3531@compuserve.com (Allan
Metts) wrote:

<<Does anyone know if this card is shipping?  If I see one on a store shelf,
how can I tell if its the new version?  I don't want to buy the old one if
there's something better out there...
>>

We're supposed to receive the finished card January the 3rd...we already have
the packaging, so they should ship within a week of that.
You can tell a new card from an older one easily.  The older ones are called
QuadraCards, the newer ones are called QCards.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the main difference between the
two,the older cards occaisionally wanna see a sample from the
Quadrasynth...so, if you use them with the QS stuff, once in a while, the
wrong sample plays.  The newer cards are entirely self-reliant, and will work
on *any* of our synths. 
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From DaveBryce9@aol.com  Sat Dec 28 18:48:09 1996
From: DaveBryce9@aol.com
Message-ID: <961228184740_1409676788@emout16.mail.aol.com>
To: QuadraSynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: E-mail





Hey there...

As some of you may have noticed, we've been experiencing some weirdness with
our server that returns (undelivered) some of the email sent to me.  I had
not been receiving the list for a while, so I had Les switch it over to my
AOL account.
To any of you who sent me mail that you didn't receive replies,  I apologize
for the inconvenience.  Since AOL has cut to unlimited use this month, I have
no problem having mail sent to this address if you're having trouble getting
through to Alesis email.

Hope everyone's having a pleasant holiday.

dB
Alesis Keyboards
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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Dec 28 19:50:39 1996
Message-ID: <32C5BFBC.1CB1@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
Reply-To: progmon@eden.com
Organization: Rich's MIDI and Audio Lab
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To: Mitch <mitchb2@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: Sysex and Flashcard:  QS+
References: <32C5D826.28B8@ix.netcom.com>




Mitch wrote:
> 
> Well, I still can't get SoundBridge to write a sysex bank to my QS+
> Flash RAM card.
> So far, I've used the suggestions such as using Freeloader, making sure
> the sysex file resides in the SoundBridge directory.  I'm using SB 1.2.
> 
> I still get a bank full of trash.  Anyone get this to work???
> 
Hi Mitch,
What error message is Soundbridge giving you?  last time i tried i got a
"Can't lock memory" error--which i think has its source in the Midiquest
8 port se driver.  i just got a new driver from Opcode's page and I'll
keep the group posted. Are you running win95?  I'd also be interested in
hearing others experiences. 
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
_________________________visit my page_______________________________
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From Jean.Ibell.2@uni.massey.ac.nz  Sat Dec 28 20:44:13 1996
Message-ID: <32C5DA08.69C7@uni.massey.ac.nz>
From: Jonathan Ibell <Jean.Ibell.2@uni.massey.ac.nz>
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To: quadrasynth-list@midiworld.com
Subject: QS6 Upgrade




Hi,

I have just purchased a QS6 and 4MB Flash RAM card (though they are yet to arrive 
in NZ) and I am after some advise regarding the upgrade for QS6's mentioned in the 
Quadrasynth home page. I have contacted Alesis twice by email but have not 
received a reply so I thought this avenue is worth a try. Below is a copy from the 
QS6 page - 

Alesis Releases QS6 2.00 and Soundbridge Upgrade.

Alesis is happy to announce the release of QS6 software version 2.00. Version 2.00 
adds the ability for QS6 users to utilize new features included in the updated 
version of Sound Bridge software (Version 2.00 for MAC and Version 1.2 for IBM). 
These features include the partitioning of cards in order to store samples, sysex, 
and standard midi files on the same card. Sound Bridge also allows the ability to 
playback standard midi files which have been transferred to RAM cards. For the 
QS6, Version 2.00 software is available as an EPROM upgrade kit. This kit 
is user-installable and comes with all the necessary instructions and tools. The 
only other tool you will need is a Phillips type screwdriver. The upgrade is 
available free of charge to registered users who have purchased their units after 
July 1, 1996. A proof of sale is required to receive this upgrade free of charge. 
Otherwise, this EPROM upgrade is an enhancement to the original QS6 operating 
system. All previous QS6 owners must purchase the upgrade through our Parts 
department at the cost of $39.99 (Plus any applicable sales tax and shipping 
charges).

The questions I have are - 
	is this both a hardware and software upgrade? 
	do recently purchased keyboards come with the upgrade allready? 
	how do I get an answer from Alesis? - is it usual not to get replys or 	
		does that prob with a server have something to do with it?

Any other comments on the above quote from the QS page would be greatly received 
as I am rather confused!

thanks

Jonathan Ibell
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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Dec 28 21:12:20 1996
Message-ID: <32C5D2E3.64DE@eden.com>
From: Rich <progmon@eden.com>
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Organization: Rich's MIDI and Audio Lab
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To: Jonathan Ibell <Jean.Ibell.2@uni.massey.ac.nz>

Subject: Re: QS6 Upgrade
References: <32C5DA08.69C7@uni.massey.ac.nz>




> The questions I have are - 
>         is this both a hardware and software upgrade? 
>         do recently purchased keyboards come with the upgrade allready? 
>         how do I get an answer from Alesis? - is it usual not to get replys or  
>                 does that prob with a server have something to do with it?
> 
  press the program button and the 00 button simulataneously to see if
you have the new eprom (a chip with the operating system in it).  if it
says 2.xx you have it, if not, you will need it if you want to use
soundbridge.
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
_________________________visit my page_______________________________
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Dec 28 22:15:46 1996
Message-ID: <32C5E25F.3757@mail.magg.net>
From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
Organization: "http://www.landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: TO ALL QS+ USERS
References: <32C5D826.28B8@ix.netcom.com> <32C5BFBC.1CB1@eden.com>




Rich wrote:
> 
> Mitch wrote:
> >
> > Well, I still can't get SoundBridge to write a sysex bank to my QS+
> > Flash RAM card.

... there is no error message that soundbridge gives me... just a bank
full of grabage too.
I too have tried all the suggestions, and just dowloaded the new release
of soundbridge, hoping that it mitght change something with the jumbled
results ive come to expect...
when i run through this bank, which give no sound, I almost always get
an adress error ( one the keyboard ), after clicking through about 20
patches from the card's bank.

As far as I know, no one has been able to store a bank on their card
using the QS+.
Alesis?

well, it is the only problem i have EVER had with the keyboard, so I can
endure.   

Take care everone...
Adrian Wagner
"http://www.landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
or
"http://www.landfall-group.com/Syzygy/index.html"
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Dec 28 22:22:22 1996
Message-ID: <32C5E3EB.25@mail.magg.net>
From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
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To: QuadraSynth-List@midiworld.com
Subject: NEW QS+ Bank




I would like to announce a brand new bank for the QuadraSynth Plus
Piano has been just written, and that it availible at Les Winter's site.
But, it is simply not true. Can it truely be possible that out of all of
the QS+ owner on this list, no others write their own patches?
---
PLEASE, if you do, please share them.
---
I would really really really love to try them out, as I am sure quite a
few people on this list would.

regardless, happy playing.

Adrian. 
"http://landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
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From progmon@eden.com  Sat Dec 28 21:12:20 1996
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> The questions I have are - 
>         is this both a hardware and software upgrade? 
>         do recently purchased keyboards come with the upgrade allready? 
>         how do I get an answer from Alesis? - is it usual not to get replys or  
>                 does that prob with a server have something to do with it?
> 
  press the program button and the 00 button simulataneously to see if
you have the new eprom (a chip with the operating system in it).  if it
says 2.xx you have it, if not, you will need it if you want to use
soundbridge.
-- 
  ~~~RICH~~~~    _____________ooOOoo__________              
		      Karmic Kicks Come Here
		 http://www.eden.com/~progmon
_________________________visit my page_______________________________
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Dec 28 22:15:46 1996
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Rich wrote:
> 
> Mitch wrote:
> >
> > Well, I still can't get SoundBridge to write a sysex bank to my QS+
> > Flash RAM card.

... there is no error message that soundbridge gives me... just a bank
full of grabage too.
I too have tried all the suggestions, and just dowloaded the new release
of soundbridge, hoping that it mitght change something with the jumbled
results ive come to expect...
when i run through this bank, which give no sound, I almost always get
an adress error ( one the keyboard ), after clicking through about 20
patches from the card's bank.

As far as I know, no one has been able to store a bank on their card
using the QS+.
Alesis?

well, it is the only problem i have EVER had with the keyboard, so I can
endure.   

Take care everone...
Adrian Wagner
"http://www.landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
or
"http://www.landfall-group.com/Syzygy/index.html"
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From pulp19@grumpy.magg.net  Sat Dec 28 22:22:22 1996
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From: Adrian Wagner <pulp19@magg.net>
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Subject: NEW QS+ Bank
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I would like to announce a brand new bank for the QuadraSynth Plus
Piano has been just written, and that it availible at Les Winter's site.
But, it is simply not true. Can it truely be possible that out of all of
the QS+ owner on this list, no others write their own patches?
---
PLEASE, if you do, please share them.
---
I would really really really love to try them out, as I am sure quite a
few people on this list would.

regardless, happy playing.

Adrian. 
"http://landfall-group.com/Adrian/index.htm"
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From cheezie@pacific.net.sg  Sun Dec 29 08:47:08 1996
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Problem 1:
I'm trying to save the banks and patches on my QS6 using Unisyn (that
came on the QS6 CD-ROM).
But I can only save the Mix-User bank.
Is there a way to save all the other banks (and their respective
patches?
I've read the Help files within the Unisyn program but it doesn't help.
Can anyone out there help me?

Problem 2:
This is not so much a problem but a discovery.
I've gone to the local dealer and realised that the pacthes in my QS6's
Program-User and Mix-User banks are different from those stated in the
manual.
For example, I have [Note: The names of the patches as stated in the QS6
manual are in brackets], in my Program-User bank, 00:QuadraTime
(00:ClasclGrand); 01:ArenaPiano (01:Pianooohs); 02:LiveBrass
(02:HousePiano) and so on.
In my Mix-User bank, I have 00:Quadra-Hit (01:Multitmbrl); 01:Grand&Strg
(01:Pno&Strgs); 02:Catalyst (02:BriePiano) and so on.
If I could save the Program-User bank using Unisyn, I could perhaps
attach the *.ubk (Unisyn) file to this group. But I can't (See Problem
No.1 above).
Does anyone else has the same patches as my QS6?
I wouldn't want to edit any of the sounds yet until I am sure I can save
these banks and their respective patches first.

Thanks in advance for helping.
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From Prozaxs@aol.com  Sun Dec 29 08:46:26 1996
From: Prozaxs@aol.com
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this was accidently sent to, instead of the group.

Ken
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    TO ALL QS+ USERS
Date:    96-12-29 00:59:43 EST
From:    Paul Khor
To:      Prozaxs

Hi there,

I just bought a QS+ Piano from Manny's Mailbox Music, so I am really new to
the QS group.  They did not send me a manual, but one will be coming soon
(one week or one month????)

I just have the following questions:


a.  How do you do a system reset?

b.  Using Cakewalk with the QS+Piano patch, I can't get the anything to play
out of the QS+.

c.   I messed up the first patch on the user bank, how do I get it back?

d.   Finally, is there a built in demo file on the QS+, if so what do I do to
activate it?

Thanks and a Happy New Year to all
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sun Dec 29 09:59:34 1996
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> From:    Paul Khor

 > Hi there,
 > 
 > I just bought a QS+ Piano from Manny's Mailbox Music, so I am really new to
 > the QS group.  They did not send me a manual, but one will be coming soon (one
 > week or one month????)
 > 
 > I just have the following questions:
 > 
 > a.  How do you do a system reset?

Turn the power off, and hold down Quad-buttons 1 and 4 while powering up.
(The quad Buttons are on the right side of the keyboard)

 > b.  Using Cakewalk with the QS+Piano patch, I can't get the anything to play
 > out of the QS+.

Check your cables, and MIDI drivers, don't forget to set up Cakewalk
(Settings menu, MIDI Devices) with the MIDI In and Out driver you
use. 
Select MIX mode and a multitimbral mix for playback (MIX Preset 99
I think) and tirn GM mode on, when playing General MIDI files.
(Press Global, and use Quad-knob 2)

 > c.   I messed up the first patch on the user bank, how do I get it back?

 You can download the bank from the QuadraSynth Page, Sound Library :
                           http://midiworld.com/quadrasynth
 
 > d.   Finally, is there a built in demo file on the QS+, if so what do I do to
 > activate it?

Hold down the GLOBAL button, and press MIX to start the demo.

Les
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Sun Dec 29 09:59:32 1996
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On 29 Dec 96 at 8:47, Cheez wrote:

 > Problem 1:
 > I'm trying to save the banks and patches on my QS6 using Unisyn (that
 > came on the QS6 CD-ROM). But I can only save the Mix-User bank.
 > Is there a way to save all the other banks (and their respective patches?

Try this : 

Open the Mix bank Window, then click on the Module menu, and select 
Alesis QS6 Program 1, ( instead of Mix.) 
The Mix bank window will turn into a Patch Bank Window. It's all there,
but you can see only either the Mix Bank or the Patch Bank Window.
The Module Menu is there to switch between the two types of banks.

 > Problem 2:
 > This is not so much a problem but a discovery.
 > I've gone to the local dealer and realised that the pacthes in my QS6's
 > Program-User and Mix-User banks are different from those stated in the
 > manual.
 > For example, I have [Note: The names of the patches as stated in the QS6
 > manual are in brackets], in my Program-User bank, 00:QuadraTime
 > (00:ClasclGrand); 01:ArenaPiano (01:Pianooohs); 02:LiveBrass
 > (02:HousePiano) and so on.

Someone must have played with your QS6, and replaced the original User Bank 
with the Virtual Composer 2 Bank (from the Alesis QuadraCard)

 > I wouldn't want to edit any of the sounds yet until I am sure I can save
 > these banks and their respective patches first.

You can erase the current user bank, and restore the original, since both banks are
available for downloads at the QuadraSynth Page (Sound Library) so you
will not lose them.

Les
PS. For quick and easy sysex bank dumps, try  Freeloader (it's also included on 
the CD ROM), and for a more user-friendly Editor, you may want to check
out the QE2.0 demo. (QuadraSynth Page)
--
Les Winters
New York

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From 75024.2471@compuserve.com  Sun Dec 29 23:25:24 1996
From: Mark & Renee <75024.2471@compuserve.com>
Subject: QS 7 PROBLEMS
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I HAVE A NUMBER OF seemingly easy problems to solve and would appreciate
help.
I own a QS 7 and am having trouble finding my way around the synth and the
manual.

        1) Splitting the keyboard - I can assign a program to only one
channel and can't access any different programs to assign to other
channels.
        2) All of the banks are filled with factory presets. This makes the
synth user un-friendly for live performance since I can't switch sounds
around to the user bank without losing them. Any ideas?
        3) How to store an edited mix. Is there a "yes" and "no" button
somewhere???
        4) Is there a different manual out there somewhere that puts you
through examples of different editing chores?
        5) If I want to eventually store some sequences onto a card, how
much memory will I need? (ie - several songs stored to perform live)

        That's all folks. Thanks for your help!

        Mark Novak

        PS If anyone has a Mac and could help me with getting my sequencing
program back working after a disastrous attempt to install a new operating
system, please let me know.
        
        
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From cheezie@pacific.net.sg  Mon Dec 30 03:51:46 1996
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Thank you Les for the great help. 
 
> On 29 Dec 96 at 8:47, Cheez wrote:

>  > Problem 2:
>  > This is not so much a problem but a discovery.
>  > I've gone to the local dealer and realised that the pacthes in my QS6's
>  > Program-User and Mix-User banks are different from those stated in the
>  > manual.
>  > For example, I have [Note: The names of the patches as stated in the QS6
>  > manual are in brackets], in my Program-User bank, 00:QuadraTime
>  > (00:ClasclGrand); 01:ArenaPiano (01:Pianooohs); 02:LiveBrass
>  > (02:HousePiano) and so on.
> 
> Les Wrote: Someone must have played with your QS6, and replaced the original User Bank
> with the Virtual Composer 2 Bank (from the Alesis QuadraCard)

One more nagging question. What is this 'Virtual Composer 2 Bank' and
from which Alesis QuadraCard? Did I get a 'bargain' in the form of
pre-loaded 'extra' banks and patches? Hmm ...
> 
>  > I wouldn't want to edit any of the sounds yet until I am sure I can save
>  > these banks and their respective patches first.
> 
> You can erase the current user bank, and restore the original, since both banks are
> available for downloads at the QuadraSynth Page (Sound Library) so you
> will not lose them.

Thanks all once again.

Problem 3:

Also, can anyone offer any help -- using my sustain pedal, there seems
to be little or no sustain effects.
Maybe I messed up some configuration on my QS6. Any suggestions?

Thanks all again.
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Mon Dec 30 08:01:15 1996
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On 30 Dec 96 at 16:49, Cheez wrote:

> Thank you Les for the great help. 

> > Les Wrote: Someone must have played with your QS6, and replaced the original
> > User Bank with the Virtual Composer 2 Bank (from the Alesis QuadraCard)
> 
> One more nagging question. What is this 'Virtual Composer 2 Bank' and
> from which Alesis QuadraCard? Did I get a 'bargain' in the form of
> pre-loaded 'extra' banks and patches? Hmm ...

I wouldn't call it a bargain, I'd call it a used QS6. Someone played with it
long enough, to get bored with the original sounds, and load new banks.

The card is actually called "Alesis RAM card", it's a 256kb SRAM card,
capable of storing 4 full banks of programs and mixes. It comes with 3
preloaded banks, Virtual Composer 1,2 and 3.  This card was released in
the early days, when the original QuadraSynth was the coolest thing on the
planet. You can still buy them for around $100, I use one to store my extra
patches.

Les
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From ABlanchard@swri.edu  Mon Dec 30 09:28:24 1996
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Hello everyone,

I own a QS6 and recently bought the 8 meg flash card. Also, I am still waiting 
for my 2.00 upgrade to shipped to me, urrh!  I ordered it 3 weeks ago.  
Anyway,  I have no problem getting new samples onto my card (just can't 
partition or save sequenses yet until upgraded)  I've tried many of the 
samples off the QS site but they sound TERRIBLE!  I tried even tried 
brightening them up in a sound editor, EQ'ing, etc. Still no luck! These 
samples on the site are not large enough files to sound great. Has anyone 
TRUELY had success where the end result sounded GREAT? It does'nt seem like 
anyone wants to share their success stories. I've been on this list for a few 
months now and NO one has actually said they have accomplished anything that 
there proud of.  I'm talking about loading NEW SAMPLES on the card not 
sequences or patches.  I don't own a sampler and don't intend to.  I found out 
you can now buy individual samples from Sweetwater on floppies without 
spending fortune ($24-$30).  I am considering ordering some of the K-2000 
samples (.krz) from Sweetwater and converting them to .WAV or SampleCell 
formats. Has anyone tried this conversion yet???  If so, what format works 
best? How about Sound Designer format?  Is A-Wave the only shareware that will 
let you convert or are there others? Bottom line: Lets hear from someone who 
has been down this road and can share it with everone else.

I realize this is alot for one e-mail . . . but thanks in advance,    
ABlanchard
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From lwinters@midiworld.com  Mon Dec 30 10:54:41 1996
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On 30 Dec 96 at 9:28, ABlanchard@swri.edu wrote:

 >  I've tried many of the samples off the QS site but they sound TERRIBLE!  
 > I tried even tried brightening them up in a sound
 > editor, EQ'ing, etc. Still no luck! These samples on the site are not large
 > enough files to sound great. Has anyone TRUELY had success where the end 
 > result sounded GREAT?

Where is this QS site with the samples on it ? 

Samples usually don't sound great. The patches, programmers write using
the samples sound great. If you listen to the raw samples on the QS, and
then check out the programs and mixes, you will see (hear) a big difference.
If a sample sound too good, it's probably too large, and maybe not the best
material for programming. 

Finding good samples is just the first step. The hard part is looping the
sounds, and then writing patches on the QS.  It takes time to learn the tricks,
and get acceptable results. So don't expect too many "success stories " just 
yet.

Les
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From progmon@eden.com  Mon Dec 30 19:05:07 1996
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ABlanchard@swri.edu wrote:
>  Has anyone
> TRUELY had success where the end result sounded GREAT? It does'nt seem like
> anyone wants to share their success stories. I've been on this list for a few
> months now and NO one has actually said they have accomplished anything that
> there proud of.  

For me the card has met my expectations and I am pleased with the sonic
results and possibilities. 

You arent going to be able to do killer multi samples with sound bridge
easily. There's no way to audition what you are doing and once they are
in there's no way to edit the sample itself. If you had a sampler you
could tweak and match the samples there, but then why bother with
sending them to the card?   Spot effects sounds tho, work great!  Its
amazing what you can do with those q2 FX.  Drums also do well and are
easy since they are not looped. Analog waveforms and resonant waveforms
also work well, given they are looped well. I also find that its useful
to put things that are normally heavy with FX on the card as when
sequencing it makes it easier (don't have to edit the mix). Dry sounds
suffer because thye often sound different than one intends in a
multitimbral mix becuase its running through the FX.  If you dry it out
in the mix settings, I often find its not loud enough to cut the mix. 
Thats why my rule #1 is, and I've said it before, make it as loud as you
can and as hot as you can so it can stand its own ground in the mix.   

But i have a sampler and lots of modules.  I would not expect it to
measure up to the results a real sampler could give.  Sampling is a
difficult and tricky art even given the best tools. Complex sounds like
pianos and guitars, choirs, strings require lots of tools and
persistence to get right.
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Mark & Renee wrote:
> 
> I HAVE A NUMBER OF seemingly easy problems to solve and would appreciate
> help.
> I own a QS 7 and am having trouble finding my way around the synth and the
> manual.
> 
>         1) Splitting the keyboard - I can assign a program to only one
> channel and can't access any different programs to assign to other
> channels.

You can do splits in either program or mix mode.  You can do 4 zones in
a program and up to 16 in a mix.  (Guess that makes a theortical limit
of 64!)  In a mix, set the range after pressing 110, then press button
90 to turn keybpoard ON for each channel you want in the mix.  Make sure
your keyboard mode is set to NORMAL in globals--thats probably where you
want it foe live performance.  You should continue to read the manual.

>         2) All of the banks are filled with factory presets. This makes the
> synth user un-friendly for live performance since I can't switch sounds
> around to the user bank without losing them. Any ideas?

Thats the hard one.  You have to sacrifice sounds to make sounds, and
there is the added  problem that most programs are used in mixes, so if
you delete a program you may also be messing with a mix.  I bought a Ram
card to put the factory Ram sounds on to free up the whole user bank for
my creations.  You can always just store the factory sounds on a
computer and free up a bank that way too.

>         3) How to store an edited mix. Is there a "yes" and "no" button
> somewhere???

press store twice

>         4) Is there a different manual out there somewhere that puts you
> through examples of different editing chores?

dont know
>         5) If I want to eventually store some sequences onto a card, how
> much memory will I need? (ie - several songs stored to perform live)

Get the 8 meg if you can.  Make sure you read up on cards on Les's
homepage before you buy.  In fact as a new user you should definitely
check that page out!
> 
>         That's all folks. Thanks for your help!
> 
>         Mark Novak
> 
>         PS If anyone has a Mac and could help me with getting my sequencing
> program back working after a disastrous attempt to install a new operating
> system, please let me know.
> 
> 
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From martdawg@juno.com  Tue Dec 31 02:54:27 1996
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Hello all, this is my first post. And the QS6 is my first synth... I have
been saving for one what seems like for ever. I must say that for the
price it kicks booty :)

I am curious, is it possible to play a program (patch) backwards? I want
to play an 808 kick drum backwards. I know there is an effect for some
type of reverse reverb but I am not sure. I use the synth in mix mode
(1-16) and I dont want to sacrafice effects in my mix just to get the 808
kick to reverse. I am just starting to learn to program effects, its hard
to find the time ( I am 18 .. just started college).

sysx junkies: I need the code to 
1) turn the out mode from 'normal' to 'ch solo' (channel solo)
2) enable mix mode
3) switch to mix 00 (1-16)

Thanks.. check for a few of my mids on midiworld soon.. tell me what you
think!

-Marty


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From bruce@protel.com  Tue Dec 31 12:39:02 1996
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A very basic question:

I'm looking for a Mac-based (pref native PowerMac) sequencer that is
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